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Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 09-06-06

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From: The Athens News Agency at <http://www.ana.gr/>

PERIEXOMENA
  • [01] "Mazi phgainoyme thn Ellada mprosta"
  • [02] "Na allajoyme thn poreia ths xwras"
  • [03] "Sthn Eyrwph h eyqynh twn synorwn"

    [01] "Mazi phgainoyme thn Ellada mprosta"

    ``H oikonomia einai shmera h pio epeigoysa eqnikh ypoqesh'' tonise o prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs apo to Pedio toy Arews, stelnontas taytoxrona pros toys polites to mhnyma ``mazi phgainoyme thn Ellada mprosta''. O prwqypoyrgos, eqese epishs to dilhmma twn eklogwn ``ypeyqynothta h aneyqynothta'' kai ejapelyse epiqesh sto PASOK katalogizontas toy ``aneyqynothta, laikismo, alazoneia, isopedwsh, atolmia apoysia sxedioy gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs'' se mia megalh, opws xarakthristhke, proeklogikh sygkentrwsh.

    Milwntas gia to diakybeyma twn eklogwn o k. Karamanlhs eipe: ``sto diasthma poy akoloyqei krinetai h poreia ths xwras mas, kapoioi paizoyn me toys qesmoys, paizoyn me thn oikonomia, paizoyn me thn poreia toy topoy. H politikh eixe kai exei dyo dromoys mprosta ths o prwtos, o dromos ths ypeyqynothtas, odhgei sto syllogiko, to koinwniko, to eqniko symferon. Shmainei dyskoles apofaseis, poy dinoyn pragmatikes lyseis. Shmainei sobarothta, apofasistikothta, ypeyqynothta. O deyteros, o dromos ths aneyqynothtas, katalhgei stis mikrokommatikes idioteleies. Bazei to komma panw apo ola. Prosferei eyxaristes, alla apragmatopoihtes yposxeseis. Gib ayto den odhgei poyqena. Katalhgei se adiejodo. Taytizetai me to laikismo, thn atolmia, thn apoysia sxedioy diaxeirishs ths krishs''.

    O k. Karamanlhs ekane eidikh kai ektetamenh anafora sthn ypoqesh ths Siemens, katalogise thn apokleistikh eyqynh sto PASOK kai dhlwse thn empistosynh toy sthn Dikaiosynh. H alhqeia einai mia kai monh, anefere o k. Karamanlhs: ``H prwtofanhs ypoqesh ``Siemens'' einai skandalo PASOK. Kai mono toy PASOK. Emeis den protrexoyme. Perimenoyme thn ereyna ths Dikaiosynhs. Einai, omws, adianohto na emfanizetai to PASOK san timhths sb ena skandalo poy egine sth diarkeia twn kybernhsewn toy. Oi krayges toy den qa tromajoyn kanenan. Kai, bebaia, den qa tromajoyn to ``noikokyrh'': Poy einai h Dikaiosynh. Den mporei na paristanoyn toys kataggellontes ekeinoi poy ypegracan tis programmatikes symfwnies. Ekeinoi dhladh poy ypegracan apeyqeias anaqeseis disekatommyriwn. Kanenas den jexna tis praktikes toys. Den ereynhsan pote kanena skandalo. Den dexthkan th systash kamias Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Chfizan nomoys epispeyshs ths paragrafhs. Den mporoyn na dinoyn maqhmata diafaneias. Den mporoyn na paraplhroforoyn! Propantwn, den mporoyn na paraplhroforoyn se qemata poy, opws leei o laos, ``exoyn lerwmenh th fwlia toys''.

    O k. Karamanlhs anaferqhke sthn proeklogikh ekstrateia toy kommatos toy legontas oti ``o stoxos mas yphrje enas kai monadikos: Na paroysiasoyme ypeyqyna to ergo kai tis qeseis mas. Na paroysiasoyme, panw apo ola, to sxedio mas gia thn antimetwpish ths oikonomikhs krishs. Dystyxws, omws. H Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh katefyge se mia apo tis pio mayres propagandistikes ekstrateies sthn istoria ths: Me apajiwtikoys oroys, xarakthrizontas toys antipaloys ths ``barbaroys''. Me akraia kindynologia, legontas oti ws xwra, boyliazoyme. Me ceydh, sthn arnhtikh diafhmish ths. Me proklhtikh paraplhroforhsh''.

    O k. Karamanlhs ekane apologismo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy thn pentaetia poy perase ypogrammizontas: ``Sta pente xronia poy perasan, dwsame lyseis se xronizonta problhmata. Tolmhsame dyskoles apofaseis. Petyxame shmantika apotelesmata:

    Enisxysame to Koinwniko Kratos: Panwtokia - LAFKA - EKAS - agrotikes syntajeis - epidoma anergias. O,ti eipame, to kaname.

    Meiwsame shmantika ta dhmosia elleimmata.

    Periorisame drastika thn anergia.

    Enisxysame thn asfaleia stis nees genies, metarryqmizontas to Asfalistiko Systhma.

    Oloklhrwsame thn Egnatia Odo, dinontas nea strathgikh spoydaiothta sth B. Ellada.

    Jekinhsame thn kataskeyh twn megalwn aytokinhtodromwn, allazontas ton odiko xarth ths xwras.

    Tolmhsame dieqneis symfwnies -gia toys agwgoys petrelaioy kai fysikoy aerioy-poy entassoyn th xwra mas ston pagkosmio energeiako xarth.

    Efarmosame nea energeiakh politikh, poy anoije emprakta to dromo gia thn ``prasinh anaptyjh''.

    Dwsame oristikh lysh sto qema ths Olympiakhs, petyxainontas ofelos enos ek. eyrw thn hmera. Dromologhsame lysh sto problhma toy OSE, poy afhnei hmerhsia zhmia 2 ek. eyrw.

    O prwqypoyrgos milhse gia thn ejarsh ths egklhmatikothtas kai ekane eidikh timhtikh anafora ston astynomiko Spyro Qeodwroy poy to meshmeri ths Paraskeyhs exase th maxh gia th zwh. ``Toy eimaste eygnwmones gia th qysia toy kai thn prosfora toy. Ekeinoi poy kanoyn eykolh kritikh sthn Astynomia, ekeinoi poy laikizoyn aprokalypta, ofeiloyn na syneidhtopoihsoyn oti ayth einai h Astynomia poy kanei me aytoqysia to kaqhkon ths. Yphretei to koinwniko synolo kai einai dipla ston polith'' eipe o prwqypoyrgos. Sto idio qema o k. Karamanlhs prosqese oti ``H sygkroysh mas me th bia einai enteinomenh. Phrame kai qa paroyme kaqe anagkaio metro. Oi Arxes enteinoyn ton agwna toys. Oi nomoi apenanti stoys ``koykoyloforoys'' qa ginoyn pio aysthroi. Eimaste apofasismenoi na diasfalisoyme to dikaiwma toy polith gia prostasia ths zwhs kai ths perioysias toy. To dikaiwma na phgainei sth doyleia toy me anoixtoys dromoys. To dikaiwma na briskei anoixto to sxoleio, anoixto to Panepisthmio toy. H qesh mas einai jekaqarh: Kamia anoxh sta opoia kinhtra ths bias. Kamia anoxh stis prajeis bias''.

    Kleinontas thn omilia toy o prwqypoyrgos apeyqynqhke se proswpiko tono stoys opadoys toy legontas ``Pisteca kai pisteyw, se mia Ellada symmaxo me oloys toys polites ths. Gib aythn thn Ellada eimaste mazi. Eimaste ena. Sthrijte th me thn chfo sas. Dynamh moy eiste eseis. Jerw tis dyskolies. Mazi qa tis antimetwpisoyme. Jerw ta problhmata sto dromo gia to mellon. Mazi qa ton kerdisoyme. Mazi phgainoyme thn Ellada mprosta. Me empistosynh stis dynameis mas. Me aisiodojia gia to apotelesma. Oloi kai oles mazi. Gia thn Ellada. Gia oloys toys Ellhnes''.

    Episkech sthn Cyttaleia

    O k.Karamanlhs episkefqhke th monada monada biologikoy kaqarismoy lymatwn sthn Cyttaleia, synodeyomenos apo ton ypoyrgo kai ton yfypoyrgo PEXWDE k. G. Soyflia kai Q. Janqopoylo.

    O k. Karamanlhs me aformh thn Pagkosmia Hmera Periballontos, poy einai shmera, tonise oti h politikh gia to periballon den ginetai me koyfia kai megala logia alla xreiazetai erga, epimonh, apotelesma, politikh boylhsh kai strathgikh.

