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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-09-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Septembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

* To aeroplano, me tis soroys twn eji qymatwn toy xqesinoy tragikoy symbantos, eprokeito na anaxwrhsei apo to Boykoyresti stis 12.45. Anamenetai sthn Aqhna, sto Anatoliko Aerodromio, peripoy se miamish wra, stis 2.30 m. m. Oi soroi qa metaferqoyn sthn ekklhsia toy Agioy Kwnstantinoy, sth Glyfada, opoy qa calei trisagio. Qa einai parwn o Prwqypoyrgos, melh ths kybernhshs kai alloi paragontes. Sth synexeia, oi soroi qa metaferqoyn sto nekrotomeio, sto Goydi.

Sto Boykoyresti paramenei o eikonolhpths ths ERT k. Poylos, o opoios einai barytata traymatismenos kai kriqhke oti den prepei na metaferqei. O k. Papadopoylos, synergaths toy Giannoy Kranidiwth, o opoios einai epishs traymatismenos, kriqhke apo toys giatroys poy symmetexoyn sthn apostolh kai apo tis prwtes wres exoyn metabei sto Boykoyresti, oti prepei na metaferqei sthn Ellada. Qa erqei me to deytero aeroplano, sto opoio epibainoyn kai oi synadelfoi sas. Xreiazetai mia analogh proetoimasia. Ayth einai h apofash twn giatrwn.

Oi empeirognwmones poy exoyn metabei sto Boykoyresti, mazi me toys empeirognwmones poy exei orisei h roymanikh kybernhsh, apofasisthke na sygkrothsoyn, apo koinoy, mia epitroph, h opoia arxise amesws thn ereyna gia na diapistwqoyn ta aitia kai oi synqhkes aytoy toy tragikoy symbantos. Exei diataxqei apo thn pleyra ths taktikhs dikaiosynhs elegxos. O Prwqypoyrgos exei dwsei entolh, o elegxos, o opoios qa ginei gia na diapistwqoyn ta akribh aitia ayths ths tragwdias, na einai oysiastikos, se baqos, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme poioi exoyn eyqynh. Prokeimenoy na fqasoyme s` ayto to apotelesma, zhthqhke na klhqoyn kai na laboyn meros s` aytes tis ereynes oi pleon katallhloi, oi pleon empeiroi, opoioi mporoyn -akomh kai apo to ejwteriko- exontas eidikes gnwseis kai katallhlh empeiria, na prosferoyn bohqeia s` ayto to ergo.

* Oson afora thn ejelijh sto allo metwpo, twn synepeiwn toy seismoy, o telikos apologismos, einai o ejhs: Apo ta swstika synergeia anasyrqhkan synolika 85 polites zwntanoi kai 115 nekroi. Aytos fainetai oti einai o telikos apologismos. Ayth thn wra fainetai oti exei oloklhrwqei aytos o qliberos kyklos. Ta swstika synergeia den exoyn, opws plhroforoymai, entopisei alloys egklwbismenoys mesa sta xalasmata. Ara, mporoyme na poyme oti h apostolh toys oloklhrwnetai se ayto to shmeio.

