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Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-08-24

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 24 Aygoystoy 1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas. Kalws hrqate. Elpizw na perasate kala. Eyxomai na exete dynameis enocei toy xeimwna kai ths neas politikhs periodoy poy anoigei. Qa xreiastoyn dynameis se oloys mas.

Qa moy epitrecete twra na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy twn epomenwn hmerwn. Kanw mia staxyologhsh:

* Shmera, meta to meshmeri, stis 14.00, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dei ton k. Skandalidh.

* Thn Tetarth to prwi qa exei synomilies me ton Prwqypoyrgo ths filhs xwras Boylgarias k. Kostwf, o opoios episkeptetai thn patrida mas. Prokeitai gia monohmerh anepishmh episkech. Qa akoloyqhsoyn dhlwseis meta th syzhthsh twn dyo Prwqypoyrgwn. Thn Tetarth to brady, sto Megaro Majimoy, o Prwqypoyrgos paraqetei dejiwsh pros timhn twn eparxiakwn Meswn Enhmerwshs kai sygkekrimena twn hmerhsiwn efhmeridwn poy ekdidontai sthn ellhnikh Perifereia kai twn ypeyqynwn twn thleoptikwn staqmwn ths ellhnikhs Perifereias. Akoloyqei thn epomenh ebdomada h ej anabolhs dejiwsh pros timhn twn Meswn Enhmerwshs kai twn Leitoyrgwn twn Meswn sthn Aqhna, twn eqnikhs embeleias Meswn.

* Gnwrizete oti ayth thn ebdomada qa episkefqei thn Ellada o k. Klhridhs, o opoios qa brisketai apo thn Tetarth sthn Aqhna. Thn Pempth, stis 12.30, qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Qa ginoyn syzhthseis gia to eqniko qema ths Kyproy. To apogeyma qa synedriasei to E. G. me antikeimeno syzhthshs afenos ton programmatismo drashs enocei twn nomarxiakwn kai dhmotikwn eklogwn kai afeteroy enocei toy Synedrioy, mia kai qa lhfqoyn apofaseis, prokeimenoy na arxisei h prosynedriakh diadikasia.

* Thn Paraskeyh, sto Megaro Majimoy qa synedriasoyn apo koinoy h Kybernhtikh Epitroph kai h Politikh Grammateia, me antikeimeno syzhthshs ton programmatismo twn Organwn, enocei ths neas politikhs periodoy.

Ayto se poly genikes grammes einai to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy gi ayth thn ebdomada.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto poy eipate "enocei ths neas politikhs periodoy", ti ennoeite;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete panta oti meta tis diakopes toy kalokairioy, apo to Septembrh, mporoyme na poyme oti mpainoyme se mia nea periodo. Nomizw oti ayto einai safes kai to dexeste oloi. Me th Dieqnh Ekqesh Qessalonikhs, arxizei mia nea politikh periodos, h opoia oloklhrwnetai peripoy ton Ioylio kaqe etoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sth syskech ths Pempths, poy anaferate, metajy toy k. Shmith kai toy k. Klhridh, mporeite na mas peite poioi alloi qa paroyn meros;

REPPAS: H hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Einai dimerhs synanthsh metajy twn ekproswpwn twn Kybernhsewn twn dyo kratwn.

MIXAHL: Qa hqela na moy kanete ena sxolio, epishmws ws Kybernhsh, gia th drasthriothta twn teleytaiwn ebdomadwn, dhladh, tis sxetikes dhlwseis poy exei kanei o Arxiepiskopos k. Xristodoylos.

REPPAS: Exoyme kat' epanalhch syzhthsei gia ta qemata ayta. Exoyme diatypwsei sxolia kai apoceis. Paramenoyme se ayta. Den exei allajei tipota. Einai safhs h qesh ths Kybernhshs gia to pws antilambanetai th sxesh ths Politeias me thn Ekklhsia. Pisteyoyme oti sto plaisio mias armonikhs synergasias qa prepei na kinoyntai oi foreis ths Politeias kai ths Ekklhsias.

