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Greek Government Press Briefing, 99-09-20

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 20 Septembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas:

* O Prwqypoyrgos, se mia wra, qa episkefqei to Ilion kai th Fylh kai qa syzhthsei me toys topikoys paragontes kai toys plhgentes gia ta problhmata, ta opoia antimetwpizoyn. Qa exei th dynatothta na episkefqei kai sxoleio, to opoio exei ypostei zhmies, gia na dei th diadikasia apokatastashs kai epanaleitoyrgias toy ktirioy. Bebaiws, qa probei se sxetikes dhlwseis.

* To apogeyma, stis 6.30, qa synedriasei to diypoyrgiko organo, h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me dieyrymenh synqesh. Antikeimeno syzhthshs einai oi seismoi kai ta problhmata poy exoyn dhmioyrghqei.

* Ayrio, to apogeyma, qa exei synergasia me thn Ypoyrgo Politismoy El. Papazwh kai argotera, qa dexqei to Dioikhth toy IKA.

* Thn Tetarth, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synanthsh kai synergasia gia to qema twn seismwn me toys Nomarxes ths Perifereias Attikhs kai thn Ektelestikh Grammateia ths Topikhs Enwshs Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn Attikhs. To apogeyma, stis 6, qa exei synergasia me thn Ektelestikh Grammateia toy PASOK, dhladh, to Ektelestiko Grafeio kai toys Grammateis twn tomewn toy Kinhmatos, poy apartizoyn thn Ektelestikh Grammateia.

* Thn Pempth, sth 1 to meshmeri, exei programmatisei synanthsh me ekproswpoys biotexnwn kai epaggelmatiwn poy exoyn plhgei apo ton prosfato seismo. Qa milhsei, dhladh, me biotexnes kai epaggelmaties poy oi epixeirhseis toys briskontai sthn plhgeisa perioxh kai exoyn ypostei polles zhmies. Argotera, stis 7 m. m., qa ginei h ej anabolhs synergasia toy me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ygeias gia qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy.

* Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10 to prwi, exoyme thn, ej anabolhs, synedriash toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, me kyrio qema thn oikonomikh politikh.

* Ayrio, stis 12 to meshmeri, qa ginei h orkwmosia toy neoy Ypoyrgoy Anaplhrwth Ejwterikwn Xrhstoy Rokofylloy, boyleyth Aitwloakarnanias. (Se anejarthto Deltio dianemetai to biografiko shmeiwma toy k. Rokofylloy.)

* H khdeia toy adikoxamenoy Panagiwth Poyloy ginetai, shmera, stis 4 m. m., sthn Paiania. Gia mia akomh fora ekfrazoyme stoys oikeioys, syggeneis kai filoys toy ta qerma syllyphthria mas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Toso xqes, oso kai shmera, yparxei seira dhmosieymatwn kai dhlwseis kratikwn ajiwmatoyxwn, opws o Dioikhths ths Eqnikhs Trapezas, o Dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados, oi opoioi qetoyn ena qema gyrw apo to Xrhmatisthrio. Lene ston kosmo: Prosejte gia to pws ependyete k. lp.. To erwthma poy tiqetai einai to ejhs: Kata th gnwmh ths kybernhshs, giati xreiazetai ayth h "noyqesia"; Afoy to Xrhmatisthrio einai mia diadikasia doynai-labein, sto plaisio ths eleyqerhs agoras, giati eprepe na paremboyn kai na proeidopoihsoyn gia tyxon kindynoys;