* Gia ta qemata ths yposthrijhs twn seismoplhktwn h katastash exei ws ejhs: H trofodosia einai kanonikh. H epixorhghsh toy ektaktoy bohqhmatos sto dhmo Menidioy, epeidh ekei parathrhqhkan problhmata, fainetai pws ginetai me kanoniko ryqmo. Oi texnikes yphresies asxoloyntai me th dienergeia toy telikoy, deyterobaqmioy, opws onomazetai, elegxoy, gia thn katallhlothta twn ktiriwn, ta opoia sto plaisio toy prwtoy elegxoy exoyn xarakthristei ws kokkina h ws kitrina. Epishs, oi armodies texnikes yphresies toy YPEXWDE, se synennohsh me tis topikes arxes, poy se treis periptwseis Dhmwn exoyn ypodeijei katallhloys xwroys, proetoimazoyn thn ypodomh gia th dhmioyrgia twn kataylismwn poy qa dexqoyn aytoys, oi opoioi den qa katorqwsoyn na ejasfalisoyn mia kanonikh katoikia gia na stegastoyn, ajiopoiwntas ta metra ths epidothshs toy enoikioy kai sygkatoikhshs poy exoyme ejaggeilei. Emeis prepei na eimaste pronohtikoi kai gi` ayto etoimazoyme ayth thn ypodomh. Elpizoyme, ta metra ayta na ajiopoihqoyn apo to synolo twn plhgentwn. Einai fysiko, bebaiws, na dhmioyrghqei problhma, giati oi diaqesimes katoikies isws den einai toses, wste na ikanopoihsoyn apolytws th zhthsh. Ayto to opoio mporoyme na poyme akomh einai oti h synergasia twn texnikwn yphresiwn me tis topikes yphresies, einai synexhs gia thn ejasfalish twn kanonwn dhmosias ygieinhs stoys xwroys opoy exoyn stegastei oi seismoplhktoi. Epiqymoyme na kleisei aytos o prwtos kyklos to poly se dyo mhnes. Se oktw ebdomades, opws eipame apo thn arxh, pisteyoyme oti qa exoyme katorqwsei na mhn yparxoyn pia skhnes. S` ayth thn kateyqynsh ergazomaste kai pisteyw oti qa petyxoyme ayto to stoxo.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWSTANTHS: Legetai -bebaia den einai apolyto, den exoyme plhrh stoixeia- oti to FALCON ayto, to epairne o enas ypoyrgos meta ton allon, xwris na ginetai h aparaithth synthrhsh. Ti apantate eseis gi` ayth thn alogisth xrhsh, xwris thn aparaithth synthrhsh;

REPPAS: Oydeis to leei ayto, egkyrws kai epishmws. Parakalw, epeidh akribws eimaste mprosta se ena tragiko symban, na mhn yioqetoyme fhmes h logoys, poy den exoyn thn analogh tekmhriwsh. Oi eidikoi poy exoyn epilhfqei, qa ereynhsoyn ta aitia toy dystyxhmatos, qa fwtisoyn thn katastash kai qa gnwrizoyme pws exoyn ta pragmata. To aeroplano ayto, xrhsimopoieitai apo ton Prwqypoyrgo, ta melh ths kybernhshs kai alloys kratikoys paragontes. Gnwrizete poly kala oti ginontai oi analoges frontides. An h frontida ayth htan plhrhs, qa to poyn oi eidikoi. Otan oloklhrwqei h ereyna, qa to gnwrizoyme kai emeis. Alla, mexri na fqasoyme s` ayto to shmeio, parakalw na apofygoyme eikasies kai ypoqeseis, oi opoies den nomizw oti bohqoyn se tipota. Antiqetws, qa elega, dhmioyrgoyn sygxysh, poly perissotero -epanalambanw- poy twra xeirizomaste mia tragikh ypoqesh.

PAPAXRHSTOS: Pro mhnwn, to idio aeroplano, me ton G. Kranidiwth, pragmatopoihse anagkastikh prosgeiwsh sthn kentrikh Asia. To erwthma einai, ean h kybernhsh gnwrizei to logo gia ton opoion anagkasthke tote to aeroplano na kanei aytoy toy eidoys thn prosgeiwsh.

REPPAS: Kata kairoys kai ayto to aeroplano, opws symbainei kai me alla aeroplana, paroysiase texnika problhmata, ta opoia antimetwpisthkan. Yparxei pantote, meta ton elegxo poy ginetai, h diabebaiwsh twn armodiwn yphresiwn gia thn ploimothta toy aeroplanoy, gia thn katallhlothta toy, prokeimenoy na xrhsimopoihqei gia pthseis. Ayta ta peristatika yparxoyn. Metajy aytwn einai kai to sygkekrimeno, sto opoio anaferqhkate. Pantote s` aytes tis periptwseis ginontai ereynes. H texnikh yphresia poy exei analabei thn yposthrijh toy aeroskafoys, einai ayth h opoia me to ergo ths prosferei kai thn eggyhsh gia thn katallhlothta toy. Den yparxoyn kapoioi alloi, oi opoioi na einai perissotero eidikoi. Yparxei eidikh yphresia kai ayth einai poy dinei thn adeia gia th xrhsimopoihsh toy aeroskafoys.