MIXAHL: Eseis anagnwrizete ston k. Xristodoylo na qewrei ton eayto toy, symfwna me tis dhlwseis toy, ws "alejikerayno" ths koinwnias;

REPPAS: Kaqe poliths ayths ths xwras, h opoia einai dhmokratikh xwra, eynomoymenh xwra, exei to dikaiwma toy aytoprosdiorismoy.

MIXAHL: Kai kati akomh. O k. Xristodoylos epimenei oti se o, ti qewrei o idios pws yparxei h anagkh na milaei kai na ekfrazei apoceis, kata thn ektimhsh toy kai apo o, ti ejhghse o idios apo thn pleyra ths ekklhsias, qa to kanei. H Kybernhsh mexri poioy baqmoy qewrei oti mporei na ginei kati tetoio; Mporeite na mas prosdiorisete to orio toy dhladh;

REPPAS: Oloi oi polites diaqetoyn to agaqo ths eleyqerias ths gnwmhs toys. H sxesh twn politwn me thn ejoysia, h sxesh twn forewn metajy toys sto plaisio ths syntetagmenhs ellhnikhs Politeias problepetai apo to Syntagma kai toys nomoys. Kai h orioqethsh ayth einai poly safhs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati h Kybernhsh kaqe fora enoxleitai apo tis dhlwseis toy k. Xristodoyloy;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den enoxleitai. Antiqetws, Exei thn eykairia o ellhnikos laos na gnwrizei tis apoceis epi diaforwn qematwn ekproswpwn forewn. Oi apoceis aytes einai xrhsimes, poly perissotero, otan anaferontai se krisima qemata. Den prepei, omws, na anatrepoyn mia isorropia poy yparxei, symfwna me ta osa problepei to Syntagma kai oi nomoi toy kratoys. Kai h isorropia ayth, metajy twn allwn, problepei sygkekrimenoys roloys gia ta organa ths politikhs ejoysias kai gia ta organa ths ejoysias. Kai den prepei na yparxei sygxysh rolwn kai armodiothtwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, kaqe fora poy kanei dhlwseis o Arxiepiskopos, kai o k. Giannopoylos h kai eseis proxqes -th deyterh fora- kai o k. Benizelos kanate kritikh stis dhlwseis toy Arxiepiskopoy. Pws den enoxleitai h Kybernhsh; Giati kanete dhlwseis;

REPPAS: Kanw mia parathrhsh: Miloyme epi deka lepta. Oles oi erwthseis oi opoies exoyn teqei mexri ayth thn wra, aforoyn dhlwseis toy Makariotatoy Arxiepiskopoy. An den qetete eseis opoiadhpote erwthsh, den qa eixate kai kapoia apanthsh apo thn pleyra moy. Eseis qetete ta qemata kai zhtate na ta sxoliasoyme. Ara, eseis eiste aytoi oi opoioi synthreite to qema, den eimaste emeis poy me prwtoboylia mas analambanoyme na diatypwsoyme epikritikes epishmanseis h sxoliasmoys epi twn qesewn toy Arxiepiskopoy. Eseis, loipon, qetete to qema kai exete th dikh mas topoqethsh, h opoia einai safhs kai poly logikh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prin kanoyme emeis tis erwthseis, exete kanei eseis tis dhlwseis omws.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle exete kapoia erwthsh na kanete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas thn eipa thn erwthsh, giati apantate kaqe fora poy kanei dhlwseis o Arxiepiskopos, giati enoxleiste;

REPPAS: Phrate apanthsh. Den yparxei opoiasdhpote morfhs enoxlhsh. Antiqetws.

