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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-03-11

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 11 Martioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 190564652

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 11 Martioy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhspera.

" Me sygxwreite gia thn kaqysterhsh, poy ofeiletai sth diarkeia ths synedriashs ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs poy oloklhrwqhke prin apo ligo sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh.

H Kybernhtikh Epitroph asxolhqhke shmera me qemata toy Ypoyrgeioy Anaptyjhs. Sygkekrimena:

Prwton, me th ryqmish h opoia prowqeitai, sxetika me to sxedio nomoy gia tis etaireies enhmerwshs ofeiletwn gia lhjiproqesmes apaithseis. Prokeitai gia ryqmiseis gia tis opoies exei desmeytei h kybernhsh kai ginontai twra prajh. Perissotera qa plhroforhqeite apo to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs.

Deyteron, me thn kalyterh, apotelesmatikoterh leitoyrgia ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy.

" Qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw oti ayrio den qa ginei h kaqierwmenh enhmerwsh, opws den ginetai kaqe fora, poy pragmatopoieitai syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajews sth Boylh. Kai mia tetoia syzhthsh exoyme ayrio, gia qemata ejwterikhs politikhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Diabasame sthn efhmerida ``TO BHMA'' mia lista stoxwn tromokratikwn organwsewn kai tromokratikwn energeiwn, h opoia bebaiws emperieixe para polloys anqrwpoys, kladoys, tomeis, htan genikws mia poly gemath lista. Qa hqela na sas kanw mia erwthsh me dyo skelh. Prwton: Se sxesh me ayto kaqayto to gegonos oti kapoioi anqrwpoi, kapoioi kladoi kai kapoioi tomeis exoyn stoxopoihqei ap` thn tromokratia, an apasxoleitai, an problhmatizetai h kybernhsh. Kai deytero: An h diarroh enos tetoioy eggrafoy se mia, kaqola egkyrh bebaiws, efhmerida, apo thn Astynomia, mporei na episyrei kai paraithseis akomh.

ANTWNAROS: H diarroh opoioydhpote epishmoy eggrafoy, eidika otan exei empisteytiko xarakthra, einai apolytws katadikastea. Prwton, einai dysaresto to gegonos ths dhmosieyshs. Deyteron, qa hqela na pw, oti qa prepei na eimaste poly prosektikoi me th xrhsh tetoiwn orwn.

Den qelw na sxoliasw kati poy exei sxesh me thn epixeirhsiakh etoimothta twn diwktikwn Arxwn kai ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. Den to kanw pote kai den qa to kanw poly perissotero gia ena toso lepto qema.

Qa hqela na sas parakalesw na eiste poly prosektikoi me toys oroys poy xrhsimopoieite kai den to ennow, se kamia periptwsh, ws proswpikh momfh.

BASILAKOPOYLOS: Nai, poy anafereste;

ANTWNAROS: Qelw na pw to ejhs: Einai fysiko oi diwktikes Arxes, basei stoixeiwn ta opoia exoyn - -kai otan exoyn prohghqei orismenes paranomes energeies- - na lambanoyn oles ekeines tis profylajeis kai na pairnoyn ola ekeina ta metra ta opoia einai aparaithta, prokeimenoy na diafylassetai kai h dhmosia tajh kai h swmatikh akeraiothta Ellhnwn politwn. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

XIWTHS: Gnwrizete an ektos apo ayto ton katalogo, yparxoyn kai alloi katalogoi poy exei syntajei h Antitromokratikh h kapoia allh yphresia, me proswpa ta opoia krinetai oti prepei na froyroyntai perissotero thn prosexh periodo;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia epixeirhsiaka qemata ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias.

SMYRNHS: Hqela na rwthsw an gia tis eispraktikes etaireies me bash th ryqmish poy prowqeite qa problepontai kai kapoies poines oi opoies qa einai aysthres gia osoys parabainoyn to nomo, akomh kai na ftanoyn kai se loyketo.

