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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-03-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 11 Martioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 125621692

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YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 11 Martioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh Sarakosth.

" Ayrio stis 10.00, qa synedriasei to Kybernhtiko Symboylio Ejwterikwn kai Amynas (KYSEA), me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Emporikhs Naytilias. Stis 11.00, synedriazei h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Dikaiosynhs.

" Mia anafora se egkyklio toy Ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn gia zhthmata ejoikonomhshs energeias, enocei twn problhmatwn ta opoia dhmioyrgoyntai apo th synexizomenh apergia ths GENOP-DEH kai twn sobarwn epiptwsewn poy exoyn sto koinwniko synolo. Kaloyntai oi ypallhloi se oles tis dhmosies yphresies, sta Nomika Proswpa Dhmosioy Dikaioy kai toys OTA A' kai B' baqmoy, na meiwsoyn thn katanalwsh ths energeias sto xroniko ayto diasthma twn apergiwn, prokeimenoy na perioristoyn ta problhmata poy prokyptoyn.

Kleinontas thn eisagwgh moy, qa hqela na sygxarw, ek meroys ths kybernhshs, toys andres kai tis gynaikes ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias, alla kai toys odhgoys, oi opoioi sth diarkeia ths trihmerhs ejodoy, me pneyma synergasias, bohqhsan etsi wste na mhn exoyme ayth th fora, qanathfora dystyxhmata. Gnwrizete oti h xwra mas, dystyxws, exei mia kakh prwtia. To eyxaristo einai oti, synolikotera, ta atyxhmata exoyn meiwqei se arketa ychlo pososto, se sxesh me perysi. Peripoy 25% einai sta qanathfora, 18% sta baria, 8,9% sta elafria, paroti h kinhsh twn troxoforwn, ayto to trihmero, htan megalyterh se sxesh me perysi.

Parakalw tis erwthseis.

KAKALHS: Sygxarhthria sthn Astynomia kai stoys andres ths Troxaias gia tis triwres kaqysterhseis sto petalo toy Maliakoy dwsate;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Einai bebaio oti qa eixate antirrhseis, den me ekplhssei. Ekeino poy exw na sas pw einai oti to foniko petalo toy Maliakoy, opws oloi to qymomaste, epi kybernhsewn ths Neas Dhmokratias sxedon exei allajei morfh. Exei allajei morfh sto megalytero meros toy. Gnwrizete oti einai ena ergo to opoio jekinhse, egine o diagwnismos, dhmoprathqhke, oloklhrwqhke se ena poly megalo meros toy, ta teleytaia xronia. Einai bebaio oti yphrje mia talaipwria twn odhgwn, apo to gegonos oti oi treis lwrides gia peripoy 17 xiliometra eginan mia. Sthn epistrofh yphrje prospaqeia twn andrwn kai twn gynaikwn ths Troxaias na diateqoyn kai oi dyo lwrides kai twn dyo kateyqynsewn, apo tis opoies ginetai h kykloforia, ana takta xronika diasthmata, prokeimenoy h talaipwria na einai mikroterh. Kai ayto egine. Se kaqe periptwsh, opws elege ena palaio slogkan, ``h talaipwria einai proswrinh, to ergo qa einai monimo''.

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, ton diakopth poioi twn katebazoyn telika; H kybernhsh h oi ergazomenoi poy apergoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh den exei kanena logo na to kanei ayto kai aporw pragmatika gia to erwthma sas. Peran toy oti exei apanthqei polles fores ayto to erwthma se ayth thn aiqoysa, einai mia prospaqeia, poy nomizw oti qa pesei sto keno. Dioti oi elleiceis reymatos arxisan na yparxoyn apo thn hmera poy h GENOP-DEH arxise tis apergiakes kinhtopoihseis. Eipame kai pali oti nai men oloi exoyn dikaiwma sthn apergia, opws exoyn dikaiwma sthn ergasia, alla exoyn kai ypoxrewsh apenanti sto koinwniko synolo.

SARANTAKOS: Me aformh ayth thn teleytaia sas dhlwsh, ejetazei h kybernhsh to endexomeno lhchs metrwn kata twn apergwn, prokeimenoy na perioristoyn oi diakopes reymatos kai na mhn plhgei allo to koinwniko synolo, opws lete eseis; Kai milaw gia epistrateysh, an ejetazetai ayth th stigmh to metro ayto apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Egine antistoixh erwthsh thn Paraskeyh. Isxyei h idia apanthsh. Den exw kati kainoyrgio.