GKOGKAS: Epeidh milhsate, k. Ypoyrge, prohgoymenws gia fhmes. Yparxoyn egkyres plhrofories oti o armodios dieyqynths ths asfaleias pthsewn eixe syntajei ena report to opoio eixe aposteilei sthn Yphresia Politikhs Aeroporias, prin apo ena xrono kai symfwna me to opoio proeidopoioyse oti to aeroplano ayto qa paroysiasei shmantikotata problhmata. Kai malista ayto to qema ths asfaleias twn pthsewn toy prwqypoyrgikoy aeroskafoys eixe erqei sth Boylh me erwthsh toy boyleyth k. Giwrgoy Karatzaferh. Qa hqela na moy peite an to gnwrizete ayto kai poies htan oi energeies ths kybernhshs.

REPPAS: Qa epanalabw tis apanthseis poy edwsa prin. Yparxei texnikh yphresia poy yposthrizei ayto to aeroskafos. Ayth h yphresia eggyatai thn katallhlothta, thn ploimothta toy, opws leme. Den fantazomai na dexeste oti o Prwqypoyrgos (poy exei xrhsimopoihsei kat' epanalhch ayto to aeroskafos) kai alla melh ths kybernhshs xrhsimopoioysan to aeroskafos, ypociazomenoi oti diatrexoyn kindyno. Kaqe allo. Alla bebaiws ayth thn wra den prokeitai egw na ekdwsw kapoio teliko texniko porisma. Ayto apotelei antikeimeno ereynas. Shmeiwnw kai pali -kai exw logoys poy to kanw- oti o Prwqypoyrgos zhthse, o elegxos poy qa ginei na einai se baqos, h ereyna na einai oysiastikh kai na apodoqoyn eyqynes. Giati ws fainetai yparxoyn eyqynes.

GKOGKAS: Qa apodoqoyn oi eyqynes oso ychla kai an stekontai oi ypeyqynoi;

REPPAS: An yparxoyn eyqynes, einai megales. Shmasia den exei an kapoios brisketai chlotera h xamhlotera. Shmasia exei an exei megales h mikres eyqynes.

MOYRTZHS: Yparxoyn fhmes oti to proedriko FALCON paroysiaze syxna problhmata sto systhma pedhshs kai ston aytomato piloto. Ayta ta problhmata einai katagegrammena; Oi pilotoi exoyn dwsei sxetikes ekqeseis;

REPPAS: Epibebaiwsa ena peristatiko sto opoio anaferqhke o k. Papaxrhstos. Aytoi oi opoioi parakoloyqoyn th leitoyrgia toy aeroskafoys, asfalws gnwrizoyn kai alla tetoia peristatika. Einai, omws, poly prowro egw, ws mh eidikos, na milhsw me th glwssa twn texnikwn. Ayto poy qa kanw einai na kalesw kai esas na perimenoyme na oloklhrwqoyn oi ereynes. Pisteyoyme -ayto epiqymoyme- oti ayto qa ginei to syntomotero dynaton. Ola ayta ta stoixeia sta opoia anafereste kai eseis kai oi synadelfoi sas einai katagegrammena. Asfalws yparxoyn sto fakelo poy afora to sygkekrimeno aeroskafos kai qa apotelesoyn antikeimeno ereynas kai meleths apo aytoys poy exoyn epwmistei ayto to kaqhkon. Gi' ayto, loipon, sas kalw na apofygoyme, aytes tis prwtes wres, opoiadhpote proseggish, h opoia isws odhghsei se lanqasmena symperasmata.

MOYRTZHS: Mporeite na mas peite poia einai ta paromoia peristatika me ekeina ths anagkastikhs prosgeiwshs sth Kentrikh Asia;

REPPAS: Eipa oti, opws alla aeroplana paroysiazoyn kata kairoys problhmata etsi kai to sygkekrimeno. Den apotelei ejairesh. Yphrjan kata kairoys blabes oi opoies eixan epishmanqei kai eixan apokatastaqei.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela na mas peite an einai synhqismeno na synodeyei to aeroplano mhxanikos se kaqe pthsh kai poia einai h hlikia toy aeroskafoys.