ANTWNAROS: Qa hqela na sas pw oti den prokeitai pleon - -gia ayto kai xrhsimopoihsa ton kainoyrgio oro- - gia eispraktikes etaireies, dioti apagoreyetai rhta apo th nea ryqmish h eisprajh xrhmatikwn apaithsewn apo aytes tis etaireies.

Oi etaireies aytes - -akribws gi` ayto legontai ``etaireies enhmerwshs ofeiletwn''- - exoyn ypoxrewsh mesa se ena safes, aysthro, prodiagegrammeno kanonistiko plaisio - -kati poy den yphrxe mexri twra-- na enhmerwnoyn ofeiletes gia tis ofeiles poy exoyn pros diafora nomika proswpa. Qa to qesw etsi, me ayto ton oro, giati den afora mono to xrhmatopistwtiko tomea. Kai ayto to lew jekaqara.

Qa hqela, omws, na sas parakalesw - -egw sas dinw ayto to geniko perigramma- - gia o,ti afora tis eidikes ryqmiseis toy nomosxedioy, na erqete se epafh me to Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs, prokeimenoy na deite ti akribws problepetai. Oyte eidikos eimai, oyte fysika exw entryfhsei stis leptomereies twn sygkekrimenwn ryqmisewn, wste na mporesw na sas tis analysw peraiterw.

Ekeino, omws, to opoio jerw einai: Prwton, oti ginetai prajh mia rhth, sygkekrimenh desmeysh, thn opoia eixe analabei h kybernhsh kai deyteron, oti teleiwnei oristika to kaqestws aytwn twn amfilegomenwn eispraktikwn mhxanismwn.

TSIOYFOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio ths kybernhshs gia to keimeno poy yioqethse to ECOFIN sxetika me thn...

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhke me poly leptomereiako tropo, se ola ta qemata, hdh apo xqes, o armodios Ypoyrgos k. Papaqanasioy. Den exw na prosqesw kati allo.

STAQOPOYLOS: Egine enhmerwsh sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph, syzhthqhke kaqoloy to qema ths oikonomias; Kai an oxi...

ANTWNAROS: Sas anefera ta dyo qemata poy syzhthqhkan.

STAQOPOYLOS: Jerete an qa synedriasei h Diypoyrgikh Epitroph h h Kybernhtikh gi` ayto to qema;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kati ep` aytoy. Otan yparjei kati neotero, qa sas enhmerwsw.

XIWTHS: Hqela na rwthsw, h desmeysh xqes toy Ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn stis Bryjelles htan oti den epiblhqoyn neoi foroi kai idiaitera ayjhsh toy FPA. Den katalaba, omws, an h desmeysh ayth afora to paron h afora oloklhro to 2009, toylaxiston. Dhladh, eida mia qolh desmeysh ``den syzhtame neoys foroys''. Apo thn allh, omws, epeidh poly prosfata o Prwqypoyrgos eixe pei an xreiastei qa yparjoyn anagkaies prosarmoges, qelw na moy aposafhnisete, an h desmeysh ``den qa yparjoyn neoi foroi'' isxyei mono gi` ayth thn periodo h gia oloklhro to etos.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyei ayto poy exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos. Isxyei ayto to opoio eipe, xqes, o k. Papaqanasioy. Isxyei ayto to opoio exw pei kai egw, kat` epanalhch - -teleytaia fora, xqes- - se ayth thn aiqoysa.

To sxedio to opoio exoyme einai oloklhrwmeno kai proetoimasthke egkaira kai me kalo tropo. Einai ena sxedio, to opoio exoyme proqesh na efarmosoyme sto akeraio kai aparegklita kai mporei na mas odhghsei, exei tis dynatothtes - -ayto ennow- - stoys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei.

Apo ekei kai pera, epeidh oi ejelijeis sth dieqnh oikonomia oi opoies, opws gnwrizete, exoyn erqei sth xwra mas, kaqe stigmh, kaqe wra, kaqe hmera, epikairopoioyme kai prosarmozoyme ayto to sxedio. To eipe, xqes, o k. Papaqanasioy analytika, anaferontas kai sygkekrimena paradeigmata.