MIXAHL: O k. Xristodoylos exei kanei dhlwseis, tis opoies oloi tis parakoloyqoyme kai tis katagrafoyme kai o ellhnikos laos tis akoyei. Wstoso, kybernhtika stelexh apanthsan. Sas ypenqymizw oti o k. Giannopoylos eixe pei "as bgalei ta rasa" kai o k. Benizelos ekane o idios dhlwseis. Ara, to klima den to synthroyme emeis. Ekrine h Kybernhsh oti eprepe na apanthsei. Kalws. Mh mas katalogizete, loipon, oti emeis synthroyme ena qema gia to opoio h Kybernhsh ekrine oti eprepe.

REPPAS: Eipate oti aytoboylws apanthsa. Aytomatws dexeste oti apanthsa se kapoia erwthsh. An den yphrxe erwthsh, den qa yphrxe kai apanthsh. To oti apanthsan se erwthsh, poy toys teqhke, asfalws shmainei oti apanthsan me th dikh toys qelhsh kai den toys ypoxrewse kaneis. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti anelaban thn prwtoboylia oi idioi, monoi toys na diatypwsoyn kapoies qeseis. Alla, bebaiws, otan briskesai apenanti se ena erwthma, eisai ypoxrewmenos na peis th dikh soy apoch.

KARAGIANNH: Epeidh kanate mia genikh anafora gia ta qemata twn armodiothtwn, opws orizontai apo to Syntagma kai milhsate gia to plaisio metajy Politeias kai Ekklhsias, h erwthsh moy einai an h Kybernhsh qewrei oti me ton enan h ton allo tropo dhlwseis h drasthriothtes toy Arxiepiskopoy yperbainoyn ayta ta oria toy plaisioy, poy eseis eipate oti orizontai apo to Syntagma kai telos pantwn yperbainoyn, ekfeygoyn twn armodiothtwn ths ekklhsias.

REPPAS: Den exei prokycei tetoio qema.

BLAXOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio sas gia to shmerino dhmosieyma twn "NEWN", an exoyn lhfqei metra gia tromokratikes epiqeseis, metra prostasias twn amerikanikwn stoxwn k. lp.

REPPAS: Pantote oi armodies Yphresies kai oi Dynameis Asfaleias kai Tajhs briskontai se epagrypnhsh kai etoimothta, otan to epibaloyn oi peristaseis. Kai gnwrizete oti eimaste se mia periodo tetoia, poy epiballetai na eimaste se akraia, as moy epitrapei ayth h ekfrash, epagrypnhsh prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyme kaqe endexomeno.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, se liges wres, se dyo wres peripoy, anoigontai oi prosfores gia thn pwlhsh ths Ionikhs Trapezas. H Kybernhsh exei na kanei kapoio sxolio h kapoia eyxh;

REPPAS: Pwlhths einai h Emporikh Trapeza. Pisteyoyme oti h Kybernhsh me thn oikonomikh politikh ths exei dhmioyrghsei ena plaisio oikonomikhs staqerothtas, to opoio eggyatai qetikes ejelijeis gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Qa anamenoyme ki emeis, gia to sygkekrimeno qema, poies apofaseis qa labei h Emporikh Trapeza kai qa sxoliasoyme thn ejelijh ayth. Sas enhmerwnw oti o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Papantwnioy qa probei se dhlwseis, efoson oloklhrwqei h synedriash toy D. S. ths Emporikhs Trapezas, nwris to apogeyma, gyrw stis 5 h wra.

FILHS: H diatajh poy apeilhse oti qa kataqesei o k. Giannopoylos gia ton periorismo ths eleyqerias toy logoy sta MME, telikws pote qa katateqei;