SARANTAKOS: Den exei allajei kati dhladh.

KORAH: Qa epanelqw ston diakopth. Moy eipate oti h kybernhsh den exei kanena logo. Nai swsto, apo mia apoch. Dexetai omws kai mia...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Toso eykola sas epeisa;

KORAH: Oxi kai qa akoysete kai th synexeia. Dexetai, loipon, mia kritikh oti mporei na to kanei h na bohqaei, en pash periptwsei, kai na ekmetalleyetai kapoies katastaseis; Dioti, oi diakopes toy reymatos kanoyn mia megalh merida twn politwn na dysanasxetoyn kai aytoi poy dexontai se ayth thn periptwsh ta pyra, toylaxiston stis perissoteres periptwseis, einai oi apergoi. Ti apantate se ayth thn kritikh poy dexeste;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Ma, den apergei h kybernhsh. Apergoyn oi ergazomenoi h kapoioi ergazomenoi sth DEH. H apergia kai oi katalhceis orismenwn ergostasiwn, odhghsan sto na exoyme meiwmenh paragwgh energeias. H meiwmenh paragwgh energeias odhgei synepagwgika sto na mhn exoyme reyma se oles tis perioxes h oles tis wres ths hmeras kai ths nyxtas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h katastash omws, anti na beltiwnetai, xeirotereyei mera me th mera. Eipate oti den yfistatai qema politikhs epistrateyshs. Metra, omws, den prepei na lhfqoyn apo thn kybernhsh gia na ginei kati telos pantwn, giati o kosmos einai aytos poy plhttetai, to koinwniko synolo, opws eipan oi synadelfoi.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws gnwrizete, h Dioikhsh ths DEH einai se diarkeis epafes me toys ergazomenoys ths DEH, me toys apergoys ths GENOP-DEH. H ryqmish h opoia perilambanetai gia th DEH sto asfalistiko nomosxedio, einai gnwsth se oloys. Opoios exei entryfhsei ligo perissotero sta qemata, diapistwnei oti ta pragmata poy qa allajoyn den qa einai gia to kako twn ergazomenwn h twn asfalismenwn h twn syntajioyxwn. To antiqeto, malista. Qa sas elega oti an kanei kapoios mia sygkrish, qa diapistwsei oti: Gia to 2007 gia to IKA-ETAM doqhkan peripoy 900 eyrw ana asfalismeno ws epixorhghsh apo ton kratiko proypologismo (1.800.000.000 eyrw gia 2.000.000 asfalismenoys), otan sthn OAP-DEH doqhkan 11.765 eyrw ana asfalismeno (310.000.000 eyrw gia 26.350 asfalismenoys). Gia to 2008 h problech einai: Sto IKA-ETAM 1.225 eyrw ana asfalismeno (2.450.000.000 eyrw gia 2.000.000 asfalismenoys), enw gia thn OAP-DEH fqanei ta 18.027 eyrw ana asfalismeno (475.000.000 eyrw gia 26.350 asfalismenoys). Dhladh, h kratikh epixorhghsh, o Proypologismos epixorhgei ton kaqe asfalismeno ths DEH pollaplasia ap` oti epixorhgei ton asfalismeno toy IKA-ETAM. Den antilambanomai to logo, loipon, giati o klados twn ergazomenwn ths DEH, osoi en pash periptwsei apergoyn, apergoyn kai malista xrhsimopoioyn to agaqo ayto poy einai gia oloys, prokeimenoy na epityxoyn stenhs ennoias syntexniakes epidiwjeis.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Yparxei periptwsh na parei pisw h na epanejetasei h kybernhsh kommatia toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy h einai ayto sthn telikh toy morfh; Qa chfistei kai qa teleiwsei h istoria edw, anejarthta apo tis antidraseis;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka thn perasmenh ebdomada kai exw apanthsei. Gia na mhn sas koyrasw, anazhtwntas to qa to breite sto Internet. Eipa oti, opws kai se kaqe nomosxedio, akoyme tis apoceis kai mesa sth Boylh. An yparxoyn kapoies epoikodomhtikes apoceis poy tyxon dielaqan ths prosoxhs ths kybernhshs, tis syzhtoyme me poly endiaferon.