Epikairopoihsh toy sxedioy apotelei kai to gegonos oti apofasisthke na perioristoyn kata 10%, fer` eipein, oi elastikes dapanes. Prin apo treis-tesseris mhnes ayto den eixe problefqei.

Metro, opws eipe, einai kai oti meta apo 20 xronia anepityxwn prospaqeiwn breqhke lysh gia to qema ths Olympiakhs.

Metro einai akomh oti proxwroyme me grhgoroys ryqmoys sthn ejygiansh toy OSE.

Metro einai oti proxwra h Eidikh Epitroph Apokratikopoihsewn toy Sale and Lease Back. Xrhsimopoiw thn agglikh orologia, dioti den yparxei dokimh ellhnikh orologia.

Ola ayta, loipon - -kai to lew gia mia akomh fora- - me omprela thn prospaqeia poy exoyme hdh paroysiasei gia peristolh twn dapanwn sto dhmosio tomea, einai to basiko ergaleio to opoio qa mas odhghsei ston epiqymhto stoxo.

XIWTHS: Epitrecte moy na parathrhsw oti se ayto poy sas rwthsa den moy exete apanthsei. H erwthsh moy einai poly safhs. An h desmeysh gia mh epibolh newn forwn isxyei ews to telos toy etoys h an isxyei toylaxiston ws ton Ioynio h thn periodo twn eyrweklogwn dhladh kai apo ekei kai pera...

ANTWNAROS: Qa to pw, gia mia akomh fora, dioti profanws den ginetai safes: Oi probleceis poy isxyan ton Oktwbrio h ton Noembrio h ton Dekembrio h ton Ianoyario, den isxyoyn pia. Molis xqes, ayta poy eipe h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph apoklinoyn shmantika apo ayto poy elege prin apo ena mhna. H paroysiash h opoia egine - -kai ayto sas einai gnwsto- - stoys Ypoyrgoys poy meteixan xqes sto EKOFIN, htan mia eikona apaisiodojias.

H yfesh sthn Eyrwph einai poly xeiroterh apo ayth poy problepotan prin apo ena mhna. Einai laqos na menete - -qa moy epitrecete na pw- - kai eseis oi dhmosiografoi proskollhmenoi se lejeis. Oi lejeis den odhgoyn, en prokeimenw, poyqena. Prepei oloi mas - -milaw ek meroys ths kybernhshs kai bebaiws eimai politiko proswpo- - ennow eseis oi dhmosiografoi, oi ekproswpoi twn MME poy exete kai ayjhmeno rolo, ayjhmenh eyqynh panta, alla eidika ayth thn periodo, prepei kai oloi oi Ellhnes polites na katalaboyn oti einai eidikes oi synqhkes.

Egw den exw na prosqesw kati. Kai epeidh rwthqhka kai proxqes, ean yparxoyn nea metra, an yparxoyn neoi foroi, eipa oti den exw na kanw kanena sxolio gia qemata ta opoia den exoyn syzhthqei. Synepws, den exw na pw tipote diaforetiko apo ayto poy lew olo ayto to diasthma.

Prepei kaneis na einai synexeia apo panw, na parakoloyqei thn katastash diarkws, prokeimenoy me tis egkaires, koinwnika eyaisqhtes antidraseis toy kai na prolabainei ta xeirotera kai na prospaqei na qerapeysei synepeies, kaqe fora kainoyrgies gia th xwra mas, ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs.

SANTAMOYRHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, etsi opws diamorfwnetai to politiko topio, qa mporoyse na pei kapoios oti einai eylogo h kybernhsh apo to aithma ths synaineshs na diolisqhsei sto aithma ths synennohshs me ton ypoloipo politiko kosmo. To erwthma einai, an h synainesh h h synennohsh arkoyn gia thn antimetwpish twn problhmatwn ths oikonomias h qa arkesoyn an synexisoyme se mia tetoia diarkh metabolh twn dedomenwn.

