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The Hellenic Radio (ERA): News in Greek, 12-10-03

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From: The Hellenic Radio (ERA) <www.ert.gr/>

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  • [01] G. Koytroymanhs: Sklhro to metro ths ayjhshs toy orioy hlikias syntajiodothshs
  • [02] R. Doyroy: Tiqetai ena sobaro zhthma gia thn dhmokratia kai ton koinoboyleytismo
  • [03] Q. Margariths: ``Einai pragmatika o ejeytelismos toy politikoy systhmatos''
  • [04] N. Panagiwtopoylos: Meiwsh katwtatoy misqoy den prokeitai na ginei
  • [05] Ston eisaggelea o G. Smpwkos- Poinikes diwjeis gia ta opla
  • [06] B. Kikilias, D. Tsoykalas kai N. Tsoykalhs gia tis epimaxes listes
  • [07] Ayjanontai oi dwrhtes organwn- Panw apo 1000 sth lista anamonhs

    [01] G. Koytroymanhs: Sklhro to metro ths ayjhshs toy orioy hlikias syntajiodothshs

    Thn anagkh na elegxontai to taxytero dynato ypoqeseis, opws ayth me th lista Lagkarnt, kai na mh menoyn skies, ypogrammise milwntas sth NET FM o boyleyths toy PASOK, Giwrgos Koytroymanhs. Epipleon, yposthrije oti h ayjhsh toy orioy hlikias syntajiodothshs einai ena sklhro metro, poy den qa apodwsei ayta poy pisteyei to oikonomiko epiteleio kai poy prepei na efarmostei stadiaka.

    Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh kai ton Basilh Mpeskenh.

    Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

    GIA LISTA LAGKARNT

    G. KOYTROYMANHS: ``Ayto poy exei shmasia, perissoterh apo otidhpote allo, einai oti ayta prepei na elegxontai to taxytero dynato kai na mh menoyne skies, giati otan leme mia lista, poy h mia periexei politika proswpa, h allh periexei diafora proswpa, ta opoia den gnwrizei kanenas, otan periferontai tetoia pragmata, den bohqoyn sto na yparjei lysh sto megalo problhma poy yparxei''.

    DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Apo ta cd ayta, ta opoia promhqeythkan ki alles xwres, oi xwres aytes apokomisan kai shmantika ofelh. O tropos me ton opoio maqainoyme oti diakinhqhke ayth h istoria, nomizw dhmioyrgei ena megalytero problhma sthn ajiopistia toy politikoy systhmatos, h opoia hdh einai poly labwmenh''.

    G. KOYTROYMANHS: ``Nai, kai nomizw oti o kaqenas apo thn pleyra toy prepei na kanei otidhpote gia na mhn yparxoyn skies. Apo ekei kai meta, den shmainei oti ta idia h paromoia stoixeia doqhkan se oles tis xwres''.

    G. KOYTROYMANHS: ``Den jerw akribws ti exei zhthsei o kyrios Tomsen apo to oikonomiko epiteleio ths kybernhshs. Alla ekeino poy jerw, me bash thn empeiria moy, einai oti den endiaferei thn troika ean meiwqei h syntajh twn agrotwn h an meiwqoyn me analogiko tropo oi syntajeis, arkei na bgainei to poso''.

    GIA AYJHSH ORIOY HLIKIAS SYNTAJIODOTHSHS

    G. KOYTROYMANHS: ``Nomizw oti efoson epelegh ws metro, pisteyw oti den qa apodwsei ayta poy pisteyei to oikonomiko epiteleio. Pisteyw oti einai sklhro to metro ths ayjhshs toy orioy hlikias syntajiodothshs, idiaitera apo ta 65 sta 67, alla se kaqe periptwsh prepei na ginei stadiaka, giati alimono ean oi anqrwpoi, oi opoioi exoyn qemeliwsei dikaiwma, h qemeliwnoyn se 5-6 mhnes, ypostoyn th synepeia ths ayjhshs toy orioy hlikias kai paroyn th syntajh meta apo 2-3 xronia''.

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    [02] R. Doyroy: Tiqetai ena sobaro zhthma gia thn dhmokratia kai ton koinoboyleytismo

    An enas arxhgos kommatos kratoyse onomata me epixeirhmaties oi opoioi forodiafeygoyn, tiqetai ena zhthma poly sobaro gia thn ellhnikh dhmokratia kai ton koinoboyleytismo, tonise milwntas sth NET FM h boyleyths toy SYRIZA, Rena Doyroy.

    Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Sta mesa kai sta ejw'' me ton Giannh Pantelakh kai ton Basilh Mpeskenh.

    Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

    R. DOYROY: ``To teleytaio poy mphke se ayto to shrial, se ayth th sapoynopera, me ypoyrgoys, opws einai o kyrios Papakwnstantinoy kai o kyrios Benizelos, poy breqhkan me listes, alla tis krathsan, genna kai ena erwthma. Kaname dyo eklogikes maxes, me arxhgo kommatos poy kratoyse listes onomatwn. Katalabainete oti tiqetai ena zhthma, to opoio einai pera apo hqiko, oti an enas arxhgos kommatos poy kratoyse onomata me epixeirhmaties, oi opoioi forodiafeygoyn, einai para poly sobaro gia thn idia thn ellhnikh dhmokratia kai ton koinoboyleytismo''.

    R. DOYROY: ``Sas lew, oson afora ta mesa, oti fainetai san na exoyn, ki edw yparxei skopimothta, kollhsei mia proeklogikh logodosia, opoy me ta ceytodillhmata ``poio einai antieyrwpaiko komma kai poio den einai'', den jerw an sto telos ths hmeras mporei na kerdisoyn 1 h 2% sthn epomenh dhmoskophsh, jerw oti ayth th stigmh h xwra den exei thn polyteleia na exei kollhsei sthn proeklogikh logodosia me tetoia ceydepigrafa dillhmata. Sas lew, loipon, oti o SYRIZA einai ena komma, to opoio den einai apla filoeyrwpaiko, einai baqytata eyrwpaiko, kai akoma kai sto 4% ton Oktwbrio toy 2009, hmastan oi prwtoi poy eixame pei oti peran apo tis eggeneis adynamies ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, ayth h krish einai eyrwpaikh, einai systhmika eyrwpaikh, kai ws tetoia prepei na th doyme kai kataqetame, kai synexizoyme na kataqetoyme, sygkekrimenes protaseis se eyrwpaiko epipedo''.

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    [03] Q. Margariths: ``Einai pragmatika o ejeytelismos toy politikoy systhmatos''

    Gia ejeytelismo toy politikoy systhmatos ekane logo sth NET FM o Qeodwros Margariths, anaferomenos sthn ypoqesh me th lista Lagkarnt, ypogrammizontas oti prepei na apodoqoyn eyqynes. To melos ths Ektelestikhs Grammateias ths DHMAR anefere oti to komma toy qa prospaqhsei na exei mia metriopaqh stash sta zhthmata ths oikonomias, wstoso, opws epishmane, sta zhthmata ths diafqoras toy politikoy systhmatos kai toy kratoys qa apotelei mia akraia dynamh. Epipleon, yposthrije oti eginan prospaqeies na sygkalyfqoyn ychla onomata, ta opoia briskontai ston epixeirhmatiko xwro, piqanws kai sthn politikh, kai ektimhse pws syntoma qa diapistwsoyme oti aytoi poy ta ebgalan ta xrhmata toys ejw, den qa einai mono apo tis isxyres tajeis ths xwras, eite sthn politikh, eite sthn koinwnia, alla kai apo tis mikromesaies kathgories sympolitwn mas.

    Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai Aporrhto'' me ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

    Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

    GIA LISTA LAGKARNT KAI DIAFQORA

    Q. MARGARITHS: ``Einai pragmatika o ejeytelismos toy politikoy systhmatos. H DHMAR sto diasthma poy pername qa prospaqhsei na exei mia metriopaqh stash sta zhthmata ths oikonomias, poy einai ejairetika dyskola, alla sta zhthmata ths diafqoras toy politikoy systhmatos kai toy kratoys qa einai mia dynamh akraia, qa elega aristeristikh, gia na to pw xaritwmena. Ayto ofeiletai sto gegonos oti o kosmos jerei poly kala oti gia ta zhthmata ths oikonomias yparxei eyqynh olwn mas kai prepei oloi mazi na baloyme plates, sta zhthmata, omws, ths diafqoras toy politikoy systhmatos kai toy kratoys den einai ta pragmata apla. Einai ta pragmata sygkekrimena kai prepei, en pash periptwsei, na apodoqoyn eyqynes. H DHMAR se ayto to qema exei deijei mia megalh taxythta, se synepeia aytoy poy sas lew oti qa eimaste ejairetika aysthroi. To qema ths listas twn 32 politikwn apo to SDOE jekinhse me erwthsh toy Nikoy Tsoykalh. Deyteron, jekaqarisame oti emeis qeloyme na cajoyme ta pragmata, oso cila ki an einai. Triton, bghka kai eixa pei ki egw oti an o kyrios Meimarakhs qelei na brei to dikio toy, na to brei me enan allon tropo kai oxi me ayton, me ton opoion to diekdikei, me bash ton politeiako qesmo, kai na dieykolynei, paraitoymenos kai apo Proedros ths Boylhs. Tetarton, epanhlqe xqes o kyrios Tsoykalhs kai eqese jana to zhthma oti akoma kai me th lista Lagkarnt, akoma kai proion ypoklophs na einai, ofeiloyn oi elegktikoi mhxanismoi, opws ginetai se oles tis xwres ths Eyrwphs, na kinhqoyn eite se symfwnia, eite se aysthrh antimetwpish, me oloys osoys ebgalan ta xrhmata toys paranomws kai na ejoikonomhsei xrhmata to ellhniko kratos. Kai pempton, o kyrios Roypakiwths, Ypoyrgos poy sthrizetai kai protaqhke apo th DHMAR, exei kanei safes oti syntoma qa ferei ryqmiseis nomoqetikes, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistoyn ta zhthmata ths ejygianshs toy politikoy systhmatos kai toy poqen esxes''.

    DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Yparxei, omws, mia ejhghsh. Ayto einai katanohto poy lete, ws pros th stash ths DHMAR, giati egine olo ayto, poy kaneis den hjere ''thn exw egw, thn paradidw ston allon''''.

    Q. MARGARITHS: ``Egw nomizw yparxei mia ejairetika eykolh apanthsh, dystyxws eykolh. Profanws, yparxoyn ychla onomata, ta opoia briskontai kyriws ston epixeirhmatiko xwro, piqanws kai sthn politikh, kai epomenws eginan oles oi prospaqeies na sygkalyfqoyn. Allh ejhghsh den yparxei, opws, epishs, einai profanes oti sthn prospaqeia na anazhthsoyme polloys Ellhnes poy ebgalan ta lefta toys ejw, syntoma qa diapistwsoyme oti aytoi poy ta ebgalan ta xrhmata toys ejw, merikoi paranomws kai alloi ligotero, de qa einai mono apo tis isxyres tajeis ths xwras, eite sthn politikh, eite sthn koinwnia, alla kai apo tis mikromesaies kathgories sympolitwn mas''.

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    [04] N. Panagiwtopoylos: Meiwsh katwtatoy misqoy den prokeitai na ginei

    Den prokeitai na ginei meiwsh toy katwtatoy misqoy, toylaxiston gia ta epomena dyo xronia, jekaqarise milwntas sth NET FM o yfypoyrgos Ergasias, Nikos Panagiwtopoylos, wstoso, epishmane oti exoyme ypoxrewsh apo th daneiakh symbash na qespisoyme enan mhxanismo prosdiorismoy enos eniaioy katwtatoy misqoy, o opoios otan prosdioristei, qa nomoqethqei apo thn kybernhsh.

    Synenteyjh sthn ekpomph ``Akrws Radiofwniko kai Aporrhto'' me ton Panagiwth Tsoytsia.

    Akoloyqei apospasma ths synenteyjhs:

    N. PANAGIWTOPOYLOS: ``Den yparxei eykolh synanthsh me thn troika. Oi anqrwpoi erxontai, bazoyn sto trapezi diafora zhthmata, epi twn opoiwn yparxei mia grapth desmeysh apo thn Ellada, h opoia, en pash periptwsei, metaferetai twra se emas, se aytes edw tis diapragmateyseis''.

    DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Ayth h grapth desmeysh, einai twn prohgoymenwn kybernhsewn'';

    N. PANAGIWTOPOYLOS: ``Nai, einai twn prohgoymenwn kybernhsewn, alla opws kai na to kanoyme, eite einai eite den einai prohgoymenwn, ayth th stigmh erxetai se emas gia na doyme pws ta antimetwpizoyme. Einai ypoxrewseis mas aytes''.

    DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Aytes oi ypoxrewseis exoyn efarmostei'';

    N. PANAGIWTOPOYLOS: ``Kapoies apo aytes exoyn efarmostei, kapoies alles oxi. Kapoies qa elega oti perigrafontai se ena poly asafes kai geniko perigramma, paradeigma, h eyelijia sthn agora ergasias. Katw apo to geniko titlo ``eyelijia sthn agora ergasias'', opws katalabainete, mporeis na syzhthseis ta panta. Den einai akribws etsi, omws. H meiwsh toy mh misqologikoy kostoys ergasias kata 5% einai pio safhs ypoxrewsh apo th daneiakh symbash. Ki ekei exoyme sygkekrimena pragmata na poyme. Omws, to kefalaio eyelijia einai ena kefalaio sto opoio syzhta ta panta''.

