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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-05-10

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 10 Maioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos brisketai shmera sto Agion Oros. Filojenei ton Portogalo omologo toy, ton k. Gkoytieres. Kata thn paramonh toy sth Qessalonikh qa exei ayrio kai pali synanthsh me ton Portogalo prwqypoyrgo kai meta th synomilia toys qa proboyn se dhlwseis. O Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei, epishs, me toys prwqypoyrgoys twn Skopiwn kai ths Albanias. Sto epikentro twn syzhthsewn toy k. Shmith me ton k. Gkeorgkefski kai ton k. Maiko, asfalws, briskontai h krish sto Kossyfopedio, h sxesh ths Elladas me tis dyo geitonikes xwres kai h prospaqeia poy kanoyme na enisxysoyme tis kybernhseis twn dyo geitonikwn xwrwn, prokeimenoy na antimetwpisoyn ta anqrwpistika problhmata poy exoyn proklhqei, logw ayths ths krishs.

H syzhthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Gkoytieres qa exei ena genikotero periexomeno. Gnwrizete, allwste, oti kai h Ellada kai h Portogalia einai xwres toy kaloymenoy eyrwpaikoy notoy. Exoyme mia koinh optikh kai proseggish sta perissotera, toylaxiston, qemata ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Genikws, exoyme idiaiteres sxeseis. Kai se proswpiko epipedo, qa elega, oi dyo prwqypoyrgoi exoyn poly kales sxeseis.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei, arga ayrio to brady, sthn Aqhna. Etsi epifylassomai na sas pw gia to programma toy, twn epomenwn hmerwn, thn Tetarth.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete tis synepeies, se dieqnes epipedo, apo to bombardismo ths Kinezikhs Presbeias, sto Beligradi, synepeies opws h diakoph twn synomiliwn gia ton elegxo twn pyrhnikwn kai an pisteyete oti ayth h ejelijh, mazi me alles ejelijeis, mporei na epitaxynoyn to telos toy polemoy.

REPPAS: Me thn anakoinwsh, h opoia egine meta th Synodo twn oktw xwrwn, eixame th dynatothta na ekfrasoyme thn ikanopoihsh mas kai na dhlwsoyme pws noiwqoyme en merei kai dikaiwmenoi, giati h pleyra ekeinh twn dynamewn poy epiqymei thn politikh kai eirhnikh proseggish kai lysh toy problhmatos, enisxyetai apofasistika. Einai mia poly shmantikh kinhsh. Einai ena bhma krisimo, to opoio mporei na odhghsei sthn antimetwpish ayths ths krishs. Kalesame, epishs, th gioygkoslabikh hgesia na antapokriqei qetika s` ayth thn protash twn oktw xwrwn. H symfwnia ayth, h opoia sto synolo ths, sxedon, periexei qeseis poy kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh, thn prohgoymenh periodo, eixe anaptyjei, pisteyoyme pws prepei na ajiopoihqei kai na apotelesei th bash gia tis diapragmateyseis, prokeimenoy na broyme th diplwmatikh lysh sto problhma. Dystyxws, an afhsoyme ton kairo na pernaei, tote steroyme apo th dynatothta ths politikhs lyshs, para polloys pontoys. Gi` ayto pisteyoyme oti, to syntomotero dynato, prepei na ajiopoihqei ayth h protash. Oles oi pleyres qa prepei, amesws, an einai dynato, na parakaqisoyn se ena trapezi, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn ta sxetika qemata. Oi bombardismoi, me qymata aqwoys polites, dyskoleyoyn ayth thn poreia. Pisteyoyme oti tetoies prajeis einai epikindynes, exoyn tragika apotelesmata kai mporei na ektrecoyn tis prospaqeies poy kanei o dieqnhs paragontas, gia mia politikh lysh sto problhma, sthn kateyqynsh ths diaiwnishs ths krishs. Ayto qa htan mia arnhtikh ejelijh. Pisteyoyme, loipon, pws twra den qa prepei na afhsoyme na paei xamenh ayth h axtida fwtos kai elpidas poy paroysiasthke, wste na thn ajiopoihsoyme kai na dwsoyme mia politikh-diplwmatikh kai eirhnikh apanthsh sthn krish. Ayth einai h dikh mas qesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti aisqaneste dikaiwmenoi. Giati; Den ypogracate ki eseis toys bombardismoys; Den ypegrace o k. Shmiths, toys bombardismoys thn prwth fora; Kai den ypegrace kai th synexish, sthn Oyasigkton; Dikaiwmenoi se ti;

