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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-09-08

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 8 Septembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 157766770

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BRIEFING(080908)

YPOYRGOS EPIKRATEIAS

Aqhna, 8 Septembrioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO QEODWRO ROYSOPOYLO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs ayth thn wra synantatai, sto Megaro Majimoy, me ton eidiko symboylo toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE gia thn Kypro, k. Alejanter Ntaoyner. Ayrio, stis 10.00, qa exei synanthsh me ton Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn ths Kyproy k. Marko Kyprianoy.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ton teleytaio kairo dexeste syxna-pykna epiqeseis, me erwthseis, me dhmosieymata. Qa elega oti apokoryfwma olwn htan xqes, sthn Ekqesh Qessalonikhs. Hqela na sas rwthsw, loipon: Aisqaneste oti exete stoxopoihqei apo kapoioys; Kai an to aisqaneste ayto, mhpws qelete na mas to peite;

ROYSOPOYLOS: An to aisqanomoyn, qa sas to elega.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Na arxisw tis ``sthmenes'' moy erwthseis, kyrie Ypoyrge. Loipon, fantazomai oti den qa sas katatropwsw. Ean baqmologoysate ton Prwqypoyrgo gia th xqesinh toy paroysia sth synenteyjh, ti baqmo qa toy dinate, kyrie Ypoyrge; Arista, poly kalos, metrios, aneparkhs;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Den eimaste se sxoleio, den eimai daskalos gia na baqmologhsw kanenan. Oi Ellhnes polites parakoloyqhsan ton Prwqypoyrgo, toso sthn omilia toy, oso kai sth synenteyjh poy edwse stoys dhmosiografoys, xqes to meshmeri. Oi Ellhnes polites gnwrizoyn oti exoyn enan Prwqypoyrgo, o opoios leei thn alhqeia, o opoios perigrafei mia pragmatikothta poy zoyme oloi sto dieqnes periballon -alla kai sth xwra mas- kai o opoios dinei tis lyseis mesa apo politikes staqeres, sigoyres, oysiastikes kai panw ap` ola  epanalambanw- eilikrineis.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Para thn kalych poy sas edwse xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, toso se esas, oso kai ston k. Boylgarakh, amesws meta arxisan na yparxoyn gkrinies kai dhlwseis, opws gia paradeigma, h dhlwsh toy k. Ebert sto radiofwno toy Alpha, h dhlwsh toy k. Cwmiadh, toy k. Manwlh... Telika o Prwqypoyrgos den katafere na peisei ta stelexh toy kommatos toy gia to dikaio twn apocewn toy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H parathrhsh thn opoia kanate proypoqetei oti ta stelexh ta opoia anaferate h alla stelexh exoyn kataferqei, me dhlwseis toys, enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den eida kati tetoio.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, parathrhsa to ejhs, xqes, apo tis apanthseis poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos. Apokleiei men thn piqanothta na yparjoyn prowres ekloges kai apo thn allh, o sxediasmos poy anaptyssei ejantleitai sto epomeno tetramhno. Parathrhsa, dhladh, oti oi basikoi stoxoi poy qetei h kybernhsh apo twra kai sto ejhs einai na oloklhrwqei omala h chfish toy Proypologismoy, o ``Kapodistrias'', h ejygiansh ths Olympiakhs, gia thn opoia mono gia toys ergazomenoys milhse  to anaferw ayto eirhsqw en parodw- kai apo kei kai pera den gnwrizoyme ti qa kanei. Anarwtiemai, loipon, an o Prwqypoyrgos exei enan allo sxediasmo, ton opoio apefyge na anaferei xqes, h an pragmati, meta to trimhno-tetramhno ayto, meta to telos toy xronoy, arxizoyn oi eklogikoi sxediasmoi kai gia thn kybernhsh.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Gia ta qemata poy qigontai sto deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, exei apanthsei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos kai nomizw, me tosh safhneia, poy den xreiazetai na pw egw tipote perissotero. Se o,ti afora to prwto, omws, exoyme enan xroniko orizonta ston Proypologismo, o opoios tiqetai ws orizontas -opws kaqe xrono allwste- gia qemata poy prepei na ginoyn ws tote. Apo kei kai pera, h politikh ths kybernhshs synexizetai. Yparxoyn zhthmata ta opoia exoyn na kanoyn me thn efarmogh toy spoydaioy metarryqmistikoy nomoy gia to Asfalistiko, thn asfalistikh metarryqmish. H efarmogh toy exei arxisei na ginetai prajh sta xronodiagrammata poy exoyme qesei kai synexizetai kai peran toy Dekembrioy. Exoyme zhthmata poy aforoyn thn Ygeia kai thn efarmogh twn programmatikwn mas protasewn poy synexizontai. Molis thn perasmenh ebdomada syzhthsame sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph thn eqnikh strathgikh gia thn Paideia. Yparxei mia seira apo megala qemata, ta opoia synexizontai, asxetws toy Dekembrioy poy balate ws xroniko orio, poy einai mono gia ton Proypologismo xroniko orio kai tipote perissotero.

