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Greek Government Press Briefing, 08-12-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 15 Dekembrioy 2008

Ariqmos Deltioy: 175350950

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 15 Dekembrioy 2008

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete kai kalh ebdomada.

" O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs, synodeyomenos apo thn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn k. Ntora Mpakogiannh, paresthsan shmera, Deytera 15 Dekembrioy, sthn khdeia toy tews Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Tassoy Papadopoyloy.

" Ayrio, Trith stis 11.00, qa pragmatopoihqei sthn aiqoysa Geroysias ths Boylhs, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedroy ths Neas Dhmokratias k. Kwsta Karamanlh, synedriash ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias, me qema ``H pagkosmia oikonomikh krish kai oi epiptwseis ths''.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa ginei ayrio to briefing;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Opws den ginetai panta otan synedriazei h Koinoboyleytikh Omada.

KAPRALOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa hqela na rwthsw to ejhs: Ton perasmeno mhna eixate afhsei anoixto to endexomeno gia systash Proanakritikhs Epitrophs, oson afora sthn ypoqesh Batopaidioy. Shmera, meta thn oloklhrwsh twn ergasiwn ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, h kybernhsh ti blepei; Blepei oti exoyn prokycei stoixeia gia th systash kai Proanakritikhs, kaqws opws ola deixnoyn, ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs qa kataqesoyn kai sxetiko aithma.

ANTWNAROS: Na epishmanw to ejhs: To porisma ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, to opoio einai apotelesma mias poly systhmatikhs, se baqos ergasias kai ereynas, poy arxise me prwtoboylia toy kommatos ths Neas Dhmokratias, me prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs - -h opoia, opws gnwrizete, eixe proteinei kai th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs- - epedoqh molis prin apo ligh wra, ston Proedro ths Boylhs k. Dhmhtrh Sioyfa. Den eixa, synepws, oyte ton tropo, oyte to xrono na melethsw ayto to ektenes keimeno - -einai 95 selides- - wste na mporw na topoqethqw leptomereiaka ep` aytoy. Ena-dyo pragmata mono qa hqela na pw: To porisma diapistwnei jekaqara kai pera apo opoiadhpote amfibolia th mh yparjh, thn anyparjia dhladh, poinikwn eyqynwn.

MANH: Apo thn enhmerwsh poy mas ekane o Proedros ths Ejetastikhs k. Markogiannakhs kai apo osa prolabame kai emeis na doyme sto porisma, giati opws katalabainete, mporei na einai peripoy 100 selides, alla oloi phgame stis dyo teleytaies poy einai to ``dia tayta'', ginetai logos gia politikes eyqynes. Eseis mas eixate pei dyo fores se ayth thn aiqoysa oti kata thn proswpikh sas apoch, den yphrxan politikes eyqynes. Exei allajei kati;

ANTWNAROS: Eixa pei kati sygkekrimeno. Den eimai, prwta ap` ola, edw gia na apodidw h mh eyqynes. Eixa pei oti den moy proekyptan se sygkekrimeno xroniko shmeio - -se ayto anaferqhka- - ayto to opoio eipate: Eyqynes. Shmasia exei oti h Ejetastikh Epitroph eixe thn apostolh na diereynhsei thn ypoqesh se baqos, to opoio kai ekane. Oloklhrwse tis ergasies ths kai exoyn katagrafei ta eyrhmata sto porisma. Qa elega oti oloi qa prepei na to diabasoyn prosektika, gia na mh speydoyn na kanoyn mia yperaploysteysh twn eyrhmatwn kai twn diapistwsewn poy periexontai sto porisma ths Epitrophs.

KAKALHS: Otan h kybernhsh ``koykoylwnei'' ena karampinato skandalo, to pollosto sth seira, poio einai to mhnyma poy stelnei sthn koinwnia kai den einai dikaiologhmenh apo to shmeio ayto kai meta, h orgh toy kosmoy gia th stash ths kybernhshs poy sygkalyptei kai ``koykoylwnei'' ta skandala;

ANTWNAROS: Sas ypenqymizw: H kybernhsh einai ekeinh h opoia proteine sth Boylh kai proxwrhse, me th symfwnh gnwmh twn allwn kommatwn poy ekproswpoyn toys Ellhnes polites sto Koinoboylio, sth systash ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, prokeimenoy na diereynhqei h ypoqesh se baqos. Synepws, ayto to opoio eseis ypainisseste ws dhqen sygkalych, den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

KAKALHS: Oyte skandalo kan den anagnwrizete, oyte poly perissotero politikes eyqynes sthn kybernhsh. Dhladh, poios to ekane to skandalo;

ANTWNAROS: To exete diabasei to porisma;

KAKALHS: Oxi, den to exw diabasei egw, alla h politikh qesh me endiaferei.

