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Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-12-05

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 5 Dekembrioy 2001

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na mas peite th qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, oson afora tis ejelijeis sto Kypriako, opws tis akoysame. Symfwneite me thn arxikh aisiodojia poy parathrhqhke apo polloys politikoys kai sthn Ellada kai qa elega kai sthn Kypro. Kai mia deyterh erwthsh, oson afora ton Eyrwstrato. Dystyxws oi ejelijeis einai arnhtikes. Opws qa gnwrizete h Amerikh kai h Bretania ikanopoihsan apolyta tis qeseis ths Toyrkias. Prin apo dyo-treis hmeres sas eixa rwthsei ean se ayth thn periptwsh h Ellada einai apofasismenh na qesei veto kai moy eixate pei safws kai eyqarsws pws nai. Sas janarwtw qa qesete veto se ayth thn ejelijh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oson afora to Kypriako. Yphrje ejelijh me th synanthsh toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Glaykoy Klhridh me ton Ntenktas poy deixnei oti eimaste se enan kalo dromo gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. H symfwnia gia mia deyterh synanthsh, meta apo protash toy OHE, ara kai ypo thn aigida toy, deixnei oti den yparxei pia h adiallajia poy eixe parathrhqei apo thn toyrkikh pleyra. Deixnei oti einai dynato na elpizoyme se mia lysh toy Kypriakoy, sto plaisio toy OHE. Qa elega, omws, oti egine mono ena bhma. Exoyme akomh poly dromo. Xreiazetai megalh prospaqeia. Emeis sthrizoyme toys xeirismoys toy Proedroy Klhridh kai ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias gia mia dikaih kai biwsimh lysh toy Kypriakoy, symfwna me tis apofaseis toy OHE.

Oson afora to deytero erwthma sas gia ton Eyrwstrato, den nomizw oti yparxei kati poy na ikanopoiei thn toyrkikh pleyra. Den eimaste se ayth th fash. Yparxei mia prwtoboylia ths agglikhs kai ths amerikanikhs pleyras, me thn opoia fainetai na symfwnei h Toyrkia. Qelw, omws, na tonisw oti sthn prwtoboylia ayth kai sto keimeno poy exei doqei pros epejergasia sta krath-melh ths E.E. den exei yioqethqei h kyria qesh ths toyrkikhs pleyras, h opoia perielambane th dynatothta ths Toyrkias na metexei sth diadikasia lhchs apofasewn ths E.E. kai me dikaiwma veto otan xrhsimopoioyntai ypodomes ths E.E.. Ayth h toyrkikh qesh den exei yioqethqei. Den perilambanetai sthn prwtoboylia ths agglikhs kai amerikanikhs pleyras. Gia to skopo ayto, opws gnwrizete, se ligo qa yparjei synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn kai ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas. Bebaiws h stash ths ellhnikhs pleyras qa kaqoristei me bash thn yperaspish twn qesewn mas, poy kat` epanalhch exoyme ekfrasei. Einai safes oti o Eyrwstratos mporei na apotelesei mia qetikh ejelijh. Kinoymaste sth bash toy plaisioy apofasewn ths Synodoy ths Nikaias. Me aisqhma eyqynhs h ellhnikh pleyra qa yperaspistei, kata ton kalytero tropo, ta eqnika symferonta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa enhmerwsei ta politika kommata ths Elladas gia to qema toy Eyrwstratoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh enhmerwnei panta ta ellhnika kommata gia oles tis ejelijeis. Ayth th stigmh, omws, yparxei ena keimeno pros epejergasia. Den exei yioqethqei h qesh ths toyrkikhs pleyras kai den yparxei kamia symfwnia ths E.E.. Einai ena keimeno pros epejergasia. To kalytero poy exoyme na kanoyme, ayth th stigmh, einai na anaptyjoyme tis prwtoboylies mas kai th diapragmateytikh mas taktikh. Kai, bebaiws, otan erqei h wra qa yparjei h analogh enhmerwsh kai pros ta ellhnika kommata kai pros ton ellhniko lao. Eimaste se mia idiaitera lepth fash. Einai qetiko oti ayth h prwtoboylia den exei enswmatwsei tis kyries qeseis ths toyrkikhs pleyras. Kai bebaiws den shmainei oti thn exei kanei kaneis apodekth.

