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Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-05-22

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 22 Maioy 2002

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

BITALHS: Sthn omilia sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada poy oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti "qa diaceystoyn kai pali osoi elpizoyn kai prosdokoyn oti oi boyleytes toy PASOK qa symbaloyn se apostaqeropoihsh kai se anwmales politikes ejelijeis". Oti "allo h kritikh kai allo h krish, h kritikh kai h aytokritikh mas". Diaisqanetai kati o Prwqypoyrgos, exei kapoia plhroforhsh kai kanei ayth thn parathrhsh; Giati kanei ayth thn parathrhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Nomizw oti oloi exete diabasei tetoies analyseis...

BITALHS: Dhladh, h apanthsh htan mono stis analyseis kai ta sxolia toy Typoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh dhmioyrghqhke mia eikona poy adikei thn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK, o Prwqypoyrgos qewrhse oti prepei na parembei me ton tropo poy parenebh. Mhn jexnate oti h K.O. einai to pio shmantiko organo toy kommatos, dioti sthrizei thn kybernhtikh pleiochfia. Einai, loipon, idiaitera shmantikos o rolos twn boyleytwn mas kai einai logiko na qeloyme ayto poy isxyei, dhladh thn enothta ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas mas, th dynamh ths, thn apofasistikothta ths kai thn prowqhsh toy ergoy mas, to opoio prepei na anadeiknyoyme. Qeloyme na anadeiknyoyme ayth th dynamh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas mas.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Qelw na rwthsw gia to qema twn Palaistiniwn. Gnwrizoyme oti hrqan prin apo mia wra oi dyo Palaistinioi. Poy qa apeyqynqoyme gia na plhroforhqoyme poy qa pane; Gnwrizete se poio jenodoxeio einai, ti qa ginei apo edw kai pera;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw -giati prepei na krathsoyme to rolo ths syzhthshs mas edw- na ypeiselqw se polles leptomereies. Anaferomaste edw, kyriws sto politiko meros. Oi dyo Palaistinioi exoyn erqei kai einai sto jenodoxeio "Kareas", alla leptomereies gyrw apo to qema qa doqoyn apo to ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs, opws prepei. Ekeino poy exw na pw -opws sas tonisa kai xqes- einai oti oi anqrwpoi aytoi hrqan sthn Ellada sth bash ths symfwnias poy egine sthn E.E. Qa filojenhqoyn apo th xwra mas. Einai eleyqeroi, den einai ypo periorismo. Bebaiws, prostateyontai kai to katalabainete poly kala ayto. Prepei na synennooyntai, gia th dikh toys prostasia, me tis arxes. Yparxei kai h stenh synergasia me tis edw palaistiniakes arxes gia tyxon zhthmata poy anakyptoyn h tis leptomereies gia tis opoies qa enhmerwqeite armodiws.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Se poia perioxh einai to jenodoxeio kai an h prosbash einai anoikth sta MME.

PRWTOPAPAS: Edw kanoyme politikh syzhthsh. Gia ola ta ypoloipa zhthmata, qa enhmerwqeite armodiws. Qelw na sas tonisw oti akomh kai gia thn eisodo toys sth xwra, yphrje eidikh synennohsh twn armodiwn arxwn me tis palaistiniakes arxes kai pio sygkekrimena me thn edw presbeia ths Palaistinhs. Epomenws, me symfwnia, egine h eisodos. Me apolyth symfwnia, egine kai gia th dikh toys prostasia.

TAKHS: Se ena allo apospasma apo thn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, poy prokalese aisqhsh, ekeino poy eipe oti th N.D. th sthrizoyn oi nostalgoi toy parelqontos kai toy kaqestwtos. Epeidh aytes oi fraseis einai ligo fortismenes, otan anaferontai sto parelqon, mhpws jerete se ti akribws anaferotan;

PRWTOPAPAS: Stis dynameis ekeines poy sthrizoyn th N.D. Dynameis oi opoies anapoloyn kai to parelqon -to idiaitera arnhtiko parelqon gia thn Ellada- kai to kaqestws poy kapote h paratajh ths Dejias eixe egkatasthsei ston topo mas. Anaferqhka kai egw, xqes, se orismenes apo aytes tis dynameis, dioti h N.D. einai taytismenh me th diaplokh.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos apanta stis analyseis twn dhmosiografwn, otan anaferetai se apostaqeropoihsh kai anwmales politikes ejelijeis h exei kati ypoch toy, oti yparxoyn ejwqesmika kentra ejoysias, ta opoia sxediazoyn mia syntagmatikh ektroph;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den akoysa kati tetoio sth shmerinh omilia.