ANTWNAROS: Pragmatika, den katalaba thn erwthsh sas. H kybernhsh, opws gnwrizete, dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, anelabe sygkekrimenh prwtoboylia na kalesei enan-enan toys arxhgoys twn koinoboyleytikwn kommatwn, prokeimenoy na toys paroysiasei me panomoiotypo tropo ta eji shmeia, tis eji basikes, oysiwdeis paradoxes, oi opoies kata th gnwmh mas prepei na apotelesoyn th bash mias eqnikhs synennohshs, mias eqnikhs synantilhchs, wste apo koinoy na proxwrhsoyme sthn antimetwpish twn synepeiwn ths krishs kai gia th xwra mas.

Ta apotelesmata ta gnwrizete. Den qelw na ta epanalabw. Emeis pisteyoyme oti yparxei panta periqwrio gia synennohsh, alla ayto, se kamia periptwsh, den shmainei oti h kybernhsh qa meinei adranhs. Den menei adranhs otan kapoioi epilegoyn allo dromo.

SANTAMOYRHS: To erwthma eixe ena deytero skelos, to opoio leei: Ean synexisoyme sthn idia logikh toy aprobleptoy, dhladh ths diarkoys epideinwshs twn synqhkwn poy epiballoyn ta oikonomika fainomena, qa arkesei gia thn Ellada h synainesh h h synennohsh twn politikwn dynamewn h qa xreiastei kati parapanw;

ANTWNAROS: H Ellada exei kybernhsh me aytodynamh, sympagh pleiochfia. Kai me ayth thn pleiochfia pragmatopoieitai to kybernhtiko ergo. Ayth h pleiochfia sthrizei to kybernhtiko ergo.

GKATSIOS: Epeidh mas lete synexeia gia ena sxedio poy epikairopoieitai synexws logw twn synqhkwn kai twn metaballomenwn synqhkwn sthn pagkosmia oikonomia, yparxei sxediasmos sthn kybernhsh na yparjoyn kai nees synanthseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy me toys politikoys arxhgoys, wste na enhmerwnontai gia ola ta nea metra poy qa lambanei h kybernhsh sto mellon;

ANTWNAROS: O Prwqypoyrgos oydepote arnhqhke na synanthsei opoiondhpote politiko arxhgo, o opoios zhthse na enhmerwqei apo ayton, apo thn koryfh dhladh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, ayqentika, sto ychlotero dynato epipedo, gia opoiodhpote qema askhshs ths ellhnikhs politikhs.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws skopeyei h kybernhsh na katabalei anadromika to epidoma twn 176 eyrw, meta thn apofash toy Areioy Pagoy, gia 350.000 ergazomenoys;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw to eidiko ayto qema kai den qa hqela na katafygw se ayqairetes topoqethseis. Parakalw, gi` ayto to qema na apeyqynqeite sta armodia Ypoyrgeia.

TSIOYFOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, parakoloyqw treis hmeres twra na lete oti h Nea Dhmokratia exei mia isxyrh koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia, h opoia sthrizei thn kybernhsh.

ANTWNAROS: Egw den xrhsimopoihsa ayth th lejh, ayto to epiqeto, kat` arxas.

TSIOYFOS: Poio apo ola;

ANTWNAROS: To ``isxyros''. Oxi oti to amfisbhtw. Alla...

TSIOYFOS: Sympagh.

ANTWNAROS: H pleiochfia ths Neas Dhmokratias einai isxyrh. Alla qa sas parakalesw na mhn moy apodidete lejeis, tis opoies den exw xrhsimopoihsei. Exei allh ennoia h lejh ``sympaghs''.

TSIOYFOS: Swsta. Th sygkekrimenh anafora thn kanete treis synexeis hmeres.

ANTWNAROS: Thn kanw polles ebdomades.

