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Greek Government Press Briefing, 06-11-13

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA EPIKOINWNIAS

GENIKH GRAMMATEIA ENHMERWSHS

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 13 Noembrioy 2006

Ariqmos Deltioy: 40372949

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ANAPLHRWTHS KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 13 Noembrioy 2006

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON ANAPLHRWTH KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

Ayrio Trith, 14 Noembrioy, stis 18.30, qa synedriasei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, me antikeimeno ton Proypologismo gia to 2007 poy qa katateqei ayrio sth Boylh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas:

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exw na sas kanw kapoies erwthseis poy aforoyn th shmerinh parembash ths ``ELEYQEROTYPIAS'', sto kentriko ths arqro. Kanei thn protash h Boylh na lysei to qema twn symbasioyxwn me nomosxedio to opoio qa bazei telos sthn ``omhria'' toys kai me th synainesh, an einai dynaton, kai ths antipoliteyshs, dioti prokeitai gia ena meizon koinwniko qema kai qa hqela ena prwto sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw oti einai h shmerinh kybernhsh ekeinh h opoia elyse to qema ths ``omhrias'' sthn opoia eixan perielqei oi symbasioyxoi apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis. Kai elyse to qema me enan entimo kai jekaqaro tropo. Me tropo, o opoios opws sas anelyse allwste kai proxqes, Paraskeyh, o k. Roysopoylos apo ayth edw th qesh, edwse lysh sto problhma pollwn Ellhnwn politwn, oi opoioi apasxoloyntan sto Dhmosio kai toys opoioys h prohgoymenh kybernhsh kratoyse ``omhroys''.

KORAH: Qa moy epitrecete omws na sas ypenqymisw oti h proeklogikh desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy miloyse gia 250.000 symbasioyxoys, twn opoiwn to problhma qa lynotan ean h Nea Dhmokratia ginotan kybernhsh kai h ryqmish Paylopoyloy den jeperase tis 30.000.

ANTWNAROS: Kat' arxas, qa hqela na sas pw, gia mia akomh fora, oti oi proeklogikes desmeyseis ths kybernhshs eginan prajh sto sygkekrimeno qema mesa sto plaisio sygkekrimenwn ryqmisewn oi opoies einai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh, dikaies. Kai lambanoyn ypoch toys kai ta symferonta bebaiws twn ergazomenwn kai tis anagkes toy Dhmosioy. Gia to sygkekrimeno qema sto opoio ginetai syzhthsh aytes tis hmeres, qa hqela na pw oti einai ena polyploko nomiko qema gia to opoio ginontai, isws me kapoia synaisqhmatikh fortish, yperaploysteymenes proseggiseis. As skycoyme, loipon, as skycete kai eseis oi dhmosiografoi - einai kai mia prosklhsh thn opoia apeyqynw - na deite oles tis ptyxes kai tis leptomereies toy qematos.

BLAXOS: Epeidh miloysate gia yperaploysteymenes paroysiaseis, eseis to misqo sas ton pairnete kanonika. Den exete na plhrwqeite eji kai ennea mhnes;

ANTWNAROS: Epanalambanw oti to qema exei diafores ptyxes. Exei thn ptyxh, kat' arxas, twn dedoyleymenwn. Kai ginontai prospaqeies sthn kateyqynsh wste na breqei lysh kai na katablhqoyn apo toys ergodotes ta dedoyleymena stoys dikaioyxoys. Ayto einai ena qema. Ena allo qema, einai wstoso, to plaisio entos toy opoioy ginontai oi proslhceis twn monimwn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn apo thn ellhnikh Politeia. Sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh, omws, miloyme gia ergazomenoys oi opoioi xwris th diadikasia toy ASEP proselhfqhsan me symbash ergoy kai prospaqoyn twra, me diaforoys tropoys, na metatrecoyn ayth th symbash se monimothta. Ayth h metatroph den einai efikth.

BLAXOS: Yperaploysteysh sthn paroysiash, poia einai k. Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Sas edwsa oles tis parametroys.