XIWTHS: Apodexomai, loipon, oti den ypokryptei sxediasmoys prowrwn eklogwn. Se o,ti afora twra tis sygkekrimenes ejaggelies, epitrecte moy na pw oti einai kapws aoristes. Paradeigma: H Olympiakh. Gia thn Olympiakh o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti programmatizetai ena programma eqeloysias ejodoy kai metatajewn gia toys ergazomenoys. Den eipe ti qa ginei gia thn idia thn etaireia. Apo palia desmeysh toy, qymamai poy elege h qa poylhqei h qa kleisei. Isxyei ayth h desmeysh; Kai an isxyei, me poio tropo qa ginei; Qa krathsei kapoio pososto to Dhmosio h qa idiwtikopoihqei plhrws; Einai zhthmata ta opoia, epitrecte moy na pw, perimena na akoysw apo ton Prwqypoyrgo na prosdiorisei kai mporei eseis na exete perissoteres plhrofories.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Pantws h erwthsh sas exei mia antifash se sxesh me thn prohgoymenh. Dioti efoson yparxoyn anoixta qemata kai gia to epekeina, gia meta ton Dekembrio, ara den isxyei o syllogismos poy kanate sthn arxh. Se kaqe periptwsh, h Olympiakh Aeroporia...

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sygnwmh, mexri ton Dekembrio etsi ki alliws qa ginei.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Se kaqe periptwsh, opws gnwrizete, gia thn Olympiakh Aeroporia exoyn ginei dhlwseis, kai mexri prosfata, toy k. Xatzhdakh o opoios milhse analytika gia to qema ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy meta apo synanthsh poy eixe me ton Prwqypoyrgo. Qa sas qymisw oti sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia exoyn parelqei, toylaxiston epi kybernhsewn Neas Dhmokratias, tria kai pleon eth, opoy ginetai mia poly shmantikh prospaqeia sthn Komision, sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, na lyqoyn problhmata poy yphrxan. To megisto problhma olwn, opws qymaste, htan na anagnwristei to isoposo twn xrewn poy exei h Olympiakh pros to Dhmosio apo ta xreh poy exei to Dhmosio pros thn Olympiakh. Ayto to zhthma, opws exei pei kai o k. Xatzhdakhs, einai se poly kalo dromo. Apo kei kai pera, sas qymizw epishs oti oi desmeyseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy -poy epanelhfqhsan- gia to oti den qa xasoyn oi ergazomenoi th doyleia toys kai gia to oti yparxei ena sxedio oloklhrwmeno  eixe ginei poly megalh syzhthsh gi` ayto to sxedio prin apo 2 - 2,5 xronia, qymhqeite oti o tote Yfypoyrgos k. Gerasimos Giakoymatos eixe dwsei analytika stoixeia gi` ayto- gia to ti qa ginei sthn Olympiakh Aeroporia ths neas epoxhs.

SARANTAKOS: Problhmatizoyn thn kybernhsh oi parembaseis istorikwn stelexwn ths Neas Dhmokratias ta opoia parakinoyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na parei metra sto eswteriko ths kybernhshs kai ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas; Kai milaw gia ton k. Ebert, ton k. Kefalogiannh alla kai ton k. Barbitsiwth.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eikositesseris wres meta thn apanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy sto antistoixo erwthma, poy an den me apata h mnhmh moy ypeblhqh pali apo esas, den nomizw oti qa prepei na allajw, den yparxei kai logos, na allajw thn apanthsh.

SARANTAKOS: Na sas qymisw thn apanthsh;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw.

SARANTAKOS: Oti exei apanthsei moy eipe kai den prokeitai na epanelqei, gi` ayto sas rwtaw.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Eixe apanthsei, loipon, nwritera. Eprepe na sas dwsw to logo nwritera tote sth synenteyjh.

SARANTAKOS: Swsta.

