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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-03-21

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Martioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Qa hqela, eisagwgika, na anaferqw se dyo qemata.

To prwto qema, afora mia parathrhsh, me aformh tis dhlwseis toy arxhgoy ths N.D. K. Karamanlh, meta th synanthsh toy me ton Proedro ths Boylhs. O k. Karamanlhs milhse gia kaqysterhsh sthn chfish orismenwn ektelestikwn nomwn toy Syntagmatos, metajy twn opoiwn, qemata poy syndeontai me ta MME. Qewrw ayth th stash ths N.D. kai toy arxhgoy ths baqia ypokritikh. Eprepe na gnwrizoyn -kai to gnwrizoyn, bebaiws- oti exei ginei mia endelexhs proetoimasia toy sxedioy nomoy gia to asymbibasto, metajy basikoy metoxoy radiothleoptikoy mesoy kai epixeirhmatia poy synallassetai me to Dhmosio, me th symmetoxh olwn anejairetws twn forewn, alla kai olwn twn kommatwn, me ejairesh th N.D. Apo th mia, h N.D. arneitai, monh ayth kai apomonwmenh, na symmetasxei sto dialogo gia ena toso sobaro qema kai apo thn allh, o arxhgos ths diamartyretai gia dhqen kaqysterhsh, enw gnwrizei pws exoyn oloklhrwqei oi diadikasies kai epikeitai h kataqesh toy sxedioy nomoy. Kanw th sxetikh anafora gia na paradwsoyme th N.D. kai ton arxhgo ths, gia mia akomh fora, sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy, gia mia baqia ypokritikh stash.

To deytero qema: Xqes, paralabame, me ton k. Xristodoylakh, thn ekqesh ths Epitrophs poy ejetase tis 16 ypochfiothtes poy eixan ypoblhqei gia th qesh toy Proedroy kai Dieyqynontos Symboyloy ths ERT A.E. H Epitroph apoteleito apo:

-th Genikh Grammatea toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy kai MME k. Dhmhtra Sphliopoyloy ws Proedro,

-thn k. Aleka Korwnaioy, epikoyro kaqhghtria toy Tmhmatos Cyxologias toy Panteioy Panepisthmioy, me eidikothta sthn koinwniologia twn MME kai toy eleyqeroy xronoy,

-thn k. Kwnstantina Kallimanh, anaplhrwtria Proistamenh ths Dieyqynshs Epopteias MME toy Ypoyrgeioy Typoy,

-to nomiko mas symboylo k. Kwsta Droygka kai

-ton k. Aqanasio Papaiwannoy, Proistameno ths Dieyqynshs DEKO toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn.

H Epitroph, afoy ejetase analytika kai ypebale ekqesh gia thn ejetash ths tis 16 ypochfiothtes kai afoy eixe proswpikes synenteyjeis me pente apo toys ypochfioys poy qewrhse ws exontes ola ta typika prosonta, me bash thn prokhryjh, katelhje omofwna se mia protash. Katetaje toys pente se sygkekrimenh seira, me prwto proteinomeno ton k. Aggelo Stagko. Katopin aytoy kai meta thn ekqesh ths Epitrophs, o Ypoyrgos Typoy kai MME kai o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn, symfwnhsan sthn ypochfiothta toy k. Aggeloy Stagkoy ws Proedroy kai Dieyqynontos Symboyloy ths ERT, ypo thn krish panta ths gnwmhs toy ESR kai ths symfwnhs gnwmhs, meta thn ejetash poy qa ginei basei toy nomoy, ths Eidikhs Epitrophs ths Boylhs. Exoyme, dhladh, mprosta mas dyo diadikasies.