BLAXOS: Eipate yperaploysteymenh paroysiash. Poia einai h yperaploysteymenh paroysiash;

ANTWNAROS: Den htan momfh enantion sas. Pros Qeoy! Eseis eiste empeiros dhmosiografos.

KORAH: Den einai qema dialogikhs syzhthshs to gegonos oti milame gia ypoqeseis oi opoies exoyn kriqei telesidika kai ametaklhta kai gi' aytes tis ypoqeseis parembainei h ``ELEYQEROTYPIA'' kai zhta mia politikh lysh. Den einai qema sebasmoy ths leitoyrgias twn qesmwn;

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh exei apolyto sebasmo - kai ayto to exei apodeijei emprakta polles fores - sth leitoyrgia kai thn anejarthsia ths Dikaiosynhs. Qa hqela omws na sas ypenqymisw, opws eipa kai thn perasmenh ebdomada, oti to Elegktiko Synedrio apofasise kai malista en olomeleia gia to sygkekrimeno qema. As mhn to jexname ayto.

KORAH: Den eixe thn ejoysia.

ANTWNAROS: Den qelw na mpw se nomikh antidikia me kanenan apo toys paristamenoys.

SARANTAKOS: Eipate prin apo ligo oti ginontai prospaqeies gia na lyqei to qema me ta dedoyleymena. H kybernhsh exei kati na pei se aytoys toys symbasioyxoys poy exoyn meinei aplhrwtoi eji mhnes, pote kai ean qa paroyn ta xrhmata toys; Dhladh, me poio tropo, ti kinhseis skepteste na kanete kai ti xronodiagramma exete qesei.

ANTWNAROS: An eixa kati perissotero na sas pw ayth th stigmh, qa sas to elega.

SARANTAKOS: Den yparxei dhladh kamia apanthsh, praktika panta anaferomai.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Qa moy epitrecete na epimeinw sthn erwthsh toy synadelfoy...

ANTWNAROS: Panta sas to epitrepw.

PALAIOLOGOS: Eyxaristw para poly. Eipate oti ginetai prospaqeia na breqei lysh. Ekeino poy den exw katalabei einai h lysh qa einai ejatomikeymenh h qa afora to synolo olwn twn symbasioyxwn;

ANTWNAROS: Milhsa gia thn prospaqeia poy ginetai wste na breqei lysh gia thn katabolh twn dedoyleymenwn apo toys ergodotes stoys dikaioyxoys.

PALAIOLOGOS: Na kanw pio apla thn erwthsh: Ekeinos o opoios qelei na plhrwqei, mporei na paei shmera h ayrio kai na parei ta dedoyleymena apo ton ergodoth toy;

ANTWNAROS: Afoy sas lew oti kataballetai prospaqeia na breqei lysh. Pws na paei shmera h ayrio, efoson den exei breqei akomh lysh;

PALAIOLOGOS: Den yparxei nomikh formoyla gi' ayto to pragma; Ayto einai poy den mporw na katalabw.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa eisagwgika oti einai ena polyploko nomiko qema. Kanontas ayth thn eisagwgikh parathrhsh, proseqesa oti kataballetai prospaqeia pros thn kateyqynsh ths ejeyreshs mias lyshs wste na katablhqoyn stoys dikaioyxoys apo toys ergodotes toys ta dedoyleymena.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite, pws h kybernhsh sebetai th Dikaiosynh, apo th stigmh poy polloi apo toys symbasioyxoys poy petagontai sto dromo, diaqetoyn telesidikes dikastikes apofaseis oti kalyptoyn pagies kai diarkeis anagkes;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei. H kybernhsh einai ekeinh poy exei dwsei synolikh lysh sto qema twn symbasioyxwn. Lysh h opoia xronize gia para poly kairo.