REPPAS: As mhn syzhthsoyme twra eidika qemata poy aforoyn thn taytothta toy aeroskafoys. To aeroskafos ayto to promhqeythke h xwra mas sto plaisio enos prohgoymenoy ejoplistikoy programmatos, kai eidikotera sto plaisio twn antistaqmistikwn wfelhmatwn, thn prohgoymenh dekaetia. Panta yparxei mhxanikos sto aeroskafos, o opoios syntajideyei me toys kybernhtes kai to ypoloipo plhrwma kai epimeleitai akribws ths kalhs leitoyrgias ths mhxanhs toy aeroskafoys.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, prin apo ayth thn pthsh toy sygkekrimenoy aeroskafoys xqes to brady, yphrje apo thn texnikh yphresia ayth h ereyna poy ginetai kai doqhke to O. K. eggrafws oti to aeroskafos plhroi tis proypoqeseis gia na petajei; Kai ena deytero erwthma: Otan lete megales eyqynes, ennoeite eyqynes kai peran ths texnikhs yphresias; Ennoeite kai politikes eyqynes;

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola den yphrxe periptwsh to aeroplano -opws kai kaqe aeroplano- na xrhsimopoihqei, an h texnikh yphresia poy to parakoloyqei den eixe dwsei thn egkrish ths. Ayto synebh.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Ara jekiname me ena laqos k. Ypoyrge, efoson doqhke h egkrish. Etsi den einai;

REPPAS: Ola ayta, epanalambanw, qa mporoyme me kathgorhmatiko tropo na ta symperanoyme, afoy oloklhrwqei h ereyna. As mhn to kanoyme twra. Qa to kanoyme tote. Yparxoyn periptwseis poy o texnikos elegxos o opoios dienergeitai, katalhgei se ena O. K., alla ek twn ysterwn dhmioyrgoyntai h prokyptoyn problhmata gia logoys astaqmhtoys h aprobleptoys. Ayta ola, omws, mono me ypoqeseis mporoyme na ta syzhtoyme. Egw sas kalw gi' ayto to tragiko qema na apofygoyme na kanoyme ypoqeseis. Oi eyqynes asfalws, an apodeixqei oti to aeroplano den htan katallhla proetoimasmeno gia na xrhsimopoihqei se mia tetoia pthsh, einai megales. Alla ayto prepei na apodeixqei, giati ws fainetai, dhmioyrghqhke kapoio problhma sto aeroplano. Twra an yphrje kapoios ejwgenhs paragontas o opoios htan toso kaqoristikos kai ephrease pros to dysmenestero thn pthsh kai ayto bebaiws ereynatai. Fainetai, omws, pws den htan aytos o kaqoristikos paragontas gia th moiraia ayth pthsh.

KARGOYDH: Eipate oti qa diejaxqei aysthrotatos elegxos kai zhthsate kai th symbolh jenwn empeirognwmonwn. Exete, hdh, apo thn prwth ereyna, entopisei kati pera apo ta synhqh...;

REPPAS: Den exei oloklhrwqei h prwth ereyna. Oi empeirognwmones poy exoyn metabei sto Boykoyresti -treis ths Politikhs Aeroporias kai dyo ths Polemikhs Aeroporias- mazi me empeirognwmones poy exei orisei h roymanikh kybernhsh, apartizoyn mia epitroph, h opoia, ayth thn wra, epididetai se ayto to ergo. Eimaste akomh sthn arxh ths ereynas. Ara, einai poly prowro na poyme kati to sygkekrimeno.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Otan lete ereyna ennoeite ayth poy diejagetai sth Roymania h prokeitai na diejaxqei kai sthn Aqhna;

REPPAS: Ennooyme ayth poy diejagetai apo toys empeirognwmones poy exoyn metabei sth Roymania. Kai bebaiws, ennooyme -kai eimai safhs s` ayto- oti efoson kriqei oti prepei na enisxyqei h epitroph kai me alla stelexh, apo alles xwres poy exoyn empeiria kai gnwsh gyrw apo ayta ta qemata, h entolh poy exei doqei einai na ginei kai ayto, prokeimenoy na gnwrizoyme pws akribws eixame ayth thn katalhjh. Den qa perioristoyme, dhladh, ston ariqmo twn empeirognwmonwn poy exoyn hdh analabei ayto to ergo. An kriqei oti prepei na xrhsimopoihqoyn kai alloi, apofash mas einai na klhqoyn amesws kai na analaboyn to sygkekrimeno ergo.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Peran ths artiothtas toy texnikoy elegxoy poy eixe ginei prin apogeiwqei to aeroplano, yphrxe kai kapoia emfanhs texnikh blabh;

