BRIEFING 9-1-96

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 09/01/96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. THLEMAXO XYTHRH

BAREMENOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Pottakhs, xqes, sth Boylh, eipe oti den yparxei xroniko orio gia thn anaplhrwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Eipe malista oti to xroniko orio mporei na einai kai ejamhno. O k. Benizelos, omws, diatypwse antiqeth apoch...

XYTHRHS: Prepei na sas pw, epeidh akoygontai diafora sta radiothleoptika mesa peri "dixasmoy" h peri "dixognwmiwn" stoys kolpoys ths kybernhtikhs paratajhs, oti kaneis "dixasmos" kai kammia "dixognwmia" den yparxei. Opws gnwrizete, to qema ths anaplhrwshs toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei af'enos men thn syntagmatikh toy diastash, af'eteroy de thn politikh toy diastash. Kai aytes oi diastaseis, kata th syzhthsh sth Boylh epi ths protasews dyspistias ths Neas Dhmokratias, einai fysiko na proballontai. O men k. Pottakhs aneptyje th syntagmatikh diastash toy qematos, o de k. Benizelos thn politikh diastash. En pash periptwsei, sas parapempw stis omilies poy ginontai shmera sth Boylh kai oi opoies qa synexisqoyn ayrio. Allh erwthsh;

BAREMENOS: Eseis symmerizesqe thn apoch poy diatypwse xqes o k. Pottakhs;

XYTHRHS: To qema den einai an egw thn symmerizomai h oxi. Prokeitai gia to Syntagma, gia tis ermhneies poy didontai epi syntagmatikwn diatajewn. H syntagmatikh diastash toy qematos sas einai gnwsth. Th gnwrizoyme oloi mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Metajy twn dyo Ypoyrgwn, den diapistwnete diastash;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den yparxei kaneis dixasmos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den milhsa gia "dixasmo". Sas rwthsa ean yparxei diastash apocewn.

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei diastash apocewn. Poios sas eipe gia diastash apocewn; O men k. Pottakhs anaferqhke sth syntagmatikh diastash toy qematos, o de k. Benizelos sthn politikh toy diastash.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn dhlwseis toy Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn k. Papoylia - o opoios einai kai melos toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy - kai oi opoies einai diametrika antiqetes kai me thn apofash toy organoy toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Eseis ti exete na mas peite gi'ayto; Kai epishs, na mas peite an o k. Papoylias me tis xqesines toy dhlwseis anaferotan sta syntagmatika h sta politika.

XYTHRHS: Egw den exw na kanw kammia ermhneia twn dhlwsewn toy k. Papoylia. Monon o idios mporei na apanthsei sthn erwthsh sas. Kai fantazomai oti qa erwthqei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Eseis symmerizesqe ayto poy eipe o k. Papoylias, oti dhladh zwntos toy k. Papandreoy den mporoyn na jekinhsoyn oi diadikasies; Eseis, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, symmerizesqe ayto to sygkekrimeno;

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy exoyme pei kai to gnwrizete - kai einai kai orqon kai prepon kai kalon - einai na yparjoyn oi opoies diadikasies, h opoia poreia me th symmetoxh kai thn apoch toy Proedroy Andrea Papandreoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, an katalaba kala tis xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Papoylia, o k. Papoylias den anaferqhke kaqoloy s'ayto. O k. Papoylias qewrhse ws dedomeno to gegonos oti yparxontos, zwntos toy Andrea Papandreoy, den mporei na jekinhsei kammia diadikasia diadoxhs. Sas ypenqymizw oti o k. Papoylias ektos apo melos ths Kybernhshs, einai kai melos toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai me tis xqesines dhlwseis toy ekfrazei mia diametrika antiqeth apoch apo thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

XYTHRHS: Egw den kanw kammia ermhneia twn dhlwsewn toy k. Papoylia. Monon o idios mporei na probei se ermhneia twn dhlwsewn toy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, poia qesh pairnete apenanti aytwn twn dhlwsewn enos koryfaioy stelexoys ths Kybernhshs;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa: Den kanw kammia ermhneia. Ayto poy mporw na epanalabw - kai sas to eipa kai xqes - einai oti yparxei mia apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Tis dhlwseis toy k. Papoylia tis entassete sthn syntagmatikh h sthn politikh diastash toy qematos;

XYTHRHS: Den probainw se kammia ermhneia. Allh erwthsh;

MIXAHL: Gnwrizete an o Prwqypoyrgos - ap' oso mporeite na to gnwrizete - einai pikramenos gia ola osa exoyn arxisei na dromologoyntai gia th diadoxh toy;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den gnwrizw.