BLAXOS: H lysh poy anazhtei h kybernhsh einai na doqoyn ta dedoyleymena kai amesws meta oi symbasioyxoi na apolyqoyn afoy den monimopoioyntai, opws eipate;

ANTWNAROS: Milhsa gia thn prospaqeia ejeyreshs lyshs sto qema ths katabolhs twn dedoyleymenwn. Gia to qema ths metatrophs twn symbasewn ergoy, tis opoies exoyn oi sygkekrimenoi se monimothta, ekana allh topoqethsh, h opoia einai poly safhs.

BLAXOS: Apolyontai.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn eyqynes gi' aytoys poy toys proselaban xwris na exoyn ejasfalisei ta kondylia;

ANTWNAROS: Den einai se mena na tis anazhthsw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Se poion einai; Sthn kybernhsh. Kybernhtika stelexh. Poioi htan aytoi poy toys proselaban xwris na exoyn ejasfalisei ...

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa oti den einai se mena, o opoios ekproswpw thn kybernhsh, na tis anazhthsw.

SPYRAKH: Hqela na rwthsw me bash kai thn topoqethsh toy k. Roysopoyloy thn perasmenh Paraskeyh, ean h kybernhsh prosanatolizetai se syntagmatikh ryqmish poy qa afora synolika to na mhn dynantai ta dikasthria na prosdiorizoyn to ycos ayjhsewn, epidomatwn kai anadromikwn amoibwn gia to synolo twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai mia topoqethsh thn opoia ekane bebaiws o k. Roysopoylos thn Paraskeyh. Jerw oti se aythn anaferqhke epishs thn Paraskeyh -an qymamai kala- o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs o k. Papalhgoyras. Einai mia ekpefrasmenh, katagegrammenh -qa elega- qesh ths kybernhshs, afoy periexetai stis protaseis poy exei kanei h kybernhsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos.

SPYRAKH: To endexomeno na yparjei qema na proskroyei to zhthma ayto sth syntagmatikothta h kai stis dieqneis desmeyseis poy exei analabei h kybernhsh to exete antimetwpisei;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai thn erwthsh sas, dedomenoy oti milame gia mia anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Pws mporei mia anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos na proskroyei se antisyntagmatikothta. Qa protimoysa wstoso na mhn embaqynw se syntagmatika qemata, afoy den eimai eidikos. Egw sas milhsa politika gia th qesmikh proqesh thn opoia exei h kybernhsh, h kybernhtikh pleiochfia na kanei th sygkekrimenh parembash.

IWANNOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sto idio qema, politika qa hqela to sxolio sas. Oi dikastes me sygkekrimenes dhlwseis poy ekanan kai xqes -o Proedros ths Enwshs Dikastikwn Leitoyrgwn toy StE- oysiastika leei oti h kybernhsh epixeirei na periorisei to dikaiwma h th dikaiodosia ths Dikaiosynhs na prostateyei toys ergazomenoys otan yparxoyn misqologikes anisothtes. Se ayto politika ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apantw me osa eipe o Ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs o k. Papalhgoyras, ejerxomenos shmera apo to Megaro Majimoy, meta apo th synanthsh toy me ton Prwqypoyrgoy. Eipe o k. Papalhgoyras oti ``exw thn pisth oti oloi oi emplekomenoi qa syneidhtopoihsoyn thn anagkh na mhn proballontai yperbolikes oikonomikes ajiwseis se mia periodo idiaitera dyskolh'' sth sygkekrimenh oikonomikh sygkyria, opws eixa pei egw thn perasmenh ebdomada.

KORAH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den yparxei mia antifash sthn olh antidrash ths kybernhshs; Dhladh, na diafwnei me thn apofash toy Misqodikeioy, dioti den thn symferei kai se o,ti afora toys symbasioyxoys na oxyrwnetai pisw apo tis apofaseis toy Elegktikoy Synedrioy; Edw yparxoyn dyo metra kai dyo staqma sto pws krinete tis dikastikes apofaseis;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ypenqymizw ayto poy sas eipa thn Pempth. H kybernhsh den krinei thn apofash toy Misqodikeioy.

KORAH: Den krinei, alla leei oti ``skeftomai na tis allajw''.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh topoqeteitai politika kai qesmika. H kybernhsh milhse gia anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. Den krinw egw thn apofash toy Misqodikeioy.