REPPAS: Qetete mia poly genikh erwthsh. Exoyme milhsei, kat` epanalhch, gia ta qemata ayta. Gnwrizete poly kala oti h qesh ths Elladas -kai einai epilogh ths syntriptikhs pleiochfias toy ellhnikoy laoy- einai h entajh ths se megales symmaxies, se megaloys dieqneis organismoys. Qa antapokriqoyme stis symbatikes ypoxrewseis poy exoyme kai oi opoies aporreoyn apo tis desmeyseis poy analambanoyme apo th stigmh poy entassomaste s` aytoys toys megaloys organismoys. Ayto einai safes. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, oloi oi xeirismoi kai h stash mas gia epimeroys qemata, qa krinontai me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Giati gia emas, proexei to symferon ths Elladas. Prwta h Ellada. Ayth h frash sympyknwnei to nohma kai to periexomeno ths politikhs mas. Gi` ayto den symmetexoyme se epixeirhseis poy mexri twra exoyn ginei. Gi` ayto exoyme dhlwsei, eyqys ej arxhs, oti den qa paroyme meros se xersaies epixeirhseis, an anaptyxqoyn tetoies epixeirhseis. Einai safes oti eimaste h monh xwra ths E. E. kai toy NATO poy exoyme ayth thn idiaiterh stash, antapokrinomenoi oriaka stis ypoxrewseis mas apenanti stis dieqneis symmaxies poy exoyme synacei kai apenanti stoys dieqneis organismoys, stoys opoioys anhkoyme.

Me thn eykairia, pantws, mporw -kanontas mia parenqesh- na anaferw ena xarakthristiko paradeigma poy afora to komma ths N. D., h opoia ws melos toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos desmeyetai apo mia sxetikh apofash toy, h opoia eixe ekdoqei, stis 8 Aprilioy. H apofash ayth, metajy twn allwn -kai to lew ayto gia prwth fora- anaferetai sto geitoniko kratos twn Skopiwn, me to onoma "Makedonia" kai den eida kamia antidrash apo th N. D. Epishs, h apofash ayth toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos kanei logo gia mia apo makroy sxediasmenh genoktonia kai oxi eqnikh ekkaqarish. H genoktonia einai kati poly pio prowqhmeno. H dhlwsh ayth einai poly sklhrh, poly aysthrh gia thn hgesia ths Gioygkoslabias.

Meta thn parenqesh ayth, prepei na sas ypenqymisw oti emeis, apo thn prwth stigmh, diatypwsame protaseis kai symbalame sthn anaptyjh sxetikwn prwtoboyliwn, prokeimenoy na broyme mia politikh lysh sto problhma ths krishs toy Kossyfopedioy. Eimaste h kybernhsh, h opoia, se oloys toys tonoys kai me emfash, diatypwse thn anagkh mias politikhs proseggishs sto problhma. S` ayth th qesh paramenoyme. Kai xairomaste, giati kai alles dynameis, oi opoies mexri protinos htan ametakinhtes kai apolyta topoqethmenes sthn anagkh antimetwpishs toy problhmatos mono mesw polemikwn epixeirhsewn, mesw bombardismwn, syzhtoyn twra kai proteinoyn diejodoys gia politikh lysh sthn krish toy Kossyfopedioy. Ayto shmainei oti exoyme mia enisxysh ths pleyras ekeinhs twn dynamewn stis opoies, ej arxhs, anhke kai h Ellada, poy pisteyoyn oti o polemos den lynei ta problhmata, alla antiqetws, dhmioyrgei perissotera. Th frash ayth xrhsimopoihsa, edw kai ena mhna, apantwntas se sxetikh erwthsh. Den ta lew twra, gia prwth fora. Ayth einai h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai s` aythn paramenoyme me synepeia. Kai pisteyw oti einai koina anagnwrismeno pws h politikh poy akoloyqei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, einai poly syneth kai antapokrinetai sta eqnika symferonta ths xwras.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, k. Ypoyrge, qelete na moy peite oti "paizete se dyo tamplo"; Kai na toys skotwnete kai na qelete na toys swsete; Den to katalaba ayto;

