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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-01-29

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 29 Ianoyarioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 118424566

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 29 Ianoyarioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete.

Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs opoy asxolhqhke me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias. O armodios ypoyrgos k. Boylgarakhs, ejerxomenos, exei kanei hdh dhlwseis. Kyriarxo qema htan h ypoqesh twn limaniwn Peiraiws kai Qessalonikhs: Symbaseis paraxwrhshs tmhmatwn poy qa odhghsoyn ta limania ayta se mia poly megalyterh ajia ap` ayth poy exoyn shmera, kaqoson h anodos ths kinhshs emporeymatokibwtiwn anamenetai na einai poly megalh kai na katasthsei toso ton Peiraia, oso kai th Qessalonikh shmantikoys komboys diametakomistikoy emporioy apo thn Anatolh sth Dysh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa exete plhroforhqei, nomizw, tis teleytaies dhlwseis poy eginan xqes apo to synergath toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy, sthn ekpomph toy k. Eyaggelatoy, sxetika me ton k. Koykodhmo, opoy, se erwthsh, pws kleisthkan ta ranteboy toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy me ton k. Klada, eipe oti kleisthkan mesw toy k. Koykodhmoy. Exete ypoch sas aytes tis anafores;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Test gnwsewn moy kanete;

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, oxi. Lew...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qelete na moy kanete thn erwthsh sas;

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai. Telika, fainetai pws o k. Koykodhmos mesolabhse metajy toy dhmosiografoy kai toy epikefalhs ths Yphresias Eidikwn Elegxwn.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa to pw twra, paroti qa dexqw polles erwthseis: Exw apanthsei sto qema Koykodhmoy kai den exw ayth th stigmh tipote kainoyrgio na prosqesw. Ean yparjei kapoio kainoyrgio stoixeio, to opoio qa parapempei sthn teleytaia frash ths dhlwshs toy k. Tragakh, h opoia einai safhs, qa ta janapoyme.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi se sxesh me aytes tis dhlwseis, omws, poy eginan xqes apo to synergath toy k. Triantafyllopoyloy, den yparxei ena qema hqiko, ek meroys...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Tipote perissotero.

SARANTAKOS: H kybernhsh den qewrei kainoyrgio stoixeio sthn ypoqesh ayth, to gegonos oti enas anqrwpos einai martyras toy dialogoy poy eixan alloi dyo anqrwpoi gia ena sygkekrimeno qema;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H dhlwsh toy k. Tragakh einai safhs. Kai nomizw, apantaei sta erwthmata sas.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, tesseris dhmosiografoi exoyn kataqesei oti exoyn akoysei ton k. Koykodhmo. Ean h kybernhsh den peiqetai...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Na leei ti;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: (Den akoygetai)..na thlefwnei kai na zhtaei en pash periptwsei diamesolabhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete krathsei ta onomata twn dhmosiografwn poy to exoyn pei ayto;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Xatzhnikolaoy, o k. Koyik, o k. Gkiolas kai o k. Makhs Triantafyllopoylos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kai eipan oi tesseris aytoi dhmosiografoi oti thlefwnhse kai zhthse diamesolabhsh; Giati egw den ta exw diabasei ston Typo, oti eipan kapoioi, apo aytoys toys dhmosiografoys, toylaxiston.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: O k. Xatzhnikolaoy, to eipe sygkekrimena. Eipe oti ``nai, akoysa''. O k. Koyik eipe oti ``hmoyn parwn sto thlefwnhma''.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Mporeite na ypoballete thn erwthsh sas; Na thn oloklhrwsete, an den thn oloklhrwsate;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Meta apo tis martyries twn tessarwn dhmosiografwn h kybernhsh den aisqanetai thn anagkh na egkalesei ton k. Koykodhmo, h en pash periptwsei na epanejetasei th stash ths apenanti ston k. Koykodhmo;

ROYSOPOYLOS: O,ti eixa na pw, to eipa.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sygnwmh. Den exw katalabei: H kybernhsh arneitai thn emplokh toy k. Koykodhmoy kai toy k. Klada sthn ypoqesh h leei oti den yparxei kati epimempto se ayth toys th symperifora;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh o,ti eixe na pei, to eipe. Ayto.

