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Greek Government Press Briefing, 05-05-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 12 Maioy 2005

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Shmera stis 6 to apogeyma o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei sto Megaro Majimoy me ton epitimo Proedro ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Kwnstantino Mhtsotakh.

Ayrio o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei sth Boylh sthn pro hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh gia thn ejwterikh politikh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poios zhthse ayth th synanthsh; O Prwqypoyrgos h o k. Mhtsotakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Opws gnwrizete exoyn janaginei tetoies synanthseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla exei shmasia poios th zhthse.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den to gnwrizw. Qa enhmerwqw kai qa sas apanthsw.

SPYRAKH: Exei dhmioyrghqei polys qorybos apo thn apofash ths Boylhs gia thn epidothsh twn prwhn boyleytwn se ena stadio prosarmoghs mexri thn epanodo toys sthn paragwgh. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio, kai an exete thn kalosynh mas lete apo poio kondyli toy proypologismoy proerxetai ayto to epidoma;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gnwrizw oti ayth thn wra h Proedros ths Boylhs enhmerwnei toys koinoboyleytikoys syntaktes sxetika me to qema.

TSIODRAS: Sxetika me thn apofash me ta leyka kai tis allages edrwn poy ginontai metajy twn boyleytwn. Skopeyei h kybernhsh na analabei kapoia nomoqetikh prwtoboylia, na probei se kapoia tropopoihsh toy eklogikoy nomoy wste na jeroyme sto mellon ti isxyei se sxesh me ta leyka chfodeltia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den tiqetai qema tropopoihshs toy eklogikoy nomoy.

SIDERHS: Tote poioi einai oi nomimoi boyleytes; Aytoi poy ejeleghsan me ayth th diadikasia poy symperilambanontai kai ta leyka h oi alloi; Exoyme boyleytes dyo taxythtwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw ti ennoeite. An ennoeite na krinw thn apofash toy dikasthrioy, den qa to kanw giati den krinw pote apofaseis dikasthriwn.

SIDERHS: Den ennow ayto. Poioi einai gia sas pio nomimoi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai dynaton na moy kanete thn erwthsh gia to ti einai pio nomimo; Den yparxei ligotero kai perissotero nomimo. Yparxei nomimo h oxi nomimo. Yparxei mia apofash toy dikasthrioy thn opoia den qa krinw, giati pote den krinw apofaseis dikasthrioy.

PALAIOLOGOS: Omws thn idia ayth apofash thn ekrine o k. Papandreoy, o Proedros toy PASOK, kai milhse gia politeiako ``oneidos''. Ayto shmainei h afhnei ton ypainigmo gia kapoia parembash, endexomenws ypogeia, ths kybernhshs se o,ti afora anakthsh ths edras apo ton k. Karamanlh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh kanei dhlwsh apo proxqes gia to qema.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, alla den jerw kata poso ypo ta shmerina dedomena isxyei akomh h dhlwsh sas.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxoyn shmerina dedomena. O k. Papandreoy ekane dhlwsh proxqes kai toy apanthsa proxqes. Den exei allajei kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ep` aytoy. Yphrje synanthsh toy k. Axillea Karamanlh me ton Prwqypoyrgo prin apo thn apofash toy eklogodikeioy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw an yphrje tetoia synanthsh. Sas qymizw omws oti o Prwqypoyrgos synantatai me toys syggeneis toy, opws kaqe Ellhnas poliths, xwris na anakoinwnetai. Alimono an den synantatai kaneis me toys syggeneis toy.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Prin apo ligo o Yfypoyrgos PEXWDE sth Boylh eipe oti h dhlwsh twn hmiypaiqriwn xwrwn synista poleodomikh parabash. Telika qa dhlwnontai sto E9 h oxi, opws eixe pei o Ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa moy epitrecete na eimai poly prosektikos otan moy metaferontai dhlwseis stelexwn ths kybernhshs. Oxi giati den exw empistosynh sta osa akoyte, alla giati sto parelqon- xwris na yparxei skopimothta- exw diapistwsei oti h metafora mias dhlwsews me thn apaleich- oxi skopimws epanalambanw- dhmioyrgei adika symperasmata. Qa ereynhsw ayto poy lete kai sth synexeia qa yparxei kapoio sxolio.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den jerw an hdh to exete kanei alla qa hqela na sxoliasete thn perifhmh trimerh ths Mosxas kai an pisteyei h ellhnikh kybernhsh oti briskomaste enwpion anoigmatos dialogoy poy mporei piqanws na odhgei se lysh toy Kypriakoy h qa prepei na eimaste ligo prosektikoi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw milhsei apo proxqes gia to qema.

SARANTAKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw an antapokriqhkan oi Ypoyrgoi sth systash poy toys aphyqyne o Prwqypoyrgos sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio oytws wste na enisxyqei ayth h prwinh syskech poy ginetai ypo thn proedria sas kai epishs na rwthsw an gnwrizete an parallhlws leitoyrgei sth Rhgillhs ayto to opoio eixe pei o k. Meimarakhs gia thn parakoloyqhsh twn hlektronikwn meswn kai thn amesh enhmerwsh twn Ypoyrgwn kai twn Yfypoyrgwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Diagrafw th lejh parakoloyqhsh. Den parakoloyqei kaneis ta Mesa. Ta Mesa ekpempoyn eleyqera ston aera. Akoyei loipon kapoios radiofwno, akoyei kai blepei tis thleoraseis, mporei na katagracei ta osa legontai. Leitoyrgei oytws h allws ena tmhma edw kai polla xronia. Se oti afora to prwto erwthma sas: Nai, yparxei symmetoxh pollwn Ypoyrgeiwn sthn prwinh syskech kai ginetai poly kalh doyleia.

KAKALHS: H kybernhsh apefyge na katadikasei thn parabiash toy panepisthmiakoy asyloy apo thn paroysia twn enoplwn astynomikwn kai th xrhsh astynomikhs bias. Ayto shmainei oti synainei sthn parabiash toy apo th meria twn astynomikwn; Kai ena deytero erwthma: Skeftetai na analabei prwtoboylia gia thn allagh toy isxyontos nomoqetikoy plaisioy gia to asylo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati gia to deytero erwthma sas. Se oti afora to prwto: Qewrw aytonohto oti den prepei na parabiazetai to asylo. To eipa kai sth dhlwsh poy ekana proxqes alla kai sthn enhmerwsh poy eixan osoi synadelfoi sas htan se ayth thn aiqoysa olh th bradia kata th diarkeia twn gegonotwn.

SIDERHS: Se poio gegonos nomizete oti ofeiletai poy mia synhqhs epeteiakh ekdhlwsh gia thn Prwtomagia, xqes, elabe xarakthristika antikybernhtikhs diadhlwshs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den prokeitai na apanthsw sto erwthma sas an nomizw h den nomizw. Einai dikh sas ektimhsh oti elabe ayta ta xarakthristika. Den prokeitai na ypeiselqw se peraiterw sxoliasmo. Kaqenas einai eleyqeros na ekfrazei tis apoceis toy, tis idees toy, toys problhmatismoys toy.

TSIODRAS: To oti den exete kati sxetika me to an skeftetai h kybernhsh na tropopoihsei to nomo gia to asylo, ayto shmainei oti@

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den yparxei tetoia skech. Na to jekaqarisoyme ayto. Den yparxei tetoia skech.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Yparxei katadikh ths xwras mas poy zhtaei apo thn Olympiakh Aeroporia na epistrecei xrhmata sto kratos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai yparxei. Anakoinwqhke shmera mia katadikh apo to Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. H prohgoymenh kybernhsh eixe prosfygei sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. H xwra mas katadikasthke kai ayto ofeiletai sthn oligwria ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs gia ton tropo me ton opoio xeiristhke o armodios ypoyrgos kai synolika h kybernhsh thn ypoqesh ths Olympiakhs Aeroporias. Einai mia katadikh poy den tima thn politikh ths kybernhshs toy k. Shmith, twn ypoyrgwn toy, thn Olympiakh Aeroporia gia thn opoia spatalhqhkan para polla xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy sthn prospaqeia, opws legotan tote, toylaxiston, na ejygianqei. Mia ejygiansh poy den hrqe. Kai apo thn allh pleyra yphrje kai prospaqeia na paraplanhqei kai h Komision. H ypoqesh meta thn Komision phge sto Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio ki etsi h xwra mas katadikasthke.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Kat` arxhn jeroyme kapoio poso, poso prepei na plhrwsei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi den to gnwrizw. Qa sas enhmerwsoyn apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

PAPAHLIOPOYLOS: Qa qelate na sxoliasete pws ejelissetai h ypoqesh me th DEKA kai to Xrhmatisthrio, kaqws opws gnwrizete einai xiliades oi ependytes poy prosdokoyn na paroyn pisw kapoia xrhmata.