REPPAS: Den exw kamia amfibolia oti den to katalabate. Ayto to opoio hqela na pw egw, to eipa. Eseis, to ti qelete na katalabete, qa to katalabete eseis, xwris th dikh moy bohqeia. Egw eipa poia einai h politikh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, h opoia pisteyw oti einai poly katanohth apo ton ellhniko lao. Oi isorropies sthn perioxh mas einai eyqraystes. Emeis akoloyqoyme mia politikh, h opoia epidiwkei, taytoxronws, na enisxysei thn ajiopistia ths Elladas se ola ta pedia, sta opoia eimaste parontes kai anaptyssoyme prwtoboylies. To exoyme epityxei se poly ikanopoihtiko baqmo kai qa synexisoyme thn politikh mas s` ayth thn kateyqynsh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, lete oti den metexete. Pws den metexei h Ellada; Den metexei me Qessalonikh, me Aktio, me to "Qemistoklhs"; Den metexete s` ola ayta;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti antapokrinomaste stis symbatikes ypoxrewseis mas me tropo oriako. To antitorpiliko "Qemistoklhs" den exei kamia sxesh me polemikes drasthriothtes. To exoyme pei, kat` epanalhch, kai to epanalambanw, afoy den to enqymiste h afoy qelete na to jexnate. To Aktio einai xwros, opws kai h bash sth Soyda, poy ek twn pragmatwn mporei na xrhsimopoieitai gia drasthriothtes toy NATO. Alla epishs, einai poly gnwsto se esas kai se oloys toys Ellhnes, oti oi ellhnikes dynameis, an kai einai dynameis mias xwras-meloys toy NATO, einai oi mones poy den symmetexoyn stis polemikes epixeirhseis poy exoyn anaptyxqei, edw kai perissotero apo ena mhna. Ayto, loipon, deixnei poso proaspizoyme to eqniko symferon, anadeiknyontas thn idiaiterh taytothta ths xwras mas, epeidh peran toy oti eimaste xwra-melos ths E. E. kai toy NATO, eimaste kai xwra ths notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs, twn Balkaniwn. Kai kleinw, legontas, gia mia akomh fora, kati poy epishs sas diafeygei -skopimws, profanws- oti h Ellada einai h monh xwra h opoia, logw ths diplhs ajiopistias poy exei kerdisei, apospa ta qetika sxolia, ton epaino kai apo tis dyo pleyres poy exoyn emplakei s` ayth thn krish. Ayto deixnei poso h isorroph kai syneth politikh mas exei apodwsei karpoys yper toy eqnikoy symferontos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den metexei h Ellada s' ayto to sxedio, sth synodo poy qa ginei sto Petersmpergk kai metexoyn oles oi omores xwres twn Balkaniwn, ektos apo thn Ellada kai th Gioygkoslabia;

REPPAS: Gia poia diaskech milate;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia th diabalkanikh poy ginetai sto Petersmpergk, stis 27 Maioy. H monh xwra poy den metexei einai h Ellada. Na sas diabasw, poies metexoyn: Skopia, Albania, Roymania, Boylgaria, Bosnia-Erzegobinh, Oyggaria, Slobenia, Kroatia kai h Germania, ws proedreyoysa ths E. E. Giati h Ellada den metexei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti oles oi xwres poy anaferate den einai melh ths E. E. H Germania einai h monh xwra ths E. E., h opoia metexei, dioti askei thn Proedria ths E. E. Geitonikes xwres qewroyntai kai h Italia kai h Aystria. Einai xwres poy symmetexoyn se tetoies diadikasies. H diaskech ayth sthn opoia anafereste, exei allo xarakthra. H germanikh proedria kalei aytes tis xwres, prokeimenoy na syzhthsoyn sxetika qemata. Kai gnwrizete poly kala oti mazi me thn protash poy exei kanei h germanikh proedria, idiaiterws o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Germanias gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn, exoyme diatypwsei kai emeis mia plhrh, analytikh protash gia thn enisxysh twn balkanikwn kratwn, prokeimenoy na epityxoyn thn anasygkrothsh toys, meta ton termatismo ths krishs. Gia to logo ayto, allwste, to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn exei kanei mia shmantikh doyleia mexri twra, prokeimenoy me epityxia na diorganwqei ayth h diaskech sthn Aqhna, thn epomenh periodo. Kai qa ginei. Pisteyw oti ayth thn wra poy oloi anagnwrizoyn oti h Ellada exei mia poly qetikh kai shmantikh paroysia se ejelijeis poy aforoyn thn antimetwpish ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio, einai adiko na kathgoreite thn Ellada oti apoysiazei kai h Ellada, me toys ekproswpoys ths, einai pantaxoy paroysa. Alloi einai apontes kai prospaqoyn na kalycoyn to keno twn prajewn toys me mia plhqwra logwn. Kai malista logwn, xwris oysiastiko periexomeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mas ekproswpei h Germania, qelete na peite...