FASOYLAS: Gnwrizete an o Proedros Klhridhs eixe thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me ton Prwqypoyrgo, gia na ton enhmerwsei meta th synanthsh poy eixe me ton Raoyf Ntenktas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje thlefwnikh epikoinwnia me to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn. Bebaiws, yphrje kai plhrhs enhmerwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia oles tis ektimhseis gyrw apo th synanthsh. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke xqes sto qema ayto kai eipe oti eimaste se kalo dromo, alla xreiazetai para pollh doyleia akomh gia na fqasoyme sto apotelesma poy prepei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayto to keimeno to exei zhthsei h Nea Dhmokratia. Qa to dwsei h kybernhsh, to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, ayto to keimeno to pros epejergasia, wste na gnwrizoyn kai ta alla politika kommata ti einai ayto to keimeno;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, den to zhthse h N.D.. H N.D. zhthse na to dwsoyme sth dhmosiothta. Ayth qa htan mia astoxh prajh, h opoia qa empodize th diapragmateytikh dynatothta ths Elladas. Tetoia keimena exoyn doqei se ola ta krath-melh ths E.E. kai den exoyn doqei sth dhmosiothta oyte apo ayta. Otan, loipon, kai oi alloi den to exoyn kanei qa htan astoxo kai pragmatika lanqasmeno na to kanoyme emeis. Dhladh, na apodynamwsoyme th diapragmateytikh mas qesh. Gnwrizoyme kata ton kalytero tropo na yperaspizomaste ta ellhnika symferonta, to symferon ths xwras mas. Kai ayto kanoyme. Epejergazomaste prosektika to keimeno ayto. Blepoyme pws qa anaptyjoyme tis diapragmateytikes mas qeseis epi toy keimenoy h epi opoiwndhpote allwn protasewn yparxoyn. Kai sta organa ths E.E. qa dwsoyme th maxh mas. Eimaste bebaioi oti me th swsth taktikh mas qa petyxoyme ekeina poy prepei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h k. Mpakogiannh to zhthse gia to komma. Den eipe na doqei sth dhmosiothta. Apo poy bgainei ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apo to keimeno ths k. Mpakogiannh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H k. Mpakogiannh zhthse apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn na dwsei to keimeno. Kai arnhqhkan. Einai alhqeia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas parakalesw na diabasete to xqesino keimeno ths k. Mpakogiannh. H k. Mpakogiannh zhthse na doqei sth dhmosiothta to keimeno. Ayth thn protash th xarakthrizw pragmatika astoxh poy den ejyphretei th diapragmateytikh qesh ths Elladas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa enhmerwqei, toylaxiston, h Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas ths Boylhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai h Epitroph Ejwterikwn kai Amynas ths Boylhs, alla kai to komma ths N.D. enhmerwnontai synexws apo ton armodio ypoyrgo Giwrgo Papandreoy gia oles tis ejelijeis gyrw apo thn koinh ejwterikh politikh kai politikh asfaleias ths E.E.. Meta tis ejelijeis aytes qa yparjei kai pali sxetikh enhmerwsh.

GKOGKAS: Einai safes oti den yparxei apofash oson afora ton Eyrwstrato. Omws, opws exei dhlwqei kai apo thn toyrkikh kybernhsh kai apo alles eyrwpaikes yparxei mia desmh eggyhsewn pros thn Agkyra. Ean aytes oi eggyhseis telika epimeinoyn oi etairoi oti prepei na symperilhfqoyn sthn apofash, h Ellada qa askhsei veto sthn apofash gia ton Eyrwstrato;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Ellada qa yperaspisei me kaqe tropo ta eqnika symferonta. Sto qema toy Eyrwstratoy oi apofaseis poy qa yparjoyn prepei na einai mesa sto plaisio ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Nikaias. Apo ekei kai pera, einai safes oti ginetai mia epejergasia. H epejergasia ayth mexri ayth th stigmh ginotan apo ta epimeroys ypoyrgeia, dhladh apo to YPEJ kai to YPEQA. Se ligo yparxei h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys dyo ypoyrgoys, gia thn oloklhrwsh ths proetoimasias ths ellhnikhs pleyras. Epishs kai sto Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn th Deytera o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn kai o ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Amynas qa dwsoyn th maxh toys. Me thn eykairia, qelw na sas pw oti brisketai sth xwra mas gia sxetikes diaboyleyseis o Bretanos politikos dieyqynths toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn gia to logo oti synexizontai oi diaboyleyseis kai prwtoboylies panw se ayto to keimeno.