TSIOYFOS: Polles ebdomades. Den nomizw, omws, oti ayto einai to qema. Den amfisbhteitai ayth th stigmh apo kanenan, to an einai h den einai sympaghs h koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia ths kybernhshs. Exei teqei, exei mpei apo diafores pleyres ena allo zhthma kai panw ekei apantate eseis me ayto. Kai qa rwthsw eyqews, giati xqes jekaqarisate men oti den yparxei qema synergasias me to LAOS. Apo thn allh, omws, yparxoyn kentrika politika stelexh kai ypoyrgoi kai boyleytes, o grammateas ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas, poy apofeygoyn na topoqethsoyn pleon to sygkekrimeno komma sta akra. Qelw mia dikh sas eyqeia topoqethsh. To komma toy k. Karatzaferh, o LAOS, ejakoloyqei gia thn kybernhsh na qewreitai komma twn akrwn;

ANTWNAROS: Qa apanthsw synolika: H Nea Dhmokratia, h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias diaqetei mia isxyrh, sympagh, aytodynamh pleiochfia, h opoia sthrizei apolyta to kybernhtiko ergo. Apo ekei kai pera - -epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora, ayto to opoio sas eipa xqes- - oti apokleietai opoiadhpote kybernhtikh synergasia me xwroys apo toys opoioys mas xwrizoyn sobares politikes kai ideologikes diafores. Kai bazw teleia.

XIWTHS: Epeidh kai se ayto to qema poy anaferqhkate yparxoyn ejelijeis, qa exoyme eyrwekloges kai piqanon, paroti eseis to arneiste, prowres ekloges, mhpws skeptetai kai h kybernhsh kai ekei na probei se anagkaies prosarmoges;

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti qelete na peite. Gyrizete th syzhthsh se eklogologia, h opoia den exei kamia bash.

XIWTHS: Oxi, miso lepto. Mh pairnete fwtia.

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy. Egw xairomai dioti moy dinete thn eykairia na pw oti dystyxws kapoioi ginontai synexws agwgoi toy idioy anyparktoy klimatos eklogologias, to opoio den exei kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta.

XIWTHS: Entajei, twra. Epitrecte mas na parathrhsoyme kai emeis oti polla apo ta qemata poy dieceydan oi ekastote kybernhtikoi ekproswpoi kai ths dikhs sas kybernhshs, sto telos epibebaiwqhkan. Pros to paron, omws, epeidh den mporw na to antikroysw, to erwthma moy einai entelws diaforetiko. Apokleiete opoiadhpote kybernhtikh synergasia me to komma toy k. Karatzaferh, alla egw sas rwtaw...

ANTWNAROS: Egw anefera sygkekrimena pragmata.

XIWTHS: Ma to shmeiwsa: Exete mia sympagh pleiochfia kai apokleiete opoiadhpote kybernhtikh synergasia, epeidh exete shmantikes diafores. Otan lete kybernhtikh synergasia, ennoeite kai meta tis epomenes ekloges, opote kai aytes kai an ginoyn;

ANTWNAROS: Asfalws. Dioti epidiwjh mas einai h epiteyjh ths aytodynamias.

XIWTHS: An den to kataferete;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na parasyrqw se eklogologia.

SANTAMOYRHS: Lete oti me to LAOS, thn Nea Dhmokratia thn xwrizoyn sobares ideologikes diafores. An ypoqesoyme oti h Nea Dhmokratia kalyptei eyrews ton xwro ths kentrodejias, poy qa katatassate to LAOS;

ANTWNAROS: Den prokeitai na kanw kamia tetoia dhmosiografikh proseggish. Se osa eipa bazw teleia kai payla. H dhlwsh moy einai jekaqarh kai pera apo opoiadhpote amfisbhthsh. Opoioi qeloyn na synthroyn texnhta qemata, mporoyn na to kanoyn xwris th dikh mas symprajh.

