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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-02-06

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 6 Febroyarioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Synexizetai h synedriash gia to qema ths diafqoras kai epomenws anakoinwseis qa yparjoyn meta th lhjh ths.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

SOYGLERHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, xqes akoysame stis dhlwseis, meta th syskech poy eixan o ypoyrgos Gewrgias Giwrgos Drys kai o yfypoyrgos Baggelhs Argyrhs me toys ekproswpoys twn agrotwn, na miloyn se diaforetikh glwssa, na rixnei o enas tis eyqynes ston allon kai efqasan sto shmeio na allhlokathgoroyntai. Poia einai h alhqeia; Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ola ayta ta qemata yparxoyn ta gegonota kai nomizw oti kaneis den katexei monos toy thn apolyth alhqeia. Se ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn oi ariqmoi kai ta gegonota poy miloyn apo mona toys kai kaqenas mporei na bgazei ta symperasmata toy.

Gnwrizete poly kala oti h xwra mas exei desmeytei me ton kanonismo ths E.E., wste h posothta toy bambakioy poy qa dhlwqei kai epomenws qa epidothqei basei toy kanonismoy qa einai mexri to orio toy enos ekatommyrioy 146 xiliadwn tonwn. Ews ayth th stigmh poy syzhtoyme exoyme ena ekatommyrio 95 xiliades tonoys. Ayto egine meta apo mia seira enstasewn poy ejetasan kai apodexqhkan oi armodies arxes kai h kybernhsh. H arxikh posothta poy eixe qewrhqei ws nomimws dhlwqeisa htan ena ekatommyrio 78 xiliades tonoi kai me tis enstaseis ftasame sto ena ekatommyrio 95 xiliades tonoys.

Qa kanoyme o,ti kalytero mporoyme gia na ejetasoyme kai tis ypoloipes enstaseis poy exoyn diatypwqei kai se oses apo aytes yparxoyn stoixeia poy apodeiknyoyn oti einai swstes, dhladh oi agrotes poy tis ypebalan exoyn dikio, den exoyme kanena problhma, yparxei kalh diaqesh na tis anagnwrisoyme. Se kaqe periptwsh, omws, mexri toy orioy toy enos ekatommyrioy 146 xiliadwn tonwn.

Yparxei enas kanonismos kai symfwna me ayton katanemhqhkan oi sxetikes posostwseis kai doqhkan oi sxetikes kateyqynseis. An paraxqhke epipleon bambaki einai safes oti ayto to bambaki den paraxqhke symfwna me ton kanonismo kai me osa orizontai apo tis sxetikes diatajeis.

Ekeino poy mporoyme na kanoyme kai qa kanoyme einai na ejetasoyme se poies enstaseis exoyn dikio. Piqanon se orismenes periptwseis na yparxoyn aitiologhmenes anafores twn agrotwn kai anagkh gia na symperilhfqoyn sthn telikh posothta poy qa dhlwqei. Aytes tis periptwseis qa tis antimetwpisoyme kai qa tis krinoyme me kalh diaqesh.

KAPPOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, meta thn akarph xqesinh synanthsh qewrw oti to erwthma poy sas teqhke xqes kai to opoio xarakthrisate anepikairo, apokta pleon epikairothta, dhladh anaferomai stis ojymenes antidraseis twn agrotwn stis opoies an parathrhsate yparxei ena neo poiotiko xarakthristiko, einai ena xarakthristiko mias orghs twn agrotwn poy yperbainei akomh kai toys sxediasmoys twn epitelikwn paragontwn twn agrotwn. Poies einai oi proqeseis ths kybernhshs ws pros aytes tis ekdhlwseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn oi gnwstoi ekproswpoi, oi opoioi xqes diatypwsan th diafwnia toys. Milaw gia toys kyrioys Patakh kai Mpoyta. Egine h synanthsh me ton k. Dry. Kalopista to ypoyrgeio Gewrgias kai h kybernhsh prospaqhsan na proseggisoyn ta problhmata twn agrotwn. Panta antimetwpizoyme me kalh pisth kai kalh diaqesh ta problhmata twn agrotwn.