TSIBOLA: Qelw na rwthsw ean qa paei o k. Papandreoy, ayrio, sth Synodo twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn toy NATO kai ean qa qesei ekei to qema ths Eyrwamynas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa syzhthqei to qema ths Eyrwamynas ayrio sth Synodo twn ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn toy NATO kai einai eynohto oti den prepei na syzhthqei. Einai ena qema poy afora prwtistws thn E.E. kai sta organa ths qa prepei na lhfqoyn oi apofaseis.

FILHS: Metadidetai apo tis Bryjelles oti h belgikh Proedria exei dwsei, kata kapoion tropo, ws antallagma gia th stash ths Agkyras sto qema toy Eyrwstratoy, exei kanei mia protash na anabaqmistei h ypochfiothta ths Toyrkias. Opws jerete h Toyrkia einai 13h sth seira twn pros entajh sthn E.E. xwrwn kai twra legetai oti qa arxisei to screaning. Ayth einai h protash ths belgikhs Proedrias. To gnwrizei h Ellada kai poia einai h qesh ths;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti h krish twn ypo entajh xwrwn den ginetai me ayqaireto tropo. Yparxei mia seira apo krithria ta opoia prepei na plhroi h kaqe xwra, prokeimenoy na isxyropoihsei thn aithsh gia thn entajh ths. Gnwrizete oti h Toyrkia den einai apo tis prwtes xwres sth diadikasia plhrwshs aytwn twn krithriwn. Bebaiws, ean h Toyrkia qelei na epimeinei -kai den exoyme kamia antirrhsh opws gnwrizete- sth diadikasia entajhs ths sthn E.E. prepei na plhroi ta krithria poy exoyn teqei, kaqws kai tis apofaseis poy exoyn lhfqei sth Synodo Koryfhs sto Elsinki. Den yparxei qema pazarioy h diapragmateyshs se ayta ta qemata. Yparxei mia sygkekrimenh diadikasia kai ayth prepei na threitai apo oloys.

FILHS: As to jexwrisoyme. H Ellada pisteyei oti se ayth th fash mporei na arxisei to screaning gia thn Toyrkia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti den katanooyme aytoys toys oroys. Yparxei mia eniaia diadikasia gia thn entajh twn xwrwn sthn E.E.. Yparxoyn polles ypochfies pros entajh xwres. Gia oles aytes threitai mia diadikasia. Exoyn teqei ta krithria toy koinotikoy kekthmenoy. Yparxoyn ta zhthmata poy syndeontai me tis apofaseis toy Elsinki. Se ola ayta kaleitai h kaqe ypochfia xwra na kataqesei th symbolh ths. Den mporei na yparxoyn eidikes ryqmiseis gia kanenan.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh, me ayta poy mas lete, den aisqanetai thn anagkh ths bohqeias h ths sympleyshs me ola ta kommata ths Boylhs, wste na paei me mia protash h opoia qa einai apodekth apo oloys; Giati den toys enhmerwnei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti gia oles tis ejelijeis gyrw apo thn Koinh Ejwterikh Politikh kai Politikh Asfaleias, o k. Papandreoy exei enhmerwsei kat` epanalhch kai thn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs kai ta politika kommata kai eidika to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Ayth th stigmh eimaste sth fash ths proetoimasias kai twn diaboyleysewn gyrw apo mia protash ths agglikhs kai amerikanikhs pleyras. H protash ayth, opws eipa, den exei yioqethsei thn kyria qesh ths Toyrkias kai den shmainei oti emeis qa thn kanoyme apodekth. Ejalloy, den yparxei kai kamia apodoxh apo thn E.E. Einai logiko na yparxei proetoimasia, na yparxoyn diaboyleyseis kai na proetoimazetai h diapragmateytikh qesh ths Kybernhshs mas. Qa htan pantelws atyxes, qa htan astoxo, qa apodynamwne th diapragmateytikh qesh mas, ayth thn wra na kinoymaste me oroys dhmosiothtas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Den eipa gia dhmosiothta. Eipa na enhmerwsete ta kommata kai na exete th symparastash toys. Na pane oloi mazi. Den to qelei ayto h kybernhsh; Qelei mystikh diplwmatia, dhladh;