MIXAHL: Tote, pws dikaiologeite dhlwsh ths kyrias Lianh (poy dierreyse kai den diaceysqh- ke), oti o Prwqypoyrgos exei pikraqei kai oti biasthkan poly osoi kinoyn tis diadikasies;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw. Allh erwthsh;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ta diaceydete ayta ths kyrias Lianh;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos, mporeite na enhmerwqeite kai na mas peite an pragmati exoyn ginei ayta ta pragmata;

XYTHRHS: Ma, moy lete gia diarroes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prokeitai gia synomilies ths kyrias Lianh me atoma poy thn episkefqhkan.

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw tetoies dhlwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mporeite na rwthsete thn kyria Lianh kai na mas peite;

XYTHRHS: Oriste, o k. Filhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati, kyrie Ypoyrge, den moy apantate;

FILHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, apanthste prwta sto synadelfo kai meta qa sas rwthsw.

XYTHRHS: Ma, den gnwrizw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, mporeite na rwthsete ws Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos;

XYTHRHS: Den mporw na rwthsw gia diarroes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, einai Dieyqyntria toy Idiaiteroy Grafeioy toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy.

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa hdh: Den mporw na rwthsw gia diarroes. An arxisoyme na rwtame kai gia diarroes kai pws to ena kai pws to allo, tote...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ma, den einai diarroh, einai synomilia.

XYTHRHS: Den exw ypoch moy kammia tetoia epishmh synomilia, kammia synenteyjh, opoy na eipwqhkan ayta.

FILHS: H Kybernhsh den anhsyxei oti me bash tis diagrafomenes ejelijeis mporei na yparjei kapoio adiejodo;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den qa yparjei kanena adiejodo.

MOYRTZHS: Qewreite oti to Ektelestiko Grafeio me thn apofash poy phre - th gnwsth apofash - efere pro tetelesmenwn ton Proedro;

XYTHRHS: Den qewrw tipote. Ayto poy sas eipa, einai oti yparxei h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai sas parapempw s'aythn.

KIAOS: Qewreite oti mporei to xroniko diasthma, to xroniko orio ths 20hs Ianoyarioy mporei na parataqei, na metateqei dhladh peran ths 20hs Ianoyarioy, na pame - as poyme - stis 25 Ianoyarioy en pash periptwsei, na paei dhladh pio pisw;

XYTHRHS: Parapempw sthn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai menw ekei.

MOYRTZHS: Na epanelqw sthn erwthsh moy;

XYTHRHS: Na epanelqete.

MOYRTZHS: Synepws, apodokimazete th dhlwsh ths kyrias Lianh...

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw.

MOYRTZHS: ... oti (parakalw na oloklhrwsw) fernei pro tetelesmenwn ton Proedro to Ektelestiko Grafeio. Thn apodokimazete nai h oxi;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw kammia dhlwsh. Epomenws, den sxoliazw kammia dhlwsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den ta leme emeis, kyrie Ypoyrge. H kyria Lianh ta eipe.

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw kammia tetoia dhlwsh kai epomenws den sxoliazw kammia tetoia dhlwsh.

MIXAHL: Eipate oti den yparxei kammia diastash apocewn metajy toy k. Benizeloy kai toy k. Pottakh. Se allo qema - eipate - anaferqhke o enas, se allo qema anaferqhke o allos. Symmerizesqe thn ektimhsh oti kapoioi qewroymenoi (ton bazw mesa se eisagwgika ton oro, dioti jerw oti sas enoxlei) "proedrikoi" den qeloyn na perpathsei to xronodiagrama poy periegrace to Ektelestiko Grafeio;

XYTHRHS: Kat' arxhn, na me peite "proedriko", den me enoxlei.

MIXAHL: Oxi, den to lew gia sas. To lew giati polloi sthn Kybernhsh...