REPPAS: O k. Giannopoylos einai o teleytaios o opoios epiqymei periorismo ths eleyqerias toy logoy sta MME. O k. Giannopoylos ekane mia logikh epishmansh, h opoia parejhghqhke se megalo baqmo. Opws sta entypa MME den epitrepetai h dhmosieysh anwnymwn h ybristikwn epistolwn, etsi kai sta hlektronika MME, den qa prepei na filojenoyntai sxolia h kritikes epishmanseis, otan den einai gnwsto to onoma aytwn oi opoioi tis diatypwnoyn. Den mporei, se radiofwnikoys staqmoys, idiaiterws, to fainomeno to opoio parathreitai se megalh ektash, thn teleytaia periodo, na synexistei. Ginetai anafora se anwnymoys sympolites mas, poy den jeroyme kan an yparxoyn, prokeimenoy sto stoma toys na "filojenhqoyn" ekfraseis enantion allwn sympolitwn, oi opoies kaqe allo para mporei na pei kaneis oti einai kosmies kai alles se megalo baqmo einai ybristikes kai sykofantikes. Qa prepei na gnwrizoyme poios einai aytos, o opoios diatypwnei mia gnwmh. Ayto einai to qema to opoio eteqh. Bebaiws, exoyme pei kat', epanalhch, oti sto plaisio ths aytoryqmishs oi idioi oi leitoyrgoi twn MME qa prepei na throyn th deoysa deontologia, prokeimenoy na apofeygontai tetoia fainomena. Dystyxws, h pragmatikothta -kai ayto mas lypei oloys- deixnei pws tetoia fainomena anqoyn. Qa prepei na antimetwpistoyn. Einai ena qema, to opoio apasxolei thn Kybernhsh. Pisteyoyme pws oloi anejarthtws ths idiothtas toys, dexontai kai symfwnoyn pws tetoia qemata prepei na antimetwpizontai me bash to yfistameno plaisio afenos, afeteroy, omws, me analhch, ston ypertato baqmo, ths eyqynhs twn idiwn twn leitoyrgwn twn MME, gia na apofeygoyme tetoies ejelijeis.

FILHS: H erwthsh htan safhs. Moy apanthsate diejodikws gia allo qema. H erwthsh einai pote qa kataqesei o k. Giannopoylos th sygkekrimenh diatypwsh diatajhs toy Poinikoy Kwdika poy eipe oti qa kataqesei;

REPPAS: Sas apanthsa. Afoy den sas eipa pote, den yparxei sygkekrimeno xroniko plaisio. Sas eipa oti apasxolei thn Kybernhsh genikws ayto to qema kai ekana mia genikoterh anafora sto problhma to opoio dhmioyrghqhke.

FILHS: Eipate "me bash tis yfistamenes diatajeis". Ayto shmainei oti den yparxei anagkh diatypwshs newn diatajewn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti to qema ayto apasxolei thn Kybernhsh.

FILHS: Eixate enhmerwqei ws Ypoyrgos Typoy gi ayth thn prwtoboylia toy k. Giannopoyloy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti o armodios gia thn epibolh poinikwn kyrwsewn einai o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs. Bebaiws, ola ayta ta qemata syzhtoyntai sto plaisio twn kybernhtikwn organwn metajy synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn. Thn prwtoboylia, omws, gia kaqe qema thn exei o kat' ejoxhn armodios ypoyrgos.

FILHS: Mporei na analabei thn prwtoboylia ayth o k. Giannopoylos...

REPPAS: O k. Giannopoylos diatypwse mia idea, mia protash, h opoia, epanalambanw, parejhghqhke se megalo baqmo, epeidh akribws den egine katanohto to periexomeno ths prwtoboylias ayths.

FILHS: Prin anakoinwsei thn idea toy o k. Giannopoylos, eixe enhmerwsei kapoio kybernhtiko organo h esas ws synarmodio ypoyrgo;

REPPAS: O k. Giannopoylos anelabe thn prwtoboylia. Meta thn analhch apo meroys toy ayths ths prwtoboylias, to qema apasxolei thn Kybernhsh. Ayto einai safes.

SOYRMELH: Ap' oti katalabainw epibebaiwnete to dhmosieyma twn NEWN.

REPPAS: Pantote se kapoies periodoys poy xreiazetai, eimaste se etoimothta kai epagrypnhsh. Oi armodies yphresies, oi dynameis ths Asfaleias kai Tajhs, asfalws, einai etoimes na antimetwpisoyn kaqe endexomeno.