    "Xreiazetai politikes dynameis poy blepoyn kai anagnwrizoyn ta problhmata ekei opoy yparxoyn, miloyn th glwssa ths alhqeias stoys polites, tolmoyn na efarmosoyn tis politikes poy exei anagkh o topos kai sto periballon h epilogh einai mia, anamesa sta logia kai sta erga, anamesa sto steiro mhdenismo kai sth drash kai se telikh analysh anamesa sthn ypeyqynothta kai thn aneyqynothta".

    O prwqypoyrgos shmeiwse oti h prostasia toy periballontos einai mia diarkhs kai kaqhmerinh maxh kai apomenoyn akomh polla na ginoyn. O k. Karamanlhs eipe oti h Pagkosmia Hmera Periballontos ypogrammizei thn piestikh anagkh na antapokriqoyme sthn prajh me apofasistikothta kai apotelesmatikothta, sth megalyterh proklhsh poy antimetwpizei shmera h anqrwpothta, poy einai h diathrhsh ths biwsimothtas toy planhth.

    Prosqese pws h prostasia toy periballontos, h diafylajh ths biopoikilothtas, h strofh sthn prasinh anaptyjh kai thn ananewsimh energeia, h antimetwpish ths klimatikhs allaghs, einai zhthmata poy mas aforoyn oloys alla kai ton kaqena jexwrista.

    Oloi ofeiloyme na symbaloyn enwnontas tis dynameis mas se mia koina syntonismenh prospaqeia, eipe o k. Karamanlhs kai prosqese "h Ellada me plhrh epignwsh ths krisimothtas ths katastashs efarmozei ta teleytaia xronia mia ypeyqynh sygkrothmenh strathgikh gia to periballon".

    H egnoia mas gia to periballon, eipe, metrietai me erga kai metrhsima apotelesmata. H Ellada symmetexontas kata 2 tois xiliois sto fainomeno toy qermokhpioy einai shmera anamesa stis 4 molis xwres ths EE poy briskontai entos twn stoxwn toy Kioto. Oi qesmikes prwtoboylies poy dhmioyrgoyn ena nea plaisio gia thn prostasia toy periballontos me to eqniko xwrotajiko plaisio kai ta eidika xwrotajika, triplasiasmos mesa se pente xronia ths egkatesthmenhs isxyos se ananewsimes phges energeias, h prowqhsh megalwn ergwn, h qesmoqethsh 18 newn prostateyomenwn perioxwn kai h entajh panw apo to 20% toy edafoys ths xwras sto diktyo "Natura", einai metrhsima apotelesmata, eipe o k. Karamanlhs.

    Gia th Cyttaleia anefere oti einai to entypwsiakotero kai to megalytero paradeigma periballontikoy ergoy, oxi mono se eqnikh alla kai se eyrwpaikh klimaka kai apotelei thn kalyterh apanthsh se osoys poy sto krisimo qema toy periballontos epilegoyn ton eykolo alla baqia aneyqyno dromo toy laikismoy, toy mhdenismoy kai toy ceydoys.

    Einai h kataskeyh, eipe, kai acogh leitoyrgia toy megalyteroy ergostasioy jhranshs lymatolasphs sthn Eyrwph. Einai h metamorfwsh toy efialtikoy topioy poy paralabame se ena xwro prasinoy kai h paragwgh ananewsimhs qermikhs kai hlektrikhs energeias apo to bioaerio ths lymatolasphs me thn opoia kalyptontai oi anagkes twn ypersygxronwn egkatastasewn sthn Cyttaleia.

    Synenteyjh K. Karamanlh sto Star

    "Bebaiws qa eimai parwn stis epomenes ekloges", dhlwse o Kwstas Karamanlhs sthn thleoptikh synenteyjh poy edwse sto STAR CHANNEL kai to dhmosiografo Aimilio Liatso.

    O prwqypoyrgos eipe pws oi polites qa krinoyn an qa toy dwsoyn mia trith eykairia, enw gia tis eyrwekloges eipe pws kalo apotelesma einai h nikh. Parallhla shmeiwse oti opoio ki an einai to apotelesma "qa to doyme, qa to staqmisoyme, qa to krinoyme" kai tonise pws "den einai oi eyrwekloges poy epilegoyn kybernhsh kai prwqypoyrgo".

    Gia tis dhmoskophseis eipe pws einai xrhsima ergaleia poy lambanei ypoch toy, alla den einai ayto poy kaqorizei thn politikh kai krinei tis protimhseis twn eklogewn. Eipe epishs pws den qa aisqanqei eyxarista se periptwsh poy oi metrhseis epibebaiwqoyn kai epeshmane oti xreos toy einai na kanei o,ti prepei gia thn antimetwpish ths oikonomikhs krishs.

    Se o,ti afora thn apoxh, dhlwse pws einai morfh diamartyrias kai prosqese pws sthn politikh, th dhmosia zwh, ta pragmata ta allazoyn mono ekeinoi poy symmetexoyn.

    Epipleon eipe pws oi eyrwekloges exoyn idiaiterothtes kai ws pros ths symmetoxh kai ws pros thn epilogh kai einai pio eykolo na ekfrastei kaneis me chfo diamartyrias.

    "Exw dwsei polla apo th cyxh moy", eipe gia to ergo ths kybernhshs s' ayta ta pente xronia kai anefere pws aisqanqhke eqnikh yperhfaneia sto Boykoyresti.

    O prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke kai stis metarryqmiseis poy qa prowqhsei h kybernhsh kai diabebaiwse oti "prospaqoyme oso mporoyme na krathsoyme tis epiptwseis ths krishs, oso ginetai se xamhla epipeda".

    Se o,ti afora ta metra poy qa parei gia thn krish eipe oti qa einai opoia xreiastei "gia na bgoyme alwbhtoi, alla oxi me qerapeia sok".

    "H akatasxeth skandalologia blaptei genikotera to politiko systhma", eipe o k. Karamanlhs kai dhlwse fanatikos yposthrixths toy aithmatos gia diafaneia.

    Oso gia thn epiqesh toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy sthn kybernhsh peri fygadeyshs ypoptwn, o prwqypoyrgos apanthse pws ayta einai asteiothtes kai kwmika pragmata.

    Shmeiwse oti den einai h prwth fora poy parathroyntai dysleitoyrgies kai kaqysterhseis ston kratiko mhxanismo kai pws opoiosdhpote to apodidei se proqesh, eite to katalabainei, eite oxi, ftanei sta oria ths sykofantias.

    Gia ton Karolo Papoylia anefere pws qewrei oti kanei kala th doyleia toy kai exei aristh synergasia me oles tis politikes dynameis.

    "Einai idiaitera sympaqhs, agaphtos stoys ellhnes polites. Den blepw loipon giati den prepei na einai proedros kai gia mia nea qhteia", epeshmane kai parallhla prosqese pws hlpize oti exoyme ftasei se epipedo politikhs koyltoyras opoy ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, ton koryfaio ayto qesmo, ton afhnoyme ejw apo mikropolitikes skopimothtes.

    "Ayta poy akoyw apo thn pleyra toy PASOK moy projenoyn lyph, dhladh na empleketai to zhthma ths Proedrias ths Dhmokratias stis opoies mikrokommatikes, mikropolitikes skopimothtes", symplhrwse.

    Apantwntas sto Giwrgo Papandreoy gia to aithma toy gia prowres ekloges, kalese ton proedro toy PASOK "na katsei na skeftei kamia swsth protash kai kamia swsth qesh wste na mporoysame na petyxoyme mia synqesh apocewn gia na antimetwpisoyme ta qemata poy exei h xwra".

    Gia thn apogohteysh poy noiwqoyn oi neoi apo thn politikh kai toys politikoys, eipe oti th biwnei, enw anaferqhke sthn anagkh allaghs toy nomoy peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn, shmeiwnontas oti h apoch pws oloi einai fayloi h palianqrwpoi den apodidei thn alhqeia.

    O prwqypoyrgos dhlwse epishs pws exei skeftei polles fores an eprepe na exei pei ta peri semnothtas kai tapeinothtas, giati einai kati poy exei megalo krithrio ypokeimenismoy.

    "Telika pisteyw orqws to eipa giati me ekfrazei", prosqese enw anefere pws "oloi ajiologoymaste, olwn h symperifora aqroizetai kaqe mera kai tis telikes apofaseis qa tis parei o omilwn".

    Epiprosqeta paradexthke oti exei kanei kai laqh se epiloges proswpwn, alla den toy epitrepetai na tis paroysiasei dhmosia giati - opws eipe - qa ginei proion koytsompolioy.

    O k. Karamanlhs eipe epishs oti o teleytaios anasxhmatismos egine pro 4 mhnwn kai gia thn periptwsh neoy eipe pws "ayto toylaxiston mporw na sas to apokleisw".'