Gia paradeigma, qelw na tonisw tis sxetikes epishmes anakoinwseis gia tis apozhmiwseis twn agrotwn stis perioxes opoy yphrjan katastrofes, logw kairoy, me ta gnwsta akraia fainomena toy Ianoyarioy. Ejasfalisthke to poso twn 90 disekatommyriwn draxmwn kai o,ti kalytero mporoyme na kanoyme, qa to kanoyme kai malista me tis pio taxeis kai apotelesmatikes diadikasies.

Katanooyme oti ayth th stigmh yparxoyn kapoia problhmata. Qa prospaqhsoyme me kalh diaqesh, me qetiko pneyma na antimetwpisoyme kai tis enstaseis ekeines poy peiqoyn oti prepei kapoies posothtes akomh na symperilhfqoyn.

Ekeino, omws, poy prepei na dhlwsoyme safws einai oti oi kinhtopoihseis kai oi diamartyries einai sebastes. Bebaiws, o agrotikos kosmos exei problhmata kai piqanon krinei kapoies stigmes oti prepei na kanei tis kinhtopoihseis. H kybernhsh antimetwpizei me qetiko pneyma ta problhmata twn agrotwn kai prospaqei na ejasfalizei tis kalyteres lyseis. Ekeino, omws, poy pisteyoyme einai oti olh h koinwnia zhtei na mhn yparxoyn morfes kinhtopoihsewn poy na einai se baros ths, poy na parempodizoyn thn omalh oikonomikh kai koinwnikh zwh toy topoy. Dhladh, se teleytaia analysh, na strefontai enantion toy polith. Kai pisteyoyme oti kai stoys agrotes kai stoys syndikalistes toys qa yparjoyn wrimes kai ypeyqynes skeceis.

KAPPOS: Se poies lyseis prosanatolizetai pleon h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei me thn akribws prohgoymenh anafora moy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, eipate oti h Ellada exei desmeytei sthn E.E.. H xwra eixe desmeytei, toys agrotes toys eidopoihse;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete oti oi kanonismoi aytoi den einai oyte kryfoi, oyte mystikoi. Oi kanonismoi aytoi eixan doqei kai eixan enhmerwqei analytika apo tis armodies yphresies.

STAMATOPOYLOS: gnwrizan gia toys ena ekatommyrio 146 xiliades tonoys;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oi kanonismoi aytoi anakoinwnontai kai apo mas kai apo thn E.E.. Kai bebaiws, oi armodies yphresies apo fetos poy efarmozoyn ayto to neo kanonismo kai to oloklhrwmeno kai diafano systhma gnwstopoioyn aytoys toys kanonismoys. Exoyn bgei de kai oi sxetikes posostwseis kai kata perioxh kai kata kalliergeia. Den einai kati poy oi agrotes den to gnwrizoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi agrotes lene oti den eixan enhmerwqei. Den eixe pei h kybernhsh posoys tonoys qa parei. Kai to idio lene kai twra.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta lynontai stis synanthseis me toys armodioys, opoy apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs yparxei panta poly kalo pneyma. Sas epanalambanw oti ta pragmata den einai etsi. Yparxei o kanonismos, o opoios efarmozetai apo fetos. Einai ena oloklhrwmeno kai diafano systhma poy ryqmizei ta qemata twn bambakokalliergeiwn, wste na ejasfalizei kai idiaitera qetikes times kai ychles epidothseis. Eixan enhmerwqei gi` ayto. Ean se kapoia shmeia, bebaiws, epeidh einai h prwth fora, yparxoyn enstaseis dikaiologhmenes qa antimetwpistoyn me qetiko pneyma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh sth syskech, ektos apo th diafqora, syzhta na lhfqoyn metra gia thn katarghsh twn sygkentrwsewn; Dhladh, o k. Shmiths me ton k. Xrysoxoidh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Sth syskech, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy, den symmetexei mono o k. Xrysoxoidhs, alla kai o k. Xristodoylakhs, h ka Papandreoy, o k. Skandalidhs, o k. Xythrhs, o k. Diamantoyros kai alla stelexh. Den einai mia syskech poy ginetai gia alla zhthmata, peran ths diafqoras kai bebaiws, ginetai kai logw epikairothtas, kai eidikotera toy qematos toy paranomoy tzogoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai twn agrotwn. Kai ayto einai epikairo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws eidate apo thn topoqethsh toy k. Dry, alla kai thn shmerinh topoqethsh moy, antimetwpizoyme toys agrotes ws ena megalo strwma toy ellhnikoy laoy poy exei problhmata, poy prosferei sth xwra kai thn oikonomia ths. Proseggizoyme kai antimetwpizoyme ta problhmata ayta me idiaiterh eyaisqhsia. Epixeiroyme, sto plaisio ths politikhs ths E.E., tis kalyteres dynates lyseis. Exoyme epishmanei oti mia tyxon epaneqnikopoihsh ths agrotikhs politikhs qa odhghsei se katastrofika apotelesmata gia toys agrotes. Kai to mono poy epishmainoyme, ej onomatos ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, einai oti den einai dynaton h opoia morfh kinhtopoihsewn -giati sebomaste tis kinhtopoihseis- na strefetai kata toy koinwnikoy synoloy, kata toy aploy polith den mporei na parempodizei thn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh zwh.