ROYMELIWTHS: Ejetazete to endexomeno na sygklhqei apo to Diaxeiristh toy Systhmatos Energeias, opws legetai h arxh ayth, na meiwsei kata 50% to reyma sth baria biomhxania, prokeimenoy na perioristoyn oi ektetamenes diakopes stoys aploys katanalwtes;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nomizw oti xqes yphrje kapoia dhlwsh syndikalistwn ths GENOP-DEH. Ekeino to opoio qelw na shmeiwsw einai oti oloi oi Ellhnes polites plhrwnoyn reyma, gia na exoyn reyma mera-nyxta. To pososto to opoio analogei stoys 25 pelates ths DEH ychlhs tashs, einai to 10% ths zhthshs hlektrikhs isxyos. Ara, loipon, einai ena parelkystiko epixeirhma, to opoio den exei logikh bash. Se kaqe periptwsh, to logiko einai, otan kapoios diaxeirizetai ena koinwniko agaqo, na mhn to strefei enantion ths koinwnias. Dioti exoyme fqasei, ena koinwniko agaqo na strefetai enantion ths koinwnias. Kaqe Ellhnas poliths eite einai prwtoergazomenos, eite einai ergazomenos meta apo 20-30 xronia ths zwhs toy, eite einai syntajioyxos, eite einai oikogeneiarxhs, eite menei monos toy, eite oxi, plhrwnei th DEH. Otan loipon plhrwnei mia epixeirhsh, exei thn apaithsh na exei reyma. Yparxoyn tropoi na diafwnhsei kapoios. Egine poly makra syzhthsh gia to qema toy Asfalistikoy sthn opoia meteixe kai h GENOP-DEH. Den nomizw oti o tropos ton opoio metaxeirizontai oi apergoi ths DEH einai o dokimos gia antistoixa qemata.

KAKALHS: Ektimate oti me ayth thn epideijh adiallajias kai pygmhs apenanti stoys apergoys me thn apeilh epistrateyshs, poy afhnete na aiwreitai me ton koinwniko aytomatismo kai th sanida ths Dikaiosynhs, qa kamcete to agwnistiko fronhma synolika twn ergazomenwn kai tis antidraseis enantia sto Asfalistiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exete qesei tria-tessera erwthmata, sta opoia exw apanthsei jexwrista.

SPYRAKH: Den jerw ean exei ginei erwthsh, alla qa hqela na rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh antimetwpizei o endexomeno ths epitajhs twn ergazomenwn sthn kaqariothta.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei kapoio tetoio qema.

KAKALHS: Eipate oti oloi plhrwnoyn reyma gia na exoyn reyma. H alhqeia einai oti kapoioi plhrwnoyn to reyma pio akriba apo alloys. Kai malista, oi baries biomhxanies to plhrwnoyn poly pio fqhna apo o,ti o mesos katanalwths kai se baros ths DEH. Ayto, fainetai, den enoxlei thn kybernhsh. Oi syndikalistes kataggelloyn, epishs, oti yparxei eparkeia reymatos kai apo th stigmh poy symbainei kati tetoio, sthn kateyqynsh ayth to prwi ekanan kai mia xeironomia kalhs qelhshs kai edwsan parapanw kapoies monades epipleon sto systhma. Mhpws telika einai h kybernhsh ayth poy xrhsimopoiei to koinwniko agaqo se baros twn apergwn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na pisteyw pws h erwthsh sas exei mia paradoxh me thn opoia, nomizw, den symfwnei h pleiochfia twn politwn. Ti ennoeite ``xeironomia kalhs qelhshs''; Dhladh, kapoios kanei xarh stoys Ellhnes polites poy plhrwnoyn to reyma anellipws; Giati, ama den plhrwseis to reyma, sto kobei h DEH. Toys kanei xarh, loipon, to syndikalistiko kommati ths DEH kai toys leei, se mia xeironomia kalhs qelhshs, sas dinoyme reyma shmera mish wra parapanw h mia wra parapanw; Diafwnw teleiws me ayth thn proseggish kai fantazomai kaqe Ellhnas poliths, o opoios mas akoyei h qa mas akoysei, qa diafwnei me ayth th logikh.

