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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-04-27

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 27 Aprilioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos epikoinwnhse, shmera to prwi, me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias kai ton enhmerwse gia tis ergasies ths Synodoy Koryfhs toy NATO, stis opoies elabe meros.

* Gnwrizete oti brisketai sth xwra mas, gia epishmh episkech, o basilias ths Soyhdias Goystabos. Shmera, stis 13.00 qa synanthqei me ton Prwqypoyrgo sto Megaro Majimoy. Qa akoloyqhsei geyma, to opoio paraqetei o Prwqypoyrgos pros timhn toy basilia ths Soyhdias.

* Ayrio, stis 10.30, synedriazei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK. O Prwqypoyrgos kai Proedros toy PASOK sthn omilia toy qa anaferqei stis politikes ejelijeis.

* Thn Paraskeyh, qa synedriasei to KYSEA, me antikeimeno syzhthshs thn poreia toy ejoplistikoy programmatos.

* Th Deytera, gia na mpoyme kai sthn epomenh ebdomada, qa ginei sth Boylh, h pro hmerhsias diatajhs syzhthsh, me qema to NATO, poy exei zhthqei apo th Genikh Grammatea toy KKE ka Pararhga. Antilambaneste pws h syzhthsh ayth qa epektaqei genikotera stis teleytaies ejwterikes ejelijeis.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Ayrio, sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada qa milhsoyn kai oi boyleytes h mono o Prwqypoyrgos;

REPPAS: Asfalws qa milhsoyn.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Ayrio, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, k. Papandreoy, metabainei sth Mosxa. Ti prosdoka h kybernhsh apo ayto to tajidi;

