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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-06-10

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 10 Ioynioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 207200977

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 10 Ioynioy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, xqes, milwntas sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, o Prwqypoyrgos jekaqarise oti den einai yper twn kommatikwn synergasiwn, metajy twn kommatwn. Apo thn allh pleyra, yparxoyn arketoi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias, arketa stelexh qa elega, poy blepoyn qetika ena tetoio endexomeno, eidika me to LA.O.S. Qelw na sas rwthsw, loipon, an h apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai oristikh kai telesidikh, prwton kai deyteron, an ejakoloyqei h Nea Dhmokratia na qewrei akraio ena komma, to opoio stis eyrwekloges katelabe to 7%.

ANTWNAROS: Isxyoyn sto akeraio osa exoyme pei. Isxyei, epishs, xwris kamia allagh, ayto poy eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos. Kai sas to epanalambanw gia na to empedwsete, ean den to exete empedwsei - -kai den to lew me kamia kakh diaqesh: Den xreiazomaste kai den einai nohtes, kommatikes synergasies.

KAKALHS: Pisteyete wstoso oti qa mporesete na sygkrathsete th diarroh twn chfoforwn pros to komma toy LA.O.S. me thn yioqethsh twn qesewn toy kommatos aytoy poy mexri prosfata apokaloysate ``akro'';

ANTWNAROS: Den antilambanomai ti ennoeite. O Prwqypoyrgos anaferqhke xqes stis pagies qeseis kai tis pagies proteraiothtes tis opoies exei h kybernhsh, h kybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias, h kybernhsh ths opoias hgeitai o Kwstas Karamanlhs. Aytes oi qeseis einai sygkekrimenes. Tis exoyme paroysiasei polles fores kai den allazoyn apo tipote peristasiako.

ZORMPA: Ep` aytoy kyrie Ekproswpe. Prin apo ligo, o k. Karatzaferhs, kata th diarkeia ths synenteyjhs Typoy poy paraxwrei (den akoygetai), aphyqyne epishmh prosklhsh sta stelexh ths Neas Dhmokratias, na syntaxqoyn mazi toy. Qa hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw, opws gnwrizete, ti lene arxhgoi allwn kommatwn. Egw ekeino to opoio gnwrizw, einai oti ta melh ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias antapokrinontai me synepeia sthn apostolh thn opoia exoyn analabei. Ayto einai jekaqaro.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti oi qeseis poy ejefrase xqes o k. Karamanlhs einai pagies kai den allazoyn apo tipote to peristasiako. Dhladh, blepoyme oti h kybernhsh strefetai se qemata asfaleias, opws gia paradeigma na efarmostei, akoysa xqes ton k. Karamanlh, emaqa oti eipe mesa sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, na efarmostei amesa, na proxwrhsei o nomos gia toys koykoyloforoys. Mhpws, ayto symbainei giati ayjhqhkan ta pososta toy LA.O.S.;

ANTWNAROS: Xairomai poy moy kanete ayth thn erwthsh, gia enan poly aplo logo: Ti eipe xqes o Prwqypoyrgos sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio; Oti sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies tis opoies exoyme analabei, tis opoies exoyme anakoinwsei, etsi opws eprepe na tis anakoinwsoyme, fqanoyn twra sto stadio ths ylopoihshs. Kai qa katateqoyn sto prosexes diasthma, sth Boylh, ta nomosxedia ekeina ta opoia perilambanoyn tis prwtoboylies, tis opoies hdh exoyme anakoinwsei.

H kybernhsh kanei panta ayto poy prepei. H asfaleia olwn twn politwn ths xwras, htan anekaqen - -kai ejakoloyqei fysika na einai- - kyria, koryfaia proteraiothta ths kybernhshs toy Kwsta Karamanlh.

Na sas ypenqymisw, fer` eipein, oti se syzhthsh pro hmerhsias diatajews sth Boylh poy egine gia to qema ths asfaleias, stis 8 Aprilioy 2009 - -prosfata dhladh- - anaferqhke o Prwqypoyrgos se ayta ta qemata. Kai eipe, metajy twn allwn, oti h kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na ejasfalisei to sebasmo ths zwhs, ths perioysias, ths ergasias gia oloys toys polites.

``H paroysia toy kratoys qa einai apofasistikh. Oi akraies symperifores prwta htthqhkan politika kai koinwnika kai sth synexeia, epixeirhsiaka. H boylhsh mas einai jekaqarh: Kamia anoxh se ejtremistikes draseis, kamia anoxh sto egklhma''.