KAKALHS: Nai. H apergia pws fantazeste oti qa ginei; Den qa exei kamia epiptwsh;

KORAH: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn hmera poy paroysiazotan to nomosxedio gia to Asfalistiko sas eixa rwthsei edw an qa yparxei ryqmish gia toys boyleytes. Moy eixate pei oti bebaiws kai qa yparxei kai malista ayto poy katalaba egw apo thn apanthsh sas htan oti aytes oi ryqmiseis qa einai kai poly pio prowqhmenes se sxesh me alla koinoboylia. Kai malista, mas parapemcate kai se anakoinwseis ths k. Petralia. H k. Petralia, omws, th monh anakoinwsh poy ekane htan oti qa akoloyqhsoyn aytes oi ryqmiseis gia toys boyleytes. Qelw na moy peite, an yparxei ena xronodiagramma, pote qa ginoyn aytes oi ryqmiseis kai giati den eginan twra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Edwsa hdh mia apanthsh, opws eipate. Shmera to meshmeri, arxizei sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs h syzhthsh gia to Asfalistiko. Perimenete, loipon, sthn Epitroph ths Boylhs kai sth synexeia sthn Olomeleia, gia na deite.

SPYRAKH: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh antimetwpizei to endexomeno, meta th synexizomenh kinhtopoihsh twn ergazomenwn sth DEH, na periorisei thn paroxh toy reymatos ths ychlhs isxyos poy, apo o,ti lene apo th DEH, afora 25 pelates sth xwra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Rwthqhka nwritera kai eipa oti apotelei to 10% ths energeias.

SPYRAKH: Na sas rwthsw kai kati allo. Se o,ti afora to Skopiano, exei ypoch ths h kybernhsh to endexomeno na klhqoyn stis 17 toy mhnos ek neoy oi ekproswpoi ths Elladas kai twn Skopiwn apo ton Maqioy Nimits kai an to exei, se poio epipedo qa ginei o neos gyros;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw kati tetoio, alla qa enhmerwqw apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai qa sas apanthsw ayrio.

KAKALHS: Ektima h kybernhsh oti akoloyqwntas ayth th syntagh propagandas toy Gkempels, ``pes, pes sto telos kati qa meinei'' oti sto telos qa exei apotelesmata; Dhladh, oses fores kai an peite oti isxyoyn ta tria proeklogika ``den'' toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto telos qa peisete ton ellhniko lao oti isxyoyn;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Perimenete apanthsh;

KAKALHS: Nai. Ejakoloyqeite eseis na pisteyete oti isxyoyn ta tria proeklogika ``den''; Ejakoloyqeite na to lete;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Nai.

KAKALHS: Gi ayto krineste bebaia.

N. PAPADHMHTRIOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxoyn kapoies epimeroys diatajeis, se o,ti afora toys ergazomenoys ths DEH, poy polloi qewroyn oti isws na einai kai to kleidi sthn ypoqesh. Fer` eipein ekeinoi epikaloyntai oti to Tameio toys temaxizetai se tessera diaforetika Tameia. Skeftetai h kybernhsh na janakoitajei kapoies apo tis diatajeis poy aforoyn eidika th DEH;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den gnwrizw na yparxei opoiadhpote allagh se sxesh me ayto to opoio exei katateqei sth Boylh.

KAKALHS: Se kyriakatiko sxolio sas, anarwtiosaste poios qa katalabei th deyterh qesh sto kommatiko systhma. Mhpws qa einai h Nea Dhmokratia meta thn protash gia to Asfalistiko;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kat arxas den apantw gia qemata ta opoia aforoyn th dikh moy proswpikh apoch. Omws, shmera, qa kanw mia ejairesh eidika gia sas.

KAKALHS: Giati proswpikh; San Ypoyrgos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kaqenas exei mia apoch. To erwthma poy eteqh ston omiloynta kai ypografonta to arqro htan gia to dikommatismo. O dikommatismos exei dyo poloys. Ton enan ton gnwrizoyme. Einai h Nea Dhmokratia. Sth deyterh qesh, ston dikommatismo, den jerw poio qa einai.

Sas eyxaristw.


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