ROYSOPOYLOS: H Nea Dhmokratia, ws Ajiwmatikh Antipoliteysh, eixe zhthsei th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs sth Boylh gia thn ypoqesh toy Xrhmatisthrioy, meta malista apo thn apostolh sxetikhs dikografias sth Boylh apo ton armodio eisaggelea. Sth syzhthsh poy egine tote sth Boylh, h protash ths Neas Dhmokratias katachfisthke apo toys boyleytes toy PASOK me apotelesma na mh systaqei ekeinh h Ejetastikh Epitroph, h opoia qa diereynoyse tis eyqynes twn ypoyrgwn toy PASOK, oi opoioi eixan thn eyqynh ths epopteias ths Dhmosias Epixeirhshs Kinhtwn Ajiwn (DEKA). Ektote, h dikografia epestrafh ston eisaggelea. H Eisaggelia oloklhrwse thn ereyna ths -ejalloy me exete rwthsei polles fores edw kai sas exw pei oti h ypoqesh einai sthn Eisaggelia- gia ta ypoloipa mh politika proswpa, ta opoia eixan emplakei sthn ypoqesh ws melh toy D.S. ths DEKA. Meta thn oloklhrwsh ths anakrishs ekdoqhke, proxqes, to boyleyma toy Symboylioy Efetwn me to opoio parapempontai se dikh sto Trimeles Efeteio Kakoyrghmatwn eji melh ths tote dioikhshs ths DEKA gia dyo kakoyrghmata. Qa perimenoyme kai thn apofash toy dikasthrioy. Einai safes oti h proqesh olwn twn Ellhnwn -ayto poy hqelan oloi oi Ellhnes, oxi monon osoi eixan ependysei sto Xrhmatisthrio kai epesan qymata mias apisteyths koroidias kai se polles periptwseis politikhs apaths- perimenan kai perimenoyn na yparjoyn an mh ti allo paradeigmatika kapoies timwries. Kai ayto den apotelei se kamia periptwsh ypodeijh se kanena dikasthrio -gia na mhn parejhghqei- apenanti se aytoys poy einai ypeyqynoi. Oi politika ypeyqynoi me bash ayto poy proanefera kai me th stash poy thrhse tote to PASOK den exoyn pleon kapoioy eidoys eyqynh. Exoyn, omws, thn politikh eyqynh poy einai shmantikh, h opoia toys barynei kai qa toys barynei. Apo ekei kai pera, ta ypoloipa mh politika proswpa exoyn parapemfqei sto dikasthrio kai elpizw oti syntoma h ypoqesh na oloklhrwqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Aytoi, omws, eixan thn kalych twn politikwn proswpwn. Aytoi poy twra parapempontai eixan thn kalych twn politikwn proswpwn. Aytoi, dhladh, qa meinoyn etsi, epeidh mesolabhsan ekloges;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Zoyme se mia dhmokratia syntagmatika katoxyrwmenh. Yparxoyn kanones kai oi kanones aytoi throyntai apo oloys. Einai bebaion, omws, oti sth syneidhsh toy Ellhna polith h prohgoymenh kybernhsh, h kybernhsh toy PASOK, ypoyrgoi ths kybernhshs toy PASOK, o idios o Prwqypoyrgos kinhqhkan me politiko tropo tetoio, o opoios einai aparadektos apenanti stoys Ellhnes polites ependytes toy Xrhmatisthrioy. Kai kinhqhkan me tropo, o opoios afhnei, opws eipa, stigma sthn politikh poreia toy PASOK, ws kybernhsh, se ayton ton topo.

SIDERHS: Einai pronomiako pedio gia sas na anafereste sto Xrhmatisthrio. As pame, omws, se ena allo qema. O k. Prwqypoyrgos zhthse.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den antilambanomai ti ennoeite ``pronomiako pedio'' gia mena. Egw pisteyw oti einai@

SIDERHS: Oxi proswpika gia sas. Den tiqetai pote qema proswpikhs aixmhs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den briskomai se ayth th qesh gia na ekproswpw ton eayto moy. Ekproswpw thn kybernhsh. Alimono, den qa parejhgoysa pote kamia erwthsh h opoia qa pisteye kapoios oti me afora proswpika. Den einai ``pronomiako pedio'' na milaei kaneis gia gegonota ta opoia mono qlich mporei na feroyn gia thn politikh poy askhqhke apo orismena proswpa se ayton ton topo.