O k. Aggelos Stagkos einai ptyxioyxos ths ASOEE. Exei master of arts sth dhmosiografia kai tis dhmosies sxeseis apo to Panepisthmio Syracuse twn HPA. Exei yphrethsei ws arxisyntakths ston Oikonomiko Taxydromo, arxisyntakths politikoy kai eidhsewn ths efhmeridas "TO BHMA", ws dieyqynths eidhsewn kai enhmerwshs sto MEGA CHANNEL , ws arxisyntakths me eyqynh to syntonismo toy politikoy reportaz kai sth synexeia dieyqynths syntajhs sthn efhmerida "KAQHMERINH" kai bebaiws exei mia ploysia empeiria poy kalyptei, yperkalyptei apolyta qa elega, kata idiaitera ikanopoihtiko tropo tis apaithseis toy diagwnismoy. O k. Stagkos exei proskomisei kai antigrafo poinikoy mhtrwoy, oti den exei katadikastei me telesidikh dikastikh apofash gia ta adikhmata poy problepei o nomos kai pistopoihtiko stratologikoy grafeioy. Plhroi, loipon, ola ta typika kai oysiastika prosonta. Apo thn ejetash poy egine apo thn Eidikh Epitroph, diapistwqhke kai protaqhke omofwna ws prwtos apo toys 16 pros toys armodioys ypoyrgoys.

Katopin toytoy, qa ekdoqoyn oi sxetikes ypoyrgikes apofaseis, protaseis bebaiws pros to ESR kai sth synexeia pros thn armodia Epitroph ths Boylhs, meta th synodo ths opoias qa ginei kai h oristikh egkatastash toy sto radiomegaro ths ERT, ean bebaiws yparxei kai h egkrish ths Boylhs. Pisteyw oti tote qa dioristei, taytoxrona, kai to neo dioikhtiko symboylio ths.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Mporeite na mas peite thn 5ada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Htan me th seira poy qa sas diabasw, o k. Aggelos Stagkos, o k. Basileios Bambas, o k. Stelios Syrmogloy, o k. Dhmhtrhs Kwnstantaras kai o k. Nikos Marnieros.