XIWTHS: Qa hqela epishs, an exete thn kalosynh, na moy dieykrinisete allo ena shmeio ths omilias toy Prwqypoyrgoy, xqes, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, ayto sto opoio anefere oti einai apofasismenos na proxwrhsei se allages, opoy xreiastei kai gia periptwseis poy oi polites eite apodokimasan eite apogohteyqhkan. Ti akribws ennooyse o Prwqypoyrgos me aytes tis allages;

ANTWNAROS: Afenos exete megalh peira kai jerete na diabazete tis omilies toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai allwn politikwn proswpwn. Apo thn allh pleyra, eimai bebaios oti h omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h emperistatwmenh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy thn opoia xqes, malista, sas dwsame kai se plhrh apomagnhtofwnhsh (dioti o Prwqypoyrgos ekane o idios orismenes allages kata th diarkeia ths omilias) periexei ola ekeina ta stoixeia ta opoia eseis, ws empeiroi dhmosiografoi, xreiazeste, prokeimenoy na apokwdikopoihsete to logo toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

Allwste, qymaste oti emeis exoyme pei apo thn arxh: Panta kanoyme allages se oloys toys tomeis, opote xreiazetai. Kai qymaste oti exoyme anaferqei, fer` eipein, metajy twn allwn, kai ston tomea ths oikonomias. Se mia dieqnh oikonomia h opoia antimetwpizei mia krish poy brisketai se diarkh ejelijh. Kai otan legame oti prepei na ginontai allages, diorqwseis, prosarmoges, yphrxan kapoioi oi opoioi, isws - -kai den anaferw kanenan apo toys paristamenoys- - qewroysan oti ta pragmata qa prepei na htan pio ategkta, se mia eyqeia grammh, xwris na allazei tipote kai den mporoysan na to katalaboyn. Ma, to megalo proson, h megalh dynamh poy prepei na exei mia kybernhsh me ypeyqynothta, opws einai h shmerinh kybernhsh, einai oti akribws prepei na katalabainei ti symbainei ston kosmo, ti symbainei sth xwra, poies einai oi anagkes kai analogws na prosarmozei tis politikes ths. Kai ayto to kanoyme kai to kanoyme me synepeia.

TSIKRIKA: Dyo erwthseis. Kat` arxhn, k. Ekproswpe, ean yparxei qema, opws akoysthke shmera, allaghs toy grammatea ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas ths Neas Dhmokratias. Kai ena deytero, ean h kybernhsh gnwrize, eixe enhmerwqei gia th syggeneia, thn koymparia ths k. Giannakoy me thn oikogeneia Karabela.

ANTWNAROS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs, prwth fora apo esas to akoyw kai moy prokalei ekplhjh. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, exei topoqethqei me apolyth safhneia kai poly jekaqaro tropo h idia h k. Giannakoy. Sas parakalw poly. Prospaqoyn kapoioi na dhmioyrghsoyn qemata ekei poy den yparxoyn.

XIWTHS: Xqes, epishs, meta th synedriash toy EKOFIN, o Ypoyrgos Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn k. Papaqanasioy anakoinwse thn proqesh toy na probei sth lhch kapoiwn metrwn xwris na ta katonomasei, se mia nea prospaqeia ths kybernhshs na diasfalistoyn prosqeta esoda. Apo tis plhrofories poy katagrafoyn shmera oi efhmerides, antilambanomai oti ayta ta metra qa einai forologika, para th desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy oti an den allajoyn ta dedomena den qa yparjoyn neoi foroi. Ta dedomena, ej oswn gnwrizw tis teleytaies 15 hmeres, den exoyn allajei. Ara, ti exei allajei kai proxwrate sthn epibolh newn forwn, efoson isxyei ayth h proqesh oti qa proxwrhsete se epibolh newn forwn;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na sas pw oti paroysiazete ligo yperaploysteymena mia sxedon triselidh dhlwsh thn opoia ekane, xqes, o k. Papaqanasioy, meta th synedriash.

O k. Papaqanasioy, metajy twn allwn, afoy anaferqhke sthn katastash se oloklhrh thn Eyrwph kai tis antallages apocewn poy eginan, eipe epi lejei: ``Oson afora th xwra mas, ayto poy eipa sth xqesinh syzhthsh sto Eurogroup, den einai tipota diaforetiko apo ayto poy exw pei polles fores dhmosiws kai sthn Ellada. Kai nomizw oti ayto apanta hdh to qema, oti dhladh fetos ton Ioynio, tis epomenes ebdomades, qa kanoyme mia apotimhsh ths katastashs. Afenos, men, ths poreias ekteleshs toy Proypologismoy kai afeteroy ths epidrashs poy eixan ta diafora metra poy exoyme hdh labei ston tomea ths anaptyjhs, ton tomea twn esodwn kai genika sthn poreia ekteleshs toy Proypologismoy.