REPPAS: Ayrio, o k. Papandreoy metabainei sth Mosxa, opoy qa synanthsei to Rwso omologo toy, k. Ibanof. Epishs, qa exei synanthsh me to Geniko Grammatea toy OHE k. Kofi Anan, o opoios brisketai sth Mosxa. Gnwrizete poly kala oti, edw kai arketo kairo, apo tote poy jespase h krish sto Kossyfopedio, h ellhnikh kybernhsh diathrei anoikto diaylo epikoinwnias me th rwsikh kybernhsh kai antallassontai apoceis sto plaisio mias epoikodomhtikhs prospaqeias gia thn anazhthsh ths politikhs odoy, prokeimenoy na lyqei h krish sto Kossyfopedio. Einai eytyxhs sygkyria oti qa brisketai sth Mosxa kai o G. G. toy OHE k. Anan. Oi treis politikoi qa exoyn thn eyxereia na syzhthsoyn qemata, poy aforoyn thn krish sto Kossyfopedio kai qa epidiwjoyn na syntonisoyn tis prospaqeies toys sthn kateyqynsh epilyshs ths krishs me politika mesa. Pisteyoyme oti ayth einai mia kalh stigmh gia na enisxyqei akomh perissotero h pleyra ekeinh, h opoia prospaqei dia ths eirhnikhs odoy na antimetwpisei to problhma.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn yparxei mia ekkremothta apo xqes, apo ton k. Aqanasakh. To rwthsame ean o Prwqypoyrgos me dikh toy prwtoboylia qa apofasisei na enhmerwsei toys politikoys arxhgoys. Kai mas apanthse: "perimenete na epistrecei kai qa doyme ti qa kanei". Yparxei ayth h apanthsh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete -to eipa, allwste, ligo prin- oti th Deytera, qa ginei sth Boylh sxetikh syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajhs. Oi arxhgoi twn politikwn kommatwn qa exoyn th dynatothta na ekqesoyn tis apoceis toys, na enhmerwsoyn kai na enhmerwqoyn. Bebaiws, o Prwqypoyrgos, ana pasa stigmh, einai sth diaqesh twn politikwn arxhgwn, prokeimenoy na syzhthsei mazi toys gia oti afora thn poreia twn eqnikwn qematwn kai thn ejwterikh politikh, efoson kai aytoi to epiqymoyn. Kata ta alla, den exei programmatistei ek meroys toy Prwqypoyrgoy synanthsh toy me toys politikoys arxhgoys.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti h antipoliteysh, meizon kai elasson, askei kritikh sthn Kybernhsh, legontas oti phge o Prwqypoyrgos sth Synodo toy NATO, xwris na exei oysiastika kanei enan kyklo diaboyleysewn me ta alla kommata, gia to poia qa einai h stash toy. Twra, ek twn ysterwn, den aisqanetai h kybernhsh thn anagkh na pei stis ypoloipes politikes dynameis sta plaisia -an qelete- toy zhtoymenoy apo oloys metwpoy eqnikhs omocyxias, ti egine sthn Oyasigkton kai ti mellei genesqai gyrw apo thn krish sto Kossyfopedio;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh aisqanetai thn anagkh na askei ejwterikh politikh me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras. Ayto epraje se oles tis periptwseis. H stash ths sthn teleytaia Synodo Koryfhs toy NATO, xarakthristhke apo thn entonh prospaqeia toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai twn ypoyrgwn Eqnikhs Amynas kai Ejwterikwn na probaloyn tis ellhnikes qeseis kai na epityxoyn, sto metro toy dynatoy, na symperilhfqoyn sta telika keimena twn Apofasewn, epishmanseis, oi opoies aphxoyn tis qeseis ths ellhnikhs ejwterikhs politikhs. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, antipoliteyontai thn kybernhsh. Exei diapistwqei -einai gnwstes oi qeseis toys- oti diafwnoyn metajy toys. Den yparxei, loipon, antipoliteytikh symfwnia. Aplws, yparxei antikybernhtikh omocyxia twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs. An gia diadikastikoys logoys h gia logoys taktikhs qa prepei na proxwrhsoyme se politikes diadikasies, oi opoies yponomeyoyn oysiastika thn eqnikh prooptikh, pisteyoyme oti qa exoyme diaprajei ena megalo sfalma. Ayto poy exei shmasia einai na askoyme ejwterikh politikh me gnwmona to symferon ths xwras. H politikh poy askei h kybernhsh einai h monh dynath, h monh efikth politikh poy mporei na askhqei, ayth thn wra, gia to megalo qema poy apasxolei kai th xwra mas. Den yparxoyn enallaktikes lyseis h enallaktikes protaseis. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs areskontai sto na askoyn kritikh sthn Kybernhsh, mono kai mono, gia na dhlwsoyn thn paroysia toys, epeidh -ayth einai kai h dikh moy ektimhsh- einai sigoyro, pleon, oti exei ekleicei o zwtikos xwros gia thn askhsh mias idiaiterhs, ek meroys toys, politikhs, afoy h politikh poy askei h kybernhsh kalyptei to synolo twn eqnikwn symferontwn kai endiaferontwn.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn qewrw oti, opws apodeiknyetai kai apo tis dhmoskophseis, h pleiochfia toy ellhnikoy laoy exei synaisqhmatika mia sympaqeia pros to serbiko lao kai thn ekfrazei, mesw kinhtopoihsewn, diadhlwsewn kai synayliwn, opws kai ayth poy egine xqes to brady sthn plateia Syntagmatos. Me ayto sa dedomeno, ektima h kybernhsh oti sth diamorfwsh aytoy toy synaisqhmatos, ayths ths stashs ths pleiochfias toy ellhnikoy laoy, exoyn meridio kai ta MME ths xwras;

REPPAS: Ta MME sthn Ellada einai eleyqera na leitoyrgoyn xwris periorismoys, xwris epibolh metrwn logokrisias. To metro eyqynhs twn leitoyrgwn twn MME qa prepei, idiaitera se tetoies periptwseis, na brisketai se poly ychlh staqmh. Ayto to anamenoyme apo ta MME. To ergo toys qa to krinoyn oi polites, oi anagnwstes twn efhmeridwn, oi akroates twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn, oi qeates twn thleoptikwn programmatwn. H kybernhsh, apo thn prwth stigmh, ekane prospaqeia kai exei epityxei na anadeijei th diplh taytothta ths xwras mas, sto plaisio twn prospaqeiwn gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio. Eimaste xwra ths E. E. kai toy NATO kai symmetexoyme stis apofaseis kai stis drasthriothtes twn Symmaxiwn kai twn megalwn Organismwn, stoys opoioys symmetexoyme. Eimaste xwra ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs kai, logw ayths ths balkanikhs idiaiterothtas mas, exoyme th dynatothta na anaptyjoyme apoceis, monoi emeis metajy olwn twn allwn xwrwn. Ayto, akribws, to stoixeio phgazei -an qelete- apo thn idia phgh, poy bgainei kai h synaisqhmatikh sxesh toy ellhnikoy laoy me to lao ths Serbias. Exoyme, loipon, me ayth thn ennoia anaptyjei thn idiaiterh taytothta mas. Epiqymoyme na yparxei antikeimenikh kai polypleyrh enhmerwsh twn politwn apo ta MME, giati h alhqeia swzei. Kai pisteyoyme oti oi Ellhnes polites dikaioyntai na gnwrizoyn oles tis ekdoxes, oles tis apoceis, gia thn krish sto Kossyfopedio.

