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Athens News Agency: News in Greek, 09-10-01

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From: The Athens News Agency at <http://www.ana.gr/>

PERIEXOMENA
  • [01] "H nikh einai sta xeria mas"

    [01] "H nikh einai sta xeria mas"

    Thn pepoiqhsh toy oti h Nea Dhmokratia qa kerdisei tis ekloges ejefrase apo th Syro opoy milhse to brady, o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs.

    Epiteqhke sto PASOK kai ston k.Papandreoy legontas oti ``milaei gia otidhpote allo, ektos apo to ti qa kanei sthn oikonomia. To zhthma den einai oi sygxwneyseis Ypoyrgeiwn, opws eipe xqes, opoy allwste den yparxoyn shmantikes diafores''.

    To kentriko erwthma poy ton afora, eipe o prwqypoyrgos, anaferetai sthn megalyterh proklhsh gia thn xwra: Thn antimetwpish ths oikonomikhs krishs. Kai s' ayto -opws eipe- den apanta.

    ``To apofeygei, dioti den exei sxedio, dioti krybei proqeseis. Gi' ayto kai den qelei proswpo me proswpo dialogo. Gi' ayto kai den dinei proswpo me proswpo synenteyjeis sthn thleorash me dhmosiografoys. Apofeygei loipon ta oikonomika qemata. Apofeygei tis erwthseis gia ta qemata ayta, jerontas oti den diaqetei apanthseis'' eipe o k. Karamanlhs.

    O prwqypoyrgos tonise akomh oti o k. Papandreoy den mporei na apanthsei poy qa brei ta 10 dis. twn paroxwn poy tazei, den tolma na dieykrinisei oti oi paroxes aytes qa ektinajoyn to dhmosio xreos kai to elleimma, bazontas thn xwra se megalh peripeteia kai den anoigei ta xartia toy gia toys foroys poy qa balei. ``Mas leei oti qa allajei to forologiko systhma kai den mas leei poio qa einai to systhma ayto. Einai prwtofanes: Sto krisimotero metwpo gia thn xwra, to oikonomiko, o arxhgos toy PASOK, ligo prin ths ekloges, mas leei ena pragma: To apolyto tipota'' eipe o prwqypoyrgos.

    Anaferqhke sthn oikonomikh krish h opoia opws eipe dhmioyrgei ektaktes katastaseis kai apaitei ameses parembaseis kai dyskoles apofaseis, kai tonise oti h alhqeia einai oti ta dyo epomena xronia einai dyskola, alla kai kaqoristika, gia thn poreia toy topoy.

    Opws eipe o Kwstas Karamanlhs, apo tis politikes poy qa efarmostoyn, qa kriqei h ektash, h entash, alla kai h diarkeia ths krishs qa kriqoyn oi antoxes ths oikonomias mas.

    Oi polites, eipe o prwqypoyrgos, dikaioyntai na gnwrizoyn kai prosqese oti apaitoyn apo tis politikes dynameis na poyn kaqara:

    Ti proteinoyn gia na bgoyme apo thn krish.

    Ti sxediazoyn gia na breqei h Ellada, se stereh poreia anaptyjhs.

    Poio einai to pragmatiko toys sxedio.

    ``Oi polites zhtoyn jekaqares apanthseis. Sygkekrimenes. Ejeidikeymenes'' tonise o k.Karamanlhs kai kathgorhse ton arxhgo toy PASOK, legontas oti synexizei na katafeygei se ekqeseis idewn.

    ``Genikologes, aoristes, antifatikes. Anti na dwsei apanthseis, prokalei diarkws nees erwthseis. Kai oso pollaplasiazontai oi erwthseis, toso perissotero apofeygei to dhmosio dialogo. Krybetai'' eipe o prwqypoyrgos, tonizontas oti ayto symbainei giati -opws eipe- den exei apanthseis se osa proteinei kai dioti kati krybei.

    ``Fobatai mhpws piestei na pei gia toys foroys poy sxediazei. Fobatai mhpws anagkastei na diaceysei tis yposxeseis poy moirazei se oloys. Fobatai, giati ayta poy leei den ginontai. Ean ginontan, qa odhgoysan se oikonomika adiejoda. Fobatai, telika, mhpws xreiastei na apanthsei: Poy qa brei 10 dis. poy xreiazontai, opws leei o idios, gia to elleimma; Poy qa brei alla 10 dis. gia tis yposxeseis poy moirazei; Posa qa daneizotan to Kratos; Poy qa eftane to dhmosio xreos; Pws qa mporoyse meta na janadaneistei;'' dierwthqhke o prwqypoyrgos.