SIDERHS: Den qa eimai egw ekeinos poy qa yperaspisw. Se kati allo: O k. Prwqypoyrgos zhtei apo thn Proedro ths Boylhs syzhthsh gia thn oikonomia, me eidikh aixmh to qema ths antagwnistikothtas poy epi twn hmerwn sas h kybernhsh, h Ellada apwlese eji qeseis. Mas perase kai h Iordania. Mhpws prepei ayth thn koybenta na thn kanei prwta me toys ypoyrgoys toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: To qema ths antagwnistikothtas kai to na anakhryxqei to 2005 etos antagwnistikothtas einai mia politikh prajh ayths ths kybernhshs. Oi energeies stis opoies exei probei hdh ayth h kybernhsh sta armodia ypoyrgeia einai poly shmantikes, wste na bohqhqei h antagwnistikothta. Na erqoyn nees ependyseis sthn Ellada. Ta ellhnika proionta, oi ellhnikes epixeirhseis na bgoyn sto ejwteriko. Yparxei ena oloklhro plaisio politikhs to opoio hdh exei arxisei na leitoyrgei kai ta apotelesmata toy qa einai para poly qetika. Kai gi` ayto eimaste apolytws bebaioi. Arnhtika apotelesmata mexri stigmhs exoyme dei apo politikes toy parelqontos, apo ekeines tis politikes poy mono problhmata dhmioyrghsan, se eyrwpaiko epipedo, sthn oikonomia kai sthn eikona ths xwras.

POYLIDOY: Epeidh apodokimasate thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh gia oligwria sto qema ths Olympiakhs. Qelw na sas rwthsw, h dikh sas kybernhsh poy profanws antimetwpizei xwris oligwria ayto to qema, ti apotelesmata exei ferei ews twra sto qema ths Olympiakhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, yphrje enas diagwnismos, o opoios eixe khryxqei agonos. Yparxei enas allos diagwnismos. Elpizoyme syntoma na exoyme kapoia apotelesmata. Gnwrizete, epishs, poly kala oti h Olympiakh exei apajiwqei, ws etaireia, me sfalmata, paraleiceis -gia na meinw se aytoys toys xarakthrismoys, toys opoioys qewrw poly synetoys- ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs. H Olympiakh Aeroporia einai mia etaireia poy antimetwpise para polla oikonomika problhmata. Ta xrhmata poy spatalhqhkan apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh kai phgan sto ``bronto'', opws leei o Ellhnas poliths, einai para polla. Plhsiazoyn to ena tris draxmes. Einai xrhmata Ellhnwn politwn, einai xrhmata eyrwpaikwn programmatwn, einai xrhmata poy sigoyra qa eixan bohqhsei thn oikonomia mas, wste na einai pio antagwnistikh kai perissotero apodotikh an eixan ependyqei swsta. H prohgoymenh kybernhsh, h opoia me kaqe eykairia, ws Antipoliteysh shmera, prospaqei na dhlwsei oti hjere na xeirizetai kalytera ta qemata se eyrwpaiko epipedo, gnwrize na xeirizetai kalytera ta problhmata, qa prepei na apologhqei shmera gi` aythn thn katadikh apo to Eyrwpaiko Dikasthrio. Katadikh, h opoia epanalambanw: Einai katadikh ths politikhs Shmith, katadikh ths politikhs twn ypoyrgwn toy k. Shmith.