MIXAHL: Eipate "anamenoyme apo ta MME ena ychlo metro staqmhs kai ypeyqynothtas" kai oti "qa kriqoyn apo toys akroates kai toys anagnwstes". Taytoxrona, eipate oti epiqymeite "mia polypleyrh kai antikeimenikh enhmerwsh". Giati to anamenete; Den yparxei ayto to ychlo metro staqmhs kai ypeyqynothtas;

REPPAS: Den milhsa deontologikws, milhsa ontologikws. Afenos, eipa oti oi leitoyrgoi twn MME prepei na diathroyn mia ychlh staqmh kai afeteroy, den eipa oti qa anamenoyme. Eipa oti ayto einai kati poy prepei na ginetai pantote. Kai sto parelqon qa eprepe na ginetai kai twra kai sto mellon. Einai kati to opoio apotelei kanona. Den zhtw thn ejairesh. Zhtw na isxysei o aparabatos kanonas, aytos poy prepei panta na xarakthrizei th leitoyrgia twn MME.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Afoy ta MME, lete oti sthn Ellada einai eleyqera, tote giati kleisate ton gnwsto thleoptiko staqmo sthn Katerinh; Kai mh moy peite gia ta pneymatika dikaiwmata, giati kai alloi staqmoi exoyn ypopesei se polles parabaseis kai den to exete kanei.

REPPAS: Ayto to qema poy epanaferete, para to gegonos oti apanthqhke me leptomereies, xqes, apo ton k. Aqanasakh, prepei na sas pw oti moy dinei thn eykairia na ekfrasw thn proswpikh moy enoxlhsh kai na diamartyrhqw dhmosiws gia th stash ths presbeias ths filhs Gioygkoslabias, h opoia, profanws, paraplanhqhke. Exw proxwrhsei sthn ekdosh ayths ths apofashs gia dyo thleoptikoys staqmoys, o enas ek twn opoiwn einai o "ERMHS T. V", epeidh akribws exoyn parabei systhmatika to nomo. Exoyme, kat` epanalhch, milhsei gia thn anagkh na apokatastaqei h nomimothta sth leitoyrgia twn MME, sthn patrida mas. To qema ths klophs twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, apo thleoptikoys staqmoys, gia mas einai poly shmantiko. Epi polla xronia, h ellhnikh Politeia adiaforhse, anti na antimetwpisei ayto to qema, me apotelesma na odhghsei se megalh krish tis sxeseis ths xwras mas me alles xwres, me kindyno megalo gia tis emporikes synallages, me endexomeno na plhgoyn ta oikonomika kai emporika symferonta ths xwras mas, an epiblhqoyn apo tis alles xwres twn opoiwn qigontai ta symferonta, logw ths klophs twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, periorismoi sta ellhnika proionta. Proxwrhsame, loipon, entatika me bash sygkekrimeno sxedio to opoio exoyme ekponhsei kai anakoinwsei apo to telos toy 1996- sthn efarmogh sygkekrimenwn metrwn, prokeimenoy na apokatastaqei h nomimothta sth leitoyrgia twn hlektronikwn MME. Einai kati poy kai eseis prepei na to qelete. Sto plaisio ayto, kai mono se ayto to plaisio, antimetwpisame me ayto ton tropo th leitoyrgia toy sygkekrimenoy staqmoy kai proxwrhsame sth diakoph ths leitoyrgias toy. Ola ta alla einai dhmagwgika, einai laikistikes ypekfyges, oi opoies xrhsimopoioyntai ws propetasma. H alhqeia einai ayth: Se anypopto xrono kai gia teleiws diaforetiko logo exoyme proxwrhsei sthn antimetwpish, me ayto ton tropo, twn sygkekrimenwn staqmwn. H diadikasia ayth akoloyqeitai gia tesseris thleoptikoys staqmoys. Mporw na mpw se leptomereies -an sas endiaferei- poia einai ayth h diadikasia, stadio pros stadio. Gia toys dyo staqmoys exei lhfqei h telikh apofash, giati oloklhrwqhke ayth h diadikasia elegxoy. Einai "karampinates" periptwseis paranomhs leitoyrgias toy sygkekrimenoy staqmoy, oson afora to sebasmo twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, twn dhmioyrgwn ergwn ta opoia problhqhkan sto sygkekrimeno staqmo. Ayta einai fainomena anepitrepta. Einai fainomena, ta opoia mas gyrizoyn se ena mesaiwna. Den qa epitrecoyme h Ellada na paroysiazetai ws mia tritokosmikh xwra. Ayto prepei na einai safes pros oloys. Lypoymai para poly poy kapoioi paizoyn me mia toso shmantikh krish, me ena toso megalo qema. Tetoia eyteleia! Tetoia xydaiothta! Otan exoyme na antimetwpisoyme enan polemo sth geitonia mas. Einai qema ayto, to opoio qa prepei na xrhsimopoieitai apo kapoioys, epeidh qeloyn etsi na antipoliteyqoyn thn kybernhsh; Den exoyn alla mesa; Den exoyn alles politikes protaseis;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, s` ayto to staqmo kai stoys alloys poy lete -toys treis- parabiazontai ta pneymatika dikaiwmata; Mono s' aytoys brhkate eseis oti parabiazontai; Oi Amerikanoi gi' aytoys toys staqmoys diamartyrhqhkan; Giati ayto einai poly pio palio. Prin anoijei aytos o staqmos.