KORAH: Dhladh, qa ta paroyn oi dikastes ta lefta, ayta ta mexri kai 60% ayjhsh; Dioti to Misqodikeio apofasise oti mporoyn na paroyn misqoys anw twn 10.000 eyrw. Qa ta paroyn ayta oi dikastes;

ANTWNAROS: Qa epanalabw thn apanthsh poy sas edwsa thn perasmenh bdomada: H kybernhsh qa topoqethqei afoy ginei endelexhs meleth olwn twn ptyxwn toy qematos.

MAYRIDHS: Ayth h topoqethsh poy kanei h kybernhsh peri qesmikhs parembashs, poy parapempei dhladh sthn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, h opoia opote ki an ginei meta apo poly kairo, qa afhsei ena tetoio problhma se ekkremothta mexri tote; Den qa prepei ayto to problhma na antimetwpistei me kapoio tropo; Mexri tote ti qa ginei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti meletwntai oles oi ptyxes toy sygkekrimenoy qematos. Den exw na pw, ayth th stigmh, kati allo.

BLAXOS: To Misqodikeio leitoyrghse symfwna me tis epitages toy Syntagmatos. Eseis, loipon, twra erxeste kai den anagnwrizete mia apofash toy Misqodikeioy, ara kata proektash den anagnwrizete kai th syntagmatikothta ths apofashs;

ANTWNAROS: Moy apodidete pragmata ta opoia egw, bebaiws, den eipa.

BLAXOS: H kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Oyte h kybernhsh.

BLAXOS: Efoson anagnwrizete th leitoyrgia toy Syntagmatos, ara kai toy Misqodikeioy, qa prepei apo ayrio na kataballete ta posa ta opoia apofasisthkan.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti toso h ypoqesh ayth, oso kai h sxetikh apofash, exoyn polles ptyxes, tis opoies h kybernhsh meleta akomh endelexws. Otan exw kati kainoyrgio, qa sas enhmerwsw.

SIDERHS: Ej onyxos tw leonta. Kaloi oi kwdikes timhs Samoyrai toy k. Polydwra, alla proxqes synebh kati ejorgistiko: Ena zeygos Kanadwn phre ena taji apo thn Akropolh gia na paei sto Syntagma. Toys phre 50 eyrw. Oi anqrwpoi katalaban oti htan akriba kai phgan sto oikeio astynomiko tmhma. Aytoi toys parepemcan sthn troxaia. H troxaia toys parepemce sto Ypoyrgeio Toyrismoy kai aytoi toys parepemcan sto SATA. Sto telos toys eipan ``steilte ena faj na to kataggeilete''. Gia olo ayto to xaos, poios ftaiei; Eftasan dyomish xronia gia na kanete toso mpaxalo;

ANTWNAROS: Oi genikeyseis, stis opoies exete idiaiterh klish, den me briskoyn symfwno. Epeidh anafereste se mia poly ejeidikeymenh periptwsh toy astynomikoy deltioy, parakalw na apeyqynqeite stis arxes poy exoyn thn armodiothta.

SIDERHS: Aptetai kai ths dieqnoys eikonas ths xwras, giati ama aytoi pane ejw se ena kanali kai poyn ola ayta poy trabhjan, katalabainete oti amayrwnetai h eikona ths xwras.

ANTWNAROS: Parabatikh symperifora memonwmenwn atomwn yparxei se oles tis xwres.

MANH: Eipate prohgoymenws oti h kybernhsh entima kai jekaqara edwse lyseis sto qema twn symbasioyxwn. Epeidh mexri kai dyo hmeres prin tis ekloges -kai exoyme oloi tis synenteyjeis- o shmerinos Prwqypoyrgos, alla kai polla stelexh tote ths Neas Dhmokratias miloysan gia lhjh ths omhrias kai den dieykrinizan pws, den elegan dhladh oti kapoioi qa monimopoihqeite kai kapoioi qa pate spitia sas, trofodothsan elpides oti oloi qa monimopoihqoyn. Dedomenoy, loipon, aytoy h kybernhsh ejetazei to endexomeno politikhs lyshs gi` aytoys toys symbasioyxoys poy qewroyn oti ejapathqhkan;

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh xrhsimopoihsate mia poly baria ekfrash, epanalambanw oti h kybernhsh, me plhrh entimothta, eyqythta, eilikrineia kai synepeia, efarmozei atalanteyta tis proeklogikes ths desmeyseis.