SOYRMELH: Nai, alla einai sygkekrimeno to dhmosieyma, leei oti elhfqhsan metra, oti hdh exoyn fygei dyo Marokinoi oi opoioi parakoloyqoynto. Leei polla pragmata ayto. To dhmosieyma to epibebaiwnete;

REPPAS: Gia na einai apotelesmatikh h prospaqeia poy kanoyn oi armodies Arxes, gnwrizete poly kala, oti epiballetai, se megalo baqmo, h olh drasthriothta h oi prwtoboylies poy analambanoyn, na paramenoyn ektos twn fwtwn ths dhmosiothtas, prokeimenoy na epityxoyn toys stoxoys toys.

MPOYRDARAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qewreite oti gia thn eikona toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths Kybernhshs einai epikoinwniaka orqo na emfanizetai o k. Shmiths se diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis, fwtografies opws gia paradeigma ws prwto bioli poy eidame se kyriakatikes efhmerides.

REPPAS: H Dieqnhs Ekqesh Qessalonikhs einai mia aytonomh anwnymh etaireia h opoia leitoyrgei -prepei na leitoyrgei- kai me krithria idiwtikooikonomika. Oi kataxwrhseis aytes anaferontai, metajy twn allwn, sta qemata poy aforoyn thn Oikonomikh kai Nomismatikh Enwsh h thn poreia ths xwras mas ta epomena xronia. Pisteyoyme oti prepei panta na staqmizoyme ta yper kai ta kata, otan briskomaste mprosta se tetoies epiloges. Qa prepei me kalopisto tropo, me qetiko tropo na anadeiknyoyme ta qemata mas kai na xrhsimopoioyme kai proswpa ta opoia briskontai sthn epikairothta h exoyn ychla ajiwmata opws kai o Prwqypoyrgos. Ayto den shmainei omws oti qa prepei na xrhsimopoioyntai skitsa h fwtografies twn dhmosiwn proswpwn gia kaqe skopo kai gia opoiodhpote logo. Prepei na ginetai mia lelogismenh xrhsh h opoia, epanalambanw kai pali, qa prepei na ypakoyei se kapoioys kanones deontologias kai gi' ayto kai se kapoioys periorismoys.

KANELLAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sth Nikaia ths Gallias synelhfqh enas Toyrkos onomati Tsaktzi o opoios kathgoreitai oti exei sxesh me tromokratikes drasthriothtes me toys "Gkrizoys Lykoys" kai me drasthriothtes se ellhnikes perioxes se epoxes malista poy ekdhlwqhkan pyrkagies. Exete kamia plhroforhsh ep' aytoy.

REPPAS: Gnwrizoyme ayto to qema. Parakoloyqoyme thn ejelijh toy edw kai arketes hmeres. Pragmati synelhfqh enas Toyrkos katazhtoymenos apo thn INTERPOL apo Toyrkoys kai Galloys ajiwmatikoys. Krateitai apo tis gallikes arxes kai qa dikastei. Feretai na exei sxesh me thn organwsh "Gkrizoi Lykoi". Feretai na htan sto gnwsto qema Soysoyrloyk kai aytos anamemeigmenos. Gia th syllhch ayth exoyn kanei dhlwseis oi politikoi hgetes ths Toyrkias. Exei ginei gnwsto oti o syllhfqeis anefere oti gia mia periodo to 1997 htan sthn Ellada. Parakoloyqoyme pws ejelissontai oi ereynes, oi anakriseis poy kanoyn oi gallikes arxes. Ola ayta ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyme sth diaqesh mas qa ajiologhqoyn prokeimenoy na bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas gia tis sxeseis poy exei o sygkekrimenos Toyrkos poliths me gegonota h fainomena ta opoia elaban xwra sthn patrida mas thn prohgoymenh periodo. Parakoloyqoyme to qema.