Yphrxan polloi ypochfioi, kati poy prokyptei kai apo thn Ekqesh ths Epitrophs thn opoia exw sta xeria moy, poy den eixan h toylaxiston den apodeiknyan ta typika prosonta poy orizei o nomos kai h prokhryjh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Diabazw shmera sto "Rizospasth" ena prwtoselido dhmosieyma, to opoio anaferetai sthn ethsia ekqesh ths presbeias mas -kai sygkekrimena stelexoys ths- apo thn Agkyra pros to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai h anafora einai gia to dialogo poy ginetai, opoy metajy allwn tonizetai oti h apostratikopoihsh twn ellhnikwn nhsiwn kata mhkos ths akths ths Anatolias kai h epektash ths dioikhshs ths Qrakhs, paramenoyn amesoi strathgikoi stoxoi ths Toyrkias. Hqela to sxolio sas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ginontai ekqeseis apo polloys yphresiakoys paragontes, oi opoioi emplekontai peri ta ellhno-toyrkika. Oi ekqeseis aytes den einai pantote symfwnes metajy toys. Ayto to rolo exoyn kai oi yphresiakes ekqeseis. Enas yphresiakos paragontas, enas anqrwpos mesa sthn ierarxia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, kanei tis ekqeseis toy pros thn politikh hgesia toy. Omws, thn eyqynh ths telikhs diamorfwshs twn apofasewn, twn ektimhsewn kai twn kinhsewn mas exei mono h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Kai bebaiws, ekfrazetai h qesh ayth dia twn dhlwsewn prwtistws toy k. Papandreoy, alla kai toy synoloy ths kybernhshs.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Poso th lambanei ypoch ths h kybernhsh kai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn ayth thn ekqesh; Kai an yparxei h dynatothta proseggishs meta apo aytes tis epishmanseis, tis opoies kanei o sygkekrimenos paragontas.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekqeseis ginontan, ginontai kai qa ginontai. Dioti, opws gnwrizete, kaqe armodios yphresiakos paragontas -opoy ki an brisketai mesa sthn ierarxia- toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, kanei tis ekqeseis toy. Den shmainei oti oles oi ekqeseis poy ginontai gia to ayto antikeimeno symfwnoyn metajy toys. Oi yphresiakes ekqeseis ekfrazoyn th gnwmh, thn apoch kai thn eishghsh yphresiakwn paragontwn. Yparxei h politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy, panw ap` ola, h opoia lambanei tis apofaseis. H politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy exei labei tis apofaseis ths kai einai ekeines oi opoies sas exoyn, kat` epanalhch, anakoinwqei kai apo mena, apo to synolo ths kybernhshs, alla eidikotera apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy ws epikefalhs toy ypoyrgeioy. Gnwrizete oti badizoyme me bash aytes tis ektimhseis poy ekfrazoyn thn kybernhsh.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Einai diaforetikh h ektimhsh ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn apo to periexomeno ths sygkekrimenhs ekqeshs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa kanw analysh twn ekqesewn. Kai mhn me bazete, bebaiws, kaqe fora poy diarreei mia ekqesh na prepei na kanoyme krish yphresiakwn ekqesewn kai na leme poy symfwnoyme kai poy diafwnoyme, giati tote qa xasei to rolo ths ayth h ekqesh. Einai mia yphresiakh ekqesh. To ti qa lhfqei ypoch apo ayth kai ti den qa lhfqei, as to afhsoyme sthn krish ekeinwn poy exoyn thn eyqynh. Den prepei o Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos na krinei ekqeseis yphresiakwn paragontwn toy oioydhpote ypoyrgeioy.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Ekproswpeite thn kybernhsh. Egw, zhtw thn apoch ths kybernhshs.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh exei poly safeis apoceis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: En katakleidi, pisteyete oti yparxei h dynatothta proseggishs metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias, meta kai apo aytes tis opoies parathrhseis twn diaforwn paragontwn, poy den einai bebaia tyxaioi paragontes;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxei panta, kata th gnwmh mas, h dynatothta epilyshs mias seiras diaforwn gia tis opoies exoyme anaferqei analytika, mesa apo to dialogo -poy brisketai sto diereynhtiko stadio ayth th stigmh- metajy ths ellhnikhs kai ths toyrkikhs kybernhshs. Gnwrizete oti exoyn ginei prospaqeies diereynhshs twn dynatothtwn toy dialogoy kai eidika gia krisima qemata, opws einai to qema ths yfalokrhpidas toy Aigaioy kai epilyshs toys, mesw ths diadikasias poy exoyn epilejei to Dieqnes Dikaio kai h E.E. Kai gnwrizete poies einai aytes. Aytos o dialogos exei proxwrhsei diereynhtika. Einai poly nwris gia na ton krinoyme. Einai poly nwris gia na bgaloyme symperasmata. Den qa eimaste oyte yperaisiodojoi, oyte yperapaisiodojoi. To kalytero apo ola, einai na exoyme staqerothta stis qeseis mas, na tis analyoyme sth Dieqnh Koinothta -kai to kanoyme- na ejasfalizoyme dieqnh sthrijh panw stis qeseis mas, na kaloyme thn toyrkikh pleyra na egkataleicei thn kata kairoys adiallakth stash ths se mia seira qemata kai bebaiws, na epidiwkoyme, mesw toy dialogoy, thn antimetwpish twn opoiwn diaforwn yparxoyn. Ayth einai h staqerh stash mas, ayto einai to staqero pisteyw mas. An h Toyrkia epiqymei to dialogo h den ton epiqymei, qa apodeixqei sthn prajh. Ayth th stigmh den mporw na kanw probleceis.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Paramenei staqerh h qesh ths Toyrkias gia thn apostratikopoihsh...

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, apanthsei.