MANH: Se sxesh me tis allages sthn iatrofarmakeytikh periqalch toy IKA, ginetai syzhthsh gia plafon stis iatrikes ejetaseis kai gia symmetoxh twn asfalismenwn sto kostos aytwn twn iatrikwn ejetasewn...

ANTWNAROS: Apo poion ginetai syzhthsh;

MANH: ... symfwna me tis plhrofories, me to reportaz. Yparxei reportaz. Mexri stigmhs, den exei diaceystei apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio.

ANTWNAROS: Apeyqynqeite, loipon, sto armodio Ypoyrgeio, epeidh einai ejeidikeymeno qema sto opoio den exw tis eidikes gnwseis gia na topoqethqw.

MANH: H erwthsh moy einai, ean isxyei.

ANTWNAROS: Den mporw na gnwrizw ta ejeidikeymena qemata. Sas parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio toy opoioy proistatai o k. Abramopoylos kai eimai bebaios oti qa dwsei apanthsh sthn erwthsh poy exete.

SARANTAKOS: Oi ekloges ton Oktwbrio toy 2007 einai kata th gnwmh sas prowres;

ANTWNAROS: O k. Roysopoylos, molis thn perasmenh Paraskeyh, topoqethqhke me safhneia sto qema twn eklogwn. Qa elega oti einai koyrastikh h synexhs epanalhch toy idioy qematos. Exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos. To qema einai jekaqaro.

SARANTAKOS: Me sygxwreite poy sas rwtw...

ANTWNAROS: H hmeromhnia eklogwn einai to 2008.

SARANTAKOS: Rwthsa, pantws, epeidh metajy ths Paraskeyhs kai ths Deyteras mesolabhse h parembash toy prwhn Prwqypoyrgoy k. Mhtsotakh, o opoios thn Tetarth eide ton Prwqypoyrgo kai me dhlwsh toy sto EQNOS eipe oti oi ekloges ton Oktwbrio toy 2007 den einai prowres. Gi` ayto sas rwtw.

ANTWNAROS: Sas eipa oti o k. Roysopoylos ekane dhlwsh thn Paraskeyh, thn opoia kai epanalambanw, xwris na afairesw h na prosqesw kati.

PALAIOLOGOS: Dhladh, katanta koyrastiko, ean moy epitrepete...

ANTWNAROS: Ma, sas to exoyme pei toses fores.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh kai o k. Alogoskoyfhs  egw den milw gia ton k. Mhtsotakh- xqes epanelabe -kai malista sthn kratikh thleorash- oti pragmati eixe topoqethqei kai exei pei oti den einai prowres oi ekloges ton Oktwbrio. Einai koyrastikos o k. Alogoskoyfhs;

ANTWNAROS: Mexri thn hmeromhnia twn eklogwn yparxoyn alloi 16 mhnes.

BLAXOS: Exete jexasei to qema twn ypoklopwn. Den anaferete kaqoloy to qema twn ypoklopwn. Exei ginei kati; Epishs, giati den elegxetai apo thn ADAE h ERICSSON;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parakalw na apeyqynqeite sthn anejarthth arxh poy einai h ADAE.

BLAXOS: Esas den sas endiaferei gia ena terastio qema;

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Sto qema twn ypoklopwn, den exw na prosqesw kati kainoyrgio. Otan exw kati poy einai apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs, qa topoqethqw.