Profanws, h anaptyjh qa einai mikroterh apo ayth poy eixame problecei arxika. Perimenoyme na doyme poso ephreazetai apo ta metra tonwshs ths pragmatikhs oikonomias poy phrame to teleytaio diasthma.

Epanelaba sto Eurogroup oti einai apofash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs na thrhsei tis desmeyseis ths kai toys stoxoys poy exei qesei. Dhladh, na epityxoyme to stoxo gia elleimma 3,7% toy AEP fetos kai gia elleimma katw apo to 3% to 2010''.

Qa hqela, me ayth thn eykairia, na epanalabw mia dhlwsh thn opoia ekana xqes to apogeyma, anaferomenos se sxetikes topoqethseis toy ekproswpoy toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, o opoios, metajy twn allwn, eipe oti h Ellada oyte prepei, oyte mporei na efarmosei ayth th symbatikh ypoxrewsh poy exei kai ekeinh, opws oles oi xwres ths eyrwzwnhs, mesa sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

Ola ayta ta briskw perierga. Kai briskw idiaitera periergo, ajioperiergo, to gegonos oti to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs dia toy ekproswpoy toy, o opoios malista odeyei pros thn Eyrwph ws epikefalhs toy eyrwchfodeltioy toy PASOK, epimenei kai meta tis eyrwekloges na paraplhroforei toys Ellhnes polites ws ean yphrxe mia dynatothta katarghshs h - -epeidh o k. Papakwnstantinoy enoxlhqhke xqes apo th lejh ``katarghsh'', me thn opoia egw ermhneysa th qesh toy- - parakamchs toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas.

Agnooyn h qeloyn na agnooyn, toylaxiston milwntas pros toys Ellhnes polites - -dioti otan miloyn pros toys ejw lene alla- - oti to Symfwno Staqerothtas hdh me th xalarh morfh poy exoyn dexqei oloi kai me thn eyelijia poy oloi exoyn apodexqei mexri enos orismenoy shmeioy, ftanei sta oria toy. Kai einai desmeytiko gia oloys, gia oles tis xwres, apo tis opoies polles exoyn poly megalyteres apokliseis apo emas.

Kai ayth th stigmh, eite qelei to PASOK na to katalabei, eite den to qelei, den ginetai kamia syzhthsh gia kati diaforetiko, gia parakamch h katarghsh toy Symfwnoy Staqerothtas sthn Eyrwph. Kai den ginetai syzhthsh oyte mesa stoys kolpoys toy Eyrwpaikoy Sosialistikoy Kommatos sto opoio anhkei to PASOK.

Prepei, loipon, twra kai to PASOK na pei thn alhqeia stoys Ellhnes polites. Kai na mhn epixeirei, gia mia akomh fora, gia kapoia mikrokommatika ofelh ta opoia profanws prosdoka, na paraplanhsei toys Ellhnes polites.

XIWTHS: Sas akoysa me prosoxh, alla epitrecte moy na pw oti me thn apanthsh sas aplws epibebaiwsate thn erwthsh, alla den moy dwsate apanthsh. Kratw ola osa eipate, alla apo ayta poy eipate epibebaiwnetai oti h kybernhsh qa thrhsei tis desmeyseis ths. Gia na tis thrhsei, prepei na ejoikonomhsei prosqeta esoda toylaxiston 3 dis eyrw. Sas erwtw, loipon, me poio tropo qa ta ejoikonomhsei;

ANTWNAROS: Sas exw apanthsei hdh polles fores se ayth thn aiqoysa. Exei apanthsei kai o k. Papaqanasioy. To eipe kai xqes o Prwqypoyrgos. Emeis exoyme dromologhsei, otan eprepe, ena megalo programma perikophs twn dapanwn sto dhmosio Tomea me sygkekrimenes prwtoboylies. Oi prwtoboylies aytes arxizoyn na apodidoyn. Kaname th sygxwneysh h thn katarghsh diakosiwn penhnta pente apo ejakosioys eikosi foreis toy Dhmosioy prajh kai proxwroyme kai sth deyterh fash.