MIXAHL: Na symperanw oti oi protaseis poy xqes aneptyje stoys ekproswpoys twn agrotwn o k. Drys, einai oi telikes protaseis ths kybernhshs; Dhladh, 90 dis. gia apozhmiwseis, prospaqeia gia oso ginetai megalyterh timh sto bambaki kai h symfwnia apo o,ti apodeixqhke ston kapno, sto ladi kai sto mhtrwo, einai oi telikes apofaseis sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ean yphrxan perissoteres dynatothtes kai alles diejodoi, na eiste bebaioi oti qa tis eixame akoloyqhsei. Gnwrizete oti leitoyrgoyme se ena sygkekrimeno plaisio.

MIXAHL: Apo o,ti katalabainw, kinoymenh h kybernhsh se ayto to plaisio, exei diamorfwsei aytes tis sygkekrimenes protaseis poy tis kateqese sto xqesino dialogo. Synepws, h mh apodoxh toys apo toys agrotes, kata thn ektimhsh sas, exei alloys skopoys apo to na dikaiwqoyn ta aithmata toys; Opws, gia paradeigma, politikes skopimothtes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw apla -epeidh einai h prwth fora poy efarmozetai o kanonismos- oti yparxoyn agrotes oi opoioi, isws, den exoyn katanohsei h en pash periptwsei exoyn meinei se palies praktikes gyrw apo ta qemata twn kalliergeiwn. Yparxoyn kapoies diafwnies se ayto to shmeio. Polloi mporei na pisteyoyn oti einai eykolh h dynath mia epaneqnikopoihsh ths agrotikhs politikhs. Ayto, oxi mono den einai eykolo kai dynato, alla qa htan katastrofiko gia ton Ellhna agroth. Se ayta ta zhthmata yparxoyn diafwnies, me orismenes skeceis poy analyontai apo thn pleyra twn ekproswpwn twn agrotwn. Den ektimoyme oti yparxei kati allo. Einai safes oti exoyme kapoies diafwnies. Einai, omws, ejisoy safes oti prospaqoyme na broyme lysh, mesw toy dialogoy.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Prin apo th syskech ayth poy brisketai twra se ejelijh sto Megaro Majimoy, egine kai mia allh syskech me th symmetoxh kybernhtikwn paragontwn, alla kai melwn toy PASOK. Epeidh den yphrje kapoia anakoinwsh, oyte eginan dhlwseis, exete na mas peite kati eseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejetasthkan qemata poy aforoyn thn poreia toy kommatos mas pros tis dhmotikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges kai qemata poy exoyn sxesh me thn perifereia kai ta erga poy ekteloyntai ekei.