REPPAS: To qema twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn eteqh sthn Ellada, gia prwth fora to 1991. Lypoymai poy den antimetwpisthke egkairws. Kai den antimetwpisthke egkairws, me apotelesma na exoyme mia ekrhktikh anaptyjh twn hlektronikwn Meswn Enhmerwshs sthn ellhnikh perifereia, ta teleytaia idiws xronia, xwris na yparxei nomiko plaisio. Odhghqhkame, opws exw pei kat' epanalhch, s' ena kaqestws zoygklas. Qa eprepe na antimetwpisoyme ayto to fainomeno. Oi kataggelies poy exoyme apo thn EPOE (enas Organismos o opoios epimeleitai akribws ths diafylajhs, ths thrhshs toy, sebasmoy twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn dhmioyrgwn) afora tesseris thleoptikoys staqmoys kai monon. An exete eseis kapoia allh kataggelia poy basizetai se plhrofories dikes sas, qa thn ejetasoyme kai ayth. O elegxos ginetai me systhmatiko tropo, me thn kataqesh sygkekrimenwn tekmhriwn kai ntokoymentwn, prin lhfqei h telikh apofash. Sas kalw kai esas an exete sygkekrimenh kataggelia, na th diatypwsete kai qa lhfqei sobarotata ypoch.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Einai alhqeia oti o k. Mperns diamartyrhqhke ston k. Magkriwth gia to sygkekrimeno staqmo;

REPPAS: Den exei kanena logo o k. Mperns na diamartyrhqei ston k. Magkriwth gia to sygkekrimeno staqmo. Den jerw an to exei kanei, alla den exei kanena apolytws logo. Giati; Giati o sygkekrimenos staqmos, opws kai oi alloi kataggelqentes staqmoi, exoyn parabei th sygkekrimenh nomoqesia. Empiptei sth dikh mas armodiothta na antimetwpisoyme th leitoyrgia toys, me ton tropo poy problepei o nomos. Kai ayto kanoyme. Kapoioi -lypoymai poy to kanoyn ayto- mas kathgoroyn giati efarmozoyme to nomo. Ekei ftasame ! ! Giati kapoioi dojologoyn thn asydosia; Den to antilambanomai. Mono kai mono gia na xtyphsoyn thn kybernhsh; Ayta einai adianohta pragmata. Idiws malista otan sysxetizoyn mia paranomh leitoyrgia me ena megalo qema poy afora enan lao, ena kratos, poy exei sygklonisei thn anqrwpothta; Einai dynaton thn wra poy prepei na epideijoyme oloi eyqynh, na xrhsimopoioyme tetoies mikropolitikes meqodoys gia na deijoyme thn antipoliteytikh mas diaqesh; Lypoymai poly.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate, gia na teleiwnw, oti mono gia tesseris staqmoys yparxoyn. Oi alloi oloi, oxi. Gia kanenan allo.