    Se erwthsh an qa mporoyse na skeftei thn piqanothta diakybernhshs ths xwras se synergasia me alla politika kommata, apanthse qewrhtika nai, shmeiwnontas oti den yparxei ayth h dynatothta ayth thn wra.

    "Den exw kanena logo na mh skeftomai etsi", eipe erwthqeis an qa ejantlhsei thn tetraetia, enw otan rwthqhke an qa parotrynei ta paidia toy na asxolhqoyn me thn politikh eipe oti einai diko toys dikaiwma na dialejoyn. "Ths manas toys kai diko moy xreos einai na frontisoyme to xarakthra toys, na einai kaloi anqrwpoi, semnoi kai tapeinoi, na toys dwsoyme ta efodia gia na staqoyn ston kosmo", symplhrwse, enw tonise pws h politikh den mporei kai den prepei na einai h prwth epilogh enos neoy paidioy alla prwta prepei na morfwqei, staqei sta podia toy, na dei ti einai h koinwnia, na gnwrisei pws bgainei to cwmi.

    [02] "Na allajoyme thn poreia ths xwras"

    Thn Kyriakh allazoyme gia na mh boyliajoyme, htan to mhnyma poy esteile se oloys toys Ellhnes o proedros toy PASOK Giwrgos Papandreoy, milwntas sthn teleytaia proeklogikh sygkentrwsh toy kommatos toy sto Hrakleio ths Krhths.

    H chfos sto PASOK, tonise o k. Papandreoy, einai mia chfos gia na allajei h xwra rota, na mpei sto dromo ths prasinhs anaptyjhs, gia th dikaih anadianomh toy ploytoy, thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh kai synoxh, gia mia politeia poy bazei prwta ton polith. Einai chfos elpidas, prosqese, chfos gia megales allages poy xreiazetai o topos, poy anoigei to dromo gia na exei h xwra mia sobarh kai ajiopisth kybernhsh alla kai mia eynomoymenh politeia.

    O k. Papandreoy xrhsimopoihse gia mia akomh fora thn frash mazi mporoyme na allajoyme thn poreia ths xwras, kalwntas se symmetoxh twn politwn stis ekloges ths Kyriakhs. H nikh toy PASOK, tonise o k. Papandreoy, qa einai nikh olwn twn dynamewn ths ergasias kai ths dhmioyrgias, twn dynamewn ths dhmokratias, ths proodoy kai ths aristeras, nikh ths megalhs koinwnikhs pleiochfias.

    H nea poreia, opws tonise o k. Papandreoy, mas xreiazetai oloys gia symmetoxh stis ekloges, alla kai chfo sto PASOK, oxi mono stoys chfoforoys toy PASOK alla kai se ellhnes poy exoyn apogohteytei apo thn pentaeth diakybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, toys anapofasistoys, se ekeinoys poy zhtane metriopaqeia kai noikokyrema, akoma kai se ekeinoys poy stis prohgoymenes ekloges chfisan Nea Dhmokratia kai eniwsan na prodidetai h empistosynh poy edwsan sto kybernwn komma.

    Se oloys aytoys, o k. Papandreoy aphyqyne prosklhthrio panstratias, to opoio xarakthrise prosklhthrio ths dhmokratias kai gi' ayto zhthse na mh leicei kaneis apo thn eklogikh maxh. Se antidiastolh pros thn chfo sto PASOK o k. Papandreoy tonise oti chfos sth Nea Dhmokratia qa einai mia chfos se aytoys poy byqisan thn Ellada se krish, se aytoys poy ependyoyn sto cema, sthn polwsh kai sth sykofantia, se mia kybernhsh kai enan prwqypoyrgo poy mas empaizoyn.

    O k. Papandreoy tonise oti einai apofasismenos na proxwrhsei stis megales allages kai na timhsei thn empistosynh twn politwn. "Monon esas qa yphrethsw", tonise kai prosqese oti sto onoma twn politwn einai apofasismenos na sygkroystei me ta megala symferonta kai me th diafqora poy dialyei th xwra.

    O proedros toy PASOK kathgorhse thn kybernhsh Karamanlh oti katedafise th xwra kai exase amaxhti istorikes eykairies gia thn Ellada kai diatypwse pente "oxi" apenanti ston prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhsh. Eidikotera ta oxi poy diatypwse o k. Papandreoy einai:

    - Oxi se enan prwqypoyrgo poy brisketai se omhria, poy kleinei th Boylh gia na sygkalycei kai na paragracei adikhmata twn ypoyrgwn.

    - Oxi se mia kybernhsh poy epibaryne me 80 dis xreos xwris na ependysei sthn paideia thn ygeia kai thn anaptyjh

    - Oxi se mia kybernhsh poy xarise 8 dis. asfalistikes eisfores stoys trapezites, enw ta Tameia xreokopoyn.

    - Oxi se mia kybernhsh poy xarise 5 dis. stoys megalometoxoys gia na ta plhrwsei meta o laos me thn ayjhsh ston FPA

    - Oxi se mia kybernhsh poy ekane toys ploysioys ploysioteroys kai toys ftwxoys ftwxoteroys.

    O proedros toy PASOK anaferqhke kai sthn egkataleich, opws eipe, ths Krhths apo thn kybernhshs ths Neas Dhmokratias. "H dejia afhse thn Krhth sthn tyxh ths" tonise kai milhse gia empaigmo, perifronhsh, agnohsh kai adikia pros thn perhfanh Krhth. Kai ola ayta ta apedwse sthn gnwsth, opws eipe, dixastikh praktikh ths dejias.

    O idios yposxeqhke oti ws kybernhsh qa prowqhsei politikes poy qa katasthsoyn thn Krhth anaptyjiako protypo gia olh th xwra.

    H synenteyjh sto Eqniko Praktoreio

    H nikh toy PASOK stis eyrwekloges qa apotelesei meizona anatroph toy sysxetismoy twn politikwn dynamewn kai toy politikoy skhnikoy, h opoia qa epitaxynei tis politikes ejelijeis, tonizei o proedros toy PASOK Giwrgos Papandreoy, se synenteyjh toy sto APE-MPE, dyo meres prin thn krisimh, opws ola deixnoyn, eklogikh anametrhsh ths Kyriakhs.

    O k. Papandreoy shmeiwnei epishs oti oi eqnikes ekloges den mporoyn na kaqysterhsoyn gia poly eite to qelei o k. Karamanlhs eite oxi. Kai qetei, emmesws plhn safws, orio thn Proedrikh eklogh, tonizontas oti h epaneklogh toy k. Papoylia qa htan kalytero na ginei apo mia Boylh "me nwph laikh entolh".

    O proedros toy PASOK kanei logo gia plhrh apotyxia ths ND sth diakybernhsh, h opoia einai epizhmia gia th xwra kai prosqetei oti "o logariasmos ths qhteias toy k. Karamanlh einai idiaitera odynhros gia thn Ellada kai toys Ellhnes". Ws ek toytoy qewrei oti oi eyrwekloges "kaqistantai ypoxrewtika dhmochfisma", gia thn aporrich ayths ths poreias ths xwras.

    Apantwntas sta peri "laikismoy kai aneyqynothtas" poy toy katalogizei h kybernhsh, o k. Papandreoy tonizei oti aneyqynothta einai na mh threis tis yposxeseis soy kai xarakthrise ypokritikh shmaia to "semna kai tapeina" toy k. Karamanlh.

    Se o,ti afora sta metra poy qa parei o idios gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths oikonomias, o Proedros toy PASOK, tonizei oti "sthn oikonomia kai sthn politikh yparxoyn panta epiloges" kai oti o idios qa sygkroystei gia tis epiloges toy, enw xarakthrizei "epwdyna", gia toys eynooymenoys ths kybernhshs, ta metra poy qa labei.

    Se erwthsh ti ennoei me th frash "den xrwstaw se kanena", o k. Papandreoy ejhgei oti ayto shmainei oti qetei to dhmosio symferon yperanw olwn kai tonizei oti o idios mporei na to kanei, dioti den ejartatai apo kanenan. Enw katalogizei ston k. Karamanlh oti "symperiferetai ws omhros symferontwn kai anomiwn".

    O proedros toy PASOK anaferetai kai sthn apoxh, tonizontas oti kapoioi thn enisxyoyn. Anaferetai epishs stis prosfates ejelijeis sthn ypoqesh ths Siemens, stis dhmoskophseis, sto Maastrixt, stoys agrotes, stoys metanastes kai bebaiws stis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, tonizontas oti prepei "na janapiasoyme apo thn arxh to nhma poy egkataleifqhke to 2004".

    Tonizei epishs oti sthn prwqypoyrgia "qa me anadeijei h pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy" kai malista "se peisma toy systhmatos", to opoio qewreitai oti anadeiknyei Prwqypoyrgoys.