REPPAS: To Xrhmatisthrio exei th dikh toy aytonomh leitoyrgia. Oydepote exoyme parembei, oyte prokeitai na paremboyme. Ayto den shmainei oti h Politeia den exei endiaferon gia th diasfalish olwn twn eggyhsewn, prokeimenoy na exoyme diafaneia kai ygih leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Allwste, o Proedros toy Xrhmatisthrioy orizetai apo thn kybernhsh. Ta metra poy exei labei h kybernhsh einai shmantika. Pantote yparxoyn periqwria na analaboyme nees prwtoboylies, na paroyme nea metra, wste na dhmioyrghsoyme oles ekeines tis dikleides, oi opoies qa qwrakisoyn to Xrhmatisthrio kai qa to katasthsoyn ena qesmo, o opoios symballei sthn anaptyjh, periqwriopoiwntas ola ekeina ta fainomena ta opoia mporei na blacoyn kai to Xrhmatisthrio kai thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Sto plaisio ayto exoyn ginei dhlwseis kybernhtikwn kai allwn ajiwmatoyxwn. Oi prwtoboylies poy analambanontai ayth thn periodo kinoyntai se dyo epipeda: To ena einai nomoqetiko, to allo dioikhtiko. Se nomoqetiko epipedo, me thn eykairia ths syzhthshs sxetikoy nomosxedioy poy afora thn EYDAP, problepontai diatajeis, oi opoies odhgoyn se peraiterw diafaneia, afoy ypoxrewnoyn toys megalometoxoys na dhlwnoyn tis synallages toys. Ayth thn periodo -shmera, ayriotis epomenes hmeres- o Proedros toy Xrhmatisthrioy qa probei se sxetikes dhlwseis, me stoxo th beltiwsh ths leitoyrgias toy Xrhmatisthrioy, prokeimenoy na diasfalisoyme th megisth dynath diafaneia. Prepei kai oi megalometoxoi, alla kai oi etaireies poy einai eishgmenes sto Xrhmatisthrio na dhlwnoyn, apolytws, tis synallages poy toys aforoyn, wste oloi na gnwrizoyn pws leitoyrgei to Xrhmatisthrio. Pisteyoyme oti aytos o kanonas diafaneias, symballei akomh perissotero sthn ygih leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy.

MIXAHL: Otan, omws, o Prwqypoyrgos rwthqhke sth DEQ gia to rolo toy Xrhmatisthrioy, den eixe apodexqei thn ektimhsh oti apotelei enan apo toys pylwnes ths oikonomikhs anaptyjhs. Qa hqela, loipon, na sas qesw to erwthma: Ektimate oti olh ayth h drasthriothta gyrw apo to Xrhmatisthrio einai eis baros allwn tomewn oikonomikhs drasthriothtas, stoys opoioys h kybernhsh exei parathrhsei kaqysterhseis h endexomenws kai adynamia leitoyrgias;

REPPAS: Mhn perimenete na syzhthsoyme edw, me tetoio tropo, wste na ajiologhsoyme to Xrhmatisthrio h na to entajoyme sthn koinwnikh kai oikonomikh domh ths koinwnias mas. Ayto to opoio einai bebaio einai oti h epityxhs oikonomikh politikh poy exoyme akoloyqhsei ta teleytaia xronia kai ta poly qetika apotelesmata, ta opoia exei epiferei ayth h oikonomikh politikh, exoyn thn antanaklash toys kai sto Xrhmatisthrio. H leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy exei eyqews kai amesws ephreastei apo ta poly qetika apotelesmata ths oikonomikhs politikhs mas. Me ayth thn ennoia, mporei na pei kaneis, oti enw apo th mia trofodoteitai apo thn oikonomikh politikh mas -giati to klima empistosynhs pros thn ellhnikh oikonomia, asfalws apotelei ton akrogwniaio liqo, wste na leitoyrgei swsta to Xrhmatisthrio kai na exei ayth th qetikh roph- apo thn allh to idio to Xrhmatisthrio symballei peraiterw, dinei mia wqhsh enisxytikh, sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh ths xwras, afoy dinei th dynatothta stoys epixeirhmaties na antloyn ygieis oikonomikoys poroys, apeyqeias, opws epishs dinei th dynatothta se polites na symmetexoyn, blepontas ayth thn parembash sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy, kai na apokomizoyn kerdh. Ola ayta, pisteyw, oti qa prepei na ta doyme me cyxraimo tropo. Prepei aytoi oi opoioi exoyn symmetoxh stis leitoyrgies toy Xrhmatisthrioy na einai gnwstes, twn kanonwn, basei twn opoiwn leitoyrgei to Xrhmatisthrio kai, bebaiws, prepei na einai cyxraimoi. To Xrhmatisthrio akoloyqei thn poreia toy. Emeis, den exoyme tipota allo na poyme, prokeimenoy na ephreasoyme thn poreia ayth pros th mia h thn allh kateyqynsh. Ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme -kai ayto kanoyme- einai na pairnoyme prwtoboylies, wste na ejasfalizoyme, kaqe fora, th megisth dynath diafaneia, wste h leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy na exei plhrothta ajiopistias. Ayth einai h dikh mas epidiwjh. Aytos einai o dikos mas rolos.