MOYRTZHS: Rwtw, ean exei ypoch toy mono tis analyseis twn dhmosiografwn h exei kati allo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat` arxas, yparxei h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, thn opoia gnwrizete. Anaferqhke sygkekrimena se kapoia pragmata poy dhmosieyqhkan, ta sxoliase kai nomizw oti prepei na meinoyme ekei. Bebaiws, o kaqenas exei dikaiwma na diatypwsei tis kriseis toy.

KOYTANTOY: Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs sthn kritikh poy askei h xqesinh ekqesh toy Steit Ntipartment gia thn tromokratia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai h gnwsth synhqismenh ekqesh poy syntassetai edw kai polla xronia apo tis amerikanikes arxes. Ekeino poy ajizei ton kopo na parathrhsei kaneis me th fetinh ekqesh, einai oti h proodos poy exoyme kanei einai megalh kai exei anagnwristei dieqnws. Kai malista, exei anagnwristei kai apo ekeinoys poy mas kathgoroysan kai mas ekanan kritikh sto parelqon.

KARASABBA: Qelw na epistrecw sto qema twn Palaistiniwn: O k. Kasoylidhs shmera eipe oti, afoy kai otan aporrofhqoyn oi Palaistinioi aytoi, stis eji xwres, tiqetai qema gia to an mia apo aytes tis eji xwres, symperilambanomenhs ths Elladas, qa dexqei na parei ton 13o poy exei meinei sthn Kypro. Hqela na rwthsw, ean yparxei proqesh apo ellhnikhs pleyras, endexomenws, ean einai anoikth na dexqei ayton ton 13o poy exei meinei sthn Kypro.

PRWTOPAPAS: O,ti ginetai, ginetai me apofash twn "15", o,ti allazei, qa allazei mono me apofaseis twn "15".

KARASABBA: To apokleiete, dhladh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa poly sygkekrimena. O,ti allazei, qa allazei me apofaseis twn "15". Ean yparjei nea apofash twn "15", qa enhmerwqeite. Den qa ginetai, dhladh, kinhsh mono apo th dikh mas pleyra, memonwmenh.

ORKIN: Yparxei periptwsh sto mellon na epitrecete stis oikogeneies twn dyo Palaistiniwn na erqoyn sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den jerw ti qa ginei sto mellon. Gnwrizete oti h paramonh toys einai proswrinh kai entassetai sto plaisio mias politikhs apofashs, thn opoia elabe to Symboylio Genikwn Ypoqesewn ths E.E. Ean me rwthsete ti shmainei xronika to "proswrinh", den mporw na sas apanthsw ayth th stigmh. Kai to katalabainete poly kala, giati einai qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn epilysh ths krishs sthn Palaistinh. Den mporw na gnwrizw pote akribws kai me poio tropo qa yparjei epilysh.

MOYRTZHS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe kai kati allo, oti den tairiazei sto PASOK na exei bwboys boyleytes. To erwthma einai, ean aytoi oi boyleytes den exoyn to xarisma toy legein h syneidhta den apantoyn stis epikriseis twn ypoloipwn.