KAKALHS: Exei kapoio politiko nohma h politiko mhnyma, opws grafei o filokybernhtikos Typos, h paraithsh ths kentrikhs paroysiastrias toy MEGA h se kaqe periptwsh exei emplakei h kybernhsh sthn olh ypoqesh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei sxetikh anakoinwsh gia to qema. Ta gegonota einai gnwsta. Den qa pw tipote perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to qema ths O.A. O Prwqypoyrgos epaneilhmmena exei desmeyqei oti qa yparjoyn rhjeis kai tomes kai malista prosfata me aformh ton eortasmo ths Prwtomagias, sth grapth dhlwsh toy ekane logo gia thn anagkaiothta rhjewn kai tomwn. Ean ejairesoyme thn ypoqesh ths O.A. se poies alles periptwseis apokratikopoihsewn h idiwtikopoihsewn exei probei h kybernhsh h anamenetai na probei, ektos ths ypoqeshs ths O.A., giati den exoyme dei fws mexri twra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oi ypoqeseis twn idiwtikopoihsewn den einai ypoqeseis poy teleiwnoyn me magiko tropo apo th mia mera sthn allh. Kat` arxas, exei shmasia na pisteyei kaneis se ayth th logikh. Giati to PASOK enw miloyse gia idiwtikopoihseis, prospaqoyse na kanei apokratikopoihseis me enan entelws esfalmeno tropo, opws qymaste. Bebaiws, htan ena bhma pros ta empros, apo ekeinh thn periodo opoy qa yphrxe mia kai mono metoxh se kapoies apo tis dhmosies yphresies, poy qa htan metoxh toy ellhnikoy laoy kai den qa proxwroyse pote se idiwtikopoihseis, idees ths oikonomikhs politikhs poy eixan akoystei se parelqonta xrono kai poy alles eyrwpaikes xwres eixan kanei prajh poly nwritera. Ftasame, loipon, sthn apajiwsh. Sas qymizw oti epi xronia to PASOK elege oti den qa proxwrhsei se idiwtikopoihsh ths O.A. Wspoy efqase kapoia stigmh o k. Shmiths, ligo meta to 2000, na milhsei sth DEQ gia thn anagkh na proxwrhsei ayth h ypoqesh. Otan ton rwthsan oi dhmosiografoi giati to leei twra -an kai tosa xronia h N.D. elege oti qa prepei na proxwrhsei ayth h ypoqesh ths idiwtikopoihshs- o k. Shmiths apanthse kaqe ti xreiazetai xrono gia na wrimasei. Ean loipon eixe wrimasei sto myalo toy PASOK h politikh twn idiwtikopoihsewn nwritera, qa eixan apofeyxqei polla apo ta shmerina problhmata kai den qa eixame se kamia periptwsh toys Ellhnes polites na plhrwnoyn gia mia seira etaireiwn toy dhmosioy kai kyriws thn kakodiaxeirish. Giati den einai oi etaireies poy mas ftaine, oyte oi yphresies poy prosferoyn. Einai h kakodiaxeirish twn stelexwn ths Dioikhshs. Ginontai, loipon, prospaqeies na proxwrhsoyn oi idiwtikopoihseis kai yparxoyn prospaqeies poy exoyn hdh apodwsei. Gia paradeigma: Gnwrizete oti yphrxe ena kratiko monopwlio gia thn energeia. Gnwrizete oti ayto to kratiko monopwlio exei stamathsei me bash tis odhgies ths E.E. edw kai kapoia xronia. To oti leitoyrgoyn hdh kapoia fwtoboltaika ergostasia ta opoia paraskeyazoyn reyma einai mia shmantikh prospaqeia gia thn allagh twn dedomenwn sto xwro ths energeias, h opoia pisteyw oti qa odhghsei kai sth meiwsh ths timhs ths energeias. Yparxoyn, loipon, prospaqeies poy synexizontai kai oi opoies apodidoyn kai qa apodidoyn. Se kaqe periptwsh, den qewrw oti qa htan dokimo na egkalei kaneis ayth thn kybernhsh giati ston enan xrono den exei kataferei na kanei ta panta, diorqwnontas laqh, paralhceis kai problhmata toy parelqontos. Jerete oti paralabame polla problhmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh oi prohgoymenes kybernhseis toy PASOK eixan ftiajei to nomo peri eyqynes ypoyrgwn sta metra toys gia na thn skapoylaroyn oi ypoyrgoi, mhpws skeftetai h kybernhsh twra na allajei to nomo kai na mhn th glitwnoyn ta politika proswpa apo diafores periptwseis adiafaneias;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den exw kati sxetiko na sas apanthsw. Mporw, omws, na rwthsw kai na sas pw ean yparxei kapoia tetoia skech sto armodio Ypoyrgeio.

GKOYTZANHS: Hqela na rwthsw se sxesh me to qema poy proekyce me to eklogodikeio. Ti qa isxysei stis epomenes ekloges me thn katametrhsh twn leykwn. Qa to dieyqethsei ayto h kybernhsh h qa afhsei to eklogodikeio kata periptwsh na krinei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw hdh apanthsei. Den tiqetai qema allaghs eklogikoy nomoy. Exw pei oti sebomaste mia apofash ths Dikaiosynhs kai den th sxoliazoyme. Apo kei kai pera, opoiadhpote alla erwthmata -poly pio ejeidikeymena apo ayta poy teqhkan- qa parakalesw na teqoyn sto armodio ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, wste na yparjoyn antistoixa episthmonika tekmhriwmenes apanthseis.