REPPAS: Qelete na sas dwsw kapoia apanthsh gia texniko qema. Sas exw, hdh, pei oti prepei na apofygoyme ayth th syzhthsh. Den mporoyme na to kanoyme ayto. Den epitrepetai na to kanoyme.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Yphrjan orismena dhmosieymata efhmeridwn, alla kai radiofwnikoi staqmoi metedwsan oti o Prwqypoyrgos ton teleytaio kairo apefeyge na xrhsimopoiei to FALCON. Alhqeyei;

REPPAS: Antiqetws, o Prwqypoyrgos to xrhsimopoihse prosfata. Gnwrizete allwste, oti gia na metabei sto Saragebo, enw briskotan sthn Krhth, xrhsimopoihse ayto to aeroskafos. Me to idio aeroskafos metebh, akomh pio prosfata, sth Flwrina gia tis ekdhlwseis stis Prespes.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: O Prwqypoyrgos qa to janaxrhsimopoihsei; Kai an oxi ti qa to kanoyn;

REPPAS: O elegxos o opoios qa ginei sto aeroskafos, peran ths ereynas poy ginetai gia tis synqhkes toy dystyxhmatos, qa katalhjei kai se ena porisma, gia to an to aeroskafos einai katallhlo na xrhsimopoieitai. Prin exoyme ayth thn ejetash kai thn apofash ths armodias yphresias, den mporoyme na poyme otidhpote. An to aeroskafos -opws opoiodhpote aeroskafos- einai katallhlo, qa xrhsimopoihqei. Alla, kai ayto einai pros ejetash, h opoia den exei ginei akomh. Ara den mporoyme na gnwrizoyme poia einai h tyxh aytoy toy aeroskafoys, poio einai to mellon toy.

MIXAHL: Yparxei h dynatothta na erqei to aeroskafos sthn Aqhna; Ypoqetw oti, epeidh oi pilotoi kataferan na to prosgeiwsoyn, to aeroplano qa mporoyse, me kapoion tropo, na petajei pros thn Aqhna.

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati, to opoio qa apofasisoyn oi texnikoi oi opoioi qa asxolhqoyn me to qema. Ektos apo toys empeirognwmones poy ereynoyn tis synqhkes katw apo tis opoies egine to dystyxhma, yparxoyn texnikoi, oi opoioi asxoloyntai me ton elegxo toy aeroskafoys kai thn ploimothta toy. Den einai dynato na apofasistei pthsh toy aeroskafoys prin perasei ena krisimo xroniko diasthma, sto opoio afoy kanoyn ton aparaithto elegxo oi armodioi, qa apofanqoyn me kathgorhmatiko tropo an to aeroskafos einai katallhlo na ektelesei pthsh.

FILHS: H xqesinh plhroforia gia "keno aeros" epibebaiwnetai shmera;

REPPAS: Oi prwtes plhrofories poy metadoqhkan xqes, proerxontai apo epibates toy aeroskafoys, oi opoioi profanws aneferan to symptwma, ayto poy oi idioi ezhsan, ayto poy enoiwsan. Oti apo ena orismeno ycos, opoy petoyse to aeroplano, breqhkan mesa se liga deyterolepta, se ena poly xamhlotero. Twra, to giati synebh ayto, einai qema poy ereynoyn oi empeirognwmones. Ayth h anafora sto symptwma edwse thn entypwsh oti h metabash apo ena ychlotero epipedo se ena poly xamhlotero, me ayton ton astrapiaio tropo, ofeiletai se kapoio keno aeros. Ayth htan h prwth skech poy ekanan oi epibainontes. Alla, bebaiws, aytoi poy qa mas poyn poly sygkekrimena poia htan ta aitia toy dystyxhmatos, einai oi texnikoi, oi opoioi ereynoyn to qema.

FILHS: Oi pilotoi ti exoyn kataqesei gia to qema;

REPPAS: Den gnwrizw an exoyn oloklhrwsei thn kataqesh toys. En pash periptwsei, gnwrizete oti prin oloklhrwqei aytos o kyklos, den einai dynaton, h armodia epitroph na dwsei sth dhmosiothta ta ylika ta opoia syllegei.

Eyxaristw poly.


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