PARIS: Epeidh h kybernhsh prosdoka dyo h tessera disekatommyria (moy diafeygei akribws to noymero), ara, prosblepei se kapoia kalh poreia, opws to eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos sth Qessalonikh. Oi trapezites mazi me ton k. Papadhmo kai ton k. Papantwnioy, se koinh synenteyjh, sthn oysia yponooyn oti ayth h ysteria twn ependytwn den einai kati kalo. O k. Papadhmos, malista, epaneilhmmena exei milhsei gia anantistoixia twn timwn twn metoxwn me tis oikonomikes dynatothtes twn epixeirhsewn. Ayth h ysteria anhsyxei thn kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Den qa yioqethsw toys xarakthrismoys sas peri ysterias. Kai bebaiws, den prokeitai na probw se dikoys moy xarakthrismoys. To Xrhmatisthrio leitoyrgei aytonoma. H anodos poy exei parathrhqei, ofeiletai sthn oikonomikh anaptyjh poy exoyme epityxei ta teleytaia xronia sthn Ellada. Pisteyw oti to qetiko apotelesma ths oikonomikhs politikhs mas antanakla sth leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Apo ekei kai pera, oi paragontes oi opoioi exoyn amesh h emmesh sxesh me th leitoyrgia toy Xrhmatisthrioy diatypwnoyn tis apoceis toys, oi opoies pantote parakoloyqoyntai me endiaferon kai prepei na ginontai sebastes. Alla, bebaiws, to Xrhmatisthrio, anhkei s` aytoys poy symmetexoyn kai dinoyn ayth thn kateyqynsh. Oloi prepei na akoygontai, idiaiterws oi anqrwpoi poy exoyn eidikes gnwseis, opws einai o dioikhths ths Trapezas ths Ellados. Ton teleytaio logo, omws, ton exoyn oi ependytes, ton exoyn oi metoxoi kai oi epixeirhmaties poy oi epixeirhseis toys exoyn eisaxqei sto Xrhmatisthrio.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Xqes, eidame kybernhtikes diafhmiseis se olo ton Typo poy elegan "qa petyxoyme". Se ti apeblepe ayth h plhrwmenh diafhmish;