REPPAS: Moy dinete th dynatothta na ekfrasw twra thn ikanopoihsh moy, afoy prin ejefrasa enoxlhsh, giati katorqwsame afenos me to nomoqetiko plaisio poy exoyme dhmioyrghsei kai afeteroy me thn kalh synergasia kai epafh poy exoyme me tis dyo Enwseis twn Perifereiakwn Hlektronikwn Meswn, to qema twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, na einai ek twn qematwn poy exoyn teqei se ychlh proteraiothta apo toys leitoyrgoys aytwn twn MME kai na antimetwpizetai kanonika. Me apotelesma ston tomea ayto h eikona ths Ellados na exei allajei qeamatika pros to kalytero. Fantasteite ti qa shmaine gia th xwra mas an epiballontan periorismoi h dasmoi kata thn eisagwgh ellhnikwn proiontwn se alles xwres, twn opoiwn symferonta qigontai. Poies qa htan oi zhmies gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Prepei na sas pw oti gia to qema ayto, meta apo kataggelia ths kybernhshs twn HPA, h opoia egine edw kai peripoy ena xrono, eimaste sth diadikasia poy problepetai sth Geneyh sto plaisio toy Pagkosmioy Organismoy Emporioy. Exoyn ginei dyo diaboyleyseis gia to qema ayto. Einai poly shmantiko qema. An ellhnika proionta poy ejagontai stis HPA, epibarynqoyn me dasmoys h apagoreytei gia diaforoys logoys h eisagwgh toys, den qa qigei h ellhnikh oikonomia; Den qa prepei, loipon, na deijoyme eyaisqhsia kai emeis; Alla peran aytoy einai kai qema arxhs. Eseis eiste pneymatikoi dhmioyrgoi. Den qelete na ginetai sebasth h pneymatikh dhmioyrgia;

STAMATOPOYLOS: H amerikanikh diamartyria poy lete oti egine otan eixe erqei tote o Mperns edw kai mas eipate oti ayto to qema syzhthsate, htan gia toys tesseris aytoys staqmoys;

REPPAS: Me ton k. Mperns exoyme syzhthsei kat` epanalhch ayto to qema, giati ws ekproswpos ths kybernhshs toy exei qesei sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, metajy twn allwn problhmatwn, kai ayto. Kai prepei na sas pw oti ayto to qema to exei qesei kai o Proedros Klinton kata thn episkech poy kaname to 1996 sthn Oyasigkton. Einai poly megalo qema ayto gia thn oikonomia twn HPA. Kai h kybernhsh twn HPA to qetei me diaforoys tropoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me sygkekrimena stoixeia; Dinoyn staqmoys;

REPPAS: Den asxoleitai me ayto h kybernhsh twn HPA. Yparxoyn Organismoi poy asxoloyntai kai apo kei kai pera me bash ta stoixeia ta opoia perierxontai ypoch mas, sth gnwsh mas, antimetwpizoyme analogws ta qemata. To idio egine kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh. Mh dinete alles diastaseis. Lypoymai para-para poly. Poly perissotero otan sysxetizetai me thn krish sto Kossyfopedio. Ayto einai anepitrepto.

S. MPERMPERAKHS: H Ellada qewrei to rolo ths Rwsias ws to monadiko "kleidi" gia thn epilysh ths krishs, dedomenoy oti edw exoyme na kanoyme me mia sygkroysh NATO- Beligradioy.

REPPAS: Den eipa ayto kai den to lew oyte meta thn erwthsh sas. Eipa oti h Rwsia exei diatypwsei sygkekrimenes qeseis. Emeis exoyme diatypwsei sygkekrimenes qeseis oi opoies einai diaforetikes. Alles xwres toy NATO h ths E. E. exoyn diatypwsei tis dikes toys qeseis, poy einai diaforetikes. Poios einai o koinos topos; To oti oi xwres aytes epiqymoyn na epidiwxqei mia politikh proseggish gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs. Qeloyme na dwsoyme mia akomh eykairia sthn eirhnh. Ayto ton koino topo qeloyme na dieyrynoyme. Qeloyme na dynamwsoyme tis prospaqeies prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei h krish sto Kossyfopedio me eirhnika kai diplwmatika mesa. Kai sto plaisio ayths ths prospaqeias, ginontai aytes oi epafes, aytes oi epikoinwnies.

S. MPERMPERAKHS: Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio gia tis dhlwseis poy kanei tis teleytaies wres o k. Ntraskobits;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw akribws to periexomeno twn dhlwsewn. An qelete na me rwthsete epi sygkekrimenoy qematos poia einai h qesh ths kybernhshs, eyxaristws mporw na sas apanthsw. Alla den qewrw skopimo na sxoliazw dhlwseis jenwn hgetwn. Kaqe hgeths exei tis apoceis toy. An qelete na me rwthsete gia kapoio sygkekrimeno qema, mporw na sas apanthsw.