KARGOYDH: Sthn eishghsh poy ekane o armodios ypoyrgos Ergasias Dhmhtrhs Reppas, diatypwqhkan alles apoceis gia to asfalistiko;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yphrje omofwnh egkrish apo oloys toys symmetexontes sthn eishghsh poy diatypwse to ypoyrgeio Ergasias, se synergasia me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn. Prepei na sas pw oti eixe prohghqei synergasia twn dyo ypoyrgeiwn. Ejalloy, thn idia apoch eixe kai o Grammateas ths K.E. toy PASOK Kwstas Laliwths, giati -opws gnwrizete- htan koinh atyph synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs me to Ektelestiko Grafeio toy PASOK. Katalhjame omofwna se ayto to plaisio. O dialogos ejelissetai kai piqanon na prokycoyn, meta tis synomilies poy ginontai me tis syndikalistikes organwseis, nea stoixeia. Alla, to basiko plaisio, oi basikes kateyqynseis egkriqhkan omofwna. Qelw na shmeiwsw oti yphrje enas ploysios dialogos. Zhthqhkan dieykriniseis, eginan parathrhseis, diatypwqhkan problhmatismoi kai katalhjame omofwna.

MOYRTHS: Poia einai h ektimhsh ths kybernhshs gia th stash ths Toyrkias; Paramenei h idia, exei sklhrynei h exei amblynqei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ejartatai apo ta qemata. Gia paradeigma, to oti ginontai diereynhtikes epafes, ayth th stigmh, gia dialogo, me skopo thn epilysh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn diaforwn, einai mia qetikh ejelijh, estw kai an einai diereynhtikoy xarakthra oi epafes. To gegonos oti jekinhsan syzhthseis, metajy toy Proedroy Glaykoy Klhridh kai toy ekproswpoy ths toyrkokypriakhs pleyras Raoyf Ntenktas, einai qetikh ejelijh. Bebaiws, tipota den prodikazei oti aytes oi ejelijeis qa synexisoyn na exoyn qetiko xarakthra, mexri teloys. Den mporoyme na ekfrastoyme me apolyth aisiodojia. Tis parakoloyqoyme, exoyme tis qeseis mas, tis analyoyme sth dieqnh koinothta, doyleyoyme me bash oloklhrwmenh strathgikh eirhnhs, synergasias, omalothtas, epilyshs twn diaforwn sto plaisio toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy kai ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, enocei ths episkechs Ferxoigken sthn Aqhna, yparxoyn kapoies plhrofories -den jerw ean einai alhqeis kai sas kalw na sxoliasete- oti o Xani, o eidikos diapragmateyths twn Bretanwn, alla kai kapoioi kykloi epejergazontai sxedia politikhs epilyshs, alla kai entajhs ths Kyproy sthn E.E. poy qa parekklinoyn kata ti apo to koinotiko kekthmeno. Exete kati tetoio ypoch sas;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na tonisw oti symfwna me tis apofaseis ths E.E. oi kinhseis poy ginontai gia thn entajiakh diadikasia, akoloyqoyn apokleistika toys oroys kai tis proypoqeseis poy exei qesei gia oloys h .E.E. Kai etsi prepei na proxwrhsoyme. Otan h Kypros petyxei toys stoxoys, poy isxyoyn gia oles tis ypo entajh xwres sthn E.E., prepei na entaxqei. Ayth einai h apoch ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs. Bebaiws, me thn idia apofash qa prepei na entaxqoyn kai oi alles ypo entajh xwres poy plhroyn ta krithria.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: H kybernhsh fobatai mhpws, enocei kai toy xronodiagrammatos toy Ioynioy, yparjei mia piesh gia lysh poy den qa einai symfwnh me tis qeseis mas kai qa kaqysterhsei thn entajh ths Kyproy sthn E.E.;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei tetoia endeijh, ayth th stigmh. Qelw na qymisw, tis molis, pro dimhnoy, dhlwseis toy k. Ferxoigken, alla kai toy k. Pronti sth Leykwsia.

GEROPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos, meta th lhjh ths koinhs synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy toy PASOK, dhlwse oti to kratos qa diasfalisei toys anagkaioys prosqetoys poroys gia th sthrijh toy neoy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean elhfqhsan sygkekrimenes apofaseis gia ejeidikeymena metra ejasfalishs aytwn twn prosqetwn porwn apo ton kratiko proypologismo.