    Eipe akomh oti to PASOK sthn prohgoymenh qhteia toy ebale sxedon 100 foroys kai anefere oti ``me toses paroxes poy yposxontai ena einai bebaio. Qa odhghqoyn se dramatikh ayjhsh twn forwn. Kai erwtw: Ti, akribws, sxediazoyn; Giati arnoyntai na poyn otidhpote; Posa nea barh qa pesoyn sta mesaia noikokyria; Poso qa epibarynqoyn oi mikromesaioi epixeirhmaties; Posa qa plhrwnei mia ftwxh oikogeneia, poy pairnei kapoia epidomata;''

    Anaferqhke sta metra poy phre h kybernhsh gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs, kai eipe oti ``thn wra poy kapoioi kindynologoysan, xwris na proteinoyn tipota, h kybernhsh ayth ebaze se efarmogh politikes eyqynhs. Efarmosame stoxeymena metra poy apetrecan dysmenesteres epiptwseis''.

    Ekane ektenh anafora sto kybernhtiko ergo gia tis Kyklades, kai tonise oti oi epiloges stis ekloges einai jekaqares: ``Poios leei thn alhqeia kai poios oxi. Poios exei sxedio apenanti sthn krish kai poios oxi. Poios mporei na odhghsei ton topo me sigoyria kai poios oxi'' eipe o Kwstas Karamanlhs.

    Katelhje legontas oti h stash toy PASOK den afhnei amfibolies: ``To komma poy kybernhse th xwra gia dyo dekaeties den allaje kai oyte allazei. Den mporei na antapokriqei stis proklhseis twn kairwn'' eipe.

    Diakanalikh synenteyjh K. Karamanlh sthn Hlioypolh

    O prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs se diakanalikh synenteyjh poy parexwrhse me th symmetoxh politwn sthn Hlioypolh kai apantwntas stis erwthseis toys tonise oti an den paroyme twra tis swstes apofaseis yparxei kindynos na mpoyme se oikonomikh peripeteia kai argotera na lhfqoyn dysbastaxta kai pio sklhra metra.

    Shmeiwse oti yparxoyn polites poy ta fernoyn pera dyskola, alla h genikh katastash ths oikonomias mas afora oloys.

    "Den einai dynaton na tinajeis ta panta ston aera, na paristaneis oti mporeis na efarmoseis aploxeres politikes", eipe anaferomenos sta osa akoygontai apo to PASOK kai prosqese oti o k. G. Papandreoy apofeygei to dialogo kai tis synenteyjeis proswpo me proswpo.

    Epishmane oti o proedros toy PASOK den eipe tipota gia thn oikonomia kai thn forologikh politikh poy qa efarmosei kai ayto molis tesseris hmeres prin tis ekloges, stis opoies to diakybeyma einai h oikonomia.

    O prwqypoyrgos anefere oti o megalos asqenhs toy kratoys einai o eyryteros dhmosios tomeas kai apedwse apokleistika tis eyqynes sto PASOK. Tonise oti h allh pleyra den exei sxedio kai yposxetai ta panta stoys pantes me plhrh aoristia.

    Anaferomenos se qemata ths paideias ypenqymise to nomo plaisio kai thn allagh sth diatajh gia to asylo. Shmeiwse oti o nomos apedeixqh pws den arkei kai epishmane thn anagkh na pame pio aysthra: "Qa efqana mexri kai thn plhrh katarghsh toy asyloy", eipe sygkekrimena, enw symplhrwse oti prepei na mpoyn kanones wste na mhn kleinoyn to kentro ths polhs ekato anqrwpoi, poy einai bebaio oti einai eleyqeroi na diadhlwsoyn.

    O Kwstas Karamanlhs anaferqhke analytika stis metarryqmiseis poy ylopoihse h kybernhsh toy sta 5,5 xronia poy einai o idios sto timoni ths xwras kai shmeiwse oti otan dras einai bebaio oti den eisai kai alanqastos.

    Eipe oti exei th dynamh ths aytokritikhs kai kalese toys polites na antiparabaloyn th stash ths kybernhshs kai proswpika th dikh toy me th stash toy PASOK, poy, opws eipe, exei kybernhsei gia parapanw apo eikosi xronia kai den exei kanei aytokritikh.

    "Einai toso perhfanoi gia osa ekanan; Den exoyn qarros na poyn poy ekanan kai laqh;" dierwthqhke sth synexeia, shmeiwnontas oti an afeqoyme na mas paei to kyma twn eyxaristwn syntagwn kai paroxwn qa breqoyme mprosta se megalo problhma poy qa skasei stis plates twn politwn.