    N. PANAGIWTOPOYLOS: ``To mono zhthma poy epese sto trapezi gia ton katwtato misqo einai o epanaprosdiorismos, h dhmioyrgia, dhladh, enos neoy tropoy prosdiorismoy toy. Mexri twra, o katwtatos misqos prosdiorizotan apo tis eqnikes syllogikes diapragmateyseis metajy ergodotwn kai ergazomenwn, mesw twn koinwnikwn etairwn. Pali ypoxrewsh apo th daneiakh symbash einai h qespish enos mhxanismoy prosdiorismoy enos eniaioy katwtatoy misqoy. Kai otan lew eniaios, milame mono gia ton katwtato misqo. Jeroyme oti h prwth mas ypoxrewsh htan na meiwsoyme ton katwtato misqo, na meiwqei o katwtatos misqos, me symfwnia twn etairwn, kai na paei sta 20% katw, 22% gia thn akribeia, sta 586 eyrw, kai arketa pio katw kai gia toys neoeiserxomenoys sthn agora ergasias. Ayto den qigetai. Den yparxei, dhladh, qema meiwshs toy katwtatoy misqoy, gia na to jekaqarizw, giati ayth einai h prwth basikh anhsyxia. Meiwsh katwtatoy misqoy den prokeitai na ginei, toylaxiston oso diarkei to mesoproqesmo, mexri alla dyo xronia. Omws, prepei na proxwrhsoyme se ena neo tropo epanakaqorismoy toy, kai ayto to systhma prepei an to exoyme sygkekrimenopoihsei me sygkekrimeno plegma protasewn ws pros ton mhxanismo. Qa yparxei enas mhxanismos, emeis qeloyme na einai kai oi koinwnikoi etairoi mesa se ayto to mhxanismo, endexomenws kai kapoia eidika organa poy mporoyn na kanoyn tis metrhseis kai na epejergastoyn toys ariqmoys, kyriws oson afora to kostologio ths ergasias. Den jerw an qa emplejoyme panepisthmiakoys foreis, akadhmaikoys foreis h eidikoys episthmonikoys foreis. Ston tropo ayto ypologismoy qeloyme mesa kai toys koinwnikoys etairoys, giati xwris aytoys den mporei na ginei. Se kaqe periptwsh, qa milame gia enan neo mhxanismo prosdiorismoy toy katwtatoy misqoy, o opoios otan prosdioristei, qa nomoqethqei apo thn kybernhsh''.

    DHMOSIOGRAFOS: ``Yphrxan dhlwseis politikwn, kai apo to PASOK, oti Ellhnes epixeirhmaties qetoyn zhthmata mesw ths troikas. Exete diapistwsei eseis kati tetoio'';

    N. PANAGIWTOPOYLOS: ``Gia na eimai se qesh na to diapistwsw qa eprepe na ekana to ntetektib, kai pragmatika den mporw na to kanw. Yparxoyn fhmes poy kykloforoyne. Ta qemata, opwsdhpote, exoyn na kanoyn me th ryqmish ths agoras ergasias. Kapoia qemata, ta opoia einai para poly eidika kai para poly sygkekrimena, pragmatika emena moy gennatai h aporia pws prokyptoyn sta ypocin twn eyrwpaiwn elegktwn. Einai poly ejezhthmena gia na apoteloyn kentrikes metarryqmiseis, zwtikes gia to mellon ths xwras h gia th synexish ths xrhmatodothshs ths, opws prokyptei apo tis symfwnies me toys etairoys mas. Einai poly ejeidikeymena gia na parapempoyn se kati tetoio. Epomenws, opwsdhpote yparxoyn fhmes kai yparxei edafos gia na kalliergoyntai aytes oi fhmes''.

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    [05] Ston eisaggelea o G. Smpwkos- Poinikes diwjeis gia ta opla

    Ston eisaggelea odhghqhke prin apo ligo o prwhn gg toy YPEQA Giannhs Smpwkos, synodeia isxyrhs astynomikhs dynamhs alla xwris xeiropedes, prokeimenoy na ektelestei to entalma syllhchs poy ekdoqhke se baros toy gia jeplyma brwmikoy xrhmatos. En tw metajy, anamenetai na askhqei poinikh diwjh enantion toy k. Smpwkoy kai gia ta opla poy breqhkan spiti toy.