XYTHRHS: Me thn ennoia poy didete kai me th diastash poy didete.

MIXAHL: ... den qeloyn na ginei to xronodiagramma poy periegrace sthn anakoinwsh toy to Ektelestiko Grafeio. Grafetai ws ektimhsh shmera stis efhmerides. Ep' aytoy: to sxoliazete kai ti lete;

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy yparxei, einai prwton, h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Kai deyteron, h elpida kai h prospaqeia na doqei h dynatothta ston Prwqypoyrgo na pei th gnwmh toy kai thn apoch toy gia tis ejelijeis. Kai ayto - epanalambanw - einai kai swsto kai prepon. Oriste, o k. Gargalakos.

GARGALAKOS: Ep'aytoy, kyrie Xythrh: Epeidh, afoy ekporeyontai mallon apoceis, opws aytes ths paratashs twn ejelijewn, dhladh an zhthsei o Prwqypoyrgos ena xroniko diasthma prokeimenoy na parei apofash h an orisei antiproedroys k.lp. Ayta ta senaria, efoson o Prwqypoyrgos den einai se qesh na ta diatypwsei, apo poy ekporeyontai;

XYTHRHS: Ti me rwtate;

GARGALAKOS: Dhladh, poioi ta grafoyn ayta ta senaria, kyrie Xythrh...

XYTHRHS: Dhmosiografoi.

GARGALAKOS: ... efoson o Prwqypoyrgos... Den mporei na ta grafoyn oi dhmosiografoi apo monoi toys, apo kapoy ta akoyne. Kai egw ta exw akoysei. Gi'ayto lew: Poioi diamorfwnoyn ayta ta senaria kai poy aposkopoyn ayta ta senaria, telos pantwn;

XYTHRHS: Katalaba ti moy lete. Den mporw na dwsw apanthsh se mia tetoia erwthsh. Ayto poy mporw na pw, einai oti h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy milaei gia sygklhsh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs stis 20 Ianoyarioy. Swsto; Swsto. Ekei, loipon, qa ejetasqoyn ola. Dhladh, qa ejetasqei h pragmatikothta poy qa yparxei. Ayto den leei h apofash; Stis 20 Ianoyarioy yparxei h sygklhsh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs. Sta opoia erwthmata poy qa yparxoyn tote, asfalws qa dwsei apanthsh h Kentrikh Epitroph. Parakalw, o k. Kiaos.

KIAOS: Eipate prohgoymenws (ektos apo thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy) oti elpida kai prospaqeia einai na doqei h dynatothta ston Prwqypoyrgo na pei thn apoch toy gia tis ejelijeis. Dhladh, menete mono sthn ekfrash ths apocews, sth diatypwsh ths apocews, opoia kai an einai h apaiteitai kai symfwnia me thn ypodeijh ths opoias lysews ek meroys ths antiproswpeias poy qa episkefqei ton Prwqypoyrgo; Praktika qelw na pw dhladh: Leei o Prwqypoyrgos thn apoch toy kai einai ayto poy qa ginei;

XYTHRHS: Koitajte, o Prwqypoyrgos den einai opoios Prwqypoyrgos, einai o idryths toy kommatos mas, einai o Andreas Papandreoy. Kai epomenws, einai aparaithto gia mas - kai epanalambanw kai swsto - na exoyme thn apoch toy gia tis ejelijeis. Ayto elpizoyme kai epidiwkoyme na ginei.

KIAOS: Pera ap'ayto, h apoch toy Andrea Papandreoy...

XYTHRHS: Me rwtate an h apoch toy Andrea Papandreoy exei barynoysa shmasia;

KIAOS: An einai kaqoristikh.

XYTHRHS: To na emmenoyme na zhthsoyme kai na exoyme thn apoch toy Andrea Papandreoy, ayto ta leei ola.

KIAOS: Me afhsate me to erwthmatiko.

XYTHRHS: Den peirazei!

BAREMENOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ep'aytoy toy sygkekrimenoy: An dhladh h elpida h dikh sas einai na synainesei o Prwqypoyrgos na paraithqei h h elpida h dikh sas einai aplws na ekfrasei o Prwqypoyrgos genikws thn apoch toy; Sas erwtw loipon an kai eseis elpizete - giati milhsate peri elpidas - na synainesei o Prwqypoyrgos na paraithqei.