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, exete mia eyxereia kai ikanothta na bgazete poly eykola kai grhgora symperasmata. Twra, to poso einai eystoxa ta symperasmata sas, einai allo qema. Einai dika sas pantws!

STAMATOPOYLOS: Thn Ellada thn ekproswpei kapoios ekei;

REPPAS: H Ellada einai pantote paroysa s` aytes tis diadikasies. H germanikh proedria, parallhlws, anaptyssei alles drasthriothtes, me xwres oi opoies den anhkoyn sthn E. E., gia thn antimetwpish synafwn qematwn. Den exei sxesh to ena me to allo. Kai den prepei na sas odhgei sto symperasma oti h Ellada einai apoysa. Kaqe allo. Epanalambanw, oti alloi einai apontes kai prospaqoyn to keno ths apoysias toys na to kalycoyn me plhqwra logwn kai malista xwris periexomeno. To lew ayto me emfash.

SOYGLERHS: Meta thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh kai genika sysswmh thn antipoliteysh kai h fwnh toy epitimoy proedroy ths N. D., toy k. Mhtsotakh kanei logo oti h Kybernhsh den epaije ton prwtarxiko rolo poy qa eprepe sto qema. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: H Ellada, oxi aplws antapokriqhke stis ypoxrewseis kai o rolos poy epaije einai poly qetikos, toso gia thn antimetwpish ths krishs, oso kai gia thn enisxysh ths dieqnoys qeshs ths xwras, alla poly pera apo ayto, qa elega, oti edeije aretes kai dynatothtes prwtofaneis, ayth thn krisimh periodo. Ayto anagnwrizetai apo oloys. Epanalambanw oti h Ellada einai isws h monh xwra h opoia sygkentrwnei egkwmiastika sxolia apo perissoteres ths mias pleyras kai ayto einai endeiktiko toy poso exoyme askhsei, me petyxhmeno tropo, mia politikh h opoia afenos antapokrinetai plhrws sta symferonta ths xwras kai afeteroy epidiwke to syntomotero dynato, na doqei mia politikh kai eirhnikh lysh sthn krish sto Kossyfopedio.

MIXAHL: Kat' arxhn, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh eixe gnwsh, ektos apo shmera to prwi, prwtomaqame oloi, gia thn ekqesh toy NATO poy dhmosieyetai sthn efhmerida "TA NEA" sxetika me tis epiptwseis toy polemoy stis geitonikes xwres kai eidikotera sthn Albania kai ta Skopia. Thn jerate eseis ayth thn ekqesh;

REPPAS: Oi armodies yphresies oi opoies asxoloyntai me to qema ayto, oi ekproswpo mas sto NATO, parakoloyqoyn aytes tis ejelijeis kai enhmerwnontai gia ta eggrafa ta opoia diakinoyntai, sto plaisio twn leitoyrgiwn kai twn yphresiwn toy NATO. To oti yparxoyn problhmata kai dysmeneis synepeies gia tis geitonikes xwres apo thn paratash ayths ths krishs sto Kossyfopedio, einai perissotero apo profanes. Apo thn prwth stigmh to eipame. Qymaste oti syzhthsame sxetika qemata, edw kai arketes hmeres, otan gia prwth fora sas anakoinwsa thn epistolh poy esteile o Prwqypoyrgos toy kratoys twn Skopiwn k. Gkeorgkiefski stoys omologoys toy, opoy ejepempe ena S. O. S. gia thn patrida toy, legontas pws hdh eimaste sta oria ths antoxhs mas. Ayto einai ena qema, to opoio exoyme syzhthsei edw kai para poly kairo. Den einai kati to opoio projenei entypwsh, den einai kati kainoyrgio. Gi' ayto akribws miloyme gia thn anagkh lhchs sygkekrimenwn metrwn gia thn anasygkrothsh ths eyryterhs perioxhs. Kai o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy eixe pei, me emfash, diatypwnontas thn ellhnikh protash oti ta Balkania qa prepei na apotelesoyn antikeimeno endiaferontos ths Eyrwphs, oxi mono se periodoys poy einai krisimes h se polemikes periodoys. Alla, qa prepei thn periodo ths eirhnhs na doyme oti sthn Eyrwph yparxei mia perioxh ychlhs reystothtas kai pollwn kindynwn kai gi' ayto qa prepei na analaboyme oysiastikes prwtoboylies, wste na apokatastaqei h politikh staqerothta kai na einai omales oi ejelijeis.