    Gia to pagwma twn syntajewn eipe oti afora toys ychlomisqoys sto dhmosio, enw gia toys xamhlomisqoys qa ginei o,ti kai to 2009 otan doqhke enisxysh 500 eyrw.

    Prosqese, parallhla oti to PASOK mila gia ayjhsh panw apo ton plhqwrismo, h opoia einai peripoy 100 eyrw to xrono. Gia toys apasxoloymenoys ston idiwtiko tomea eipe oti diepontai apo th Genikh Syllogikh Symbash Ergasias poy exei ypografei kai h kybernhsh ofeilei na sebastei.

    Epishs anaferomenos sto anoigma twn kleistwn epaggelmatwn eipe oti qa exei ws qetikh synepeia thn ayjhsh kata 2% to xrono sto ryqmo anaptyjhs.

    Me aformh tis prosfates pyrkagies rwthqhke kai gia zhthmata poy exoyn sxesh me thn prostasia toy periballontos kai ekane eidikh anafora sto xwrotajiko sxediasmo, kanontas logo gia to megalytero periballontiko ergo ston topo.

    Milhse gia to Kthmatologio, enw gia tis pyrkagies eipe oti ginetai ereyna an kapoioi den ekanan kala th doyleia toys.

    Anefere oti h eykolh isopedwsh olwn kai malista anqrwpwn poy nyxta - mera dinoyn maxes, ton briskei apenanti.

    Eipe xarakthristika oti mporei na jefyge mia fwtia alla prepei na analogistei kaneis pws sbhsthkan alles 3 h 4.000 fwties parallhla.

    Paradexqhke oti ginontai kai laqh kai opoy einai sobara ginetai kai ereyna kai prosqese oti arneitai th logikh na bgainei kapoios sta thleoptika paraqyra kai na paristanei ton pyrosbesth, to seismologo, ton oikonomologo kata peristash.

    Erwthqeis gia ta tekmhria diabiwshs eipe oti den mporei kapoios na exei dyo akinhta skafos, ena aytokinhto gia kaqe melos ths oikogeneias toy kai na dhlwnei 15.000 eyrw eisodhma to xrono.

    Ekane logo gia kata metwpo rhjh me th forodiafygh kai milhse gia thn meiwsh twn forologikwn syntelestwn gia fysika proswpa kai epixeirhseis.

    Anaferomenos sta eqnika qemata dhlwse oti proswpika kamarwnei me thn politikh toy sto qema twn Skopiwn. "Polloi mporei na lene megales koybentes sta mpalkonia. Egw qelw na pas na peis kaqara thn apoch soy se olo to NATO, otan arketoi exoyn kat'arxhn diaforetikh apoch kai to kaneis koinh apofash toy synoloy toy NATO oti einai proypoqesh to qema toy onomatos gia thn poreia twn Skopiwn", eipe sygkekrimena

    Sto qema ths laqrometanasteyshs anaferqhke epishs kai stis prwtoboylies poy exoyn lhfqei kai se eyrwpaiko epipedo.

    Meta apo sxetikh erwthsh eipe oti einai yperbolikh polyteleia h chfos diamartyrias kai afoy shmeiwse oti mporei anqrwpoi na stenaxwrhqhkan, na pikraqhkan, na dysaresthqhkan apo politikes kai proswpa, alla tonise oti den einai wra gia xamenes chfoys.

    "H chfos sto LAOS shmera, einai chfos poy bohqaei to PASOK, ayth einai h alhqeia", eipe.

    Meta apo allh erwthsh diabebaiwse oti den kindyneyoyn oi syntajeis kai einai apolyta eggyhmenes. Enw milhse parallhla gia thn anagkh na synexistei h asfalistikh metarryqmish.

    Erwthqeis gia th forologia twn trapezwn eipe oti qa erqei h wra kai pws oloi exoyme bgalei symperasmata apo ola synebhsan ta teleytaia xronia pagkosmiws.

    Se allo shmeio anefere pws otan akoyei politikoys na lene "qa" eidika se ektaktes synqhkes krishs kai na lene ton eykolo dromo, xwris dyskola metra, o idios diplokoympwnei to sakaki toy. Ypenqymise oti rwthse kai sta ntimpeit ton arxhgo toy PASOK gia thn oikonomia, alla ekeinos den exei pei tipota.

    Erwthqeis an h Amerikh anakateyetai sto poios qa anadeixqei nikhths thn Kyriakh kai an o idios dexetai pieseis eipe oti kamia xwra den piezei oyte anakateyetai sta eswterika ths Elladas.