PRWTOPAPAS: H enhmerwsh qa ginei thn katallhlh wra.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes o arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs ekane logo gia oiktro katanthma ths O.A. kai katalogise eyqynes sthn kybernhsh. Eipe oti h ypoqesh ayth plasthke kat` eikona kai kaq` omoiwsh ths kybernhshs. Exete kapoio sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi dhlwseis toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs einai hqelhmena diastreblwtikes twn pragmatikwn gegonotwn, opws tonise kai o armodios ypoyrgos Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn Xrhstos Berelhs. Eidikotera sto qema ths diapragmateyshs me tis etaireies poy ekanan tis prosfores, qewrw oti ayta poy anaferei einai pantelws atyxh. Pragmatika genna erwthmata h xqesinh anakoinwsh ths N.D.. Ti hqele h N.D.; Na mh ginei diagwnismos; Ti hqele; Na symfwnhsoyme me kapoia apo tis etaireies, xwris na yparxei prosektikh ejetash twn pragmatikwn dynatothtwn kai twn pragmatikwn prooptikwn poy proseferan gia thn tyxh toy eqnikoy aerometaforea; Kati tetoio den htan dynato na ginei apodekto. Ejalloy, opws tonise o k. Berelhs, ta sxetika stoixeia eixan stalei sto komma ths N.D. H kybernhsh poly prosektika kai me idiaitero aisqhma eyqynhs ekane th doyleia ths. Ejetase tis prosfores. Gnwrizete oti edw kai arketes hmeres eixe perasei apo thn prosfora ths etaireias AXON sth deyterh prosfora. Den eixe kanei apodekth thn prosfora ths etaireias AXON, dioti otan klhqhke o k. Liakoynakos na kataqesei tis oikonomikes eggyhseis poy problepontan apo to diagwnismo den to ekane. Ara, logika, apo th stigmh poy den hmastan bebaioi gia tis oikonomikes dynatothtes, perasame sthn epomenh prosfora, thn opoia ejetazoyme kai qa thn ejetazoyme mexri thn hmeromhnia poy kaqorise o k. Berelhs, tis 23 Dekembrioy. Se kaqe periptwsh qa doqei h lysh poy prepei me idiaiterh prosoxh kai me bash to symferon toy ellhnikoy laoy. Qeloyme na yparxei eqnikos aerometaforeas, qeloyme na yparxei h O.A., alla me tropo poy den qa epibarynei ton ellhniko lao. Kai nomizw oti to kalytero poy qa eixe na kanei h N.D., pera apo to na prospaqei na ekmetalleyqei ena pragmatika dyskolo problhma poy yparxei, qa htan na kataqesei th symbolh ths.