    H synenteyjh toy proedroy toy PASOK exei ws ejhs:

    ER: Exete anagagei tis eyrwekloges se dhmochfisma gia thn kybernhsh. Ayth h epilogh sas antapokrinetai sto basiko diakybeyma aytwn twn eklogwn h sth "boylimia" sas gia ejoysia, opws sas kathgorei h kybernhsh, alla kai o idios o prwqypoyrgos proswpika;

    AP: To pragmatiko erwthma den einai an epidiwkeis na kybernhseis - opws kanei kaqe komma - alla pws diaxeirizesai thn ejoysia.

    H ND krybetai kai prospaqei na krycei thn plhrh ths apotyxia sthn diakybernhsh ths xwras.

    Apotyxia epizhmia gia th xwra logw ths pelateiakhs diaxeirishs ths ejoysias kai toy ploytoy toy ellhnikoy laoy.

    Diakybernhsh me alazonikh perifronhsh twn dhmokratikwn qesmwn, yponomeysh kaqe ennoias ajiokratias, diafaneias, aisqhshs dikaioy kai anqrwpias gia toys pio adynamoys.

    Einai h ND poy gantzwnetai shmera sthn ejoysia kaqws den distazei na probainei se prwtofaneis ektropes, na plhgwnei thn poiothta ths dhmokratias mas kai na xrhsimopoiei kaqe dynato meso prokeimenoy na sygkalycei tis anomies twn opoiwn einai omhros.

    Anti apologismoy ston ellhniko lao skandalogei liges meres pro twn eklogwn.

    Apo thn apografh ews thn paragrafh, o logariasmos ths qhteias toy k. Karamanlh einai idiaitera odynhros gia thn Ellada kai toys Ellhnes.

    Oi Eyrwekloges kaqistantai ypoxrewtika dhmochfisma aporrichs ayths ths poreias ths xwras mas.

    Prepei na anoijoyme thn porta ths elpidas.

    Prepei na gyrisoyme selida.

    Den zhtw na allajei to komma sthn kybernhsh alla na allajei politikh gia ton topo.

    Egw proswpika, emeis sto PASOK, eimaste apofasismenoi na to kanoyme.

    Me th symparastash kai energo symmetoxh olwn twn politwn.

    ER: Thn Kyriakh chfizoyme. Chfizoyme gia na epilejoyme metajy "sosialismoy kai barbarothtas" h metajy "laikismoy kai ypeyqynothtas"; Mhpws me tetoioy eidoys synqhmata paramenei h sygxysh stoys chfoforoys kai den bohqoyntai na epilejoyn me "kaqaro" myalo;

    AP: Aneyqynothta einai na exeis yposxeqei thn epanidrysh toy kratoys kai to kratos na dialyetai apo thn anajiokratia, tis "galazies synenteyjeis", thn epelash twn koymparwn, tis xeiroteres morfes kommatismoy.

    Einai na exeis yposxeqei "mhdenikh anoxh sth diafqora", na kaneis ypokritikh shmaia soy to "semna kai tapeina" kai h Ellada na boyliazei ypo to baros prwtofanwn skandalwn poy prospaqeis me kaqe tropo na sygkalyceis.

    Einai na exeis yposxeqei to 5% toy AEP gia thn paideia kai sth synexeia na meiwneis kaqe xrono toys poroys gia thn paideia.

    Einai na exeis yposxeqei th meiwsh twn spatalwn sto dhmosio kata 10 dis eyrw to xrono kai na exeis ayjhsei to xreos twn Ellhnwn kata 80 dis eyrw, enw ta tameia toy kratoys exoyn adeiasei apo thn kakodiaxeirish, th spatalh, thn adiafaneia.

    Einai na desmeyesai pws den qa baleis neoys foroys kai na anaireis thn yposxesh ayth mesa se liges ebdomades.

    Aneyqynothta kai laikismos einai na mhn paradexesai tipote apo ola ayta kai na kathgoreis toys epikrites soy gia aneyqynothta kai laikismo.

    Emeis qesame ena kaqaro dilhmma stoys Ellhnes polites.

    Synexizoyme ston idio dromo h allazoyme poreia; Allazoyme h boyliazoyme;

    Epibrabeyoyme tis neosynthrhtikes politikes poy mas odhgoyn kaqe mera pio konta sth barbarothta h epilegoyme proodeytikes lyseis, lyseis poy bazoyn sto epikentro ton polith, to koinwniko kratos, thn paideia, thn prasinh anaptyjh;

    Para thn prospaqeia syskotishs ths ND, oi polites antilambanontai pws ayto einai to pragmatiko dilhmma twn eklogwn.

    ER: Kathgoreite thn kybernhsh oti skopeyei na parei nea kai sklhra forologika metra apo thn epomenh twn eyrweklogwn kai zhtate apo ton k. Karamanlh na topoqethqei dhmosia kai anoixta, opws lete, sto qema ayto. An ola ejelixqoyn opws epiqymeite, ta problhmata ths ellhnikhs oikonomias qa prepei na ta xeiristeite eseis. Pws qa ta antimetwpisete; Den qa parete sklhra metra;

    AP: H ND elabe sklhra metra kata twn asqenesterwn kai ths mesaias tajhs. O idios o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados eipe oti epi ND oi ploysioi eginan ploysioteroi kai oi ftwxoi ftwxoteroi.

    Emeis qa laboyme metra dikaia, alla sthn antiqeth kateyqynsh.

    Gia ena eynomoymeno kratos poy anadianemei dikaia ton ployto, poy qa forologei ton ployto ekei poy yparxei, poy katapolema ton parasitismo kai thn adiafaneia poy adeiazoyn ta kratika tameia.

    H forologhsh twn dianemomenwn kerdwn twn epixeirhsewn ws atomiko eisodhma kai h parallhlh meiwsh ths forologias sta kerdh poy epanependyontai einai epwdyno metro gia toys megalometoxoys, gia toys merismatoyxoys poy den epanependyoyn ta kerdh toys, alla einai eyergetiko gia thn anaptyjh kai thn apasxolhsh.

    H katapolemhsh ths forodiafyghs, ths forologikhs asylias mesw off-shore etaireiwn, ths eisforodiafyghs poy exoyn ektinaxqei sta ych einai epwdynh gia osoys trefontai apo ton parasitismo alla einai dikaih gia to koinwniko synolo.

    H katarghsh toy ETAK kai h epanakaqierwsh enos proodeytikoy foroy sth megalh idiokthsia einai epwdyno metro gia toys ligoys megaloidiokthtes alla eyergetiko gia toys polloys mikroidiokthtes.

    H katapolemhsh ths spatalhs kai ths diafqoras einai epwdynh gia to kommatiko kratos poy gigantwse h ND enw h kaqierwsh kanonwn diafaneias pantoy qigei osoys h adiafaneia bohqa na apomyzoyn ta kratika tameia.

    Sthn oikonomia kai sthn politikh yparxoyn panta epiloges. Emeis exoyme, egw exw thn boylhsh na sygkroystw kai na allajoyme antilhceis pelateiakes.

    Oi polites mporoyn na sygkrinoyn tis dikes mas epiloges me aytes ths ND.

    ER: Apo thn allh pleyra, h kybernhsh sas kathgorei oti mhdenizete ta panta, stereiste qesewn, tazete ta panta stoys pantes kai pote den exete kanei epoikodomhtikes protaseis gia otidhpote. Leei alhqeies h kybernhsh;

    AP: H kybernhsh poly qa hqele mia antipoliteysh en ypnwsei kai mia koinwnia paraithmenh mprosta sta problhmata.

    Einai h monh ths elpida mprosta sta adiejoda ths. Den ths kanoyme kammia xarh. Exei terasties eyqynes gia thn tragikh katastash kai eikona ths xwras mas. Ta oikonomika adiejoda, toys proypologismoys toy kratoys poy peftoyn ejw, th diafqora pantoy.

    Kai eimaste perhfanoi oti shmera exoyme kataqesei tekmhriwmeno kai ajiopisto programma gia tis 5 eqnikes proteraiothtes.

    Epejergasmenes qeseis, proodeytikes protaseis kai lyseis gia kaqe megalo qema.

    Ayto einai to kaqhkon mas.

    Kai sto kaqhkon mas antapokrinomaste me ton kalytero dynato tropo.

    Pote antipoliteysh sthn Ellada den eixe toso oloklhrwmenes kai epejergasmenes qeseis gia ola ta qemata.