S. MPERMPERAKHS: Oxi, egw rwtaw gia aytes kaq' eaytes tis dhlwseis toy.

REPPAS: Kanei tis dhlwseis aytes o k. Ntraskobits gia na ekfrasei tis qeseis toy. Qa krinei tis qeseis toy o laos ton opoion ekproswpei. O laos ths xwras toy. Emeis epiqymoyme na symbaloyn oloi prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato na jeperastei ayth h krish me tis mikroteres kata to dynaton zhmies. Xwris qymata an einai dynaton, poy dystyxws mexri twra eixame arketa.

KONTELLH: To KYSEA qa parei thn telikh apofash thn Paraskeyh;

REPPAS: To KYSEA qa syzhthsei gia to ejoplistiko programma. Prin synedriasei, mhn perimenete apo mena na sas anakoinwsw apofaseis.

KONTELLH: Oxi, alla qa parei thn telikh apofash;

REPPAS: To KYSEA qa syzhthsei kai, ws kyriarxo organo, qa apofasisei analogws. Exw pei, edw kai poly kairo, me safhneia, oti qa synedriasei thn hmera ayth. Exoyn ginei proergasies gia to qema poy qa to apasxolhsei thn Paraskeyh. To KYSEA qa krinei an pragmatika einai h wra na parei thn telikh apofash. Pisteyw oti meta thn proergasia poy exei ginei, eimaste sthn wra twn apofasewn. Alla gia logoys deontologikoys den mporw na to pw ayto prin synedriasei to organo.

MIXAHL: Xqes h gioygkoslabikh presbeia diorganwse dejiwsh ep` eykairia ths eqnikhs giorths ths Gioygkoslabias. H kybernhsh giati den ekproswphqhke; Giati den phge kanenas ypoyrgos, afoy maqame oti htan oloi kalesmenoi;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh ekproswphqhke.

MIXAHL: Dia poioy;

REPPAS: Sth dejiwsh, ej oswn gnwrizw, paresth o dieyqynths toy Grafeioy toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn, o presbhs k. Agaqoklhs. Opws epishs o dieyqynths toy Grafeioy toy Proedroy ths Boylhs k. Kaklamanh, alla kai alloi paragontes toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, oi opoioi einai armodioi gia tis ypoqeseis ths perioxhs twn Balkaniwn.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h kybernhsh, to kybernhtiko sxhma ap' ton Prwqypoyrgo mexri ton teleytaio Yfypoyrgo sth seira prwtokolloy, einai 43 atoma. Den breqhke enas na paei ek meroys ths kybernhsews poy na exei qesh Ypoyrgoy h Yfypoyrgoy;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti h kybernhsh ekproswphqhke. Apo kei kai pera einai qema proswpikhs epiloghs twn ypoyrgwn na epilejoyn ayto to opoio qa kanoyn. H kybernhsh ekproswphqhke. H kybernhsh htan paroysa. Den apoysiase h kybernhsh. Ayto einai poy exei shmasia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yphresiakoi paragontes phgan, den phge h kybernhsh.

REPPAS: Gia na ekproswphsoyn thn kybernhsh, oxi ton eayto toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oxi kybernhtikoi paragontes, yphresiakoi paragontes phgan.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti h qesh thn opoia katexei o k. Agaqoklhs, einai politikh qesh. Einai dieyqynths toy Grafeioy toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Bebaiws exei thn idiothta toy presbh, alla den phge ws yphresiakos paragwn. Den einai epikefalhs mias Yphresias, mias Dieyqynshs, enos Tmhmatos. Einai o dieyqynths poy epelegh na analabei ayto to ajiwma apo ton idio ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn.

FLORES: Qa perasoyn oi xiliades prosfyges apo to aerodromio ths Qessalonikhs;

REPPAS: Exoyme pei oti qa prepei na xrhsimopoihqoyn ta aerodromia ths perioxhs, prokeimenoy na prowqhqoyn prosfyges ston teliko proorismo toys, meta apo tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei apo diafores kybernhseis, na filojenhsoyn h kaqe mia ena orismeno ariqmo prosfygwn. Asfalws, qa xrhsimopoihqei kai h Qessalonikh ws endiamesos staqmos. Epanalambanw, mono ws endiamesos staqmos, prokeimenoy kapoios ariqmos prosfygwn na prowqhqei se alloys proorismoys. Ayto qa ginei, meta apo synennohsh olwn twn emplekomenwn merwn.

Eyxaristw poly.


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