MIXAHL: Sthn ekqesh ayth toy NATO gia to endexomeno kai thn anhsyxia apostaqeropoihshs toy kratoys twn Skopiwn, h kybernhsh kanei kapoies energeies. Qa doyme sthn prajh an aytes oi energeies qa apoboyn h oxi xrhsimes. Omws, sthn periptwsh ths Albanias ta pragmata fainetai na mhn einai toso poly jekaqarismena. Qelw, loipon, na sas rwthsw, gia thn kybernhsh oi ellhnoalbanikes sxeseis briskontai se epipedo kalo, opws htan prin apo ton polemo h exoyn metablhqei, me dedomeno oti emeis leme gia politikh lysh, oxi allagh synorwn kai h epishmh albanikh hgesia milaei gia apeleyqerwsh toy Kossyfopedioy;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola oi sxeseis metajy twn dyo xwrwn einai para poly kales, opws htan kai thn prohgoymenh periodo, edw kai arketa xronia. To oti yparxei mia diaforetikh proseggish sthn krish toy Kossyfopedioy apo thn pleyra ths Albanias, se sxesh me thn proseggish allwn xwrwn kai ayto einai gegonos. Einai alhqino. Den shmainei omws oti dhmioyrgeitai kindynos gia yponomeysh twn dimerwn sxesewn. Pisteyoyme oti h qesh sthn opoia katelhjan oi oktw megales xwres, tis prohgoymenes hmeres -qesh poy gia mas apotelei th bash gia thn ejeyresh lyshs sto Kossyfopedio- mporei na brei symfwnh kai thn hgesia ths Albanias, h opoia kai ayth, opws kai oles oi alles xwres ths perioxhs, pisteyw oti synomologoyn pws qa prepei na anazhthsoyme lysh sta problhmata, sebomenoi orismenes arxes, metajy twn opoiwn kyriarxh einai h diathrhsh twn synorwn, opws ayta shmera yfistantai.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti entos ths Albanias pleon katagrafetai mia katastash oligon anejelegkth se orismenes periptwseis, sas anhsyxei gia tyxon epiptwseis sthn ellhnikh meionothta;

REPPAS: Gia to qema ayto exoyme syzhthsei kat' epanalhch kai exoyme kanei sxetika diabhmata. Exoyme labei diabebaiwseis apo thn kybernhsh ths Albanias kai panta parakoloyqoyme pws ejelissontai ta pragmata sth notia Albania. Exoyme pei oti den prepei na qigoyn oi perioysies kai ta symferonta twn omogenwn poy diabioyn sthn perioxh ayth. Ayto exei ginei sebasto. Pisteyw oti se mia periodo krishs, logiko einai kai sthn Albania, ths opoias oi dhmokratikoi qesmoi, den qa elega oti exoyn thn wrimothta ekeinh poy qa qwrakize th xwra gia na antimetwpisei me eyxereia tetoia problhmata, na antimetwpizontai tetoia problhmata, na yparxoyn aytoi oi kradasmoi. Den prepei omws na fqanoyme sto shmeio na miloyme gia to endexomeno mias katarreyshs. Tetoio qema den yfistatai. H Ellada ws xwra poy brisketai s' ayth th geitonia kai synoreyei m' ayta ta krath, kat' epanalhch exei milhsei gia tis prospaqeies poy kanei, mazi me tis alles xwres ths E. E., gia th staqerothta sthn perioxh, gia th diathrhsh twn synorwn, gia th synexish twn dimerwn kai polymerwn sxesewn, me tropo poy den qa blaptei ta symferonta oydenos. Giati apo mia tetoia synergasia, se synqhkes eirhnhs, oloi bgainoyn kerdismenoi. Ayto epiqymoyme, ayto epidiwkoyme.