REPPAS: Sthn enhmerwsh twn politwn gia ta metra poy exei ejaggeilei h kybernhsh. Htan mia anakoinwsh, mia kataxwrhsh, poy exei skopo na bohqhsei aytoys poy dikaioyntai na ajiopoihsoyn ayta ta metra, na enhmerwqoyn kalytera gia to pws qa to epityxoyn. Pisteyw oti gia prwth fora, me tetoio safh, sygkrothmeno kai plhrh tropo, dhmosieyontai ta metra poy exei ejaggeilei h kybernhsh. Oi seismopaqeis xreiazontai ayth thn enhmerwtikh bohqeia, apo th dikh mas pleyra, prokeimenoy na ajiopoihsoyn ayta ta metra. Gnwrizoyn, twra, ti einai ayto poy afora kaqenan apo aytoys poy exoyn plhgei, analogws ths idiothtas kai ths kathgorias toy. Gnwrizoyn poy prepei na apeyqynqoyn, gnwrizoyn ti proypoqeseis prepei na ejasfalisoyn, prokeimenoy na ajiopoihsoyn ayta ta metra. Den exoyme kanena logo na epidoqoyme se tetoies kataxwrhseis, mono kai mono gia na dhmioyrghsoyme entypwseis yper ths kybernhshs. H entypwsh gia thn kybernhsh dhmioyrgeitai apo tis apofaseis poy exei labei, se prwto epipedo, kai deytereyontws, apo thn efarmogh twn apofasewn aytwn. Ara, loipon, moy kanei entypwsh h kathgoria poy apeyqynetai apo thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh se ena pedio gia to opoio, opws exw pei, den yparxei apoqema kommatismoy. Eipa tis prohgoymenes hmeres, oti aytes oi proklhseis h oi kathgories ths N. D. qa meinoyn anapanthtes apo th dikh mas pleyra. Den mas aforoyn. Den mas endiaferei aytos o mikrokosmos twn kommatwn poy antiparatiqentai, thn wra poy polloi sympolites mas dokimazontai apo mia krish poy toys exei plhjei. Emas mas endiaferei na bohqhsoyme toys sympolites mas na apokthsoyn grhgora to xamogelo toys, na niwqoyn asfaleia kai aytopepoiqhsh, kaqws qa blepoyn oti ta problhmata apo ta opoia shmera dokimazontai, antimetwpizontai kai epilyontai, to syntomotero dynato kai me ton kalytero tropo. Ayth einai h dikh mas epidiwjh. Den prokeitai na asxolhqoyme me otidhpote allo mporei na mas bgalei apo ayto to dromo. Ayto prepei na einai safes.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta ta metra, den ta eixate toixokollhsei ejw apo tis Nomarxies, ejw apo ta dhmarxeia; Den ta eixate dwsei ston Typo jana kai eixan dhmosieyqei;

REPPAS: Ta metra ayta einai anagkaio na anakoinwqoyn pali kai pali. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sta metra ayta perilambanontai, me poly megalh ejeidikeysh, ola ekeina poy oi armodioi ypoyrgoi exoyn ejaggeilei, kaqenas gia to diko toy tomea. Gia prwth fora, ola ayta ta metra emfanizontai sygkentrwmena. Anaferontai oi yphresies, dhmosieyontai ta thlefwna, prokeimenoy kaqe poliths, poy exei dikaiwma na ajiopoihsei ayta ta metra, na gnwrizei ti prepei na kanei. Einai mia xrhsimh kataxwrhsh. Mh dinete allh diastash. Den th dwsame emeis ayth th diastash. Sas parakalw, mhn to kanete kai eseis. Opoioi epixeiroyn na dhmioyrghsoyn mia oionei politikh polwsh me tetoia ylika, pisteyw oti exoyn apotyxei oiktra sto sxediasmo toys. Giati paizoyn en oy paiktois. Emeis den prokeitai na dwsoyme synexeia s` ayth thn antiparaqesh. To mono poy mas endiaferei einai na anametrhqoyme me ta problhmata kai na ta lysoyme. Oxi na anametrhqoyme me th N. D. kai ta alla kommata, me aformh ta problhmata ayta. Den mas endiaferei ayth h antiparaqesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poso kostise ayth h kampania;

REPPAS: Qa exete kai gi` ayto leptomerh stoixeia. Otan oloklhrwqei h kampania, otan ta parastatika stoixeia katartistoyn kai ayta qa einai sth diaqesh sas. Ola ginontai me apolyth diafaneia. Sas parakalw, mh synthreite ayth th syzhthsh. Einai qlibero.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa mas peite poso kostise;