    Exoyme plhres sxedio diakybernhshs poy exoyme paroysiasei stoys Ellhnes polites me pente eqnikoys stoxoys: na janadwsoyme fwnh kai kyros sthn Ellada dieqnws, h dwrean ychlhs poiothtas paideia na apotelesei koryfaia proteraiothta, na oikodomhsoyme ena sygxrono koinwniko kratos antajio prohgmenhs xwras, na anasygkrothsoyme thn oikonomia mas prowqwntas thn prasinh anaptyjh, na anadomhsoyme to kratos wste na katastei diafanes kai filiko ston polith.

    Den yposxomaste tipote poy den mporoyme na kanoyme.

    H ND einai ayth poy stereitai oramatos akoma kai sxedioy akribws dioti leitoyrgei pelateiaka, agetai kai feretai apo ta megala h mikrikommatika symferonta.

    Fanhke kaqara kai se ayth thn proeklogikh ekstrateia.

    Kanena sxedio gia to mellon, kamia empistosynh den enepneyse oti kati qa allajei pros to kalytero.

    Den probale apolytws kamia qesh gia thn Eyrwph, giati den qelei kai den jerei na diekdikei.

    Oso gia thn kritikh peri mhdenistikhs symperiforas mas, askhsame me eyqynh to kaqhkon mas ws ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh.

    Akomh kai sta dyskola eqnika qemata, opws sto zhthma ths onomasias ths p.G.D.M., analabame prwtoi tis eyqynes mas, xarassontas thn eqnikh kokkinh grammh.

    Apeyqynqhka panta sth ND gia synergasia se krisima zhthmata, opws ta eqnika qemata, h katapolemhsh ths diafqoras.

    Fysika, den elaba pote apanthsh.

    Symmeteixame kai symmetexoyme me protaseis ston dialogo gia thn paideia - paroti o neos ypoyrgos esbhse ta teleytaia 5 xronia ths ND me thn frash - ola apo mhdenikh bash.

    Apodeixqhke sthn prajh poios eixe dhmioyrgikh stash kai poios mhdenistikh symperifora.

    ER: Sas akoyme, teleytaia, na lete "den xrwstaw se kanenan". Ti ennoeite; Ti qa mporoysate na xrwstate; H mhpws qelete na peite oti kapoioi xrwstane; An einai etsi poioi xrwstane kai se poioys; Kai ti shmainei na xrwstaei enas politikos;

    AP: Poly apla. Qetw to dhmosio symferon yperanw filwn, koymparwn, kollhtwn, isxyrwn paragontwn.

    Opws ena dhmokratiko komma ofeilei.

    Kai mporw na to kanw dioti den ejartwmai apo kanenan.

    O k. Karamanlhs apo tis kinhseis toy katamartyrei fobo, adynamia kai telika omhreia stis ypoqeseis poy sygkalyce. Zhta thn lhqh, fobatai thn alhqeia.

    Den yparxei xeirotero fainomeno gia mia xwra apo ena prwqypoyrgo poy symperiferetai ws omhros symferontwn kai anomiwn. Ti na prwtoqymhqoyme; To prwtofanes gegonos ths ypoklophs twn thlefwnikwn synomiliwn ths politikhs hgesias ths xwras to opoio ekrybe h kybernhsh epi ena xrono kai gia to opoio den apodoqhke eyqynh se kanena; Ta domhmena omologa gia ta opoia kai pali den apodoqhke h eyqynh se kanena politiko proswpo kai poy qa eixan twra odhghsei ta asfalistika tameia se xreokopia an to PASOK den edine maxh gia thn ypoqesh ayth; Thn ypoqesh Siemens gia thn opoia h ND arnhqhke th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs 3 fores kai poy sernetai edw kai xronia enw oi basikoi ypoptoi kai martyres drapeteyoyn anenoxlhtoi sto ejwteriko; To skandalo toy Batopedioy poy kata ton k. Karamanlh sthqhke apo dyo monaxoys kai ena aorato dikty dhmosiwn ypallhlwn poy ypeklecan se astrapiaioys xronoys tis ypografes toswn ypoyrgwn;

    Se oles aytes tis ypoqeseis, h stash ths kybernhshs kai toy k. Karamanlh proswpika htan h emmonh sthn arnhsh toy skandaloy se prwth fash kai h sygkalych me kaqe tropo sth synexeia wste na mhn maqeytei h alhqeia, na mhn apodoqoyn eyqynes. Ta symperasmata ta bgazoyn oi Ellhnes polites ek toy apotelesmatos.

    Proswpika, eimai apofasismenos na gyrisw selida. Kanenas den mas krata se omhria giati eimaste pepeismenoi pws h katapolemhsh ths diafqoras kai ths adiafaneias einai eqnikh ypoqesh, einai oros eqnikhs epibiwshs. Qa sygkroystoyme me kaqe megalo kai mikro symferon mexri na niwsoyn oi Ellhnes polites pws zoyn se ena eynomoymeno kratos, se ena kratos poy yphretei ta dika toys symferonta kai oxi tis orejeis twn opoiwn ejwqesmikwn epirrown.

    ER: Prin liges meres, sth Larisa, eipate oti kapoioi enisxyoyn ta mikra kommata kai thn apoxh. Poia kommata ennoeite kai giati lete oti enisxyoyn thn apoxh; H megalh apoxh den eynoei to prwto komma, to opoio, opws lete, einai to diko sas komma;

    AP: H apoxh eynoei thn apaqeia, thn moirolatria, thn paraithsh. Den einai qema kommatikwn posostwn. Einai qema mias antilhchs poy kapoioi skopima kalliergoyn kai poy emeis qeloyme na anatrecoyme.

    To "den ginetai tipota", "den allazei tipota", "oloi idioi einai".

    Emeis qeloyme ton polith energo dioti einai o monadikos mas symmaxos.

    Qeloyme na chfisei, akomh kai an den mas chfisei, dioti den qeloyme na afhnei thn tyxh toy sta xeria allwn.

    Dioti oi megales tomes kai allages poy apaitoyntai sthn koinwnia mas xreiazontai energoys polites poy qa poyn th gnwmh toys, qa syndiamorfwsoyn tis allages, qa symmetexoyn sta koina.

    ER: Apo aytes tis ekloges qa epitrepetai h dhmosiopoihsh dhmoskophsewn mexri kai dyo meres prin tis ekloges. Me dedomeno oti yparxei, sto xwro toy PASOK mia kaxypocia sxetika me tis dhmoskophseis kai tis skopimothtes poy mporei na ejyphretoyn, fobaste oti mporei na yparjoyn aqemites praktikes, na apotelesei peirasmo gia kapoioys, opws eipe o ekproswpos toy kommatos sas;

    AP: Den zoyme se koinwnia aggelwn kai gnwrizoyme oloi pws oi peirasmoi einai yparktoi. Ypenqymisame se oloys thn aytonohth ypoxrewsh toys na staqoyn sto ycos twn eyqynwn toys. Den fobomaste tipota dioti exei pia ftasei h wra ths kalphs, h wra poy qa milhsoyn oi Ellhnes polites.

    ER: Sthn ypoqesh ths Siemens eixame shmantikes ejelijeis, me thn "apodrash" dyo ypoptwn, thn profylakish allwn dyo kai thn emplokh ths MAYO, h opoia feretai oti anhkei sthn oikogeneia Mhtsotakh. Qewreitai oti ola ayta syndeontai metajy toys kai me to kleisimo ths Boylhs h oti prokeitai gia sxedio ths kybernhshs, opws eipe o Apostolos Kaklamanhs;

    AP: Ypoqeseis poy talaipwroyn ton topo edw kai 2, 3 h kai 4 xronia paragrafthkan xwris na diereynhqoyn apo thn Boylh twn Ellhnwn.

    Den xreiazetai allh apodeijh ths spoydhs ths Kybernhshs gyrw apo tis ypoqeseis aytes.

    Emeis zhthsame na lamcei olh h alhqeia, na apodoqei kaqe eyqynh stoys ypaitioys, akomh kai an kapoioi anhkoyn sto diko mas xwro.

    Proswpika kalesa sth Boylh ton k. Karamanlh na kaqarisoyme apo koinoy thn ypoqesh ayth. Wste o Ellhnikos laos na maqei thn alhqeia kai na pacoyn na yparxoyn skies epi dikaiwn kai adikwn.

    O k. Karamanlhs arnhqhke gia allh mia fora.

    H ND arnhqhke kat'epanalhch th systash ejetastikhs epitrophs sth Boylh, enw meta th dialysh ths poy odhghse se oristikh paragrafh twn opoiwn adikhmatwn politikwn proswpwn, oi basikoi ypoptoi kai martyres afeqhkan na diafygoyn sto ejwteriko.

    O kaqenas mas bgazei ta symperasmata toy.