ANTWNAROS: Sas synistw na to diabasete prwta.

KAKALHS: H politikh qesh ths kybernhshs me endiaferei emena. H kybernhsh apo thn arxh htan yper ths sygkalychs kai ayto apodeiknyetai sto telos.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas apoch, thn opoia den symmerizomai kai den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nomizw, wstoso, oti qa exete diabasei oti sto porisma twn boyleytwn ths Neas Dhmokratias...

ANTWNAROS: Einai to porisma ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Nai, apo thn pleyra ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ANTWNAROS: Einai to porisma ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, poy ginetai logos, epitrecte moy na synexisw, nomizw oti qa to exete diabasei, gia antikeimenikes politikes eyqynes se osoys toylaxiston ypegracan. Den jerw poioys ``fwtografizei''. Eseis mporeite na moy peite, ti anakalyptete pisw apo th frash ``antikeimenikes politikes eyqynes'';

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw, epeidh diapistwnw oti den exete diabasei to porisma...

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, exw diabasei, omws, th sygkekrimenh ayth anafora peri antikeimenikwn politikwn eyqynwn. Nomizw oti qa thn exete diabasei kai eseis.

ANTWNAROS: Mporeite na moy peite se poia selida einai h frash poy anaferate, gia na th brw kai egw; Dioti ayto, ej oswn gnwrizw, ayth h fraseologia, den moy fainetai na antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta. Etsi opws thn eipate oloklhrh th frash toylaxiston.

PALAIOLOGOS: Ara, qa jerete, loipon, poia einai h fraseologia. Mporeite na mas peite gia thn akribh fraseologia;

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. To porisma qa to diabasete eseis. Den prokeitai na sas kanw analysh toy porismatos.

PALAIOLOGOS: Oxi, eipa, an to exete diabasei, epeidh amfisbhthsate ayto poy eipa, ypociazomai oti qa jerete epakribws.

ANTWNAROS: En pash periptwsei, h erwthsh sas poia einai;

PALAIOLOGOS: Lew, ti shmainei ``antikeimenikes eyqynes Ypoyrgwn'';

ANTWNAROS: Gi` ayto, parakalw, na apeyqynqeite se eidikoys oi opoioi qa sas to ejhghsoyn. Ayto sto opoio anafereste, apotelei mia oloklhrh, megalh paragrafo sto porisma, thn opoia eyxaristws qa sas th dwsw meta apo thn enhmerwsh, prokeimenoy kai eseis na enhmerwqeite gia ti akribws prokeitai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Prepei na sas pw oti thn exoyme mesw koinoboyleytikwn syntaktwn. Eseis mporeite na mas peite, ti yponoeitai pisw apo ayth th frash; Nomizw oti einai mia frash h opoia epelegh apo boyleytes, synadelfoys sas dhladh, ths Neas Dhmokratias.

ANTWNAROS: Sas apanthsa. Den exw na pw kati allo.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh exei dhmioyrghqei mia sygxysh qa sas rwthsw gia dyo qemata sta opoia qelw th qesh ths kybernhshs thn opoia ekfrazete. To prwto skelos ths erwthshs moy einai an h kybernhsh telikws, afoy exei labei gnwsh, ap` o,ti katalabainw, toy porismatos, qewrei oti yparxoyn h den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes sthn ypoqesh toy Batopaidioy;

ANTWNAROS: Apanthsa kai prohgoymenws kai qa to epanalabw: To porisma perilambanei eyrhmata, ta opoia einai apotelesma ths endelexoys, makras, systhmatikhs ergasias kai ereynas poy egine ap` oloys toys boyleytes, oi opoioi metexoyn se ayth thn Ejetastikh Epitroph, ths opoias th systash zhthse h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Ta eyrhmata poy yparxoyn se ayto to porisma qa melethqoyn kai qa ajiologhqoyn analogws.