PRWTOPAPAS: H analytikh anafora kai ta sygkekrimena metra qa sas doqoyn apo ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn Niko Xristodoylakh, sto epomeno xroniko diasthma. Apaiteitai peraiterw epejergasia, dioti xreiazetai na ypologistoyn akribws kapoia posa. O dialogos ejelissetai kai kapoia pragmata allazoyn. Epishs, xreiazetai kai h symbolh analogistwn apo thn agglikh etaireia poy exei analabei tis sxetikes epejergasies. Omws, h apofash einai staqerh kai safhs. To kratos qa analabei tis eyqynes toy kai qa eggyhqei th biwsimothta ths lyshs toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Lysh biwsimh kai dikaih. Gnwrizete oti kai oi ergazomenoi syneisferoyn. Kai oi ergodotes syneisferoyn. To kratos analambanei tis dikes toy eyqynes. Olh h koinwnia prepei na syneisferei sthn epilysh toy Asfalistikoy. Me ayth thn ennoia, sto plaisio ths trimeroys xrhmatodothshs poy qa symfwnhqei me to dialogo, to kratos qa katabalei to diko toy meridio. Peran aytoy, sto plaisio enos eidoys symbolaioy me to IKA, qa yparxei mia katabolh posoy apo to kratos, arxhs genomenhs apo twra, poy qa proorizetai -mesa kai apo kefalopoihtika systhmata- gia thn kalych ths koinwnikhs asfalishs kai thn plhrh oikonomikh diasfalish ths.

KONTOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, hqela na rwthsw ean h kybernhsh protiqetai na labei kapoia metra gia thn efarmogh ths apofashs toy ESR na kopoyn dyo thleoptikes ekpompes. Protiqetai h kybernhsh na empodisei ta sygkekrimena kanalia na ekpemcoyn tis ekpompes poy apagoreyse to ESR;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epitrecte moy na pw, epeidh shmera eixame oloi thn eykairia na doyme se thleoptikes ekpompes kai na akoysoyme se radiofwnikes ekpompes melh toy ESR, oi opoies -apo o,ti plhroforhqhka- synexizontai akomh. Exete, loipon, katalabei oloi oti yphrjan kai yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis kai diafwnies sto ESR kai oti ayth th stigmh den yparxei apofash. Gnwrizoyme apo tis synenteyjeis poy parakoloyqhsame oti h synedriash toy ESR qa synexistei ayrio. Gi` ayto akribws den qa hqela na apotelesei to Ypoyrgeio Typoy kai MME ena mhxanismo parembashs se ena qema idiaitera sobaro poy brisketai se ejelijh. Dioti to ESR einai mia anejarthth arxh kai den parembainoyme sth diadikasia twn apofasewn ths. Bebaiws kai oi anejarthtes arxes krinontai. As labei thn apofash toy to ESR ayrio kai qa exete thn eykairia na enhmerwqeite analytika kai gia thn apoch toy ypoyrgeioy.

KONTOPOYLOS: Ean o Proedros toy ESR sas zhthsei sthrijh, prokeimenoy na ylopoihsei ws anejarthth arxh mia apofash, mia entolh toy, to ypoyrgeio Typoy qa sthrijei ton Proedro toy ESR na ylopoihsei thn apofash toy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas ypenqymisw oti o nomos kai eidikotera to arqro 15 orizei oti "o Proedros toy ESR mporei se epeigoysa periptwsh profanoys parabiashs ths radiothleoptikhs radiofwnias na diatassei thn anabolh h th diakoph metadoshs sygkekrimenoy programmatos. Mesa se apokleistikh hmeromhnia triwn hmerwn h olomeleia toy Symboylioy apofainetai oristika gia th metadosh h mh toy sygkekrimenoy programmatos". Ara, ekeino poy anamenei to ypoyrgeio einai h ekfrash ths olomeleias toy ESR symfwna me to nomo. To ypoyrgeio den krinei kai den topoqeteitai se apoceis proswpwn. Krinei kai topoqeteitai se apoceis qesmoqethmenwn organwn. Sthn prokeimenh periptwsh exoyme mia anejarthth arxh, h opoia den exei akomh katalhjei se apofash. Opws akoysame kai eidame, se sxetikes radiothleoptikes ekpompes, ta melh toy ESR ekfrazoyn teleiws diaforetikes apoceis. Kata synepeia to kalytero poy exoyme na kanoyme kai ayth pisteyw einai mia stash eyqynhs einai na mhn kanoyme kamia parembash se mia synedriash poy ejelissetai. Qa perimenoyme thn oloklhrwsh kai to apotelesma ths synedriashs kai me to qarros poy exoyme qa topoqethqoyme se o,ti afora to apotelesma.