    ER: Qewreite oti to apotelesma twn eyrweklogwn qa einai qetiko gia sas kai qa apotelesei prokrima gia prowres eqnikes ekloges. Giati pisteyete oti o k. Karamanlhs qa paei se ekloges an prokeitai na tis xasei; Ki an den paei, eseis eisaste apofasismenos na tis prokalesete me aformh thn eklogh Proedroy Dhmokratias. An prokalesete ekloges, pws qa chfisete ton Karolo Papoylia, opws exete pei;

    AP: Oi ekloges den mporoyn na kaqysterhsoyn gia poly akomh, eite to qelei eite den to qelei o k. Karamanlhs. Apo th mia h xwra exei mpei se mia kaqolikh krish poy qigei toys qesmoys, to politiko systhma, thn oikonomia, thn asfaleia, to koinwniko kratos ews kai th dieqnh eikona ths xwras mas. Kai h xwra xreiazetai kybernhsh ajiopisth, me entolh nwph apo ton ellhniko lao.

    Se mia dhmokratia, th lysh sta megala adiejoda th dinoyn oi polites me th chfo toys.

    H stash mas sto qema toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias einai stash eyqynhs.

    Sebomaste toso to ajiwma oso kai ton k. Papoylia poy to tima me ton kalytero dynato tropo. Dhlwsame pws eimaste etoimoi na yperchfisoyme thn epaneklogh toy, an o idios to epiqymei.

    Ayto qa mporoyse na ginei me ton kalytero dynato tropo apo ena koinoboylio me nwph laikh entolh.

    ER: Exete pei polles fores oti ws prwqypoyrgos qa allajete to politiko systhma. Qelete na peite oti qa anatrecete to systhma poy qa sas anadeijei, opws qa elege kai o Maxatma Gkanti;

    AP: Qa me anadeijei h pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy - se peisma toy systhmatos poy yponoeite.

    Den me endiaferei na katalabw allo ena ajiwma. Qelw na allajw ta pragmata sth xwra mas.

    Qelw na apallagei h xwra moy apo xronies paqogeneies adiafaneias, ypogeiwn epirrown, pelateiakhs leitoyrgias, anajiokratias, kommatismoy.

    Ayta einai poy mas kratane pisw, poy paragoyn anisothtes, poy mas empodizoyn na anaptyjoyme th dhmioyrgikothta mas, poy mas empodizoyn na anaptyxqoyme.

    Orama moy einai ena sygxrono eynomoymeno kratos poy sebetai toys polites kai protassei ta dikaiwmata toys.

    Oloys toys polites anejarthta apo thn oikonomikh toys qesh, thn isxy toys, thn kommatikh toys entajh, to fylo toys, tis proswpikes toys protimhseis. Aytos einai o stoxos mas, ayth einai desmeysh moy.

    ER: Yposthrizete th dhmioyrgia enos Symfwnoy Apasxolhshs dipla sth synqhkh toy Maastrixt, h opoia qa parameinei ws exei. Pragmatika pisteyete oti to Maastrixt prepei na parameinei to Eyaggelio ths EE, h logoi taktikhs sas odhghsan se ayth th qesh;

    AP: Zhtame ena Symfwno Apasxolhshs etsi wste na dwsoyme sarka kai osta se mia pragmatika koinwnikh Eyrwph, mia Eyrwph gia toys polites. Zhtame omws taytoxrona kai thn anaqewrhsh toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas giati den qeloyme na antimetwpizontai ws elleimmata kai spatales oi ependyseis sthn paideia kai thn ereyna, sto koinwniko kratos, sthn prasinh anaptyjh. Oi ependyseis aytes einai makroproqesma wfelimes gia thn koinwnia, beltiwnoyn thn eyhmeria, proagoyn thn antagwnistikothta. Parallhla, den mporei se wra krishs na protassetai dogmatika h dhmosionomikh ejygiansh se baros ths anaptyjhs. H anagkaia dhmosionomikh ejygiansh mporei na ginei me poly kalyteres proypoqeseis kai kyriws me koinwnika pio dikaio tropo an stoxeysoyme prwta sthn anaqermansh ths oikonomias kai sthn epistrofh ths anaptyjhs.

    ER: Oi agrotes exoyn megalo meridio sth nikh toy PASOK to 1981. Sth synexeia to komma sas mallon toys egkateleice me apotelesma na strafoyn sth ND. Twra, probalei o kindynos ths anaqewrhshs ths KAP epi to dysmenestero gia ton Ellhna agroth. Ti qa kanete; Qa ton egkataleicete gia mia akoma fora h staqeite sto pleyro toy kai pws;

    AP: To PASOK exei akatalytoys desmoys me ton kosmo ths ypaiqroy. H istoria mas einai syndedemenh me agwnes gia thn perifereiakh anaptyjh, thn apokentrwsh, th beltiwsh ths qeshs twn agrotwn. Qeloyme mia apokentrwmenh Ellada, me zwntanes kai isxyres perifereies. Ayto den mporei na ginei xwris na frontisoyme gia ton kosmo ths agrotias. Exoyme apodeijei pws jeroyme kai mporoyme na dinoyme maxes sthn EE kai na tis kerdizoyme yper twn symferontwn ths xwras.

    Exoyme desmeytei pws qa sthrijoyme to eisodhma twn agrotwn kai ths agrotikhs paragwghs. Qa agwnistoyme sthn EE gia th diathrhsh toy Koinotikoy xarakthra kai thn eparkh xrhmatodothsh ths KAP sth meta to 2013 periodo kai thn apotroph ths merikhs h olikhs epaneqnikopoihshs ths KAP. Qa ajiopoihsoyme apotelesmatika toys koinotikoys poroys gia oloklhrwmenes parembaseis ston agrotiko tomea, me stoxo thn enisxysh ths antagwnistikothtas, thn prostasia toy periballontos, ths diatrofikhs asfaleias, kaqws kai thn orqologistikh diaxeirish twn ydatwn. Kyriws omws, qa dwsoyme nea prooptikh sthn agrotikh paragwgh me thn prasinh anaptyjh kai th sthrijh ths paragwghs gewrgikwn kai kthnotrofikwn proiontwn ychlhs poiothtas kai ajias, poy qa exoyn taytothta sthn egxwria kai dieqnh agora.

    ER: To metanasteytiko teinei na ginei to pio ekrhktiko problhma gia thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Terastios ariqmos (laqro)metanastwn, perioxes poy den mporeis na plhsiaseis, ekdhlwseis ratsismoy, anqhsh akrodejiwn antilhcewn klp. Pws qa lysete to problhma. Mporei h lysh na einai h posostwsh;

    AP: Gia allh mia fora, h kybernhsh ayth apoysiazei sto qema ths metanasteyshs kai exei dhmioyrghsei en dynamei mia pyritidoapoqhkh koinwnikwn ekrhjewn sta nhsia kai tis poleis mas. H xwra xreiazetai mia metanasteytikh politikh me treis basikoys ajones.

    Prwton, na entajoyme apotelesmatika toys nomimoys metanastes sthn koinwnia mas. Na aisqanqoyn oi idioi kai ta paidia toys ajioprepeia kai sebasmo. Pws h diamonh toys sth xwra mas shmainei dikaiwmata kai ypoxrewseis. Mia tetoia politikh qa stamathsei thn gketopoihsh kai thn polwsh stis koinwnies mas.

    Deyteron, kalyterh antimetwpish ths laqrometanasteyshs sta synora mas -alla kai me sebasmo sta anqrwpina dikaiwmata- me efarmogh kai enisxysh -opws ekana ws Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn- twn diasynoriakwn symfwniwn mas, synergasies gia thn apotroph toy doylemporioy kai thn epanaprowqhsh twn laqrometanastwn.

    Triton, eimaste pylh eisodoy laqrometanastwn gia to synolo ths EE. Apaiteitai loipon na diekdikhsoyme mia pragmatikh Eyrwpaikh strathgikh kata ths laqrometanasteyshs h opoia na sthrizei th opoia na kanei prajh tis arxes ths allhleggyhs kai na sthrizei th xwra mas sthn prospaqeia ths fylajhs twn ejwterikwn synorwn ths EE.

    ER: Aytes tis meres ki enw sthn Ellada asxoloymaste me diafora sobara h mh qemata, parathreitai mia entash sthn Kypro, gyrw apo thn ekmetalleysh twn petrelaiwn, me thn Toyrkia na ektojeyei apeiles. To qema den apasxolei th dhmosia syzhthsh sthn Ellada, alla einai poly sobaro. Pisteyete oti ayto prepei na synypologistei sth diamorfwsh ths ellhnikhs qeshs ton Dekembrio, otan qa krinetai h Toyrkia; Kai poia prepei na einai h qesh ths Elladas me bash th mexri twra stash ths Toyrkias apenanti stis ypoxrewseis ths;

    AP: H adraneia ths kybernhshs ta teleytaia xronia, h aposyrsh ths xwras mas apo to dieqnes proskhnio, h paqhtikh diplwmatia twn teleytaiwn etwn, h ejasqenish ths dieqnoys qeshs ths xwras, h egkataleich toy Elsinki kai h spoydh ths ND na apempolhsei prokatabolika to opoio dikaiwma beto eklambanetai apo thn allh pleyra ws adynamia me apotelesma th sklhrynsh twn qesewn kai thn emfanish pio proklhtikwn symperiforwn.