XIWTHS: Exw kai ena deytero skelos, alla se o,ti afora to prwto, mexri twra exoyme akoysei antikroyomenes apoceis apo thn idia thn kybernhsh, exoyme akoysei th dikh sas frash oti kata th dikh sas gnwmh den yparxoyn eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti sto sygkekrimeno xroniko shmeio den moy prokyptoyn.

XIWTHS: Thn perasmenh ebdomada htan to sygkekrimeno xroniko shmeio.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi. Prin treis ebdomades peripoy.

XIWTHS: Malista, estw, to dexomai. Thn Paraskeyh o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti yparxei antikeimenika eyqynh ths Politeias se baqos dekaetias. Kai shmera oi plhrofories poy exoyme, einai oti sto porisma katagrafetai safhs yparjh politikwn eyqynwn sto porisma ths pleiochfias. Erwtw, loipon: Me bash ayta poy exoyn symbei kai me bash to porisma poy exete hdh sta xeria sas, h kybernhsh ti qesh ekfrazei; Yparxoyn h den yparxoyn politikes eyqynes;

ANTWNAROS: H kybernhsh exei th qesh oti qa melethsei osa perilambanontai sto porisma - -to opoio opws sas eipa, einai antikeimeno makras kai endelexoys ergasias- - kai qa ta ajiologhsei. Den exw na prosqesw kati.

XIWTHS: To deytero skelos ths erwthshs moy einai to ejhs: H kybernhsh eixe pei kata th diarkeia sygkrothshs ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, oti efoson oi ergasies oloklhrwqoyn, einai anoixth kai sthn piqanothta sygkrothshs Proanakritikhs Epitrophs.

ANTWNAROS: Me poia proypoqesh eixe pei h kybernhsh;

XIWTHS: Den qymamai na eixe qesei kapoia proypoqesh...

ANTWNAROS: Qa eprepe.

XIWTHS: Eipe qa melethsei tis ergasies...

ANTWNAROS: Efoson syntrexoyn oi proypoqeseis.

XIWTHS: Malista. Wraia, symfwnoyme se ayto. Apo th stigmh poy exete pleon to porisma sta xeria sas, h kybernhsh syzhta thn piqanothta na sygkrothqei Proanakritikh Epitroph;

ANTWNAROS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, h legomenh Proanakritikh Epitroph - -dioti den einai aytos o swstos oros o perilambanomenos stis diatajeis poy isxyoyn- - sygkroteitai efoson yparxei h diapistwnetai yponoia h ypocia gia poinikes eyqynes. To porisma, ej oswn gnwrizw, leei jekaqara oti den yparxoyn tetoies eyqynes.

XIWTHS: Ara, eikazoyme oti h kybernhsh den syzhta thn piqanothta sygkrothshs Proanakritikhs Epitrophs.

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na pw kati allo.

XIWTHS: Giati, moy epitrepete na pw, otan dexqhke h kybernhsh th sygkrothsh Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, den dexotan oti yphrxan politikes eyqynes. Para tayta, dexqhke th sygkrothsh ths Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, piezomenh profanws, apo th dynamikh...

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw kai pali na diabasete olo to porisma, dioti antiqeta me ayto poy lene kapoioi, den einai qema mias, dyo h triwn selidwn. Einai h sygkrothsh oloy toy keimenoy, to opoio einai megalo keimeno. Prin katalhjei kapoios se symperasmata, kalo einai na to melethsei.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sygxwreste me gia thn epimonh moy. Den qelw na katalhjw se symperasmata kai den stekomai sto porisma.

ANTWNAROS: Oi erwthseis poy moy kanete deixnoyn oti katalhgete se symperasmata.

XIWTHS: Poio einai to symperasma;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa kanw analysh twn erwthsewn sas.

XIWTHS: Oxi, egw zhthsa th qesh ths kybernhshs opws thn ekfrazei shmera gia dyo zhthmata.

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhka.

XIWTHS: Epitrecte moy na pw, den thn exw oyte ws pros to ena skelos, oyte ws pros to deytero.

ANTWNAROS: Fantazomai oti qa sxoliasete pros ayth thn kateyqynsh.