XYTHRHS: Epimenw - kai elpizoyme ontws - sto na exoyme thn apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy ep'aytoy poy qa toy ekqesoyn ta melh kai ta stelexh toy kommatos kai ths Kybernhshs poy qa ton episkefqoyn. Epanalambanw: na exoyme thn apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy s'ayto poy qa toy ekqesoyn.

BAREMENOS: Elpizete na einai kai qetikh h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h antapokrish toy na einai katafatikh; To elpizete ayto;

XYTHRHS: Egw menw sthn elpida na mporesoyme na exoyme thn apoch toy Andrea Papandreoy gia tis ejelijeis. Kai tis ejelijeis aytes qa tis anaptyjoyn kai qa tis ekqesoyn ston Andrea Papandreoy ta stelexh toy kommatos kai ths Kybernhshs poy qa ton episkefqoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy qa einai desmeytikh gia thn Kybernhsh kai to komma;

XYTHRHS: Sas parapempw sthn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai sthn sygklhsh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exete pei treis fores oti "elpizoyme na doqei h dynatothta ston Prwqypoyrgo...". Apo ti ejartatai ayth h dynatothta;

XYTHRHS: Apo thn poreia ths ygeias toy.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, polla stelexh qewroyn logiko to na arneitai na paraithqei o Prwqypoyrgos. Symfwneite m'ayth th qesh;

XYTHRHS: Den sxoliazw.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ean pane ola kat'eyxhn, h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy perilambanei Antiproedro, anaplhrwth Prwqypoyrgo h oristiko Prwqypoyrgo; Mporeite na mas to peite;

XYTHRHS: Oxi alles ypoqetikes erwthseis.

PAPADOPOYLOS: Mas milhsate gia thn elpida na ekfrasei o Prwqypoyrgos th gnwmh toy k.lp. Einai aplws elpida h kai aparaithth proypoqesh; Ean den katastei dynaton na ekfrasei o Prwqypoyrgos th gnwmh toy, qa proxwrhsoyn oytws h allws oi diadikasies;

XYTHRHS: Afhste na perasoyn oi meres...

PAPADOPOYLOS: Ma, se deka meres...

XYTHRHS: ... kai na yparxei h elpida mas. An den katastei dynaton, qa doyme.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Otan lete na doqei h dynatothta, ennoeite na mporei o Prwqypoyrgos na kanei syzhthsh; Mporeite na mas peite ti ennoeite me th lejh "dynatothta";

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa kai prin. Ejartatai apolytws apo thn poreia ths ygeias toy, h opoia kai beltiwnetai, opws einai gnwsto. Epomenws, pisteyoyme kai elpizoyme oti qa doqei ayth h dynatoths.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Elpizete na mporesei na pei thn apoch toy epeidh einai o Andreas Papandreoy h epeidh isws otan pei thn apoch toy, na doqei mia lysh poy den einai orath shmera;

XYTHRHS: Einai aparaithto gia mas na exoyme thn apoch toy Proedroy mas, toy Andrea Papandreoy.

FILHS: O k. Skandalidhs milwntas ek meroys toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, thn Kyriakh, eipe oti den prepei kai den blepei na yparjei lysh orismoy antiproedroy. Htan mia kathgorhmatikh, aporriptikh dhlwsh toy k. Skandalidh. To qema den afora bebaia mono to komma, alla kai thn Kybernhsh. Qa hqela mia qesh ep' aytoy.

XYTHRHS: H qesh einai oti den sxoliazw ton k. Skandalidh, Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy kommatos. Parapempw aplws sthn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy Kinhmatos.

FILHS: Epikaleisqe omws tis apofaseis toy...

XYTHRHS: Thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy.

FILHS: To Ektelestiko Grafeio exei parei apofash na mhn orisqoyn antiproedroi;

XYTHRHS: Sas parapempw sthn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. To Ektelestiko Grafeio einai kommatiko syllogiko organo kai epomenws se ayto sas parapempw.