GALIATSATOS: Qa epimeinw sto idio qema. Ajiologei h kybernhsh sto pneyma ths dhlwshs toy k. Tragakh kai malista sto shmeio ekeino ths frashs toy k. Tragakh poy leei oti efoson prokycoyn nea stoixeia, th xqesinh dhlwsh toy k. Gkiolia, o opoios profanws thn exei kataqesei kai ston anakrith, legontas oti o k. Koykodhmos zhthse dyo ranteboy toy k. Klada me ton k. Triantafyllopoylo. Ayto to ajiologeite ws neo stoixeio h oxi;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Apanthsa nwritera. Einai piqanon na mhn kalyptei h apanthsh moy. Ekeino poy qelw na qymisw einai oti o k. Kladas exei prosfygei sth Dikaiosynh, kataqetontas mhnythria anafora gia thn ypoqesh. H ypoqesh ereynatai apo th Dikaiosynh. Opws eipa kai xqes se antistoixh erwthsh, as perimenoyme na teleiwsei h Dikaiosynh.

KAKALHS: Symfwna me tis martyries, yparxei kai sxetiko hxhtiko ntokoymento kai empleketai kai enas deyteros boyleyths, sthn olh istoria, ths Neas Dhmokratias. H kybernhsh den aisqanetai oti einai omhros kapoiwn katastasewn kai prepei na dwsei lyseis se ayto to problhma poy exei dhmioyrghqei;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi. Eyqews apantw sto erwthma sas. Ekeino to opoio exw pei apo thn prwth stigmh einai oti egw anemena oloklhrh thn kataggelia. Kataggelia oloklhrh den egine apo to proswpo to opoio jekinhse na thn kanei, egine apo sponta, apo trito dhmosiografo. Se kaqe periptwsh, me to poy egine kai akoysthke to onoma toy boyleyth, o Genikos Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas antedrase opws ofeile na antidrasei. Den exw na pw tipote perissotero.

KAKALHS: Dhmioyrgeitai mia noshrh katastash, ean moy epitrepete, opoy emplekontai diaforoi mesa se ayth thn istoria kai boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias kai h kybernhsh exei eyqynh gi` ayto, na jekaqarisei...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Akoyste, o kaqenas mporei na emplekei ton opoiodhpote nomizei ekeinos. Emena me endiaferei na dw ta stoixeia ta opoia emplekoyn toys boyleytes aytoys.

RABANOS: Na pame se ena allo pio meizon, kata thn apoch moy, qema, poy diaperna olo to fasma toy politikoy systhmatos kai eidika twn dyo megalwn kommatwn, thn ypoqesh ths Siemens kai tis kataggelies, fhmes, opws qelete peite tis, gia mizes se politika kommata thn periodo 2001-2005. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs, ep` aytoy.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ta oikonomika twn kommatwn, edw kai arketa xronia, diepontai apo sygkekrimenoys nomoys kai einai diafanh. En pash periptwsei, ofeiloyn na einai diafanh. Ths Neas Dhmokratias einai. Mporeite na entryfhsete sta stoixeia -ta opoia katatiqentai sth Boylh entos dimhnoy meta thn eklogikh anametrhsh- kai na diabasete ola ayta ta opoia sas endiaferoyn gia ta oikonomika ths Neas Dhmokratias, eimai bebaios kai gia ta oikonomika twn allwn kommatwn.

KAKALHS: Entajei, me ta oikonomika ths Neas Dhmokratias san komma, alla stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias, ajiwmatoyxoi poy piqanws exoyn emplakei se ayto to skandalo; Mporeite na milhsete gi` aytoys;

ROYSOPOYLOS: ``Piqanws''; Ma sta sobara, me rwtate me to ``piqanws'';

KAKALHS: Eseis ofeilete na jerete ti exei ginei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia ereyna h opoia ginetai kai ginetai nomizw oxi mono sthn Ellada. Ean yparjei opoiodhpote stoixeio, na parw qesh. Egw sas eipa poia einai h genikh arxh kai ti afora th Nea Dhmokratia ws kybernwn komma.