Ayto poy prepei na tonisw einai oti problhmata, ayth th stigmh, yparxoyn se oles tis aeroporikes etaireies. Exoyme ena teleiws neo topio meta to tromokratiko ktyphma ths 11hs Septembrioy. Qelw na qymisw oti etaireies poy qewroyntan idiaitera dynamikes ekleisan, opws h SABENA kai amerikanikes etaireies. Shmeiwnw ta idiaitera problhmata poy antimetwpise h Swissair, h Alitalia, opws kai alles eyrwpaikes etaireies. Exoyme ena neo topio kai mesa se ayto dhmioyrgoyntai problhmata se oles tis etaireies. H O.A. poy deixnei oti mexri ayth th stigmh ta katafernei arketa kala prepei na proxwrhsei kai oloi prepei na eggyhqoyme to mellon ths. Ta zhthmata ayta den prosferontai gia kommatikoys antagwnismoys. H kybernhsh kai to Ypoyrgeio Metaforwn eidika exei kanei poly kala th doyleia toy. Den exoyme tipota na fobhqoyme kai ws pros thn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy, alla kai gia thn pragmatikh anadeijh ths ektashs toy problhmatos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Liakoynakos, h AXON, htan prwth. Poios thn ebgale prwth kai me poia krithria, afoy htan mia afereggya etairia; Pws bghke prwth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xrhsimopoihsa tetoioys oroys. Den xrhsimopoihsa, epishs, epiqeta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti den eixe. Prin ta eixe ayta ta xrhmata kai meta ta exase;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti eklhqh na ta kataqesei. Otan den to ekane, perasame sth deyterh prosfora. Den xarakthrizw kamia idiwtikh etairia me epiqeta. Milw gia pragmatika gegonota. Kai ta pragmatika gegonota einai opws sas ta eipa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas lew gia ta pragmatika gegonota, pws bghke prwth h etairia, me ti krithria;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan kaneis mia prosfora, grafeis kapoia pragmata. Ekeinos poy ektima thn prosfora, o Symboylos, soy ypoballei mia anafora, me bash ta stoixeia ths prosforas. Prepei ta anaferomena sthn prosfora, na apodeixqei oti antistoixoyn se pragmatika gegonota. Mia prosfora sta xartia, mporei na einai poly kalh, alla na mhn antapokrinetai sta pragmatika gegonota. Ayto to ejetazoyn oi Symboyloi. H kybernhsh ejetazei kai ta pragmatika dedomena. Kriqhke apo ta pragmatika dedomena, edw kai arketo kairo, oti prepei na perasoyme sth deyterh prosfora.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kanate diagwnismo, balate mia etairia poy plhrwsate me polla lefta, h etairia ayth sas exoyn pei oti den einai kai "kaqarh" h diwketai ayth h etairia mazi me alles kai meta lete oti den koitaje ta pragmatika gegonota kai hrqe prwth sto diagwnismo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti o Symboylos ekane mia ierarxhsh twn prosforwn, me bash tis protaseis twn etairiwn. Apo ekei kai pera, den shmainei oti ayth einai h apofash ths kybernhshs. H apofash ths kybernhshs, eidate oti sthrizetai mono se pragmatika dedomena.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, o Symboylos den einai "kaqaros"; Ayto qelete na moy peite.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, bebaia. Enas Symboylos krinetai kai apo alla dedomena.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Sas akoysame, prin, na lete gia to qema ths O.A. oti to mono poy prepei na kanei h N.D. einai na kataqesei th symbolh ths. Giati den ths dinete thn eykairia na kataqesei th symbolh ths kai sto qema toy Eyrwstratoy, afoy enhmerwqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa ginei kai ayto kai elpizw na to kanei, an kai apotelei spanio eidos h symbolh toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Qelw na elpizw oti ayth th fora qa to kanei.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Dwste ths thn eykairia, na doyme. Edw thn epikaleiste gia mia ypoqesh poy exei nayaghsei.

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan prepei na ginei kai eimaste etoimoi, ayth h enhmerwsh qa ginei. Pantote enhmerwnoyme th N.D. Eidika sta qemata ths KEPPA, exoyn yparjei polles sxetikes synanthseis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: H symbolh zhteitai pantote otan yparxei ena nayagio;

PRWTOPAPAS: H symbolh zhteitai apo ola ta kommata, panw se ola ta megala zhthmata poy antimetwpizei h xwra mas. Apo ekei kai pera, kai h kybernhsh krinetai, alla kai to kaqe komma krinetai apo th stash toy. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, h N.D. mas exei synhqisei sth monimh arnhsh kai prospaqeia ekmetalleyshs olwn twn problhmatwn poy antimetwpizei h xwra kai h koinwnia. Ayth einai mia stash poy katadikazoyme.