PRWTOPAPAS: Mia prosektikh anagnwsh ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa apanthsei sto erwthma sas.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Xqes, ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs sth Boylh gia to nomosxedio, gia to basiko metoxo, kathggeilan oti to sxedio nomoy afhnei pantelws anejelegkth thn anameijh kai drash twn off shore etaireiwn sta MME. Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean kata th dikh sas ektimhsh, to yparxon sxedio nomoy einai pio aysthro sto plaisio toy apo to nomo Benizeloy, o opoios -an qymamai kala- apagoreye pantelws stoys epixeirhmaties poy eixan sxesh me ta MME, na metexoyn se off shore etaireies.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrxe oydemia apagoreysh sto nomo 2328. H apagoreysh, den eixe sxesh mono me tis off shore etaireies, alla genikotera me th symmetoxh epixeirhmatia poy exei MME se etaireia poy synallassetai me to Dhmosio. Efoson, loipon, den mporei na metexei kai stis dyo, ara den mporei na metexei kai se off shore. Den htan onomastika gia tis off shore etaireies. Ayto to anaferw, dioti, o,ti ginetai me tis off shore prepei na ginetai sto plaisio ths eyrwpaikhs nomoqesias. Efoson, loipon, gia thn ellhnikh nomoqesia den mporoyse o idiokthths MME na metexei se etaireia poy synallassetai me to Dhmosio, ara den mporoyse kai o idiokthths MME na metexei kai se off shore etaireia poy synallassetai me to Dhmosio. Den allazei se tipota ayto. H diafora einai, opws jerete, pws oi tyxon epiqymoyntes na symmetexoyn h na idryoyn off shore etaireies, den to dhlwnoyn. To pragmatiko problhma me tis off shore einai oti den fainetai o idiokthths. Den mporeis esy, dhladh, na apodeijeis eykola oti o pragmatikos idiokthths ths off shore etaireias, einai o ``x'' h o ``c'',. Ayto poy prepei na kaneis gia na prostateyqeis exei dyo pleyres: H prwth einai h enisxysh, kata to dynaton, ths eyrwpaikhs -kai sto plaisio ths eyrwpaikhs kai ths ellhnikhs- nomoqesias gia tis off shore etaireies, gia ton elegxo toys. Exoyme kanei idiaitera diabhmata kai prospaqeies sthn E.E. kai qa tis synexisoyme gia na elegxqoyn oi off shore etaireies. Kai sto plaisio ths eyrwpaikhs nomoqesias -sas exw hdh anaferei- o k. Xristodoylakhs protiqetai na labei sygkekrimena metra gia tis off shore etaireies. Deyteron, yparxoyn periptwseis off shore etaireiwn, oi opoies emfanisthkan sto sygkekrimeno diagwnismo, sthn prokhryjh gia th xorhghsh twn thleoptikwn adeiwn eqnikhs embeleias. Basei ths eyrwpaikhs nomoqesias, den mporeis na apagoreyseis na emfanistei kapoia off shore etaireia. Ti kaname omws; Zhthsame apo tis off shore na mas feroyn ta stoixeia toys, ta panta: Ependyseis me metoxes, kefalaia kai bebaia proswpa, poy apoteloyn tis off shore etaireies. Meta apo polles prospaqeies ejanagkasthkan na dwsoyn ta sxetika stoixeia. Diapistwqhke apo ton elegxo poy ekane to ESR, oti ta proswpa poy emfanizontoysan den eixan th dynatothta na dikaiologhsoyn to ``poqen esxes'' gia mia toso megalh ependysh. Epomenws, aperrifqh h aithsh. Na, loipon, pws egine o elegxos kai pws aytos apedwse sygkekrimena apotelesmata.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Tote pws ejhgeitai oti o fakelos toy thleoptikoy staqmoy @T.V.MAGIC@ paramenei olon ayto to kairo sto ypoyrgeio Typoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epeidh to rwtate gia trith synexh hmera, qa hqela na prosejete th proxqesinh kai xqesinh apanthsh moy. Sas lew oti o elegxos diejagetai apo to ESR. Epomenws, twra poy qa dioristei to kainoyrgio ESR kai qa anoijei toys fakeloys twn kanaliwn perifereiakhs embeleias gia thn Attikh, qa zhthsei ola ta stoixeia kai toy sygkekrimenoy kanalioy kai twn allwn kanaliwn, bebaiws. Dioti eseis mporei na endiafereste gia ena, alla prepei na sas pw oti problhma qa yparjei gia arketa kanalia. Emeis den ta ``bazoyme'' me ena kanali, dhmioyrgoyme ena plaisio leitoyrgias poy ta afora ola. Giati ola anejairetws prepei na leitoyrgoyn symfwna me to nomo. Epomenws, einai safes oti se ayth thn periptwsh qa ginei endelexhs elegxos apo to ESR kai me plhrh dikh mas kalych kai bohqeia, se o,ti xreiastei. Kai stis adeies perifereiakhs embeleias sta kanalia. Ean diapistwqei h yparjh tetoiwn problhmatwn -lew ean diapistwqei, dioti den qelw na protrexw kai na biazomai- na eiste bebaioi oti den qa paroyn adeia. Epomenws, epeidh qa exei oloklhrwqei o diagwnismos, na sas qymisw oti opoios den parei adeia meta to telos toy diagwnismoy, kleinei.

PEGKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, ean gnwrizete thn etaireia kai pws efqase epistolh sto Megaro Majimoy gia na labei meros o Prwqypoyrgos se paixnidi me lotaria.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa hqela na sxoliasw ayta ta pragmata poy ekfeygoyn ths sobarothtas. Para polloi -kai anaferomai se aytes tis etaireies- kanoyn kinhseis poy kaqe allo para xarakthrizontai apo stoixeiwdh sobarothta. Bebaiws, ean yponoeite oti yparxei qema proswpikwn dedomenwn, qelw na sas qymisw oti yparxoyn sxetikes diatajeis kai ginontai prospaqeies na elegxqoyn oi etaireies aytes. Prepei ekeinoi poy dhmioyrgoyn, me opoiondhpote tropo, listes poy aforoyn onomata, dieyqynseis kai alla proswpika dedomena politwn, na exoyn ypoch toys oti ayto apagoreyetai aysthra kai oti proqesh twn Anejarthtwn Arxwn einai na baloyn tajh se olo ayto to pedio.