SOYRMELH: Se ayto poy elege o k. Stamatopoylos, prohgoymenws, yparxei mia prwtoboylia ths Kentrikhs Eyrwphs, einai h Germania, h Aystria kai h Italia kai einai kai para polles xwres, metajy twn opoiwn h Boylgaria kai h Albania ws omores. H Ellada skeptetai na metasxei s' ayth thn prwtoboylia ths Kentrikhs Eyrwphs, h gia logoys gewgrafikoys, qewrei oti den xreiazetai; Kai an den skeptetai na symmetasxei, tote, yp' ayth thn ennoia, ti parapanw qa prosferei h Ellada stis synomilies se balkaniko epipedo twn omorwn xwrwn, otan exei apo thn allh pleyra mia prwtoboylia ths Kentrikhs Eyrwphs, me th Germania, thn Aystria kai thn Italia; Kyriws th Germania.

REPPAS: H Ellada qa einai paroysa pantoy, ekei opoy prepei na einai paroysa kai sth sygkekrimenh diaskech exoyme logo kai qa laboyme meros se epipedo politikwn dieyqyntwn. Oson afora, twra, thn protash poy kaname gia thn anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn kai th diaskech poy epiqymoyme na organwsoyme kai prowqoyme ayth thn organwsh, symmetoxh se ayth den qa exoyn mono oi geitonikes xwres. Qa symmetexoyn kai eyrwpaikes xwres. Qa symmetexei o dieqnhs paragontas h ekproswpoi megalwn organismwn, giati to qema ayto qa antimetwpistei apo koinoy. Den eimaste emeis aytoi oi opoioi qa shkwsoyme to baros ths anasygkrothshs twn Balkaniwn, monoi mas. Emeis qa exoyme ena prwtagwnistiko rolo, alla qa synergastoyme me tis alles xwres, prokeimenoy na exoyme ta kalytera apotelesmata.

SOYRMELH: Qa th lete anasygkrothsh twn Balkaniwn h ths Notioanatolikhs Eyrwphs; Pws qa th lete; Pws qa to baloyme;

REPPAS: Miloyme gia thn idia perioxh. Den mporw na sas epibalw pws qa to gracete. Egw xrhsimopoiw fraseis h onomasies poy oles apodidoyn thn pragmatikothta.

SOYRMELH: Yparxoyn koines synenteyjeis Typoy toy k. Shmith me ton k. Gkeorgkiefski kai toy k. Shmith me ton k. Maiko;

REPPAS: Jerw oti ayrio to meshmeri, ligo prin h peripoy thn wra poy kanoyme edw thn kaqierwmenh politikh enhmerwsh, o k. Shmiths qa exei oloklhrwsei th synanthsh toy me ton k. Gkoytieres kai qa proboyn se dhlwseis. Jerw oti eixe programmatistei synanthsh me ton k. Gkeorgkiefski, epeidh o k. Maiko den eixe kat` arxhn apanthsei qetika oti qa episkefqei th Qessalonikh, gia na oristei h synanthsh ayth. Qa ginoyn oi dyo synanthseis. Pisteyw oti qa ektimhqei apo toys dyo andres, an prepei na proboyn se sxetikes dhlwseis. Nomizw oti mia syntomh dhlwsh ek meroys twn politikwn arxhgwn mporei na anamenetai apo esas. Den miloyme gia synenteyjh Typoy.

SOYRMELH: Sto qema ths synanthshs toy k. Shmith me ton k. Gkeorgkiefski kai epeidh anaferqhkate kai stis apoceis ths Neas Dhmokratias, yparxei qema na bgei kati sxetika me to onoma;

REPPAS: Den antimetwpizetai tetoio qema ayth thn periodo. To exoyme kanei safes apo thn arxh oti sto qema ayto h politikh poy akoloyqoyme einai ayth h opoia xarakthrizetai apo tis diadikasies toy OHE. Den yparxei otidhpote allo.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Epeidh exete pei oti den prepei na afhnoyme to xrono na pernaei, pws sxoliazete to gegonos oti akoma den exei apanthsei o k. Milosebits sthn protash twn "8" kai an h Ellada protiqetai epishmws na zhthsei apo to Milosebits na apanthsei sthn protash kai an h Ellada exei kapoia plhroforhsh sxetika me th stash ths Serbias sto qema ayto.