SOYGLERHS: Exw dyo erwthseis: Qelw na akoysw apo thn pleyra sas, thn eyqynh poy barainei thn kybernhsh gia to 1 tris. draxmes poy exei dapanhqei gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. Epishs, dwste mas mia eikona, poy eimaste akribws, se poio shmeio eimaste kai poy qa fqasei to mellon ths O.A.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti exoyn katablhqei terasties prospaqeies apo thn kybernhsh gia thn ejygiansh ths O.A. Eidika ton teleytaio kairo, pragmatika me entash, me akribeia kai me aisqhma eyqynhs, to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn kai Epikoinwniwn, exei kanei poly kala th doyleia toy. Bebaiws, eimaste se mia epoxh para poly dyskolh. Den einai idanika ta pragmata gia tis etairies aerometaforwn. Alles eyrwpaikes etairies talanizontai, alles kleinoyn kai sthn hpeiro mas, alla kai se alles hpeiroys. Gnwrizete oti dierxomaste mia terastia krish. H krish ayth exei dysmeneis synepeies. Se ayto to plaisio, eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na kinhqoyme kai mesa se ayto kinoymaste, me eyqynh, me prosoxh, alla kai me apofash na diasfalisoyme, toso to mellon toy eqnikoy aerometaforea, oso kai ta symferonta toy ellhnikoy laoy, poy den mporei mia zwh na yfistatai ta elleimmata.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Symplhrwmatika sthn prwth erwthsh moy, qa hqela na pw to ejhs: H kybernhsh skeftetai gia to qema toy Eyrwstratoy poy einai poly sobaro zhthma, na enhmerwsei ta politika kommata prin parei tis oristikes apofaseis ths; Ayto einai to erwthma.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti ayth th stigmh eimaste se mia lepth fash syzhthsewn kai prwtoboyliwn. Otan kriqei oti h katastash einai sthn telikh fash ths kai oti mporoyme na proxwrhsoyme stis anagkaies enhmerwseis, ayto qa ginei amesws. As mas epitrecete aytes tis hmeres, poy einai pragmatika dyskoles, opoy ginontai synexws diaboyleyseis kai synergasies, opoy anaptyssetai kai etoimazetai h swsth diapragmateytikh qesh ths Elladas, na mhn kanoyme kinhseis poy qa mas apodynamwsoyn. Otan erqei h wra, h enhmerwsh qa ginei.

PITTARAS: Shmera o Typos, sto synolo toy, dinei idiaiterh emfash kai ektash sthn arnhsh toy k. Shmith pros ton k. Kokkalh. Qelw na sas pw oti, hdh, apo xqes, stelexh ths INTRAKOM epemenan pws h protash toys htan pros ofelos toy ellhnikoy laoy, ths Elladas. Qelw na moy peite, ean epanelqei o k. Kokkalhs, qa exete thn idia antidrash h an diatypwsei ayth thn protash kapoios allos megaloepixeirhmatias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Htan apolytws safhs h xqesinh topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den xwrei kamia parermhneia.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Problhmatizei kaqoloy thn kybernhsh to gegonos oti meta thn prwtoboylia twn HPA kai twn Bretanwn gia ton Eyrwstrato, me thn Toyrkia, taytoxrona arxisan oi synomilies gia to Kypriako; Mhpws syndeontai ayta ta pragmata, mhpws yparxei kapoio "pazari" to opoio gnwrizei h kybernhsh h ypopteyetai, telos pantwn, kapoia diplwmatikh kinhsh, tetoia, oytws wste na yparxei ena "pazari" poy na ejyphretei afenos th mia pleyra kai afeteroy thn allh, kai h Toyrkia na deixnei kalh qelhsh sto Kypriako;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi! Se kamia periptwsh. H kybernhsh den kineitai me ayto ton tropo.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Sygnwmh, den katalabate. Den ennow gia thn kybernhsh, den ennow oti metexei h kybernhsh sto "pazari". Lew oti, epeidh xronika sympiptei h Toyrkia na deixnei, meta apo poly kairo, mia kalh qelhsh sto Kypriako, mhpws exei parei antallagmata sto allo qema toy Eyrwstratoy kai gi` ayto emfanizei ayth th diallaktikothta; H kybernhsh ejetazei ayto to endexomeno, gnwrizei kati tetoio kai an yparxei kapoia ypocia apo thn kybernhsh, pws mporei na antimetwpistei ena tetoio zhthma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejetazoyme ola ta qemata, alla prepei na gnwrizete oti h belgikh proedria, alla kai ta Symboylia ths E.E., oydepote exoyn mpei se opoiadhpote tetoia logikh. Ayto ekfrasthke, kata ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo, kai apo to Belgo Prwqypoyrgo k. Berxofstant, kata th synanthsh toy me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo K. Shmith. Apo ekei kai pera, einai safes -kai to gnwrizete- oti h Toyrkia brisketai se mia pragmatika dysxerh qesh, meta tis teleytaies ejelijeis sthn E.E. O k. Pronti, alla kai o armodios Epitropos gia ta qemata dieyrynshs ths E.E., prin apo ligo kairo, tonisan oti qa proxwrhsei h diadikasia entajhs ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias sthn E.E., xwris ayth h diadikasia, na syndeetai me thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy. Gnwrizete oti ayth h kathgorhmatikh dhlwsh ths E.E. ajiologhqhke ws idiaitera sobaro gegonos apo thn toyrkikh pleyra, mexri to shmeio na yparjei kai eidikh synedriash ths toyrkikhs Boylhs, kekleismenwn twn qyrwn. Einai, loipon, safes oti h toyrkikh pleyra katanohse th sobarothta toy problhmatos kai ayto poy eixame tonisei: Oti, dhladh, prepei na epilejei h mia Toyrkia, h opoia akoloyqei poreia entajhs ths sthn E.E. h mia Toyrkia poy phgainei se diaforetika xarakthristika. Ean telikws -dioti ayto den to gnwrizoyme- h toyrkikh pleyra exei apofasisei na proxwrhsei pros thn Eyrwph, einai safes oti mia tetoia apofash prepei na syndeqei me mia seira alles prwtoboylies, symfwnes me tis apofaseis ths E.E. Den exoyme kanena logo emeis na mh symfwnhsoyme s` ayto, na mh xairetisoyme mia tetoia ejelijh, ean yparjei.