KONTOPOYLOS: Ayta poy leei o Proedros toy ESR einai mia opoiadhpote apoch, o Proedros einai ena opoiodhpote melos h einai organo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa synistoysa na prosejete to nomo, o opoios anaferei oti mesa se apokleistikh proqesmia triwn hmerwn h olomeleia toy ESR apofainetai oristika gia th metadosh h mh enos sygkekrimenoy programmatos.

KONTOPOYLOS: Oxi oristika, proswrina. An o Proedros toy ESR@;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den krinei to ypoyrgeio proswrina metra, giati den einai oyte eisaggeleas, oyte dikasthrio, gia na lambanei apofaseis asfalistikwn metrwn. Ayta einai armodiothta ths dikaiosynhs kai oxi twn ypoyrgeiwn, oxi ths politikhs. H politikh leitoyrgei diaforetika. Exoyme epideijei sebasmo sthn anejarthth arxh kai gnwrizete poly kala pws exw poreytei aytoys toys mhnes. Bebaiws, mporei kapoia stigmh na symfwnoyme h na diafwnoyme, alla exoyme to qarros na to leme. Me apofaseis kai oxi me ekdhlwsh proqesewn. To xeirotero poy qa mporoyse na kanei enas ypoyrgos htan na parembei se mia synedriash h opoia brisketai akomh se ejelijh. Idiaitera malista otan gnwrizei, ws poliths ayths ths xwras, opws gnwrizete oloi, oti stoys kolpoys toy ESR yparxoyn kai diaforetikes apoceis. Apo th stigmh, loipon, poy yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis kai diafwnies, alla bebaiws kai apo sebasmo sthn anejarthth arxh den parembainoyme. Perimenoyme tis apofaseis, oi opoies qa lhfqoyn kata pasan piqanothta ayrio -ayth einai h plhroforhsh poy exoyme- kai qa topoqethqoyme dhmosiws kai qa apanthsoyme plhrws sta erwthmata sas.

IWANNOY: Eipate oti oi opoies apofaseis toy ESR einai kai qa einai sebastes. Qelw omws na rwthsw poio einai to sxolio sas sthn apofash toy k. Lampridh, apo xqes to brady kiolas -kai ayto malista to maqame apo ton k. Kokkino kai oxi apo ton k. Lampridh- na dwsei entolh na mh metadoqoyn aytes oi ekpompes, enw akomh den eixe sygklhqei to ESR kai den eixe bgei h apofash poy eseis opws lete profanws oloi qa sebastoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Pisteyw oti kalyptei to erwthma sas h prohgoymenh apanthsh moy kai malista apolyta. Tonisa oti den krinw skopimo na parembw se mia ejelissomenh synedriash mias anejarthths arxhs. Qa htan atophma ek meroys moy na askhsw parembash se ena qema to opoio krinw ws idiaitera sobaro. Qa perimenw thn oloklhrwsh ths diadikasias poy ws fainetai qa ginei ayrio to meshmeri. Kai tote qa exoyme thn eykairia epi sygkekrimenwn apofasewn na syzhthsoyme kai na topoqethqoyme analytika. Kai qa topoqethqoyme analytika.

IWANNOY: Den rwthsa gia th diadikasia poy einai se ejelijh, alla gia th xqesinobradinh apofash toy k. Lampridh.