SOYGLERHS: Pws sxoliazete ton k. Papoylia poy eipe "gia poia synedriash milate 20 kai 21 Ianoyarioy afoy h ygeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy beltiwnetai"; XYTHRHS Sas eipa oti den kanw ermhneia ths dhlwshs toy k. Papoylia.

ELENOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish: Eipate prin oti stis 20 kai 21 toy mhnos, opote kai qa sygklhqei h Kentrikh Epitroph toy kommatos, tote qa apanthqoyn ola ta erwthmata.

XYTHRHS: Qa yparjoyn, an yparxoyn tote kapoia erwthmata, qa apanthqoyn ekei.

ELENOPOYLOS: Den oloklhrwsa thn erwthsh moy. Ej oswn gnwrizoyme apo to reportaz, o k. Skandalidhs exei desmeyqei oti amesws meta qa sygklhqei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai qa dwsei thn oristikh lysh. Sth dhlwsh poy anefere o k. Filhs apekleise kai to qema toy antiproedroy. Ara mporoyme na milame (den akoygetai). Pisteyete oti yparxei endexomeno na anatrapoyn me nea dedomena aytes oi ejelijeis;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Prin ekfrasei o Prwqypoyrgos thn apoch toy, thn opoia perimenete opws eidame me polles elpides, qewreite kai eseis oti "opoios biazetai kanei kako ston eayto toy kai sto PASOK"; Einai dhlwsh thn opoia ekane xqes o k. Papoylias.

XYTHRHS: Epanalambanw oti ayto to opoio epidiwketai, einai na exoyme thn apoch toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Kai kanena allo sxolio den kanw gia dhlwseis kanenos.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Prin ekfrasei o Prwqypoyrgos thn apoch toy, osoi loipon miloyn gia diadikasies h gia tis oristikes lyseis - erwtw eyqews ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo - qewreite oti biazontai kai kanoyn kako ston eayto toys kai sto PASOK; Ep' aytoy einai aplh h apanthsh. Eseis ws Kybernhsh ti pisteyete; Biazontai h den biazontai;

XYTHRHS: Den sxoliazw dhlwseis.

ZERBONIKOLAKHS: Oi dhlwseis aytes, opws toy k. Papoylia kai alles, den einai rwgmes sthn Kybernhsh kai sto komma; Ef' oson einai diaforetikes kai apo thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy gia to ti prokeitai na ginei.

XYTHRHS: To komma einai enwmeno kai h Kybernhsh leitoyrgei kai leitoyrgei swsta. Kai h Koinoboyleytikh Omada einai enwmenh kai qa to deite ayto, kai to blepete kaqhmerina kai sth Boylh. Sthn prajh qa to deite.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kaqhmerina to blepoyme...

XYTHRHS: Qa to deite epishs me thn eykairia ths protashs dyspistias ths N.D.

GARGALAKOS: Legetai kyrie Ypoyrge, oti den qa epitrapei se antiproswpeia twn diatetagmenwn organwn toy PASOK na enhmerwsei ton Andrea Papandreoy, alla se atoma h se stelexh ths Kybernhshs h toy kommatos kata monas. Exete apoch pws qa ginei ayth h enhmerwsh;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den gnwrizw. Exei logo pantws gia thn enhmerwsh kai o idios o Proedros mas.

MPERMPERAKHS: Qelw na epanelqw se mia erwthsh ths prohgoymenhs ebdomados giati mesolabhsan kai neotera dhmosieymata. Ejetazetai to endexomeno na metabei o Prwqypoyrgos stis HPA;

XYTHRHS: Den yparxei kati tetoio ap' o,ti gnwrizw. Mexri twra toylaxiston.

MOYRTZHS: Na epanelqw se mia erwthsh synadelfoy: H apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy dia stomatos toy k. Skandalidh htan gia oristiko Prwqypoyrgo kai oxi gia antiproedro. Sas rwthse prohgoymenws o synadelfos ean anatrapoyn ta dedomena kai eipate "den gnwrizw an qa anatrapoyn ta dedomena". Giati afhnete na aiwreitai ayth h prooptikh;

XYTHRHS: Den afhnw kammia prooptikh. Eipa oti emmenw sthn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy. Se ypoqetikes erwthseis den mporw na apanthsw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gnwrizete ti ennoei h apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy, thn opoia epikaleisqe, otan leei "oristikh lysh";

XYTHRHS: "Oristikh lysh";

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Epikaleisqe thn apofash toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy...