MANH: Ta ypoloipa kommata ths antipoliteyshs stis dikes toys porismatikes ekqeseis, to lew swsta, miloyn gia peraiterw eyqynes poy xrhzoyn diereynhshs. To PASOK epanabebaiwse shmera thn proqesh toy na kataqesei protash gia Proanakritikh Epitroph meta tis giortes. Se ayth thn periptwsh, to kybernwn komma qa parameinei sthn chfoforia h qa fygei pali;

ANTWNAROS: Me rwtate na topoqethqei h kybernhsh gia ena qema to opoio akomh den exei prokycei;

MANH: H proqesh einai profanhs, einai gnwsth. Qa perimenete na katateqei epishma to aithma;

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn anakoinwsh proqesewn mexri th dienergeia mias prajhs polles fores, h apostash einai poly megalh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: An katalaba kala, kai sygnwmh ean den katalaba, prin sthn erwthsh toy k. Palaiologoy toy eipate oti den einai etsi h frash.

ANTWNAROS: To synolo ths frashs.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Yparxei mia oloklhrh paragrafos, etsi eipate.

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti h frash thn opoia diatypwse o k. Palaiologos...

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Antikeimenikes politikes eyqynes.

ANTWNAROS: Kai ayto poy eipe meta. Yparxei mia oloklhrh paragrafos.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Poy shmainei oti eseis ayth thn paragrafo thn exete diabasei.

ANTWNAROS: Den exete para na th diabasete kai eseis.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Poy shmainei oti eseis, oti h eikona gia to porisma, gia to ti leei to porisma kai ti symperasmata bgazei, sto ftwxo moy to myalo lew oti piqanon na exete.

ANTWNAROS: Oxi, den exw. Sas to lew eyqews.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: To diabazete xwris na exete.

ANTWNAROS: Exw diabasei orismena apospasmata, alla den eixa th dynatothta, oyte to xrono na diabasw oloklhro to keimeno. Opws antilambaneste, kaneis anqrwpos den mporei na diabasei mesa se diasthma triwn tetartwn mia ekqesh kai malista ena keimeno synqeto, nomiko, 95 selidwn.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Dekton. Lew, h yparjh politikwn eyqynwn diathrei to qema toy Batopaidioy sto epipedo ths ypoqeshs h kai h kybernhsh qa arxisei na thn xarakthrizei skandalo apo dw kai pera;

ANTWNAROS: Menw sthn apanthsh thn opoia sas edwsa. Qa melethsoyme kai qa ajiologhsoyme ola ta stoixeia ta opoia perilambanontai sto porisma.

PALAIOLOGOS: Epeidh egw qa epimeinw se ayto poy toylaxiston moy metaferqhke apo ajiologo koinoboyleytiko syntakth peri antikeimenikwn eyqynwn, efoson diapistwnontai tetoioy eidoys eyqynes se Ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, den jerw apo kei kai pera, mporei aytoi oi Ypoyrgoi na menoyn meta sth qesh toys;

ANTWNAROS: Kai se ayto menw sthn apanthsh poy sas eipa. Ola ta stoixeia qa melethqoyn kai qa ajiologhqoyn.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, olh thn teleytaia ebdomada kai idiaitera to Sabbatokyriako, o dieqnhs Typos xleyazei thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai grafei kaqoloy kolakeytika sxolia gia ton Prwqypoyrgo. Sas apasxolei ayth h eikona; Skopeyete na kanete kati gia na anatrecete ayto to klima;

ANTWNAROS: Sas parapempw sthn apanthsh poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos thn Paraskeyh, sthn idia akribws erwthsh.

KAKALHS: H k. Ntora Mpakogiannh se germanikh efhmerida eipe oti perimene kati tetoio, oti kapote qa synebaine, anaferomenh sta gegonota kai stis ejelijeis ths perasmenhs ebdomadas logw ths krishs poy exei prokalesei h epiprosqeth anasfaleia kai o fobos gia to mellon. H kybernhsh synolika perimene kati tetoio; Genika mia tetoia ejelijh kai deytero me dedomeno oti h krish einai mprosta perimenei na symboyn kai alla tetoia gegonota;

ANTWNAROS: Ean den me apata h mnhmh moy, h prwtotyph apanthsh poy edwse h k. Mpakogiannh, h opoia dhmosieyetai shmera, einai poly pio synqeth apo ayto poy metaferate.

KAKALHS: Epi ths oysias omws, me ypekfyges den ginetai tipota. Epi ths oysias eseis perimenate san kybernhsh h perimenate tetoia epipleon gegonota sth synexeia;

ANTWNAROS: Exoyme topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws gia ta gegonota ths perasmenhs ebdomadas. Teleytaia fora topoqethqhke o Prwqypoyrgos. Den exw na prosqesw kati se ayto.