KOYIN: Sthn ayrianh Kybernhtikh Epitroph, ektos apo thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy, qa syzhthqei kapoio allo sygkekrimeno qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: H Kybernhtikh Epitroph, sthn ayrianh synedriash ths, qa apasxolhqei me ola ta qemata ths epikairothtas. Afora thn poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy kai einai safes oti qa syzhthqoyn qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me zhthmata poy prowqoyntai kai krinontai ayth th stigmh. Ena apo ayta, einai bebaiws kai to qema ths agrotikhs politikhs.

MPOYATAR: Ti akribws zhthse h ntel Ponte stis 13 Aygoystoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mas zhthqhkan mia seira stoixeia kai dieykriniseis. Ekeino poy exw na sas pw -kai menw ekei- einai h epiqymia gia stenh synergasia. Yphrje amesh antapokrish apo tis ellhnikes arxes sto aithma poy aneptyje h ka Karla ntel Ponte kai ayrio, to ellhniko ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs, qa apanthsei plhrws sta erwthmata poy eteqhsan.

MPOYATAR: To rwtw, giati ayta poy dhmosieyqhkan shmera aforoyn mono to @99 kai to 2000 poy, ypoqetw, sxetizontai me to Kossobo. Exei zhthsei stoixeia kai apo tis arxes ths dekaetias toy @90;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayrio qa dwsei oloklhrwmenh apanthsh toy ellhniko ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs. Ayto sto opoio qa meinw shmera, einai oti yparxei h qelhsh gia stenh synergasia, amesh antapokrish ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs sta sxetika aithmata kai ayrio qa yparjei apanthsh apo to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs.

MPOYATAR: H dikastikh apofash pote elhfqh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto to opoio epishmainw einai oti ayrio qa yparjei amesh apanthsh apo to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs.

KAPPOS: Sxetika me to agrotiko, epimeinate oti sebastes men oi kinhtopoihseis twn agrotwn, alla k.t.l. Se analoges periptwseis sto parelqon h kybernhsh ekdhlwne ena opoiasdhpote morfhs astynomiko katastaltiko sxedio. Exete kati tetoio kata noy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayrio apergoyme.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sebomenoi thn ayrianh kinhtopoihsh ths ESHEA den qa ginei h ayrianh politikh enhmerwsh.

MIXAHL: Prokeitai na synanthqeite me thn ESHEA;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epikoinwnhsa me ton Proedro ths ESHEA Ar. Manwlako kai toy eipa oti stis proqeseis mas einai na yparjei synanthsh me thn ESHEA -h opoia kalyptei, opws gnwrizete, olo to dhmosiografiko kosmo toy Lekanopedioy- prokeimenoy na syzhsoyme analytika, molis eimaste etoimoi, ola ta qemata ta opoia protiqemeqa na prowqhsoyme to epomeno diasthma sto xwro toy Typoy kai twn MME. Eidikotera qa syzhthsoyme to prosxedio nomoy gia to basiko metoxo, thn ylopoihsh, dhladh, toy arqroy 14, par. 9, toy Syntagmatos, thn anagkh enarjhs enos dialogoy gia ton eksygxronismo kai th symplhrwsh twn kwdikwn deontologias, me bash thn protash toy ESR, kaqws kai alla qemata epikairothtas gia to dhmosiografiko kosmo kai tis prwtoboylies poy qa analaboyme. O k. Manwlakos moy anakoinwse oti sth diarkeia ths synenteyjhs Typoy, h opoia piqano na exei oloklhrwqei ayth th stigmh, qa anaggeilei genikoteres prwtoboylies ths ESHEA. Emeis eimaste eytyxeis otan analambanontai tetoies prwtoboylies apo thn ESHEA ston eyaisqhto xwro twn MME kai qewroyme oti symballoyn shmantika sta qemata ths deontologias kai ths aytorryqmishs sto xwro toy Typoy.