XYTHRHS: Bebaiws.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gnwrizete ti ennoei otan leei "oristikh lysh" mesa sto Genarh;

XYTHRHS: Omalh poreia.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Me dedomeno oti h ygeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy beltiwnetai, opws lete, mporeite na mas prosdiorisete kai xronika, pote qa doqei h dynatothta ston Prwqypoyrgo na pei tis apoceis toy; Apomenoyn deka hmeres gia th synedriash ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs.

XYTHRHS: Den mporw na sas apanthsw...

KANELLOPYLOS: Giati kyrie Ypoyrge; Einai mikro to xroniko diasthma.

XYTHRHS: Den mporw na sas apanthsw. Sas eipa oti elpizoyme sto diasthma ayto na doqei ayth h dynatoths.

KOYIN: Eipate prin "dynatothta". Ennoeite swmatikh dynatothta h pneymatikh; Giati ayth th stigmh milaei o Prwqypoyrgos.

XYTHRHS: Eipa "dynatothta" me thn ennoia oti ejartatai apo thn poreia gia thn opoia oi giatroi kai mono mporoyn na apanthsoyn. Oson afora sth dynatothta poy anaferqhkate, sth diaygeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ayth yparxei kata dhlwsh olwn twn iatrwn kai olwn twn allwn poy exoyn synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo.

BAREMENOS: Na sas parakalesw kati: Epeidh den mporoyme na paizoyme "kryftoyli", opws eipate kai eseis, gia to ti dhlwnei kaqe fora h ka Lianh h ti mporei na synomilei me to periballon ths, qa sas parakaloysa na th rwthsete kai na mas apanthsete ayrio, an h ka Lianh exei opoiodhpote endiaferon na parameinei Prwqypoyrgos o k. Papandreoy h an endiaferetai mono gia thn apokatastash ths ygeias toy kai gia tipote allo.

XYTHRHS: Den mporw na ginw mesolabhths synenteyjewn ths kas Lianh - Papandreoy. Den qa ypokatasthsw toys dhmosiografoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei kybernhtikh qesh pantws...

XYTHRHS: Allh erwthsh;

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh den mas prosdiorizete xronika pote mporei...

XYTHRHS: Den mporw, den dynamai egw.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Wraia. Qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Endexomenws o Prwqypoyrgos na exei th dynatothta ayrio, meqayrio, me dedomeno panta th beltiwsh ths ygeias toy opws mas lete...

XYTHRHS: To eyxomai.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kai to eyxomaste oloi anamfibola. Kai me dedomeno epishs oti prosfata o Prwqypoyrgos eixe mia synomilia me ton k. Arsenh, h opoia htan epi sobarwn qematwn toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, sthn periptwsh poy o Prwqypoyrgos exei th dynatothta, endexomenws ayrio h meqayrio, tis epomenes hmeres, exei apofasisqei poioi qa sygkrotoyn thn antiproswpeia ekeinh h opoia qa paei na toy qesei to problhma;

XYTHRHS: Ayto einai qema toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den afora thn Kybernhsh, kyrie Ypoyrge; Thn Kybernhsh den thn afora;

XYTHRHS: Einai qema toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Den einai mono toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai toy kommatos, einai kai ths Kybernhshs ejisoy qema.

XYTHRHS: Sas apanthsa.

KIAOS: Mas eipate oti einai qema toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Dhladh qa erwthqei prohgoymenws o Prwqypoyrgos kai qa apanthsei oti qa erqei o A, o B k.lp;

XYTHRHS: Den qa poyn ston Prwqypoyrgo oti qa sas episkefqei...; En agnoia toy qa ginei mia episkech;

KIAOS: Dhladh, gia th diadikasia rwtaw, oxi tipote allo...

XYTHRHS: Profanws.

KIAOS: An katalaba kala, na epanalabw dhladh: Prohgeitai mia prosynennohsh, as thn poyme, metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai kapoioy, den gnwrizw poioy. Poy qa pei (den akoygetai).

XYTHRHS: Otan qa ginoyn ola ayta, qa ta maqete.

KIAOS: Ta eipate prohgoymenws.