PRWTOPAPAS: H synedriash ginetai gia na ejetasei thn apofash toy k. Lampridh kai oxi gia kapoio asxeto qema. Sth synedriash opws gnwrizete oloi -kai to gnwrizete dioti ta melh toy ESR topoqetoyntai anoikta- oti ejetazetai h egkrish h mh ths kinhshs poy ekane o k. Lampridhs. Epomenws einai synedriash se ejelijh mias anejarthths arxhs kai den qa eprepe na zhtate apo to ypoyrgeio poy epopteyei na parembei sthn ejelissomenh diadikasia mias anejarthths arxhs. Ayto qa htan atophma. Perimenoyme na oloklhqei h diadikasia. Bebaiws, eimaste politikoi, exoyme th gnwmh mas, exoyme th qesh mas, exoyme thn apoch mas kai na eiste bebaioi oti qa exoyme kai plhrh topoqethsh.

MOYRTZHS: Mas eipate oti perimenoyme thn apofash ths olomeleias toy ESR. Ayto ti shmainei; Shmainei oti perimenete omofwnia h mia apofash@

PRWTOPAPAS: Sth dhmokratia gnwrizete oti oi apofaseis lambanontai, oxi pantote me omofwnia.

MOYRTZHS: Yparxoyn apofaseis poy lambanontai me omofwnia kai apofaseis poy lambanontai me chfoys yper kai kata.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai kaqe apoch exei th barythta ths. Alla se kaqe periptwsh yparxei apofash.

MOYRTZHS: Gnwrizete oti eixe doqei apo ta melh toy ESR h dynatothta ston Proedro na xeiristei en leykw to qema;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den to gnwrizw ayto. Prepei na sas pw oti to plhroforhqhka afoy eixe ekdhlwqei h parembash toy k. Lampridh.

MOYRTZHS: Ti lete gia tis prwimes antidraseis, mias kai den exei ekdoqei apofash, poy anaferoyn oti h qesh ayth toy Proedroy einai plhgma kata ths eleyqerotypias;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas parapempw stis prohgoymenes apanthseis moy.

ELENOPOYLOS: Eseis mexri stigmhs den exete enhmerwsh apo ton Proedro;

PRWTOPAPAS: Moy thlefwnhse xqes to brady, alla hmoyn ektos grafeioy. Epikoinwnhsa mazi toy kai enhmerwqhka shmera to prwi.

IWANNOY: Xqes, sth synedriash toy KTE poy eixate sth Boylh eipate oti oi thleoptikes adeies qa doqoyn mallon apo to neo ESR. Shmera o k. Kaklamanhs, apantwntas se erwthsh mas pote qa sygkrothqei ayto to neo ESR, eipe oti den biazetai kai oti den yparxei kanenas logos ayth th stigmh na jekinhsei kapoia diadikasia. Ayto telika ti shmainei; Den yparxei metajy sas synennohsh gia to ti qa ginei me to ESR kai tis adeies twn thleoptikwn staqmwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den gnwrizw ti akribws eipe o Proedros ths Boylhs. Qelw, omws, na ypenqymisw oti apo ta telh Ianoyarioy exw apeyqynei epistolh gia th sygkrothsh toy neoy ESR. Kai bebaiws -opws eipa kai xqes sth syzhthsh sto KTE- yparxoyn dyo endexomena:

To prwto einai na gnwmodothsei to ESR kai na apodexqei to poqen esxes poy kateqesan ta kanalia, ta opoia zhthsan adeia, na kanei moriodothsh kai na eishghqei pros to ypoyrgeio, opote qa askhsoyme ton elegxo nomimothtas kai qa proxwrhsei h diadikasia ths adeiodothshs amesws, opws synhqizoyme.

To deytero einai na mh symfwnhsoyn sto poqen esxes, opote anakyptei qema gia to diagwnismo.

Ayto, omws den mporei na to jerw ayth th stigmh kai den nomimopoioyme bebaiws na epibalw th dikh moy apoch.

MOYRTZHS: Hqela na rwthsw ean qa kanete ektelesth thn apofash toy ESR gia tis dyo ekpompes, eite einai me omofwnia, eite oxi.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti qa topoqethqoyme analytika ayrio, meta thn apofash toy ESR.

Eyxaristw.


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