TSIODRAS: Qa hqela na sxoliasete th dhlwsh toy k. Poypakh, oti osa problhmata kai an parelabe h kybernhsh den dikaiologeitai sto na epiballei mia politikh litothtas. Ayth h dhlwsh sas briskei symfwnoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw th dhlwsh toy k. Poypakh. Qa sas pw oti den yparxei politikh litothtas. Ayth th stigmh h politikh poy akoloyqeitai einai politikh hpias prosarmoghs. Einai politikh thn opoia o Prwqypoyrgos ejhggelle se mhnyma toy me realismo kai eilikrineia, opws panta, pros toys Ellhnes polites. Einai mia politikh poy qa mas odhghsei, ektos twn atrapwn poy eixe odhghqei h oikonomia mas, sta epomena dyo xronia, katafernontas na meiwsoyme -sta oria poy exoyme symfwnhsei ws xwra-melos ths E.E.- to elleimma mas, dhmioyrgwntas synqhkes gia pio antagwnistikh kai anqhrh oikonomia.

TSIODRAS: Otan den exei peisqei, omws, ena koryfaio syndikalistiko stelexos ths N.D. pws qa peisqoyn oi Ellhnes polites oti ayta poy lete isxyoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den qa sxoliasw oyte qa mpw sth diadikasia na dw ean exei peisqei h oxi kapoio stelexos.

PEPONHS: Qa erqw sto proxqesino qema toy basikoy metoxoy poy anakoinwsate thn anastolh toy nomoy gia ena ejamhno peripoy. Parallhla, eipate oti kaleite thn E.E. na ftiajete enan kainoyrgio nomo se syntomo xroniko diasthma. To erwthma moy einai sto mesodiasthma ayto ti qa isxyei; Qa isxyei o prohgoymenos nomos poy kai aytos exei problhmata h den qa isxyei tipota;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai tesseris mhnes kai 16 hmeres, oxi eji mhnes. Isxyei o prohgoymenos nomos, opws allwste isxyei kai twra. Den exei katarghqei o prohgoymenos nomos, giati h efarmogh toy neoy nomoy 3310 qa arxize apo tis 14 Ioynioy.

KYRITSHS: Politika gia thn kybernhsh ta leyka chfodeltia einai egkyra h akyra;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ti shmainei ``politika gia thn kybernhsh''; Einai qema poy teqhke se Anwtato Dikasthrio to opoio apofasise. Apo ekei kai pera den einai qema politikhs, einai qema nomikhs ermhneias, thn opoia exei dwsei to Anwtato Dikasthrio.

SIDERHS: Pws qa ginoyn oi epomenes ekloges; Qa yparxoyn nomoi poy ta dikasthria qa apofasisoyn na prosmetroyn ta leyka kai alloi poy den qa ta prosmetroyn; Den to exw katalabei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Leme to idio pragma me diaforetiko tropo. Sas exw hdh apanthsei.

PALAIOLOGOS: Se sxesh me to basiko metoxo. Pote qa ferei h kybernhsh tropologia sth Boylh gia thn anastolh kai typika toy nomoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Entos twn hmerwn.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ayth thn ebdomada, thn allh pote;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ayrio, Paraskeyh, qa ginei pros hmerhsias diatajews syzhthsh sth Boylh, ara den mporei na th ferei pros chfish. Ara, pame sthn allh ebdomada.

GKOYTZANHS: Sxetika me thn Olympiakh. Epeidh akoysa poly kala thn kritikh poy kanate sthn prohgoymenh kybernhsh, eseis pote qa to kleisete to qema; Exete kapoia xroniko orizonta;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn anakoinwqei hdh apo to ypoyrgeio Metaforwn oles oi energeies poy ginontai. Opws gnwrizete, brisketai se ejelijh enas diagwnismos. To xroniko orio prosdiorizetai entos twn prosexwn, enos h dyo mhnwn.

KOTTARIDHS: Exete kapoio sxolio sxetika me th nea dhmoskophsh ths VPRC gia logariasmo toy SKY shmera;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sas exw pei oti oi dhmoskophseis einai xrhsima ergaleia doyleias. Sas exw pei oti oi dhmoskophseis apotypwnoyn ayto poy pisteyei o poliths th sygkekrimenh xronikh stigmh. Sas exw pei oti oi Ellhnes polites exoyn katanohsei oti ayth h kybernhsh parelabe mia seira pollwn kai megalwn problhmatwn kai prospaqei me ton kalytero dynato tropo na brei th lysh. Eimaste sigoyroi oti oi Ellhnes polites pisteyoyn se ayth thn politikh kai to apodeiknyoyn gia mia akomh fora.

Sas eyxaristw.


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