REPPAS: Den jerw an ta synarmodia ypoyrgeia exoyn proxwrhsei sthn ejoflhsh pros tis diafhmistikes etairies, poy exoyn analabei ayth thn enhmerwtikh kampania h pros ta MME poy th filojenhsan. Einai kati, omws, poy einai bebaio oti qa to maqoyme. Qa einai sth diaqesh sas. Mh synthreite -epanalambanw- mia syzhthsh toso axarh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote qa mas peite;

REPPAS: Ayrio, meqayrio, antimeqayrio. Einai kati poy qa to plhroforhqeite me kaqe leptomereia. Ta panta einai eykolo na ta plhroforhqeite. Kai emeis eimaste oi prwtoi poy qeloyme kai gi` ayta ta qemata na eiste gnwstes.

KARAGIANNH: Mexri xqes to brady, yphrxe mia sygxysh gia ton ariqmo twn sxoleiwn ta opoia eixan ypostei zhmies kai ton ariqmo twn sxoleiwn ta opoia den prokeitai na leitoyrghsoyn shmera. Qewrei h kybernhsh oti sto fainomeno ayto poy emfanisthke yphrjan oligwries kai an nai, poy tis apodidete;

REPPAS: Egine epistamenws kai se poly mikro xroniko diasthma elegxos twn sxolikwn ktiriwn, gia na doyme an einai katallhla na xrhsimopoihqoyn. Armodiothta gia ta sxoleia exoyn oi Nomarxies kai h Topikh Aytodioikhsh, epeidh exoyn th diaxeirish toys. Den yparxei oligwria. Yparxei ena megalo fortio doyleias, to opoio eprepe na antimetwpistei amesws. Pisteyw oti oi anakoinwseis poy exoyn ekdoqei apo tis armodies yphresies einai katatopistikes. Oi goneis kai oi maqhtes gnwrizoyn se poia sxoleia qa foithsoyn, pote arxizei se kaqe periptwsh h didaskalia se kaqe sxoleio. Ayto to qema exei antimetwpistei. Den yparxoyn kena s` ayton ton tomea.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Gia ton k. Mantelh, mas eipate kai thn Paraskeyh, oti den yparxei qema paraithshs toy. Wstoso, ta dhmosieymata twn efhmeridwn epimenoyn oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai enoxlhmenos mazi toy, oti einai ypo proqesmia, oti perimenoyn ayto to porisma kai meta qa paraithqei. Ti lete gia ola ayta eseis;

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Otan oi efhmerides exoyn thn ejoysia na sxhmatizoyn kybernhseis, bebaiws, qa apofasizoyn. Otan apofasizei o Prwqypoyrgos -kai ayto symbainei twra kai qa synexisei na symbainei- ekeinos qa orizei to sxhma ths kybernhshs. Kai o Prwqypoyrgos exei apofasisei o k. Mantelhs na askei ta kaqhkonta toy sto ypoyrgeio Metaforwn, me epiprosqeto kaqhkon na symbalei, wste to syntomotero dynato, na exoyme thn ekdosh toy telikoy porismatos, mesw toy opoioy qa prokycei plhrhs dialeykansh gi` ayto to tragiko symban.

ARGYROS: Mas eipate oti epelegh o k. Rokofyllos ws anaplhrwths ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn. Mporeite na mas peite, an yphrxan alloi ypochfioi kai me poia krithria egine ayth h epilogh;

REPPAS: Thn epilogh thn kanei o Prwqypoyrgos o opoios kai sxhmatizei thn kybernhsh. O Prwqypoyrgos einai ekeinos o opoios, kaqe fora, krinei poios einai o pleon katallhlos gia na analabei mia qesh sto kybernhtiko sxhma. Oydeis allos. Den yparxoyn alles diadikasies. Ayto problepei to Syntagma. Qa htan antisyntagmatiko ews anohto, na diarrhjoyme ayth th diadikasia kai na odhghqoyme se alles prwtotypes diadikasies epiloghs, oi opoies apadoyn pros to dhmokratiko politeyma. O Prwqypoyrgos exei ayto to dikaiwma kai to askei.