GKOYTZANHS: Ws kybernwn komma, ejetazei, kanei tis dikes ths ereynes gia emplokh, endexomenws, kapoiwn stelexwn ths; Ayto rwtoyme.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qewrw oti hdh exw apanthsei, prohgoymenws. Qa epanalabw oti h Nea Dhmokratia, opws ofeilei allwste apo to nomo  kanw mia parenqesh gia na sas pw oti h Nea Dhmokratia epi Miltiadh Ebert htan to prwto komma to opoio zhthse apo mono toy na exei orkwtoys elegktes gia na elegjoyn ta oikonomika toy kai ta dhmosiopoiei apo tote- kataqetei entos dimhnoy sth Boylh, ola ekeina ta stoixeia poy aforoyn th xrhmatodothsh ths. To idio pisteyw oti kanoyn kai ta ypoloipa kommata. Den arkei para na kanei kapoios mia episkech sthn armodia epitroph, na plhroforhqei ta stoixeia.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Koykodhmos, ap` oti gnwrizoyme, exei epikoinwnhsei me ton k. Tragakh. Mexri shmera, eseis milhsate mazi toy h o Prwqypoyrgos zhthse na epikoinwnhsei, prokeimenoy na labei kai o idios gnwsh gia ta osa ginontai;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei epikoinwnhsei o Grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, egw qa epanaferw to erwthma toy k. Kakalh, alla me mia prosqeth epishmansh: Den aisqanetai h kybernhsh omhrh, telos pantwn, twn diaforwn fhmologiwn opws h xqesinh oti yparxei kai deyteros boyleyths poy empleketai sthn istoria kai oti qelhse na mesolabhsei, na rwthsei, den jerw kai egw ti, metajy toy dhmosiografoy k. Triantafyllopoyloy kai toy k. Klada;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Sthn poreia twn eptamish etwn peripoy poy diakonw sth qesh toy Ekproswpoy Typoy ths antipoliteyshs kai toy Kybernhtikoy Ekproswpoy, exw akoysei mia seira apo fhmes, plhrofories, akribeis plhrofories k.o.k. Perimenw thn akribeia twn plhroforiwn na th diapistwsei h Dikaiosynh, afoy h ypoqesh brisketai sth Dikaiosynh. Ara, loipon, de blepw to logo giati se kaqe plhroforia, se kaqe fhmh  kai to plhroforia entos h ektos eisagwgikwn, analoga me thn periptwsh- na topoqetoymai. Eipa kati to opoio isxyei apo thn arxh. De xreiazetai na pw tipote perissotero.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Se synexeia ths erwthshs toy k. Galiatsatoy, qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Oti meta apo ayta poy eipe o k. Gkiolias gia ton k. Klada, h kybernhsh zhthse kapoies dieykriniseis ap` ton k. Klada; Ean tis zhthse, pote kai apo poion zhthqhkan;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exoyn syzhthqei apo thn prwth hmera ola ayta, edw kai poly kairo.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Meta ta xqesina, kyrie Ypoyrge; Meta ta xqesina sas rwthsa.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den einai safhs h apanthsh moy; ``Exoyn syzhthqei apo thn prwth hmera ayta kyria Kalogeropoyloy'', eipa prohgoymenws. Bgazete symperasmata se alles pio asafeis apanthseis, ayth poy einai kai toso safhs;

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Den proekyce, dhladh, kati kainoyrgio, apo ayta poy eipe o k. Gkiolias xqes, gia thn kybernhsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exw apanthsei.

GKOYTZANHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, parapempete synexeia sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada kai ston k. Tragakh, alla ayto afora ton k. Koykodhmo. H emplokh toy k. Klada den einai qema oyte ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, oyte toy kommatos. Einai qema ths kybernhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, den parepemca gia ton k. Klada sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada. Kanete laqos.

GKOYTZANHS: Nai, alla den apantate an exei enhmerwqei h kybernhsh kai an kati leei gia thn ypoqesh toy k. Klada.

ROYSOPOYLOS: To apanthsa. Prwton, eipa oti ayto syzhthqhke thn prwth stigmh, prin apo dyo ebdomades -ara apanthsa- kai deyteron, eipa oti o k. Kladas exei hdh prosfygei sth Dikaiosynh o idios.

Sas eyxaristw.


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