KAKALHS: Se antiqesh me ta osa yposthrije xqes o Prwqypoyrgos sth DEQ oti h xwra kai h oikonomia kineitai sth swsth kateyqynsh, to 74,7%, symfwna me to gkalop ths MRB ston ELEYQERO TYPO, exei diaforetikh apoch. Pisteyei oti h xwra kineitai se laqos kateyqynsh. Ti symbainei; Poia ejhghsh dinete eseis; O kosmos den katalabainei ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn politikh toy h h politikh ths kybernhshs brisketai se kraygalea antiqesh me tis anagkes toy kosmoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Xwris na mpainw sthn oysia twn dhmoskophsewn, giati allwste th qesh moy th gnwrizete polla xronia twra, kanontas mia mikrh parekbash apo ayto, qa sas elega oti prin apo liges meres se allh dhmoskophsh htan diaforetiko to pososto to opoio kategrafh gia ta oikonomika metra ths kybernhshs. Kata synepeia, antilambaneste oti den qa sxoliasw perissotero ayth th dhmoskophsh poy moy anaferete. Qa epimeinw omws oti akoloyqoyme mia politikh h opoia mporei na mhn einai eyxaristh, opws exei dhlwsei kat` epanalhch o Prwqypoyrgos, alla einai xrhsimh stis krisimes dieqneis sygkyries tis opoies pername.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla h dhmoskophsh thn opoia epikaleiste htan prin apo ta metra kai edeixne, htan sth bash oti qa ejaggeilei metra gia thn patajh. Meta ta metra oi dhmoskophseis poy exoyn ginei deixnoyn akribws oti to 70%, 7 stoys 10 dhladh, qewroyn oti einai adika ayta ta metra.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epanalambanw, den qa mpw sthn oysia ths dhmoskophshs alla htan otan ta metra syzhtoynto thn prohgoymenh ebdomada kai oxi prin sthn armodia epitroph ths Boylhs.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: H KAQHMERINH toy Sabbatoy eixe ena dhmosieyma, symfwna me to opoio o k. Boylgarakhs, h etaireia toy mallon, h EPE poy eixe systhsei, enanti 18.000 eyrw to 2005 agorase ton 7o orofo toy Pyrgoy twn Aqhnwn. H ajia toy htan sxedon 900.000 eyrw. Dyo xronia argotera, poylhse ston k. Prokopioy ayton ton orofo enanti 70.000 eyrw. Dhladh exei tosa polla o k. Boylgarakhs poy xarizei enan oloklhro orofo; Giati peri aytoy prokeitai.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Exei ejantlhqei to qema. O idios o Ypoyrgos exei kanei dhlwseis, nomizw kai sto diko sas Meso Enhmerwshs.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Aytes oi dhlwseis htan prin bgei o ebdomos.

ROYSOPOYLOS: Qa meinw se ayta ta opoia exoyn eipwqei apo ton ypoyrgo. Doqhke kai mia genikh apanthsh, xqes, apo ton Prwqypoyrgo gia synallages oi opoies exoyn katagrafei sto ``poqen esxes'' toy ypoyrgoy, efoson einai kai polla xronia boyleyths, opws gnwrizete.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, parathrw oti den mas diafwtizete kai toso stis apories mas...

ROYSOPOYLOS: Giati to lete ayto;

XIWTHS: Giati mexri twra, stis dikes moy toylaxiston. Qa kanw allh mia prospaqeia: Exete ypoch sas ti ennooyse o Prwqypoyrgos otan eipe oti h DEH prepei na proxwrhsei sthn eswterikh anadiarqrwsh ths; Ypokryptei kai proqeseis allaghs ths hgesias ths;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Oxi, den yparxei kati tetoio. Ekeino to opoio eipe o Prwqypoyrgos einai ayto to opoio hdh ginetai kai einai se ejelijh. Gnwrizete poly kala oti brisketai se ejelijh ena sxedio toy neoy dioikhth ths DEH gia thn anadiorganwsh kai thn anadiarqrwsh qesewn kai proswpwn sto eswteriko ths etaireias, oi opoies qa bohqhsoyn th DEH na ginei akomh kalyterh.