KAKALHS: Ta qewreite teleiwmena; Gia sas aytes oi ejelijeis exoyn teleiwsei;

ANTWNAROS: Poies ejelijeis;

KAKALHS: Me thn ejegersh twn maqhtwn gia thn en cyxrw dolofonia toy 15xronoy maqhth, thn opoia pote den anagnwrisate ws tetoia.

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti kanete ena laqos. H kybernhsh exei topoqethqei epaneilhmmenws gia ton adiko xamo toy 15xronoy maqhtoy me poly jekaqaro tropo. H ereyna ep' aytoy einai antikeimeno ths Dikaiosynhs. Kai qa sas to pw gia mia akomh fora: Emeis exoyme plhrh empistosynh sth leitoyrgia ths Dikaiosynhs. Oloi osoi einai ypeyqynoi qa ypostoyn tis synepeies. To eipe kai o Prwqypoyrgos thn Paraskeyh sth synenteyjh toy. To exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws oles aytes tis meres kai anarwtiemai giati epimenete na to agnoeite. H qesh ths kybernhshs einai jekaqarh. Jekaqarh qesh katadikhs. Katadikhs ths bias apo opoydhpote kai an proerxetai.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla epimenw na to agnow, opws to eipate, akribws giati h stash ths kybernhshs einai stash epibrabeyshs kai sygkalychs ths astynomikhs bias. Einai sigoyro oti qa janabreqei astynomikos poy qa strecei jana to oplo toy kata diadhlwth. Giati h kybernhsh pote den exei apodokimasei ayto to pragma; Oyte eseis thn perasmenh bdomada otan blepate ta opla twn astynomikwn na strefontai kata diadhlwtwn den to apodokimasate.

ANTWNAROS: Molis to ekana. Ean den qelete na to deite einai dikaiwma sas. Egw pantws antiqeta me sas, apeyxomai na symbei kati tetoio.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla otan dhmosieyei o ``Eleyqeros Typos'' fwtografies twn astynomikwn ejw apo th L. Alejandras na shmadeyoyn toys diadhlwtes, otan peftoyn sfaires kata diadhlwtwn katw sto P. Falhro, pote den ta apodokimasate ayta. Ara, ayto den shmainei oti toys epitrepete na bgazoyn ta opla;

ANTWNAROS: Allh erwthsh.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Ep' aytoy. Me sygxwreite den apanthsate sthn erwthsh toy k. Kakalh...

ANTWNAROS: Bebaiws kai apanthsa.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Symfwneite me to skeptiko ths k. Mpakogiannh;

ANTWNAROS: H k. Mpakogiannh ekane mia analytikh paroysiash twn qesewn ths, h opoia ejhgei orismena pragmata, sta opoia anaferqhke kai o Prwqypoyrgos thn Paraskeyh. Yparxei kamia amfibolia oti h dieqnhs oikonomikh krish exei dhmioyrghsei, exei prokalesei anastatwsh se olo ton kosmo; Dhladh eseis to amfisbhteite; Exete thn entypwsh oti h Ellada einai ena nhsi opoy ayta ta opoia symbainoyn se olo ton kosmo den ftanoyn pote; Apla, to lew gia mia akomh fora, gia na ginei katanohto: Oi synepeies ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs sthn Ellada, se sxesh me ayta poy symbainoyn se alles xwres, einai poly pio hpies. Den einai omws anyparktes. Einai yparktes.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qewreite fysiologiko na kaqysterei ayth h ballistikh ejetash - -poy apo tis liges gnwseis poy exw einai mia aplh diadikasia- - epi 12 hmeres; Gnwrizw oti yphrje mia logikh kaqysterhsh tis prwtes hmeres gia thn anazhthsh texnikwn symboylwn, alla apo ekei kai pera...

ANTWNAROS: Dwdeka hmeres;

XIWTHS: Nomizw, nai.

ANTWNAROS: Gia metrhste tes.

XIWTHS: Apo thn Kyriakh mexri th Deytera einai 11.

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn Kyriakh mexri th Deytera einai 11;

XIWTHS: Entajei, einai ennea.

ANTWNAROS: Apo thn Kyriakh mexri th Deytera einai ennea; Oyte kan ennea den einai. Apo 12 tis kanate 11, apo 11 tis kanate ennea kai einai oktw.