REPPAS: H Ellada, apo thn prwth stigmh me dhlwseis epishmwn ekproswpwn ths, kalese th gioygkoslabikh hgesia na mh xasei thn eykairia na antapokriqei se ayth thn protash kai na eynohsei thn amesh enarjh twn syzhthsewn. Pisteyoyme oti den prepei na xaqei allos xronos. Ayto einai se baros olwn, afoy einai se baros ths eirhnhs kai me ayth thn ennoia einai kai se baros ths Gioygkoslabias. Ara, qa prepei na antidrasei amesws h gioygkoslabikh hgesia kai malista qetika. Apo kei kai pera, den exoyme kapoies peraiterw plhrofories. Ayto to opoio gnwrizoyme einai oti oles oi pleyres qa hqelan na apagkistrwqoyn apo ayth thn katastash kai na pame se mia politikh lysh toy problhmatos, opoy qa diasfalizontai orismenoi stoxoi, oroi, proypoqeseis, opws exoyn apotypwqei me safhneia kai enargeia sth symfwnia twn oktw xwrwn tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

BITALHS: Sthn prwth Diabalkanikh poy egine stis arxes twn exqroprajiwn, den eixe pali prosklhqei h Ellada kai aplws eixe parei mia prosklhsh o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai eixe parastei. H prwth erwthsh einai: Ejetazetai h periptwsh na parastoyme ek neoy se ayth th Diabalkanikh sto Petersmpergk; Kai h deyterh, oti o k. Fiser periodeyse sthn perioxh gia na proetoimasei th Diabalkanikh. Einai enhmerwmenh h ellhnikh pleyra gi` ayth thn proetoimasia kai gia to ti qa syzhthqei;

REPPAS: Yparxei epikoinwnia, yparxei synennohsh dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy. H epikoinwnia ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs me thn kybernhsh h opoia askei kaqhkonta Proedroy ths E. E. einai, qa elega, adialeipth, einai kaqhmerinh. O Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn exei apolyth enhmerwsh gia tis ejelijeis aytes. Ayto to opoio sxoliazw einai, opws tote se ekeinh th Diaskech arxise h krish, elpizoyme se ayth th Diaskech na orioqethqei xronika to telos ths krishs. Makari na ginei ayto. Para to oti, opws eipe o Prwqypoyrgos sth dhlwsh poy ekane thn Paraskeyh, den prepei na eimaste ypermetra aisiodojoi, qa elega apo thn allh oti prepei taytoxronws na ergazomaste, oysiastika kai qetika, prokeimenoy na feroyme, oso ginetai pio syntoma, thn politikh kai eirhnikh lysh sthn krish ayth.

SOYRMELIDHS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an exei h kybernhsh opoiadhpote ejhghsh gia th syxnothta twn tromokratikwn epiqesewn ayth sygkekrimena thn periodo kai an protiqetai na parei kapoia metra symperilambanomenwn kai nomoqetikwn..

REPPAS: Nomoqetikes prwtoboylies den exei programmatisei na analabei h kybernhsh. Pisteyoyme oti ayta ta xtyphmata odhgoyn telikws se mia anhsyxia h opoia einai en merei dikaiologhmenh, doqentos oti h zwh sthn Ellada ejelissetai me ton kanoniko ryqmo ths. Aytoi oi opoioi apergazontai tetoia sxedia, ta empneontai kai ta qetoyn se efarmogh, telikws, mporei na pei kaneis oti einai skoteinoi kykloi, oti einai probokatores, oi opoioi epiqymoyn na anakocoyn thn poreia ths xwras kai thn proodo toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den qa to epityxoyn, giati pisteyw oti o ellhnikos laos, sto synolo toy, perifroyrei tis katakthseis toy. Pisteyw oti oi kinhseis aytes qa prepei na antimetwpizontai me megalh, bebaiws, prosoxh apo tis armodies yphresies ths xwras kai ayto ginetai. Oi armodies arxes enteinoyn thn prospaqeia toys. Apo thn allh, omws, den qa prepei na mas apoprosanatolizoyn. Den qa prepei, dhladh, na mas odhgoyn sto na bgazoyme ena symperasma gia thn eikona ths xwras, h opoia den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta. H pragmatikh katastash ths xwras einai diaforetikh kai den mporei na khlidwnetai kai na xarakthrizetai apo tetoies memonwmenes energeies, oi opoies exoyn ginei pio syxnes ton teleytaio kairo. Alla, sas eipa oti einai kapoioi, profanws ayth thn periodo, poy qeloyn na dhmioyrghsoyn problhmata sth xwra. Den qa toys epitrecoyme na petyxoyn to stoxo toys.