XIWTHS: Qelw epishs mia dieykrinish oso afora to zhthma poy syzhthqhke shmera sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph gia thn anabaqmish, an katalaba kala, toy roloy ths Epitrophs Antagwnismoy. H kybernhsh diapistwnei oti ayth h Epitroph den leitoyrgoyse eparkws mexri twra epeidh den yphrxe eparkes nomiko plaisio;

ANTWNAROS: Panta prospaqei kapoios na petyxei to kalytero. Sth leitoyrgia qesmwn einai fysiko na diapistwneis orismenes ateleies, orismenes aneparkeies, orismenes anagkes gia beltiwsh, oi opoies emfanizontai. Akribws aytes oles qerapeyontai me stoxeymenes draseis. Alla gia ayta, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Anaptyjhs.

XIWTHS: Epeidh syzhthqhke kai to qema ayto twn etaireiwn, twn apokaloymenwn eispraktikwn, qewreite oti aytoy toy eidoys oi empeiries me thn drasthriothta toys katadynasteysan toys polites perissotero apo oti toys katadynasteysan alles megales etaireies, opws gia paradeigma oi trapezes poy epimenoyn na diathroyn ychla epitokia;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kanena sxolio me ton tropo poy eseis qetete to zhthma. Qa hqela omws na sas symboyleysw na diabasete thn xqesinh Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. Apo to prwto arqro toy oikonomikoy ths tmhmatos, qa diapistwsete oti kai sth Germania para thn ptwsh twn epitokiwn basews ths Kentrikhs Trapezas, ejakoloyqoyn kai menoyn -- dystyxws, opws kai edw -- poly ychla ta epitokia gia toys katanalwtes, ta noikokyria kai tis epixeirhseis kaqe megeqoys. Ti qelw na pw me ayto; To fainomeno den einai mono ellhniko. Kai gia ayto akribws emeis katabaloyme kaqe prospaqeia, wste na petyxoyme toys stoxoys pros thn kateyqynsh poy qeloyme: Sth meiwsh, thn peraiterw ptwsh twn epitokiwn.

Ean den to gnwrizete, qa hqela na sas enhmerwsw oti molis shmera, prin th synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias k. Papaqanasioy, prohdreyse gia prwth fora toy Symboylioy Epopteias, sto opoio einai melh oi ennea Epitropoi, oi opoioi dioristhkan apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh stis trapezes, prokeimenoy na epopteyoyn basei toy nomikoy plaisioy poy yparxei, diafora tetoia qemata. Eimaste apofasismenoi na proxwrhsoyme mexri teloys, me oses diorqwseis, me oses beltiwseis, me oses prosarmoges apaitoyntai.

SMYRNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, enas aristoyxos Albanos maqhths exei dikaiwma na shkwsei thn ellhnikh shmaia sthn parelash ths 25hs Martioy;

ANTWNAROS: Ayta ta qemata ta exoyme apanthsei ta perasmena xronia. Isxyoyn oi apanthseis poy exoyme dwsei. Den exei allajei kati.

SMYRNHS: Proekyce shmera, gia ayto sas to lew.

ANTWNAROS: O,ti kai na exei prokycei, h pagia qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs paramenei analloiwth.

SANTAMOYRHS: Maqainoyme oti o Amerikanos Proedros Ompama qa exei sthn Agkyra epafes gia ta qemata ths Megalhs Meshs Anatolhs kai epipleon oti qa hghqei mias diaskechs ths Epitrophs Qapatero  Erntogan, gia ton diapolitismiko kai to diaqrhskeiako dialogo prin apo thn episkech sto Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio. Apo olo ayto to paketo qa prepei na anamenoyme endexomenws kapoia anakoinwsh gia thn ypoqesh toy Patriarxeioy kai ta qemata qrhskeytikwn meionothtwn sthn Toyrkia;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw na kanw kamia peraiterw topoqethsh gia thn episkech toy Amerikanoy Proedroy sthn geitonikh xwra, pera apo ta osa hdh exw pei.

Sas eyxaristw.


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