Qelw na tonisw -epeidh blepw kapoia dhmosieymata toy Typoy kai akoysa kai kapoio synadelfo sas xqes, o opoios ejefrase foboys -eipwqhkan malista diafora peri epitropwn deontologias kai alla tetoia- oti oydepote eipwqhke apo thn pleyra mas kati tetoio. Qelw na qymisw oti ayth th stigmh yparxei o kwdikas deontologias toy 1988, o opoios isxyei gia tis eidhseografikes kai enhmerwtikes ekpompes, einai o legomenos ``kwdikas deontologias Daktogloy'', poy exei onomastei xarin syntomias, apo to onoma toy episthmona poy ton eixe syntajei. Ara, yparxei ayth th stigmh enas kwdikas deontologias -den ton efeyre h kybernhsh- o opoios exei malista thn isxy toy Proedrikoy Diatagmatos. Exei symplhrwqei me alles diatajeis apo to nomo 2328 kai bebaiws, exei analabei to ESR thn epopteia gia thn efarmogh toy, me ejoysiodothsh nomoy kai armodiothta gia tis sxetikes poines. Epeidh, omws, o kwdikas aytos einai palaioteros ths epoxhs ths anqishs kai ths epektashs -kai malista me ton tropo poy egine htan kai ligo ayqairetos, ws gnwrizete- twn radiothleoptikwn Meswn, epeidh exei diamorfwqei ena neo topio ek twn pragmatwn, epeidh o kwdikas aytos den eixe symperilabei para polles diatajeis poy teqhkan se diaforoys nomoys, kyriws sto nomo 2328, krinetai skopimh h epikairopoihsh kai symplhrwsh toy. Qa elega oti xreiazetai enas genikoteros eksygxronismos kai prosarmogh stis shmerines katastaseis, pali me th morfh toy kwdika deontologias poy qa periblhqei me th morfh P.D. Pali to ESR kai oxi h kybernhsh qa einai o armodios foreas gia thn efarmogh kai parakoloyqhsh toy. Gnwrizete oti to ESR den qa diorizetai pleon apo thn kybernhsh kai hdh exw steilei epistolh ston Proedro ths Boylhs, prokeimenoy na kinhqoyn oi diadikasias poy problepei to Syntagma, alla, apo th Diaskech twn Proedrwn, dhladh, apo to ellhniko Koinoboylio kai malista me idiaitera ayjhmenh pleiochfia, dhladh, me th symfwnh gnwmh perissoterwn toy enos kommatwn. Ypoqetw, ean einai dynaton, kai me omofwnia ths Boylhs. Epomenws, qa einai mia pragmatika isxyrh kai anejarthth arxh. Qa synexisei de to qetiko ergo poy exei paraxqei kai apo to nyn ESR. To ESR, loipon, qa exei thn eyqynh ths parakoloyqhshs ths efarmoghs toy kwdika deontologias, qa einai armodio gia na egkalei h kai na epiballei poines kai oxi emeis. Emeis den qa exoyme kamia sxesh kai kamia dynatothta parembashs, ws kybernhsh. Qelw na to shmeiwsw ayto, gia na mhn plekoyme kapoia senaria poy ofeilontai sthn elleich gnwshs kai elpizw oxi se kakopistia. Qelw na elpizw oti kalopista anaferqhkan, alla piqanotata na mhn gnwrizan ta stoixeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Manwlakos dexqhke na syzhthsei kwdika deontologias, symfwna me ayta poy mas eipate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas to epanalabw ayto, dioti kaneis den mporei na arnhqei thn epikairopoihsh kai ton eksygxronismo enos yparxontos kwdika. Qelw na tonisw oti den qa einai ths kybernhshs h protash poy qa teqei sto dialogo, giati piqanon yphrjan kapoies parejhghseis. Qa teqei sto dialogo h protash toy ESR, h opoia einai symfwnh me to nomo. Apo kei kai pera, elpizw oti oloi qa proselqoyn sto dialogo, dioti einai safes oti thn protash ayth thn exei syntajei -kai qa apostalei se oloys gia na diatypwsoyn tis apoceis toys- to ESR. Den thn exw syntajei egw. Sebomai apolyta thn protash poy exei syntajei. Omws, emeis -eytyxws h dystyxws- eimaste ekeinoi poy exoyme thn armodiothta na katartisoyme to Proedriko Diatagma, to opoio qa qesei se isxy oles aytes tis protaseis. An den ginei P.D., den exei isxy o kwdikas. Ara, den qa mporei to ESR ayrio -poy qa einai kai pantelws anejarthth arxh- na egkalei kanenan. Den qa yparxei nomiko plaisio. Ean, apo kei kai pera, h ESHEA prowqhsei mia parallhlh diadikasia gia aytorryqmish twn MME, den exoyme para na th xairethsoyme. Den empodizei to ena to allo. Den antistrateyetai to ena to allo. Kai to qewrw akrws enisxytiko kai qetiko kai qelw na sygxarw tetoies prwtoboylies. Makari na yphrxe h aytorryqmish. Makari na mporoysan ta idia ta MME, xwris kamia parembash, oyte kan elegxo, na eixan odhghsei se kwdikes deontologias kai aytorryqmiseis isxyres kai parakoloyqoymenes...