KANELLAKHS: H epimonh ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs na ekdoqei sthn Toyrkia exei kapoio nohma, kapoia shmasia;

REPPAS: Den qelw na apanthsw eyqews sthn erwthsh sas. Qa apanthsw kanontas mia anafora twn ejhs stoixeiwn gia dikh sas enhmerwsh: Otan synelhfqh, o Prwqypoyrgos ths Toyrkias k. Gilmaz anefere pws einai gnhsia h sfragida poy exei sto diabathrio toy kai exei teqei apo to Toyrkiko Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, enw o ekproswpos toy Toyrkikoy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn zhthse na exei sth diaqesh toy h armodia yphresia kapoies hmeres, ena logiko xroniko diasthma, prokeimenoy na oloklhrwsei tis ereynes ths gia na diapistwsei an einai gnhsia ta eggrafa ta opoia efere o syllhfqeis. Ekane dhlwseis o k. Ntemirel. Ekane dhlwseis h ka Tsiler h opoia epeteqh sthn kybernhsh me aformh th syllhjh toy Toyrkoy polith. Ola ayta deixnoyn pws o sygkekrimenos Toyrkos kai h syllhch toy exoyn kapoia sxesh me gegonota poy aforoyn tis politikes ejelijeis sthn Toyrkia ta teleytaia xronia. Exei endiaferon, loipon na parakoloyqhsoyme, epeidh genikws einai ena qema arketa shmantiko alla kai eidikws mas endiaferei ws xwra, ta ths syllhchs kai ths anakrishs poy akoloyqei toy Toyrkoy polith.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti apasxolei thn Kybernhsh to qema toy Typoy kai twn kyrwsewn enantion twn dhmosiografwn. Pote dhladh qa perimenoyme na erqei h diatajh toy k. Giannopoyloy; Syntoma;

REPPAS: Otan h Kybernhsh lambanei apofaseis epi sygkekrimenoy qematos, oi apofaseis aytes ginontai gnwstes. Mexri tote parakalw na mhn epanerxeste se ena qema to opoio den qewroyme oti einai se ena tetoio shmeio wrimanshs wste na sas anakoinwsoyme kai th xronikh stigmh kata thn opoia qa analaboyme th sygkekrimenh pleon prwtoboylia synolikws ws Kybernhsh, gia na qesoyme se efarmogh mia idea, mia apoch. Einai ena qema to opoio to antimetwpizei h Kybernhsh kai menw twra s' ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Prin h Kybernhsh probei s' aytes oles tis energeies qa synanthqei me ta syndikalistika swmateia; Qa rwthsei tis apoceis twn syndikalistikwn swmateiwn twn dhmosiografwn;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti den afora diwjh dhmosiografwn ayth h prwtoboylia toy k. Giannopoyloy. Einai prwtoboylia h opoia filodojei na antimetwpisei ena sygkekrimeno fainomeno, mia ektroph -qa moy epitrecete na pw- h opoia parathreitai se para polla programmata hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhmosiografoi einai aytoi poy paroysiazoyn ta qemata ayta.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti oi phges apo tis opoies exoyn tis plhrofories h ta stoixeia toys oi dhmosiografoi, me thn plhrh ennoia toy oroy, einai s' aytoys toylaxiston gnwstes. O k. Giannopoylos qelei na einai gnwstes oi phges se ekeinon poy toy askeitai kritikh h diatypwnontai enantion toy kathgories. Den einai dynato na diatypwnontai kataggelies xwris na einai epwnymes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O dhmosiografos qa diwketai me dyo xronia fylakish.

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, mhn epanerxeste. Otan exoyme kati pio sygkekrimeno, to qema ayto qa mas apasxolhsei kai pali.