    "Den me piezei kanenas kai den eimai apo aytoys poy pairnoyn apo pieseis", eipe sygkekrimena, enw sth synexeia rwthqhke kai gia to endexomeno dienergeias eklogwn pali to Martio.

    Afoy ejhghse oti h proqesh toy htan oi ekloges na ginoyn to 2011 milhse gia ekbiasmo apo thn pleyra toy arxhgoy ths Ajiwmatikhs Antipoliteyshs me aformh thn proedrikh eklogh dioti qa eixame ejamhnh proeklogikh periodo. Kati poy o idios qewrei adianohto thn wra ths krishs. "Den paizw mikropolitika paixnidia. Egw na metaxeiristw ton proedro ths Dhmokratias gia kommatikoys logoys oyte to ekana, oyte qa to kanw", eipe sth synexeia kai dhlwse oti einai idiaitera lyphmenos poy se kapoia qemata synanthse thn apolyth aporrich apo thn pleyra toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs.

    Synenteyjh ston ANT1

    Plhrh kalych ston Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs ths ND Leyterh Zagorith gia to qema twn ypochfiwn stis ekloges edwse shmera o prwqypoyrgos Kwstas Karamanlhs se synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse ston ANT1 kai stoys dhmosiografoys Strath Liarelh kai Giwrgo Papadakh.

    Se erwthsh toy dhmosiografoy,"ayto to ''mayriste'',toy k. Zagorith, pws to akoysate;", o k. Karamanlhs apanthse:

    "Ekeino poy eipwqhke kai exei eipwqei apo polloys kai einai kai swsto (einai oti) ean egw, enas chfoforos ths ND gia kapoio logo eimai dysaresthmenos me ton ypochfio boyleyth, nyn h prwhn ypoyrgo h yfypoyrgo, den einai anagkh to plhrwsei h paratajh, th dysareskeia, poy exw. Mporw na dialejw kapoion allon anamesa stoys 30 h 40 alloys ypochfioys poy yparxoyn. Egw katalabainwb¦ Otan eisai xronia sthn kybernhsh kai dysareskeies exeis dhmioyrghsei kai pikries exeis dhmioyrghsei kai se kapoioys kai qymo mporei na exeis prokalesei. Eite apo politikes swstes, alla poy eqijan kapoioys anqrwpoys, eite apo laqh eite apo proswpikes symperifores,bebaiws".

    Sthn synenteyjh toy,o K. Karamanlhs ypogrammise oti to basiko dilhmma twn eklogwn einai anamesa sthn safh, sygkekrimenh kai ypeyqynh protash ths ND gia thn ejodo apo thn krish kai thn asafh, genikologh kai aoristh protash toy PASOK, poy emperiexei kindynoys kai qa ballei thn xwra se peripeteia.

    Tonise akomh oti xreiazontai dyskola, alla anagkaia metra poy den einai eyxarista kai prosqese oti oi genikologes paroxes toy Giwrgoy Papandreoy akoygontai men eyxarista, wstoso qa epiferoyn megalytero kostos kai akomh pio sklhra metra sto mellon.

    Dhlwseis G.Koymoytsakoy

    Epiqesh ston proedro toy PASOK Giwrgo Papandreoy ejapelyse kai shmera o ekproswpos ths ND Giwrgos Koymoytsakos, kathgorwntas ton gia "aoristologia kai megala logia" sth xqesinh toy diakanalikh synenteyjh Typoy.

    Mataia perimename apo ton k. Papandreoy na ginei pio oysiastikos kai sygkekrimenos, eipe o k. Koymoytsakos kai prosqese oti sth xqesinh toy synenteyjh Typoy katefyge pali sthn aoristologia kai ta megala logia kai tis akostologhtes paroxes.

    "Einai prwtognwro ypochfios prwqypoyrgos na mhn mporei na dwsei apanthsh se kairia erwthmata poy apasxoloyn toys polites", eipe o k. Koymoytsakos kai epanelabe ta erwthmata: Ti qa kanei me to asfalistiko; ti qa kanei me to forologiko; poioys qa forologhsei kai poso; ti qa kanei me to panepisthmiako asylo, poia einai h qesh toy gia ta idiwtika panepisthmia, qa epanejetasei symfwnies gia to limani toy Peiraia, ton OTE, thn Olympiakh, ton agwgo Mpoyrgkas - Alejandroypolh; Pote qa epanejetasei tis symfwnies gia ayta poy leei;

    O G. Koymoytsakos eipe oti ta pragmata epeigoyn, oi apofaseis einai krisimes kai prepei na lhfqoyn syntoma kai oti ston G. A. Papandreoy einai entelws apoysa h aisqhsh toy xronoy kai ths apodoshs twn metrwn. Eipe akomh oti anti gia sygkekrimenes apanthseis o k. Papandreoy katafeygei se paroxologia ektos logikhs kai oriwn.