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Isxyrotates einai , k. Ypoyrge. Peftoyn ta prostima to ena pisw apo to allo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala -kai qelw me thn eykairia ths parembashs sas na to qymisw- oti yparxoyn dyo kathgoriwn antimetwpiseis: Yparxei plhrhs eleyqerotypia kai o kaqe idiwths exei dikaiwma na ekdwsei mia efhmerida. Yparxoyn kapoies diadikasies. Ean throyntai aytes oi diadikasies mporeis na ekdwseis mia efhmerida kai na poylas enan ariqmo fyllwn poy qewreis ikanopoihtiko gia na ekfrazeis tis apoceis soy, mazi me to epiteleio soy kai, en pash periptwsei, osoys xrhsimopoieis poy epiteloyn to leitoyrghma toys. Nomizw oti ola ayta ta zhthmata poy syndeontai me to xwro twn efhmeridwn, kalws exoyn ayth th stigmh kai kaneis den allazei tipota. Yparxoyn kai oi nomoi, ean qelei kapoios poliths na prostateyqei. Ean mia efhmerida qijei enan polith, exoyme ena nomiko plaisio -kai qa elega kai plhres nomiko plaisio- wste o poliths na prostateyqei plhrws. Peritteyei, loipon, h opoiadhpote allagh ston tomea ayto. Yparxei, omws, apo thn allh pleyra, ena dhmosio agaqo kai malista idiaitera akribo. To agaqo ayto legetai ``syxnothtes''. Qelw na qymisw oti oi syxnothtes den anhkoyn ston idiwth. Oi syxnothtes anhkoyn ston ellhniko lao kai thn eyqynh na tis xeiristei thn exei to kratos. Einai logiko, loipon, apo th stigmh poy to kratos ekxwrei syxnothtes gia na kanoyn kapoioi xrhsh, na elegxei -kai yparxei gia to skopo ayto mia anejarthth arxh- thn thrhsh kapoiwn kwdikwn deontologias. Kai omilw gia kwdikes deontologias. Yposthrizete, dhladh, oti kapoios poy kanei xrhsh enos dhmosioy agaqoy mporei na proballei egklhmatikes prajeis, epi paradeigmati; Yparxei kapoios poy qa symfwnhsei se ayto; Pisteyw ``oxi''. Ara, loipon, apo th stigmh poy ginetai xrhsh enos dhmosioy agaqoy -kai malista tonizw idiaiterws akriboy- einai logiko na yparxei enas kwdikas deontologias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati qelete na dhmioyrghsete allo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Dioti, o kwdikas deontologias toy Daktogloy, einai toy 1988. Kai tote, opws gnwrizete, yphrxe mono h kratikh thleorash kai to kratiko radiofwno kai htan sth gennhsh toys tote -an qymamai kala- o 9,84 kai kapoioi alloi staqmoi. Einai dynato h epoxh ekeinh poy yphrxan mono h kratikh radiothleorash kai alla dyo-tria radiofwna na einai idia epoxh me th shmerinh; Einai dynato ta problhmata na einai idia twra poy yparxoyn eqnikes thleoraseis, perifereiakes, eqnika radiofwna, perifereiaka radiofwna, ekatontades staqmoi, thleoptikoi kai radiofwnikoi: Einai idio to topio; Einai idia ta problhmata; Einai idies oi anagkes; O nomos 2328, kai oxi o kwdikas deontologias, epixeirhse orqws kata th gnwmh moy, na ryqmisei orismena apo ta problhmata poy eixan dhmioyrghqei. Exoyme, loipon, shmera enan kwdika deontologias poy isxyei, pepalaiwmeno. Ena nomo poy isxyei, o opoios ``qerapeyei'' kapoio meros twn problhmatwn. Exoyme poiniko kwdika poy antimetwpizei kapoia alla. Exoyme alloys nomoys poy antimetwpizoyn alla. Ti poio orqo, ti poio ypeyqyno gia mia organwmenh politeia, na proxwrhsei, oxi me dikh ths protash, alla me protash toy ESR, dhladh mias anejarthths arxhs, ston eksygxronismo, th symplhrwsh kai th systhmatopoihsh, olwn aytwn twn kwdikwn. Pisteyw oti qa einai ena ejairetiko qetiko ergo, poy qa symbalei shmantika sthn poiothta ths enhmerwshs. Egw qa perimena na xairethsete tis proqeseis mas kai oxi na blepw kapoies diamartyries.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti poiothta, ti ennoeite;