XIWTHS: Gnwrizete, mhpws, an o Prwqypoyrgos exei xasei thn empistosynh toy stis rhtorikes toy ikanothtes; Dioti, opws epishmainoyn shmera oi efhmerides, alla parathrhsame kai emeis, sta koryfaia zhthmata ths epikairothtas diabaze apanthseis tis opoies eixe shmeiwsei se xartakia. Qewreite oti einai dikaiwma toy ayto h htan enas kakos epikoinwniakos toy xeirismos;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Opws blepete, exw ena fakelo mprosta moy, kaqe hmera poy erxomai sto press room, gia qemata poy me rwtate kaqhmerinws, polles fores ta idia. Alimono, an arxisoyme na amfisbhtoyme to dikaiwma toy kaqe politikoy, poso mallon toy Prwqypoyrgoy, na exei ariqmhtika h alla stoixeia, ta opoia qa synodeyoyn tis apanthseis toy. Ayto nomizw oti einai kati para poly aplo kai didetai epeidh eipate oti to diapistwsate eseis kai to grafoyn oi efhmerides. Profanws gia na to diapistwsete eseis, to grafoyn oi efhmerides, den grafoyn alloi tis efhmerides. Nomizw oti dhmioyrgeite mia diaforetikh entypwsh.

XIWTHS: Moy epitrepete na epanelqw;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Parakalw.

XIWTHS: Stis sygkekrimenes apanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy den yphrxan sygkekrimena stoixeia poy eprepe na symboyleyqei, noymera poy den qymotan. Einai ena politiko skeptiko to opoio exei apodeijei o k. Karamanlhs sto parelqon, kata thn tapeinh moy gnwmh, oti mporei kai na to kanei apo sthqoys. Allwste, fantazomai einai zhthmata poy qa eixate koybentiasei meres prin kai polles fores. Poia htan h anagkh na mhn jefygei se mia lejh h se mia frash gia thn apanthsh poy edwse, eite gia esas proswpika, eite gia ton k. Boylgarakh, eite gia to zhthma twn prowrwn eklogwn h toy anasxhmatismoy;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Kanete laqos sth diapistwsh sas. Den yphrxan tetoioy eidoys shmeiwseis, opws tis anaferete eseis. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe sta xeria toy, opwsdhpote, opws exei kaqe xrono se kaqe synenteyjh Typoy -kai anatrejte stis palaies synenteyjeis- stoixeia ta opoia xrhsimopoiei, opws kanei kaqe sobaros politikos kai poly perissotero o Prwqypoyrgos poy sebetai ton eayto toy kai toys polites. Antilambaneste oti eseis o idios kai oi dhmosiografoi genikotera, oti ean edideto ena lanqasmeno stoixeio se mia synenteyjh, ths ajias poy exei h synenteyjh sth D.E.Q., qa speydate na kathgorhsete ton Prwqypoyrgo gia lanqasmena stoixeia. Nomizw, omws, oti syzhtame ta aytonohta. Bebaiws, den einai ta mona aytonohta poy syzhtame. Einai kai alla.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa exete enhmerwqei ti synebh, xqes, sta diodia ths Traganas, etsi; Osoi epestrefan apo Qessalonikh, metajy aytwn kai o ypofainomenos, brhkame mia oyra 14 xiliometrwn. Pio pisw htan o yfypoyrgos k. Blaxos, o opoios malista exei hdh ekfrasei thn aganakthsh toy, apo o,ti enhmerwqhka, se radiofwnikoys staqmoys kai ola ayta synebhsan giati; Giati eixe poly kinhsh kai arnoyntan ekei oi idiwtes, oi opoioi exoyn analabei th diaxeirish twn diodiwn, na anoijoyn tis mpares na perasei o kosmos. Qewreite, loipon, oti ayth h politikh epilogh ths kybernhshs na paraxwrhsei se idiwtes th diaxeirish twn esodwn apo ta diodia, telika htan orqh h prepei na yparjoyn kai kapoies beltiwseis sthn poreia;

ROYSOPOYLOS: H epilogh exei analyqei eparkws apo to armodio ypoyrgeio. Gnwrizete poly kala oti sto parelqon exoyn ginei sxetikes erwthseis kai edw, alla kai sto YPEXWDE, gia tis times twn diodiwn, gia tis allages poy eginan. Menw se aytes tis apanthseis. Den exw na pw kati perissotero.

PALAIOLOGOS: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete mono to logo ths xqesinhs apoysias toy k. Boylgarakh apo th synenteyjh Typoy toy Prwqypoyrgoy sth DEQ;

ROYSOPOYLOS: Epitrecte moy na pw oti den einai qema ayto. Oi ypoyrgoi metexoyn synhqws sthn omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, tines ej aytwn paramenoyn thn epomenh hmera gia na parakoloyqhsoyn kai th synenteyjh Typoy.

Sas eyxaristw.


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