XIWTHS: Malista. Oi oktw einai liges hmeres; Den eimai kalos sta maqhmatika, oyte ...

ANTWNAROS: Epeidh eseis endexomenws exete gnwseis perissoteres apo emena...

XIWTHS: Oxi, exw elaxistes.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den exw kamia gnwsh epi toy sygkekrimenoy qematos. Synepws, den topoqetoymai. Egw exw thn pepoiqhsh oti oi anqrwpoi poy kanoyn tis sygkekrimenes ereynes, toys sygkekrimenoys elegxoys, kanoyn kala kai ypeyqyna th doyleia toys.

XIWTHS: Gnwrizete, otan oloklhrwqei en pash periptwsei ayth h ereyna, ean qa dhmosiopoihqei h an aplws qa staloyn ta eyrhmata ths kai ta symperasmata ths sth Dikaiosynh;

ANTWNAROS: Parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn, to opoio exei kai thn eyqynh aytoy toy qematos.

KAKARNIAS: Thn Paraskeyh, apo tis Bryjelles, o Prwqypoyrgos topoqethqhke gia to an yparxoyn politikes eyqynes sto Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn. Gia to qema, an h hgesia ths Astynomias exei eyqynes gia to o,ti synebh, qa moy epitrecete na pw oti to afhse anoikto. H kybernhsh pws krinei th stash ths Astynomias, twra poy exei perasei mia ebdomada, as poyme, apo ta epeisodia; Einai ikanopoihmenh; Qa ejetasei thn antidrash ths Astynomias; Qa zhthsei eyqynes;

ANTWNAROS: Parapempw sth dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy. Den exw na pw kati allo peran aytoy. O Prwqypoyrgos ekane mia synolikh topoqethsh gia th meleth toy qematos.

KALOGEROPOYLOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Proedros ths Dhmokratias qa synanthqei me th neosystaqeisa Epitroph G 700. Dhladh, me thn Epitroph h opoia exei apartistei gia na ekfrasei ta aithmata ths genias twn 700 eyrw. O Prwqypoyrgos prokeitai na kalesei ayth thn antiproswpeia;

ANTWNAROS: Otan exw kati, qa sas enhmerwsw.

KAKALHS: Stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias, opws o k. Miltiadhs Barbitsiwths kai o Nomarxhs Qessalonikhs, tassontai yper ths synergasias Neas Dhmokratias kai PASOK. H kybernhsh ektima oti yparxei tetoia anagkh poy na prokyptei apo tis teleytaies ejelijeis genikotera;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw thn yparjh kamias tetoias anagkhs.

KAKALHS: O Prwqypoyrgos, thn Paraskeyh stis Bryjelles, eipe oti h ellhnikh oikonomia einai se kalyterh katastash apo polles alles sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Wstoso, qa parathrhsate kai eseis, to Sabbatokyriako yphrjan dhmosieymata poy lene oti den exei na ejyphrethsei to dhmosio xreos mesa sto Flebarh-Marth, h kybernhsh kai yparxei kindynos prosfyghs sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio kai ypagwghs se trieth programmata staqeropoihshs.

ANTWNAROS: Egine paremferhs erwthsh ston Prwqypoyrgo, jerete, sxetika me to anoigma ths calidas toy kostoys daneismoy. Exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos ep` aytoy.

KAKALHS: Nai, jerw ti eipe o Prwqypoyrgos gi` ayto. Egw paw ena bhma pio pera kai lew ean yparxei kindynos na ypaxqei h xwra sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio kai na mpei se nea staqeropoihtika programmata.

ANTWNAROS: Na diabasw thn apanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy ep` aytoy; H Ellada...

KAKALHS: Jerw ti eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. Kamia sxesh.

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada ejyphretei pantote oles ths tis ypoxrewseis, xwris kamia ejairesh.

KAKALHS: Sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio qa synexisei na tis ejyphretei.

ANTWNAROS: Den katalabainete h den qelete na katalabete. Ejyphretei oles tis daneiakes ths ypoxrewseis xwris kamia apolytws ejairesh. Synepws, den tiqetai tetoio qema opws ayto poy qijate.

Sas eyxaristw.

" Ayrio, Trith 16 Dekembrioy, den qa pragmatopoihqei h enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn kai twn antapokritwn jenoy Typoy, logw ths synedriashs ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias.


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