    Ofeiloyme na ypenqymizoyme me kaqe eykairia pws h boylhsh gia eirhnikh synyparjh prepei na apodeiknyetai emprakta kai apo thn allh pleyra kai pws h diathrhsh ths eyrwpaikhs prooptikhs gia thn Toyrkia proypoqetei prajeis ek meroys ths Toyrkias poy epibebaiwnoyn th boylhsh ths gia sxeseis kalhs geitonias.

    H kybernhsh toy PASOK eixe petyxei shmantika bhmata sthn kateyqynsh ths beltiwshs twn sxesewn me thn Toyrkia me mia politikh synexwn prwtoboyliwn poy edinan sth xwra mas strathgiko pleonekthma. Dystyxws, kai sto qema ayto qa prepei na janapiasoyme apo thn arxh to nhma poy egkataleifqhke to 2004.

    ER: Poses piqanothtes dinete sto endexomeno na erqete deytero komma stis eyrwekloges ths Kyriakhs; Ki an erqete prwto komma kai me diafora, poia qa einai h prwth sas kinhsh thn epomenh, an oxi kai to idio to brady twn eklogwn;

    AP: O phxhs gia mas einai enas kai monadikos: h nikh stis Eyrwekloges. Den yparxei allo senario. Ta swreymena problhmata kai adiejoda qetoyn hdh ek twn pragmatwn qema eklogwn sth xwra. Me aisqhma eyqynhs apenanti sth xwra kai prokeimenoy na anakocoyme ena kathforo poy synexizetai, qesame edw kai kairo qema prosfyghs sth laikh etymhgoria. H nikh toy PASOK stis eyrwekloges qa apotelesei mia meizona anatroph toy sysxetismoy dynamewn kai toy politikoy skhnikoy. Qa epitaxynei tis ejelijeis kai qa dhmioyrghsei kalyteres proypoqeseis gia mia amesh allagh poreias ths xwras.

    Synenteyjh sthn efhmerida "TA NEA"

    ``Mporoyme na allajoyme ta pragmata. Mporoyme na janaferoyme thn elpida. Xreiazomaste mia nea arxh, me nea hgesia. Me orama, filodojia, sxedio, ychloys stoxoys. Qa allajoyme poreia gia na mh boyliajoyme. Den qa symbibastoyme me th metriothta kai to telma. To prwto bhma einai ayrio na katadikasoyme tis politikes ths N.D. poy odhgoyn se mia olo kai pio mizerh, adikh, adiafanh, anasfalh kai anisxyrh Ellada. Oso gia to mpanio mas, thn Kyriakh exoyme olo ton xrono na kanoyme to kaqhkon mas apenanti sth xwra kai sth synexeia na boythjoyme se mia apo tis yperoxes paralies mas'' dhlwnei o proedros toy PASOK se synenteyjh toy poy dhmosieyetai sthn efhmerada "TA NEA toy Sabbatokyrikoy".

    O k. Papandreoy xarakthrizei thn kybernhsh ``omhro anomiwn kai mias problhmatikhs koinoboyleytikhs pleiochfias, adynamh, fobikh'' poy den mporei na prosferei lysh sta problhmata poy h idia dhmioyrghse kai tonizei pws ``mia prwtia toy PASOK stis eyrwekloges qa shmainei mia syntriptikh htta gia tis politikes toys'', enw ektima pws h kybernhsh den qa antejei ypo to baros twn problhmatwn kai qa anagkastei na prokhryjei ekloges prin apo th diadikasia gia thn eklogh Proedroy ths Dhmokratias to 2010.

    O k. Papandreoy kalei toys polites na proselqoyn mazika ayrio stis kalpes kai proanaggellei oti apo thn epomenh twn eklogwn- kai ws tis eqnikes ekloges opote ki an aytes prokhryxqoyn- to PASOK qa enteinei thn antipoliteysh toy sthn kybernhsh, ``peiqontas olo kai perissoteroys polites pws yparxei diejodos, dyskolh alla efikth, pws yparxoyn lyseis kai epiloges''.

    ``Sygkrotoyme mia olo kai eyryterh pleiochfia, mia megalh koinwnikh symmaxia poy qa ferei thn allagh kai qa symmetexei energa sth diamorfwsh kai efarmogh twn megalwn proodeytikwn metarryqmisewn poy qa dromologhsoyme ws ayrianh kybernhsh'' tonise.

    Gia to skandalo ths Siemens kai to sirial me th diafygh toy Xr. Karabela tonizei oti o prwqypoyrgos qa eprepe na eixe zhthsei hdh tis paraithseis twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn kai Dikaiosynhs kai pws, oso den to kanei, oi eyqynes epimerizontai kai sto Megaro Majimoy.

    Kathgorei th Nea Dhmokratia oti ekeinh einai poy skandalologei kai yposthrizei oti to 2007 otan sthn kritikh toy sthn kybernhsh protaje ta skandala ``h alhqeia skepasthke apo toys kapnoys twn pyrkagiwn''.

    Shmeiwnei oti h oikonomia kai ta skandala einai dyo qemata "kaqe allo para asyndeta metajy toys". ``H dhmosionomikh katarreysh syndeetai amesa me thn ayjhsh ths adiafaneias sth diaxeirish toy dhmosioy xrhmatos'' anaferei kai dhlwnei pws ``prwth proteraiothta ths ayrianhs mas kybernhshs afora akribws thn taytoxronh antimetwpish twn dyo aytwn qematwn. Me metra poy apokaqistoyn thn empistosynh sto politiko systhma, stoys qesmoys ths xwras kai dromologoyn kanones diafaneias pantoy. Kai me ena ektakto sxedio diaswshs kai anaqermanshs ths oikonomias gia thn antimetwpish ths oikonomikhs krishs''.

    [03] "Sthn Eyrwph h eyqynh twn synorwn"

    O prwtos stoxos toy LAOS sto Eyrwkoinoboylio gia thn epomenh pentaetia einai na erqei h Eyrwph edw kai na analabei thn eyqynh twn synorwn, tonise sto APE-MPE o proedros toy kommatos Giwrgos Karatzaferhs.

    ``Prepei na fylaxqoyn ta synora gia na periorisqei h kaqhmerinh eisroh laqrometanastwn'',epishmainei o proedros toy LAOS,o opoios tonizei oti h qesh toy kommatos toy einai h posostwsh.

    ``Osoi den mporoyn na aporrofhqoyn,prepei na epanaprowqhqoyn. Den mporei h Ellada poy balletai kai prosballetai kaqhmerina na antejei ena tetoio megalo fortio'', eipe o k.Karatzaferhs.

    Ektima epishs oti oi eyrwekloges dinoyn thn eykairia ston ellhniko lao ``na balei thn tafoplaka sthn prwth metapoliteytikh periodo'' kai askei sklhrh kritikh sthn kybernhsh, enw zhta thn plhrh dialeykansh ths ypoqeshs Siemens kai pisteyei oti o prwqypoyrgos ``qa deinopaqhsei otan anoijei jana h Boylh''.

    Tassetai kata ths entajhs ths Toyrkias sthn EE kai tonizei oti ``h eggyhsh poy dinei o LAOS einai oti oso eimaste mesa sto Eyrwkoinoboylio kai to Ellhniko Koinoboylio, den prokeitai na afhsoyme na perasoyn ta sxedia twn Amerikanwn gia thn perioxh''.

    H synenteyjh toy Giwrgoy Karatzaferh sto APE - MPE, ston politiko syntakth K. Melissopoylo exei ws ejhs:

    ER:Kyrie Proedre, ti diakybeyetai sb aytes tis Eyrwekloges;

    AP: Katarxas, nomizw oti to qema einai sobarotero apb o,ti pisteyoyme oloi mas. To 67-68% twn apofasewn poy ephreazoyn th zwh toy Ellhna polith pairnontai sthn Eyrwph. Ara, loipon, prepei na prosejoyme poly poioys qa steiloyme epanw, na mporoyn na shkwnoyn anasthma, na mporoyn na synomiloyn mb aytoys poy apofasizoyn gia mas xwris emas. Ayth einai h gnwsth parea toy Trise, toy Mparozo, toy Almoynia kai olwn aytwn poy diamorfwnoyn thn kaqhmerinothta mas.