ARGYROS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, kaqhmerina akoyme ekatontades prosfores apo idiwtes kai apo diaforoys dhmosioys Organismoys. Oles aytes tis prosfores tis sygkentrwnei h exei to syntonismo kapoios dhmosios foreas; Kai an nai, na mas peite kapoia stigmh ti poson exei sygkentrwqei gia toys seismoplhktoys gia na jeroyme.

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala, oti polla proswpa kai foreis exoyn prosferei oikonomikh bohqeia h bohqeia se eidos, mesw armodiwn yphresiwn. Kai mesw ths kybernhshs ginetai ayto. Gnwrizete oti kapoioi ej aytwn exoyn episkeftei ton Prwqypoyrgo, armodioys ypoyrgoys, enw alloi exoyn prosferei th bohqeia toys apeyqeias stoys plhgentes, stis perioxes opoy exoyn dhmioyrghqei oi zhmies. Exei anoixtei enas logariasmos sthn Trapeza Ellados kai kaloyntai osoi qeloyn na bohqhsoyn, na kataqesoyn ekei thn oikonomikh syndromh toys. Einai o logariasmos 234365/5 sthn Trapeza Ellados. Yparxoyn kai alloi foreis poy exoyn anoijei logariasmoys se trapezika idrymata. Den mporei na gnwrizoyme gia to synolo twn logariasmwn poy exoyn anoixtei, poio einai mexri twra to oikonomiko apotelesma. Mporoyme, omws, bebaiws na sas poyme, poio einai to apotelesma poy exei prokycei me thn oikonomikh bohqeia poy exei doqei, mesw ths kybernhshs. Ayto einai kati to opoio qa anakoinwnetai kai qa to exete sth diaqesh sas.

PARIS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti sto neo nomosxedio, sto plaisio toy nomoqetikoy ergoy poy katartizetai gia to Xrhmatisthrio, oi megalometoxoi qa dhlwnoyn tis synallages toys. Qa mporoysate na moy to analysete perissotero ayto;

REPPAS: Qa sas parapemcw sth diatajh h opoia exei perilhfqei sto nomosxedio poy afora thn EYDAP kai syzhteitai sth Boylh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos epimenei na parameinei o k. Mantelhs ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn. Einai dynato gia enan ypoyrgo o opoios einai elegxomenos gia to oti egine na bgei porisma enantion toy;

REPPAS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas. Alla bebaiws, den symfwnw kai me tis lejeis poy xrhsimopoihsate. O Prwqypoyrgos krinei oti o k. Mantelhs synexizei na askei ta kaqhkonta toy, epeidh antapokrinetai gia to synolo twn armodiothtwn poy toy exoyn anateqei apo tote poy anelabe ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn. O Prwqypoyrgos qewrei oti epiprosqetws twra o k. Mantelhs exei eyqynh na oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia me kaqe diafaneia, wste na gnwrizoyme pws akribws eginan ta osa tragika eginan. Den yparxei kanena qema eyqynhs. Ayto den prokyptei apo poyqena. Kai parakalw ayth th syzhthsh gia ton katalogismo eyqynwn na thn apofygoyme, poly perissotero poy otan thn kanoyme anaferomaste se sygkekrimena proswpa. Antilambaneste pws einai pera gia pera antideontologiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, exei graftei apo olo ton Typo, sxedon, oti o k. Mantelhs gnwrize thn katastash toy aeroplanoy kai den ekane tipota.