PRWTOPAPAS: An me rwtate, ean eimaste eyxaristhmenoi apo thn poiothta, apantw eyqews ``oxi''. Kai ektimw oti ki eseis to idio qa peite.

IWANNOY: To pososto toy basikoy metoxoy poy qa eishghqei h kybernhsh, mas lete poio einai; Exei apofasisei h kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Molis apofasisoyn ta kybernhtika organa, qa sas to anakoinwsw.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Eseis ti proteinate;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eiqistai na prokatalambanw ta kybernhtika organa.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, sxetika me to qema poy exei prokycei me th metafora stratiwtikoy polemikoy ylikoy apo thn Toyrkia se aerodromio ths Kyproy. Ti ginetai me ayto to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pragmati, exoyn ginei kapoies tetoies metafores. Eixe aposyrqei palaiotera ayto to yliko me thn profash ths episkeyhs, kai twra, apo o,ti fainetai, epestrece. Ekeino poy qelw na sxoliasw einai to ejhs: Tetoioy eidoys kinhseis den petyxainoyn tipota perissotero apo to na dhmioyrgoyn h na ayjanoyn tis entaseis se mia eyaisqhth perioxh. Qa perimename apo thn toyrkikh pleyra, se mia epoxh poy o dialogos ejelissetai, na epideiknyei mia pio ypeyqynh stash. H adiallajia den einai kalos symboylos. Ekeino poy qeloyme na systhsoyme einai na qymhqei h toyrkikh pleyra oti den exei petyxei tipota me thn adiallajia, oti h dieqnhs koinothta apaitei na proxwrhsoyn oi synomilies gia to Kypriako kai na breqei lysh kai oti tetoies kinhseis poy dhmioyrgoyn entash qa prepei na apofeygontai. Emeis symballoyme qetika se ayto.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa kataggeilei h Ellada to gegonos sta dieqnh fora; To na leme oti qa kanoyme mia dhlwsh den apotelei kai tekmhrio. To qema einai, qa kanete kapoia kinhsh pros ta Hnwmena Eqnh; Qa diamartyrhqei h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Na eiste bebaios oti ginontai oles oi kinhseis.

Sas eyxaristw.


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