    ER: Poio qa htan to apotelesma poy qa sas ikanopoioyse;

    AP: Emeis prospaqoyme? Prospaqoyme sobara mesa sto Koinoboylio. H Koinoboyleytikh mas omada einai prwth se paroysies, prwth se prosfora kai prwth sthn olomeleia. Orgwnoyme thn Ellada kai diekdikoyme mia chfo parapanw apb oti eixame parei stis prohgoymenes Eyrwekloges. Pisteyw oti o laos qa mas th dwsei kai emeis qa eimaste eygnwmones gia kati kalytero. Den yioqetoyme bermpalismoys gia dichfia noymera giati synhqws aytoi odhgoyn se kaka apotelesmata

    ER: H epilogh ths kas Nikhs Tzabella htan mia ekplhjh. Ti shmatodotei ayth h epilogh, me dedomeno to parelqon kai thn istoria ths;

    AP: H ka Tzabella htan epiqymhth apo ola ta kommata. To oti katorqwsa na thn parw egw fantazei ws ekplhjh. Einai san na qelei na parei kapoion paikth o Panaqhnaikos kai na ton pairnei o Paniwnios? H ka Tzabella exei polles kai sobares pergamhnes, tis opoies egw qa ajiopoihsw sto Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio

    ER: Qa yparjoyn ejelijeis meta tis Eyrwekloges; Ti pisteyete oti qa ginei;

    AP: Oi ekloges aytes dinoyn thn eykairia ston Ellhniko lao na balei thn tafoplaka sthn prwth metapoliteytikh periodo. Kairos na perasoyme sthn epomenh mera. O laos blepei ta tzakia poy plhsiazoyn apeilhtika, blepei ta skandala apo to ena h to allo komma. Prepei loipon o Ellhnikos laos na skeftei wrima kai na proxwrhsei se mia synqeth politikh zwh, opws stis perissoteres Eyrwpaikes kai politika politismenes xwres.

    ER: Meta tis Eyrwekloges kai to opoio apotelesma ektimate oti oi prowres ekloges qa einai mia lysh gia th diejodo apb thn krish;

    AP: Oxi, de qa doqei lysh sto problhma. Gia na prokycei aytodynamh kybernhsh xreiazontai pollaples eklogikes anametrhseis tis opoies kai den antexei h xwra. Ayth h mania poy diakatexei ton k. Papandreoy den prepei na ginei odhgos gia oloys emas toys ypoloipoys. Oxi mono ekloges gia na ikanopoihqoyn ta kapritsia kapoiwn. Prepei kapoios na skeftei kai thn patrida kai emeis skeftomaste sobara gia thn patrida.

    ER: Antexei pisteyete h kybernhsh na bgalei th tetraetia dedomenhs ths isxnhs kybernhtikhs pleiochfias;

    AP: Oxi. O K. Karamanlhs dhlwse koyrasmenos kai otan kaqe mera fortwnontai kai nea fortia h kopwsh ayth sto telos qa apobei entelws arnhtikh. Kaqe mera exoyme kai skandala. Oi xeirismoi oi opoioi ginontai kaqe mera einai kai xeiroteroi. Poly fobamai oti o k. Karamanlhs qa deinopaqhsei thn prwth mera poy qa anoijei jana th Boylh. Thn ekleise me ena akomco kai proklhtiko tropo kai qa einai o prwtos prwqypoyrgos poy qa kybernhsei 6 mhnes xwris th Boylh anoikth kai ton Oktwbrio, opws lene ta papagalakia, qa kanei ekloges. Egw qelw na anoijei h Boylh gia na mporesoyme na oloklhrwsoyme ayto poy afhsame sth mesh. Na ejetasqei poy phgan oi mizes ths Siemens. Na ejetasqei h emplokh toy PASOK kai kapoiwn Ypoyrgwn. Kai ta dyo kommata den qeloyn na xyqei apleto fws kai na fwtisqoyn oles oi ptyxes toy skandaloy. Ayto poy egine me toys martyres einai prosblhtiko. Oloi oi qesmoi eytelizontai kai o tropos me ton opoio leitoyrgoyn Ypoyrgoi kai Dikaiosynh einai prosblhtikos gia th Dhmokratia.

    ER: Poies qa einai oi proteraiothtes sas se Eyrwpaiko epipedo;

    AP: Oi proteraiothtes mas einai sygkekrimenes. Thn prohgoymenh pentaetia petyxame na kaqysterhsoyme thn entajiakh poreia ths Toyrkias kai na mh doqei sta Skopia to onoma Makedonia. Twra, o prwtos mas stoxos einai na erqei h Eyrwph edw kai na analabei thn eyqynh twn synorwn. Giati na fobomaste na epekteinoyme ta synora mas sta 12 milia , opws problepei to Dikaio ths qalasshs, logw toy casus belli; Prepei na fylaxqoyn ta synora gia na periorisqei h kaqhmerinh eisroh laqrometanastwn. H qesh mas einai h posostwsh. Osoi den mporoyn na aporrofhqoyn prepei na epanaprowqhqoyn. Den mporei h Ellada poy balletai kai prosballetai kaqhmerina na antejei ena tetoio megalo fortio. As pane oi politikoi na meinoyn estw kai mia ebdomada ston Ag. Pantelehmona h sto istoriko kentro ths Aqhnas gia na biwsoyn to problhma. An h Eyrwph peisqei kai analabei th fylajh twn synorwn den qa xreiasqei na dinoyme to megalytero pososto se olh thn Eyrwph stoys ejoplismoys kai meta na ekbiazomaste me epithrhsh kai metra. O stoxos mas einai na baloyme thn Eyrwph anamesa stis apaithseis ths Toyrkias kai tis anagkes ths Elladas.

    ER: Meta tis Eyrwekloges anamenetai na yparjei kinhtikothta kai sto Skopiano kai stis sxeseis mas me thn Toyrkia. Oi dikes sas apoceis poies einai;

    AP: Emeis den qeloyme thn Toyrkia sthn Eyrwph. Xairomai poy h ka Merkel kai o k. Sarkozi melethsan kai oikeiopoihqhkan tis apoceis mas gia thn Toyrkia, dhladh mia eidikh, xalarh sxesh, alla oxi plhrh entajh. An h Toyrkia mpei sthn EE qa exei 99 boyleytes kai emeis 18. Qa pairnei opoia apofash qelei. An h Toyrkia mpei sthn EE, ti qa thn empodisei na epoikhsei ta nhsia toy Aigaioy; Einai kati poy den to antexei h Ellada, kati san ton Polwno ydrayliko sto Parisi. Pws qa mpei sthn E.E mia xwra h opoia mas ypoblepei kai diekperaiwnei sta Ellhnika nhsia laqrometanastes me polemika ths ploia; Eimaste to mono komma poy fwnazoyme kai as to akoysoyn ayto oi akrites mas. H kybernhsh Karamanlh ebale ena kolobo beto gia to proqema oxi gia to onoma Makedonia. Ayto to exei ekxwrhsei. Emeis leme oti ayto to onoma me thn Istoria twn 2.500 xronwn den exei dikaiwma na to ekxwrhsei kaneis. H eggyhsh poy dinei o LAOS einai oti oso eimaste mesa sto Eyrwkoinoboylio kai to Ellhniko Koinoboylio den prokeitai na afhsoyme na perasoyn ta sxedia twn Amerikanwn gia thn perioxh.

    Sygkentrwsh sth Qessalonikh

    O LAOS den prokeitai na epitrecei na doqei sthn PGDM to onoma ths Makedonias h paragwgo toy, tonise o k. Karatzaferhs sthn omilia toy sthn kentrikh proeklogikh sygkentrwsh toy kommatos toy, sth Qessalonikh.

    Gia th N.D. o proedros toy LAOS eipe pws ``an qelei na exei mellon mporei na swqei an erqei mazi mas'' kai shmeiwse pws meta tis eyrwekloges qa yparjoyn politikes ejelijeis sth xwra.

    Sxetika me tis proeklogikes antiparaqeseis anamesa sth N.D. kai to PASOK epishmane oti ekproswpoi twn dyo kommatwn malwnoyn oxi gia to poios eklece perissotera, alla gia to poios eklece kalytera.

    Tonise thn anagkh na syzhthqei to qema twn laqrometanastwn kai parathrhse: ``Den antexoyme dyo ekatommyria metanastes. Edw kai twra na baloyme posostwsh. Na kaqarisoyme ton topo. Na paroyme pisw ta parka mas, tis plateies mas, tis geitonies mas''.

    Eipe akoma oti ``o LAOS den qa epitrecei na ginei h Ellada moysoylmanikh xwra'' kai o idios dexetai na anoijoyn ola ta tzamia sthn Ellada me ton oro oti h Agia Sofia sthn Kwnstantinoypolh qa janaginei naos ths Orqodojias.


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