BATIKIWTHS: Prin apo liges hmeres, eixame enhmerwqei apo to GEN oti ena antitorpiliko exei katapleysei anoikta ths Kalamatas, prokeimenoy na apotrecei thn proseggish sta ellhnika xwrika ydata enos skafoys, to opoio eixe eipwqei oti endexetai na exei metanastes. Ti telika synebh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei gnwstopoihqei kapoia ejelijh tis teleytaies hmeres. Gia tis leptomereies qa rwthsw to Arxhgeio toy Polemikoy Naytikoy kai qa sas enhmerwsw ayrio.

MPOTWNHS: Epeidh eixame kai Diypoyrgikh gia toys laqrometanastes shmera, eipe kapoia pragmata o Prwqypoyrgos, alla se mia genikh kateyqynsh. Sas eixa rwthsei kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, ean yparxei kati neotero gia to problhma twn laqrometanastwn sth Zakynqo. Yparxei kati;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mexri ayth th stigmh, den yphrje kapoia ejelijh. To olo qema twn laqrometanastwn syzhthqhke sthn eyreia diypoyrgikh syskech poy egine to prwi. Gia ta qemata ayta, yparxoyn sxetikes dhlwseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

FILHS: Xqes sth Boylh poy enhmerwse o k. Petsalnikos gia ta syzhtoymena sthn E.E. sxetika me th legomenh "antitromokratikh nomoqesia", ekfrasthke mia anhsyxia apo oloys toys boyleytes kai toy PASOK kai toy SYN kai toy KKE gi` aytes tis ejelijeis. H N.D. fanhke na yposthrizei thn kybernhtikh stash kai o k. Petsalnikos na einai kaqhsyxastikos. Taytoxronws, yparxei to apotelesma toy "eyrwbarometroy", mias yphresias ths E.E. poy deixnei oti oi Ellhnes polites, se antiqesh me toys polites allwn eyrwpaikwn xwrwn, einai poly epifylaktikoi gi` aytes tis sxediazomenes ryqmiseis se eyrwpaiko plaisio. Qa hqela ena sxolio, prwton gia th diapistwqeisa apo to "eyrwbarometro" epifylaktikothta ths ellhnikhs koinhs gnwmhs kai deyteron, gia to an h kybernhsh protiqetai na proxwrhsei se aytes tis ryqmiseis gia deyterh fora se mikro diasthma, me th sthrijh mono ths N.D.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh prokeitai na proxwrhsei se ryqmiseis tetoies poy qa exoyn ta xarakthristika, sta opoia, kat` epanalhch, exoyme anaferqei. Eimaste diateqeimenoi na enwsoyme tis dynameis mas me th Dieqnh Koinothta gia ta metra antimetwpishs ths tromokratias. Prepei na prowqhsoyme tis apofaseis ths E.E. gia thn Koinh Politikh Asfaleias, apofaseis poy gnwrizete oti oloi mazi exoyme parei. Oi apofaseis poy qa lhfqoyn, se kamia periptwsh den qa anairoyn ta dikaiwmata kai tis eleyqeries twn Ellhnwn politwn. Gnwrizete oti exoyn lhfqei apofaseis gia mia koinh politikh sta qemata asfaleias. Yparxei to eyrwpaiko entalma syllhchs, en th genesei toy kai ola ayta ta dedomena. Einai safes oti h Ellada kataqetei th symbolh ths sth Dieqnh Koinothta. Tonizw kai pali oti se kamia periptwsh den qa amfisbhthqoyn dikaiwmata kai eleyqeries twn Ellhnwn politwn poy aporreoyn apo to Syntagma mas.