    O ekproswpos synexizontas anefere oti sth xqesinh synenteyjh Typoy toy k. Papandreoy fanhke oti oxi mono den exei programma, alla oyte toys anqrwpoys kai oti qa kalycei tis anagkes me epitropes apo to ejwteriko. "Dieqnhs epitropeia h dieqnhs omilos problhmatismoy;", rwthse.

    Apantwntas, ej alloy, se erwthsh sxetikh me to oti kai o k. Karamanlhs exei pei oti an kerdisei tis ekloges, qa xrhsimopoihsei stelexh apo thn koinwnia, o k. Koymoytsakos eipe oti einai allo na anazhtas stelexh ektos kommatos h kai ektos Koinoboylioy kai allo na ta anazhtas ejw apo thn idia soy th xwra.

    O k. Koymoytsakos epekrine jana ton k. Papandreoy, gia thn apofygh toy na dwsei synenteyjeis sta mesa enhmerwshs. Antiqeta, eipe, o k. Karamanlhs meta th synenteyjh sth Qessalonikh, opoy apanthse se 50 me 60 erwthseis dhmosiografwn edwse eji akomh synenteyjeis se mesa enhmerwshs, eixe dyo syzhthseis me polites, enw apanthse kai se dyskoles kai kairies erwthseis politwn mesw toy diadiktyoy.

    O ekproswpos shmeiwse oti h pio sklhrh synenteyjh einai h proswpo me proswpo me to dhmosiografo opoy yparxei dynatothta ths epanaforas kai pali ths epanaforas sta erwthmata. Tipote den mporei na antikatasthsei thn proswpo me proswpo synenteyjh, anefere xarakthristika.

    Se erwthsh gia to "pws baftizetai diakanalikh synenteyjh mia syzhthsh toy prwqypoyrgoy me toys polites", o k. Koymoytsakos apanthse oti "den exoyme thn idia ermhneia gia th diakanalikh kai prosqese oti den yparxei tipote pio sobaro kai oysiastiko apo mia syzhthsh me toys polites".

    Allwste, einai deytereyon h triteyon poios kanei thn erwthsh, ayto poy exei shmasia einai h erwthsh kaq' eayth kai oi apanthseis poy dinontai, eipe.

    O G. Koymoytsakos epanhlqe sto qema sto opoio exei hdh anaferqei sxetika me to nomarxh Peiraia Giannh Mixa kai sthn amoibh toy apo ta Nayphgeia Skaramagka. O k. Mixas, eipe o k. Koymoytsakos, eixe thn eyaisqhsia kai ta antanaklastika na apanthsei sth dikh mas qesh, h opoia basisthke sto an isxyoyn ta osa anefere dhmosieyma megalhs kyriakatikhs efhmeridas. Den dieceyse, omws, to idio to dhmosieyma, enw kai sthn apanthsh toy kineitai se ena omixlwdes topio. Synexise, ypogrammizontas oti o k. Mixas ameibetai apo thn etairia poy anhkei ej oloklhroy ston idiwtiko tomea. Kai oti kai oi nomoi poy epikaleitai den thn aforoyn, giati aforoyn to dhmosio tomea. Epishs, oi nomoi poy epikaleitai o k. Mixas anaferontai stoys nomarxes kai oxi stoys dhmarxoys. Synexizontas, eipe akomh oti o k. Mixas den dieykrinise an eisprattei ta ejoda parastashs kaqws epishs oti afhnei se asafeia to an yparxoyn kai alloi ajiwmatoyxoi sth nomarxia poy ameibontai.

    Epeidh o k. Mixas eixe anaferqei sto dhmarxo Aqhnaiwn k. Kaklamanh kai sto nomarxh Messhnias k. Drako, o k. Koymoytsakos anefere oti o men k. Kaklamanhs eixe dwsei ws dwrea gia thn agora iatrikoy mhxanhmatos thn amoibh apo th syntajh toy, enw o k. Drakos eixe paraithqei eggrafws apo to 1998 apo thn amoibh toy.

    O k. Koymoytsakos eipe oti qa dexotan eyxaristws thn anqodesmh poy toy esteile o k. Mixas kai qa antapedide an den synodeyotan apo mia karta poy epibebaiwnei "thn antilhch rebansismoy poy ton diapneei".

    Kai katelhje legontas oti se kaqe periptwsh o k. Mixas elegxetai gia to bradyfleges ths apanthshs toy.


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