XYTHRHS: Den qa anaferqei ston Prwqypoyrgo oti qa ton episkefqoyn kapoioi;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn epilogh qa thn kanei o Prwqypoyrgos;

XYTHRHS: Den qa anaferqei ston Prwqypoyrgo oti qa ton episkefqoyn kapoioi;

FILHS: Epeidh exete episkefqei ton Prwqypoyrgo kai qa exete mia eikona fantazomai, radiofwno yparxei mesa sto dwmatio toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

XYTHRHS: Den gnwrizw.

FILHS: Thleorash;

XYTHRHS: Oxi.

SOYRMELH: Na sas rwthsw dyo pragmata: Ti apedwse h ereyna poy kanate xqes...;

XYTHRHS: Apanthsa oti yparxei leptomerhs anakoinwsh toy Ypoyrgeioy Dhmosias Tajhs.

SOYRMELH: Kai kati allo. Poios qa ekproswphsei thn Kybernhsh, thn Ellada sthn epimnhmosynh dehsh poy qa ginei sto Parisi thn Pempth;

XYTHRHS: Yparxei epafh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs me to Parisi kai molis kaqorisqei poia qa einai h antiproswpeia, qa sas to anakoinwsw.

ELENOPOYLOS: Se allo qema.Gia toys 120 pyrayloys poy egkaqistantai sthn Toyrkia kai qa blepoyn pros pasa kateyqynsh. H eidhsh einai shmerinh, toylaxiston shmera thn maqame edw sthn Ellada. Toylaxiston ap' o,ti anaferei to Praktoreio poy thn metedwse, qa blepoyn pros Iran k.lp. Kai mporei na yparxei dynatothta na blepoyn pros Ellada, pros Nagkorno Karampax, pros Koyrdoys k.lp. Exete enhmerwsh ep' aytoy;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den exw. Na exete ypoch sas omws, na eisqe sigoyros oti qa ginoyn ta deonta apo thn ellhnikh pleyra gi' ayto to qema.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Nomiza oti eixe ginei diabhma.

XYTHRHS: O synadelfos sas moy leei gia kati kainoyrgio.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Prin apo 20 hmeres ekane dhlwseis o k. Klhridhs...

XYTHRHS: An einai ayto poy lete, prin apo 20 hmeres, bebaiws kai exei ginei. An einai kati kainoyrgio, opws to paroysiazei o k. Elenopoylos...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exei ginei diabhma;

XYTHRHS: Opws exoyme pei, kai apo th meria toy k. Klhridh sthn Kypro egine kai h ellhnikh pleyra ejefrase epishs thn apoch ths.

KIAOS: Se poion egine to diabhma;

XYTHRHS: Den eipa "peri diabhmatos".

KIAOS: Ma, etsi akoysthke.

XYTHRHS: Eipa: an einai gia to palaio qema twn pyraylwn, exei ginei o,ti exoyme pei sto briefing.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den exoyme pei tipota edw.

XYTHRHS: Tote qa synennohqw me ta Ypoyrgeia Ejwterikwn kai Eqnikhs Amynas kai qa sas pw.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Epeidh o Prwqypoyrgos teleytaia milaei kai exei synomilies - edeije endiaferon opws eipate sth synanthsh toy me ton k. Arsenh gia qemata eqnikhs amynas - eseis poy eisqe enas apo aytoys poy blepoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo, exei pote o Prwqypoyrgos deijei endiaferon gia ta politika tektainomena sth xwra; Oxi na toy exoyn syzhthsei kati tetoio, o idios na exei deijei endiaferon gia tis eswterikes politikes ejelijeis.

XYTHRHS: Otan ginei h anamenomenh synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, tote qa sas ekteqoyn ola. Kai asfalws kai oi apoceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish: O k. Arsenhs mas eipe proxqes kai eseis eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos edeije endiaferon akomh kai gia thn ptwsh toy toyrkikoy aeroskafoys. Endiaferon gia tis politikes ejelijeis sth xwra mas, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos, exei deijei;

XYTHRHS: Epanalambanw oti h syzhthsh qa ginei otan to epitrecoyn oi giatroi kai qa sas ginoyn gnwstes oi apoceis toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Sas eyxaristw.