FILHS: H Kybernhsh qewrei oti h apofash toy Proedroy Klinton na xtyphsei sto Afganistan kai sto Soydan stoxoys epikaloymenos qema eqnikhs asfaleias, kineitai mesa sta plaisia ths dieqnoys nomimothtas;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h qesh mas apenanti sthn tromokratia einai apolyth kai safhs. Katadikazoyme ta fainomena tromokratikhs bias kai qa prepei synergazomenoi na antimetwpisoyme apo koinoy ayto to fainomeno to opoio mastizei th dieqnh koinothta. Apo thn allh gia mia akomh fora epanalambanoyme thn pagia qesh mas: Eimaste yper ths akeraiothtas kai toy aparabiastoy toy xwroy kai twn synorwn kaqe kratoys. Pisteyoyme oti o Katastatikos Xarths toy OHE, oi kanones toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy einai aytoi oi opoioi qa ypagoreyoyn tis kinhseis kai tis epiloges mas. Anamenoyme tis plhrofories poy qa mas prosferoyn oi HPA gia ayth thn prwtoboylia toys, h opoia, opws eipwqhke, eixe ena poly sygkekrimeno stoxo. Na xtyphqei mia estia tromokratias apo thn opoia exoyn plhgei amerikanika symferonta. Eimaste twra s' ayto to stadio.

FILHS: Se poio stadio; Ths enhmerwshs apo thn amerikanikh kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Yphrje ena prwto stadio enhmerwshs toy Organismoy H. E. opws kai diaforwn kybernhsewn kai ths dikhs mas gia thn prwtoboylia ayth. Qa anamenoyme twra na yparxei h synexeia ayths ths plhroforhshs gia ta stoixeia ta opoia exoyn sxesh me leptomereies pleon ths prwtoboylias poy anelhfqh.

SOYRMELH: Epeidh akribws ap' oti fanhke apo tis parathrhseis toy k. Klima thn Paraskeyh prepei na doqhkan kapoies ejhghseis apo thn amerikanikh pleyra, kata th diarkeia poy briskotan edw, kai o k. Shmiths den to dieceyse. Mhpws, exete na mas peite kati parapanw gia aytes tis ejhghseis;

REPPAS: Apo poion se poion doqhkan oi ejhghseis;

SOYRMELH: To eipe o k. Klima. Eipe gia dieykriniseis poy doqhkan kai poy twra katanooyn thn prajh. Aytes tis ejhghseis mporeite na mas peite poies htan;

REPPAS: Den qa milhsw egw gia logariasmo toy Aystriakoy Kagkelarioy. Prepei na pw omws -epeidh to plhroforhqhka apo ajiopisth phgh kai isws etsi na exoyn ta pragmata- oti den yphrje apolyta pisth metafrash twn oswn eipe o k. Klima, me apotelesma isws na mhn apodoqoyn swsta oi qeseis toy. O k. Klima eipe pws elpizei na yparxoyn ola ekeina ta stoixeia ta opoia qa synhgoroyn yper ths anagkhs na analhfqei ayth h prwtoboylia apo tis HPA. Eipe, loipon, o Aystriakos Kagkelarios oti prepei na yparxoyn stoixeia ta opoia na dikaiologoyn ayth thn stratiwtikh drash, thn opoia anelabe h kybernhsh twn HPA.

MIXAHL: Afoy einai etsi opws mas ta lete, giati den bgazei mia anakoinwsh h edw Presbeia ths Aystrias poy na leei oti den apodoqhkan swsta. Dioti etsi opws mas ta lete twra h entypwsh allazei plhrws. O k. Klima xqes fanhke na sthrizei ton k. Klinton stis epiqeseis, enw...

REPPAS: Mporeite na prostrejete sto keimeno ths omilias toy k. Klima, na to metafrasete eseis kai na diapistwsete an exw dikio h oxi. Einai plhrofories tis opoies metaferw. Bebaiws den hmoyn parwn, alla einai apo ajiopisth phgh kai gi' ayto akribws ekrina skopimo -nomizw oti sas bohqaw sto ergo sas- na sas kanw ayth thn epishmansh.

Sas eyxaristw poly.


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