SOYRMELIDHS: Otan lete "kapoioi", poioys ennoeite;

REPPAS: An jerame poioi einai, den qa htan eleyqeroi. Qa eixan syllhfqei gia na logodothsoyn gia tis prajeis toys.

TSIABOS: Shmera to prwi eginan sobara epeisodia se stratopedo prosfygwn ths Prwhn Gioygkoslabikhs Dhmokratias twn Skopiwn. Yparxei eidhsh oti eginan symplokes metajy prosfygwn kai astynomikwn ths perioxhs. Prokeitai na parei h Ellada merikoys prosfyges gia na ektonwqei kapws h katastash;

REPPAS: Qema ypodoxhs prosfygwn sthn Ellada den yfistatai. Eipame apo thn arxh oti qa prepei oi prosfyges na parameinoyn, oso ginetai pio konta stis esties toys, gia na einai efikth kai eykolh h epanaprowqhsh toys sta spitia toys, sthn perioxh opoy zoysan epi xronia. H Ellada, to qema twn prosfygwn to antimetwpise me poly megalh ypeyqynothta, alla kai safhneia. Otan den diatypwqhke oloklhrwmeno sxedio sto plaisio ths E. E. qewrhsame ki emeis pws alles megales dynameis ypekfeygoyn apo thn ypoxrewsh poy exoyn na analaboyn ayto to kaqhkon, na anakoyfisoyn thn anqrwpinh dystyxia, to drama pollwn prosfygwn. Gnwrizete poly kala oti emeis exoyme prosferei poly megalh bohqeia ston tomea ayto, ths antimetwpishs anqrwpistikwn problhmatwn. Oso perna o kairos kai paramenoyn ekei xiliades prosfyges makria apo tis esties toys, antilambaneste pws ayjanontai kai oi piqanothtes na proklhqoyn tribes, entaseis stis sxeseis toys me tis topikes arxes. Gi` ayto akribws -kai aytos einai enas prosqetos logos- epiqymoyme kai to tonizoyme gia mia akomh fora, oti to syntomotero dynato prepei na breqei mia politikh lysh, h opoia metajy twn allwn qa problepei th syntomh epistrofh twn prosfygwn stis esties toys. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth ergazomaste.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H Ellada diamartyrhqhke sto NATO gia tis zhmies poy ypesth to ellhniko projeneio;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyme parei mia genikh qesh gia th symperifora ayth me ta tragika apotelesmata poy synepagetai. Oi zhmies sto ellhniko projeneio einai ylikes zhmies. Den exoyn kamia sxesh me tis poly megalyteres ylikes zhmies, poy exoyn ypostei alla ktiria, opws p. x. h kinezikh presbeia kai alloi stoxoi. Bebaiws, den exei kamia sxesh me to tragiko apotelesma na xanoyn aqwoi anqrwpoi th zwh toys. Emeis ayta ta qemata ta qetoyme, opws egine kai me thn prohgoymenh periptwsh ths epiqeshs enantion mias apostolhs mh kybernhtikhs organwshs, twn giatrwn toy kosmoy. Etsi kai sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh exoyme qesei to qema. Kai epishmainoyme pantote, otan syzhtoyme tetoia qemata, toys kindynoys oi opoioi elloxeyoyn, otan synexizetai ayth h epiqetikh, polemikh drasthriothta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Lete mono "ylikes zhmies". Dhladh eprepe na skotwqei kapoios;

REPPAS: Eidate loipon poso eystoxa einai ta symperasmata poy bgazete!

SOYRMELH: Epeidh anaferqhkate sto qema twn giatrwn toy kosmoy, qa hqela na rwthsw eseis jerete pws egine; Giati eixame meinei sto oti milhse me ton k. Solana dyo fores o k. Papandreoy kai oti toy eixe pei kai pali na to cajei to qema. Meinate se ayto to shmeio. Perimenate mia anafora apo toys giatroys toy kosmoy kai poy katalhjate eseis; Pws egine ayto;

REPPAS: Oi martyries poy exoyme -epanalambanw- einai apo anqrwpoys poy htan parontes ekei, melh ths omadas twn giatrwn toy kosmoy. H ereyna poy exei kanei to NATO, mexri ayth th stigmh poy miloyme, odhgei to NATO sto symperasma oti den exei opoiadhpote emplokh se ayth thn energeia. Sto shmeio ayto eimaste twra.

Sas eyxaristw.


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