Qa kanoyme o,ti einai aparaithto, prokeimenoy oi 'Ellhnes polites me antikoinwnikh symperifora, dhladh ekeinoi poy forodiafeygoyn, na klhqoyn na plhrwsoyn ekeino poy toys analogei. Kati poy kanei h megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kai otan kanoyme ayto ton elegxo, ayto eipe o k. Papaqanasioy, qa krinoyme an kai efoson einai anagkaies alles prwtoboylies. Emeis den krycame pote kati apo ton ellhniko lao. Den to krycame bebaiws proeklogika kai den to kryboyme oyte kai twra meta tis eyrwekloges poy sas ypenqymizw gia mia akomh fora - - kai to lew xwris na allajw kaqoloy th frash poy eipa - - oti den einai eklogikh diadikasia apo thn opoia prokyptei kybernhsh.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oi polites ektos apo politikes me thn chfo toys apodokimazoyn kai proswpa. Qelw, loipon, na rwthsw an o Prwqypoyrgos einai eyxaristhmenos apo toys Ypoyrgoys toy h an skeftetai na proxwrhsei se kapoio anasxhmatismo.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth bebaiws einai mia dikh sas ermhneia, me thn opoia egw den exw kamia ypoxrewsh na symporeyqw. Ws pros to ti kanoyn oi polites: Nomizw oti oi polites me th symperifora toys eipan sygkekrimena pragmata kai emeis eixame kai thn eyqythta kai to qarros apo thn prwth stigmh na topoqethqoyme me apolyth eilikrineia sto apotelesma, sto dysaresto gia mas apotelesma twn eklogwn ths Kyriakhs.

Ola ta alla ta opoia anaferate, einai bebaiws senaria ta opoia den prokeitai na sxoliasw.

KAKALHS: Milhsate prohgoymenws gia th synepeia poy yphretei h kybernhsh stis allages kai stis metarryqmiseis. Pragmati proeklogika h kybernhsh eixe zhthsei apo ton ellhniko lao na sthrijei to diko ths sxedio ejodoy apo thn krish. Giati mono ayto mporei na odhghsei me sigoyria kai me tis ligoteres apwleies, opws legate xqes sto lao. Omws, o laos den to epidokimase. Antiqeta mazika gyrise thn plath. Ena ekat. tetrakosies xiliades peripoy chfoforoi gyrisan thn plath. Ayto, otan h kybernhsh epimenei na leei oti qa synexisoyme, parola ayta kontra sto mhnyma poy toys esteile o ellhnikos laos, den synista mia banaysh perifronhsh ths laikhs etymhgorias;

ANTWNAROS: H shmerinh kybernhsh, opws kalws gnwrizete asfalws, einai ekeinh h opoia sebetai kaqe ekfrash ths boylhshs twn Ellhnwn politwn. Apo thn allh meria omws, qa hqela na sas ypenqymisw gia mia akomh fora, oti h sygkekrimenh eklogikh diadikasia den eixe stoxo na ypodeijei poios qa kybernhsei th xwra apo ayrio.

KAKALHS: (Den akoygetai)

ANTWNAROS: Eipa kai ejakoloyqw na lew, allwste o Prwqypoyrgos ekane emperistatwmenh analysh kai kala qa kanete na th diabasete gia mia akomh fora...

KAKALHS: Nai, alla poly rhxh.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ektimhsh. Astoxo qa htan ek meroys moy na prospaqhsw na peisw, esas eidika, gia to antiqeto.

KAKALHS: Mporei na pei ston ellhniko lao oti einai qema symperiforwn kai oxi politikhs; Oti apodokimasthkan symperifores kai oxi politikes;

ANTWNAROS: Qa moy epitrecete na exw diaforetikh apoch apo esas. Egw, en pash periptwsei, den xrhsimopoiw meiwtikes ekfraseis gia esas. Qa sas elega, loipon, oti h politikh mas einai staqerh, kineitai mesa se sygkekrimena plaisia. Kai emeis pisteyoyme oti twra, perissotero apo opotedhpote allote, prepei na epitaxynqei o ryqmos twn metarryqmisewn kai twn allagwn. Ayto einai poy xreiazetai h xwra. Kai ayto to kaqhkon mas, to eqniko kaqhkon mas, emeis qa to kanoyme.

XIWTHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, parathrw oti exete ena diaforetiko styl se sxesh me thn proeklogikh periodo. Eiste poly pio metriopaqhs...

ANTWNAROS: Kaqoloy.

XIWTHS: ... kai qelw na rwthsw an allazei h eikona ths kybernhshs h an eiste agrypnos apo ton kayga poy jespase sthn polykatoikia toy k. Karatzaferh.

ANTWNAROS: Frontizw na ekmetalleyomai tis wres poy antistoixoyn se kaqe kommati toy 24wroy moy, me ton kalytero dynato tropo.

Sas eyxaristw.


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