BLAXOS: Den endiaferei thn kybernhsh poy ayth th stigmh mia megalh etaireia, h opoia eneplakh sthn istoria ayth, opws h ERICSSON, emfanizetai na mhn elegxetai apo thn ADAE;

ANTWNAROS: Exw thn ypocia oti sas eleican shmera oi erwthseis kai me rwtate jana shmera kati to opoio me rwthsate prin 10 hmeres.

BLAXOS: Den sas rwthsa ayto prin 10 hmeres.

ANTWNAROS: Sthn aiqoysa briefing pantws moy egine ayth h erwthsh, edwsa thn idia apanthsh kai menw sthn idia apanthsh. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

BLAXOS: Gia to qema twn ypoklopwn den yparxei kapoia allh ejelijh.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi.

KAKALHS: Ayth thn kathgorhmatikothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti oi ekloges qa ginoyn to 2008 den thn katalabainei o k. Alogoskoyfhs poy leei oti den einai prowres oi ekloges ean ginoyn eji mhnes nwritera; Giati kybernhtika stelexh ypodaylizoyn thn eklogologia; Ayto to synnefo ths eklogologias to xreiazeste;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh den ypodaylizei kamia eklogologia. Topoqethqhka me sygkekrimeno tropo, pera apo kaqe allh amfisbhthsh, sto qema twn eklogwn. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

KAKALHS: O k. Alogoskoyfhs, omws, den sas katalabainei. Giati;

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: (den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Den exw akomh kati.

KAKALHS: H aystriakh Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn taxqhke yper mias proswrinhs anastolhs twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn me thn Toyrkia se periptwsh poy den symmorfwqei me to Prwtokollo, kai den anagnwrisei de facto thn kypriakh Dhmokratia. H kybernhsh pote perimenei na anakoinwsei th dikh ths qesh;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei polles fores gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Perimenei apo thn Toyrkia na antapokriqei plhrws se oles tis ypoxrewseis poy exei mesa sta sygkekrimena plaisia, opws exei ypoxrewsh na kanei ws ypochfia xwra gia na ginei plhres melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

KAKALHS: (den akoygetai) topoqethqei sto zhthma, ti qa ginei sthn periptwsh poy h Toyrkia poy, opws ola deixnoyn, den qa symmorfwqei.

ANTWNAROS: Den qa sas apanthsw se ypoqetika erwthmata poy periexoyn ``ti qa ginei'', ``ean'' k.t.l.

KAKALHS: Oi jenoi, omws, hdh pairnoyn qesh kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh oxi.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh politeyetai me ton tropo poy ekeinh prokrinei.

MANH: Poioi einai oi ergodotes twn aplhrwtwn symbasioyxwn;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto einai se esas, na cajete na to breite.

MANH: Den toys jerete;

MAYRIDHS: H siwph mias kybernhshs einai mia diapragmateytikh taktikh;

ANTWNAROS: Opws sas einai gnwsto, ayth th stigmh ginontai stoys kolpoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai apo thn Epitroph kai apo thn Proedria kai apo ta krath-melh diafores synennohseis. Aytes oi synennohseis briskontai se ejelijh. Den einai oyte xrhsimo, oyte skopimo, ayth th stigmh, na topoqethqei h kybernhsh sxetika me kati poy brisketai se ejelijh.

SIDERHS: Den jerw ean exoyn sxesh ta proswpika synaisqhmata sto briefing, alla prospaqhsa na rwthsw prohgoymenws giati moy akoygetai san apeilh to endexomeno na meinete akomh 16 mhnes epanw;

ANTWNAROS: Ti ennoeite;

SIDERHS: Sthn ejoysia.

ANTWNAROS: Aisqaneste na sas apeilw;

SIDERHS: H kybernhsh sas mas apeilei.

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, eklegetai syntagmatika gia tessera xronia. H qhteia ths einai tetraeths.

SPYRAKH: Sxediazete na politeyqeite;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw labei kamia tetoia apofash. Kanw mia sygkekrimenh doyleia sthn opoia nomizw, krinontas apo thn paroysia sas, prepei na antapokrinomai kala.

Sas eyxaristw.


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