REPPAS: O k. Mantelhs gnwrize osa gnwrizan oloi oi alloi. Kai oloi gnwrizan ayta ta opoia gnwrizan oi armodies yphresies. Kai oi texnikes yphresies, prin tajidecei to aeroplano ayto, prin xrhsimopoihqei, proebainan se sxetiko elegxo. Ejedidan ena parastatiko, sto opoio fainotan an yphrxan h oxi oi texnikes parathrhseis. Prepei na sas pw, oti oles oi pthseis poy eginan me ayto to aeroskafos, pragmatopoihqhkan, afoy eixe prohghqei texnikos elegxos, o opoios kaqe fora edeixne oti to aeroskafos einai katallhlo kai mporei na xrhsimopoihqei. Den yparxei kanena problhma ws pros ayto.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixe dyo porismata sta xeria toy poy periegrafan thn katastash toy aeroplanoy. O k. Mantelhs to gnwrize.

REPPAS: Prepei na sas pw oti o k. Mantelhs me epistolh toy kai me shmata dika toy eixe prokalesei thn ekdosh porismatwn, epeidh hqele kaqe fora na diasfalisei oti to aeroskafos ayto einai ploimo. Loipon, mh bgazoyme symperasmata ayth thn wra poy ejelissetai h ereyna. Qa kanoyme ypomonh, giati den qa einai toso megalos o xronos poy qa xreiastei, mexri na oloklhrwqei h ereyna.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gi' ayto leme oti h ereyna den qa einai opws prepei.

REPPAS: Qa einai apolytws antikeimenikh, giati gia prwth fora exoyme labei tetoioy eidoys metra, na kalesoyme apo tis HPA, apo dyo diaforetikes yphresies, dyo eidikoys gia na laboyn meros s' ayth thn ereyna. Qa xrhsimopoihsoyme ena ereynhtiko kentro, poy einai dieqnws ajiopisto, sto Mpraoyntsbaik ths Germanias gia na apokwdikopoihsei kai na anagnwsei to periexomeno toy "mayroy koytioy". Kai exoyme apokleisei empeirognwmones h texnikoys apo xwres oi opoies qewroyme oti exoyn mia emplokh sta toy aeroskafoys. Ayto deixnei, loipon, oti opws eipame, etsi symbainei. Kamia dynamh den mporei na stamathsei ton elegxo ayto apo to na odhghsei sthn plhrh alhqeia. Kai qa odhghsoyn o elegxos kai h ereyna sthn plhrh alhqeia gia ta gegonota.

KARAGIANNH: Kai eseis kai o armodios ypoyrgos, o k. Mantelhs, exete milhsei gia eyqynes poy yparxoyn. Katanow oti perimenete ta apotelesmata toy porismatos gia thn apodosh aytwn twn eyqynwn. To erwthma moy einai, an h kybernhsh -kai pera apo ta texnokratika, profanws, stoixeia poy qa apodeijei to porisma- qewrei oti yparxoyn politikes eyqynes. Kai an perimenete to porisma gia na apodwsete politikes eyqynes h oxi.

REPPAS: Prwta ap' ola, as mhn protrexoyme, mesw ypoqesewn, na odhgoymaste se symperasmata gia to ti qa ginei sto mellon. Oydeis gnwrizei ti qa ginei sto mellon. Emeis gnwrizoyme ayto to opoio mas afora, ayto to opoio mporoyme na elegjoyme emeis, oson afora tis ejelijeis. Den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes. Politikes eyqynes qa yphrxan, an o k. Mantelhs gia paradeigma, eixe ypoch toy oti para to oti oi texnikes yphresies elegan pws den prepei na xrhsimopoihqei to FALCON, pws o elegxos poy egine prin apo kapoia pthsh edeixne oti paroysiazei problhmata, en toytois to aeroskafos xrhsimopoihqhke. Den exoyme kati tetoio. Oloi oi elegxoi poy eixan prohghqei -prin apo kaqe pthsh, allwste, ginotan elegxos- edeixnan oti to aeroskafos einai ploimo. Kai gi' ayto xrhsimopoieito. Den yparxei allo qema.

Sas eyxaristw poly.


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