KAPPOS: Na epistrecw sthn ekqesh toy State Department. Gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Einai dektoi oi apajiwtikoi xarakthrismoi ek meroys toy State Department gia thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh; Mporei to State Department na anagoreyetai se anwtato kyrwtiko dikasthrio gia apofaseis ths Ellhnikhs Dikaiosynhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sto kommati ayto poy anaferetai sthn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh, qelw na pw oti -opws exoyme dhlwsei pros oles tis kateyqynseis- h Ellhnikh Dikaiosynh einai anejarthth, kanei poly kala th doyleia ths kai kaneis den nomimopoieitai na parembainei sto ergo ths.

KAPPOS: Skopeyei na antidrasei epishma apenanti se aytes tis anafores h ellhnikh kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme ekfrasei, hdh, pros oles tis pleyres tis apoceis mas gia thn ellhnikh Dikaiosynh. To epanalambanw kai shmera.

KAPPOS: Sthn Kypro einai gnwsto oti yparxei fobos gia qermo epeisodio. Yparxoyn probleceis gia Septembrio-Oktwbrio. O Kyprios Proedros, o opoios erxetai sthn Aqhna, prin anaxwrhsei apo th Larnaka shmera to prwi, den apekleise kai aytos to endexomeno qermoy epeisodioy. Eipe epi lejei, pws ``den apokleioyme to xeiristo kai o kalos noikokyrhs pairnei ola ta metra''. Hqela na rwthsw, ean kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh antistoixa qewrei ton eayto ths ``kalo noikokyrh'' kai ean yparxei kapoio sxolio gia thn ejodo toy ``SISMIC'' sto Aigaio to opoio, ap o,ti metadidetai kai den exei diaceysqei ews twra, kateyqynetai pros thn yfalokrhpida anamesa thn Kypro kai sthn Toyrkia.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh einai poly kalos noikokyrhs kai idiaitera sta eqnika qemata. Ean diabasete prosektika th shmerinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, qa deite oti ta eqnika qemata ta xeirizetai me sobarothta, akribeia, ypeyqynothta kai me qetiko tropo. Enhmerwnei ton ellhniko lao kai fysika enhmerwsh qa doqei kai sta politika kommata stis meqayrianes synanthseis toy.

Sto deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas: Parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta thn poreia toy toyrkikoy skafoys. Den yparxei kapoio problhma omws, mexri ayth th stigmh. Se ola ta eqnika zhthmata prepei na eimaste idiaitera cyxraimoi kai na dinoyme tis maxes, sta pedia poy emeis epilegoyme, xwris na kanoyme adikaiologhtes kinhseis.

BITALHS: Den sas exei problhmatisei to gegonos oti den yphrje estw h synhqhs ``nota'' apo toys paraktioys staqmoys ths Smyrnhs, oti bgainei gia thn ereyna;

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa oti parakoloyqoyme apo poly konta to skafos, me oles tis armodies arxes, oi opoies synergazontai apolyta metajy toys. Apo kei kai pera den exei dhmioyrghqei kanena problhma mexri ayth th stigmh. Epitrecte moy na sas pw oti ola ta gnwrizoyme, gia ola bgazoyme ta symperasmata mas. Emeis epilegoyme, omws, me poion tropo ekdhlwnoyme tis antidraseis mas. Gnwrizete oti h strathgikh mas einai na mh diaxeontai oi antidraseis mas se deytereyonta zhthmata, poy piqanon metaferoyn alloy to problhma, alla na synexizontai kai na enteinontai panw stoys megaloys eqnikoys stoxoys, opoy ekei qa kerdisoyme tis maxes.

KAPPOS: Anhsyxei h Aqhna apo thn piqanh ejagwgh krishs pros dysmas h pros to noto, ennow pros Ellada kai Kypro, ejaitias toy gegonotos oti to problhma ths ygeias toy Mpoylent Etzebit sthn Toyrkia exei prokalesei diafores anatarajeis sto eswteriko ths xwras.

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa moy epitrecete na mhn mpw sta eswterika ths geitonikhs xwras.

KAPPOS: Milhsa gia ta eswterika se sxesh me ta ejwterika. Hmoyn safhs.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto proypoqetei oti qa ermhneysoyme ta eswterika qemata ths, to opoio den protiqemai na kanw. Apo ekei kai pera, na eiste bebaios oti h Ellada parakoloyqei oles tis ejelijeis kai kaqe fora gnwrizei me poion tropo qa parembei pros th Dieqnh Koinothta gia na yperaspisei ta qemata ths. Parakoloyqei poly kala tis ejelijeis.

KOLIOPOYLOY: Epanerxomai sto qema twn Palaistiniwn. Hqela na rwthsw, ean ta aysthra metra poy exoyn lhfqei gia thn prostasia toys, qa synexistoyn kai an ta MME den qa exoyn prosbash sto jenodoxeio poy fylassontai ayth th stigmh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayta qa ta plhroforhqeite apo tis armodies arxes. Edw, qa parakaloysa na menoyme stis politikes diastaseis twn qematwn.

Sas eyxaristw.


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