FILHS: Sygnwmh poy epimenw, alla den einai kapoia dikh mas idiotropia edw sthn Ellada. Kai sthn Eyrwph exoyn jana-askhsei, sas to exw pei kai allh fora, sygkekrimenes kritikes diakekrimenwn nomikwn kai proswpikothtwn kai organwsewn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn, opws einai h Dieqnhs Amnhstia, yperanw pashs ypocias poy den mporei na einai yposthriktes twn tromokratwn oloi aytoi, poy lene oti o proteinomenos orismos ths tromokratias apo thn Komision, o opoios apo o,ti fainetai ginetai dektos apo toys Eyrwpaioys ypoyrgoys Dikaiosynhs, einai ejairetika asafhs kai epikindynos gia ta atomika dikaiwmata. Den mas exete diabebaiwsei diaforetika eseis. Exete diabasei ayton ton orismo; Ton gnwrizete; Qelete na kanoyme syzhthsh ep` aytoy, twra; Afhnoyn th dynatothta gia mia apergia poy qa ginei sth DEH h sthn EYDAP, na poinikopoihqei ws tromokratikh energeia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme thn idia apoch.

FILHS: Qema apochs einai ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exoyme thn apoch, den ektimoyme oti yparxei kapoio tetoio problhma. Apo ekei kai pera, ean kapoios episthmonas exei mia allh apoch, gnwrizete oti Dhmokratia exoyme ston topo mas kai oles oi apoceis ekfrazontai.

FILHS: Tote, prin desmeyqeite se ayto to plaisio sthn E.E., giati den prokaleite mia syzhthsh sthn ellhnikh Boylh, panw sta sxedia kai oxi stis apofaseis ths E.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto ekane xqes o k. Petsalnikos.

FILHS: Oxi, den efere sxedia ekei. Toy zhthqhkan kai eipe oti den einai etoima ola. Qa ta chfisoyme kai meta qa doyme ti qa ginei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Eqese to geniko perigramma.

FILHS: Giati, omws, den prokrinei h ellhnikh kybernhsh, me bash thn antidrash twn Ellhnwn politwn, alla kai allwn politwn ths Eyrwphs, mia syzhthsh prin desmeyqei h Ellada sthn E.E. gia to qema ths tromokratias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa yparjei h katallhlh enhmerwsh, wste aytes oi epifylajeis, tis opoies qewrw dikaiologhmenes, otan kati allazei, na arqoyn. Gnwrizete oti akoma kai sto Eyrw, prin arxisoyn oi ekstrateies enhmerwshs, yphrxe mia seira apo epifylajeis kai foboys. Einai safes oti otan yparxei enhmerwsh, otan o kosmos maqainei, otan gnwrizei ti ginetai, aytoi oi foboi ekleipoyn. To idio qa ginei kai se ayth thn periptwsh.

FILHS: Gia ton k. Poytin poy erxetai sthn Ellada, yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Me xara ypodexomaste ton Proedro ths Rwsikhs Dhmokratias. Einai mia poly shmantikh episkech kai bebaiws, qa ginoyn synomilies dimeroys kai genikoteroy endiaferontos.

FILHS: Yparxei kati sygkekrimeno poy qa einai sthn atzenta apo ellhnikhs pleyras;

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai polla qemata sthn atzenta. Pisteyw oti qa mporesoyme na kanoyme ton apologismo, otan fygei o k. Poytin. Einai pantws qemata genikoteroy kai koinoy endiaferontos me th Rwsikh Dhmokratia.

Sas eyxaristw.


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