    O prwhn stenos synergaths toy A. Tsoxatzopoyloy synelhfqh xqes, meta apo entalma toy me tis kathgories ths nomimopoihshs esodwn apo egklhmatikh drasthriothta apo koinoy, kat' ejakoloyqhsh kai kat' epaggelma. O k. Smpwkos eprokeito na apologhqei thn Paraskeyh, alla kriqhke ws ypoptos fyghs.

    Symfwna me to kathgorhthrio, o allote stenos synergaths kai yfistamenos toy Akh Tsoxatzopoyloy anhkei sthn kentrikh omada poy diakinoyse kai apekrybe terastia xrhmatika posa poy apoteloysan ``wfelhmata'' apo thn promhqeia twn ypobryxiwn kai twn TOR M1.

    Poinikh diwjh anamenetai na askhqei enantion toy k. Smpwkoy kai gia ta opla poy breqhkan kata tis ereynes ths astynomias toso sto spiti toy sthn Khfisia oso kai sto grafeio toy stoys Ampelokhpoys. Sygkekrimena oi astynomikoi entopisan fakeloi me eggrafa poy enswmatwqhkan sth dikografia kai diabibasthkan ston anakrith, ypologistes, dyo opla kai 50 fysiggia. Symfwna me plhrofories, o Giannh Smpwkos den eixe adeia kykloforias gia to ena oplo, enw gia to deytero h adeia elhje to 2011 kai den ananewqhke. H astynomia synexizei tis ereynes gia ton entopismo kai tritoy oploy, to opoio piqanon exei sthn katoxh toy o Giannhs Smpwkos. Oi ypologistes kai ta usb metaferqhkan sth Dieyqynsh Egklhmatologikwn Ereynwn gia peraiterw ejetash.

    Sxetikes eidhseis:

    Ston eisaggelea shmera o G. Smpwkos

    Syllhch toy prwhn genikoy grammatea ejoplismwn, G. Smpwkoy

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    [06] B. Kikilias, D. Tsoykalas kai N. Tsoykalhs gia tis epimaxes listes

    Sxoliazontas eyrytera tis ejelijeis, o B. Kikilias xarakthrise adianohto na diarreontai onomata a priori kai elafra thn kardia kai na spilwnontai syneidhseis. Ta pragmata, prosqese, prepei na trejoyn grhgora giati o kosmos exei megalh anagkh na gnwrizei poioi einai aytoi poy exoyn kataxrastei dhmosio xrhma.

    Zhthse epishs na yparjei cyxraimia, enw parathrhse oti o k. Stasinopoylos den mporei na eyqynetai gia ola osa symbainoyn.

    Ypogrammise epishs oti otan exei qelhsei h Dikaiosynh, mporei na brei ta panta.

    Erwthqeis giati th mh xrhsimopoihsh ths listas epeidh htan proion ypoklophs, o D. Tsoykalas sxoliase oti kai gia toys Italoys kai gia toys Galloys htan proion ypoklophs alla xrhsimopoihsan ta stoixeia kai epanelabe to aithma toy SYRIZA na paei h lista sthn epitroph qesmwn kai diafaneias ths Boylhs.

    O tropos diaxeirishs ayths ths listas kai twn prohgoymenwn deixnei poios einai o pragmatikoys yponomeyths toy politikoy systhmatos, parathrhse apo thn pleyra toy o Nikos Tsoykalhs, koinoboyleytikos ekproswpos ths DHMAR.

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    [07] Ayjanontai oi dwrhtes organwn- Panw apo 1000 sth lista anamonhs

    H Katerina Tsantoy, h opoia elabe mosxeyma kardias prin apo treis mhnes dhlwse sth NET: ``Twra aisqanomai oti exw enan anqrwpo dipla moy, den eimai pote monh moy''.

    O Giwrgos Kyriakopoylos, o opoios dwrise ta organa toy gioy toy tonise ``ayto poy agapame se enan anqrwpo einai h cyxh toy. Tipota allo den exei shmasia. Apo th stigmh poy feygei h cyxh, to swma den exei kamia shmasia''.

    Apo thn pleyra toy, o Anastasios Xatzhs proedros Eqnikoy Organismoy Metamosxeysewn dieceyse osa legontai peri emporio organwn sthn Ellada, ypogrammizontas oti ``ayta einai sta oria ths episthmonikhs fantasias''.

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