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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-06-29

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 29 Ioynioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 210211964

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 29 Ioynioy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Shmera, Deytera 29 Ioynioy, stis treis to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs qa apeyqynei xairetismo se dihmerida ergasias ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy Eyrwpaikoy Laikoy Kommatos, poy pragmatopoieitai sth Boyliagmenh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XRHSTAKOS: Parakoloyqwntas tis ejelijeis sthn ypoqesh Xristoforakoy, plhroforoymaste, apo tis phges ekei sth Germania poy exei syllhfqei, oti yparxoyn kapoia cd me stoixeia poy exei kataqesei o k. Xristoforakos kai ta opoia ypotiqetai oti mporei na kaine kapoioys, kapoion. To sxolio ths kybernhshs poio einai gi` ayth thn ejelijh;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kanena sxolio gia qemata poy briskontai ypo dikastikh diereynhsh. Epanalambanw ayto poy exw pei kai einai h pagia qesh ths kybernhshs mas: Opws se oles tis ypoqeseis etsi kai se ayth thn ypoqesh, mas endiaferei na pesei apleto fws, na diereynhqei mexri baqoys.

SWTHRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, shmera stis 19.00, o k. Alogoskoyfhs qa paroysiasei to biblio toy ``H Ellada meta thn krish''. Apo ta apospasmata poy exoyn prodhmosieytei fainetai oti askei drimeia kritikh kai sto proswpo toy Prwqypoyrgoy, alla genikotera kai sthn oikonomikh politikh ths kybernhshs. Ena sxolio.

ANTWNAROS: Den sxoliazw qeseis h apoceis boyleytwn kai poly perissotero paroysiaseis h periexomena bibliwn.

KAKALHS: Mporeite na mas peite giati den doqhkan sth dhmosiothta oi symfwnies poy ypegrace h Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn k. Mpakogiannh me ton Anaplhrwth Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn twn Hnwmenwn Politeiwn; Mhpws, giati opws legetai, se aytes problepetai oti oi amerikanikes arxes qa exoyn prosbash sta arxeia twn ellhnikwn diwktikwn Arxwn, aney orwn malista; Gia poio logo, telos pantwn, den to dwsate sth dhmosiothta;

ANTWNAROS: H synergasia ths xwras mas me alles xwres gia thn katapolemhsh ths tromokratias, thn katapolemhsh toy egklhmatos, thn katapolemhsh kai thn antimetwpish organwmenwn paranomwn prajewn, einai oysiastikh. Se ayto to plaisio kinoymeqa. Se ayto to plaisio qa ejakoloyqoyme na kinoymeqa, giati h dieqnhs synergasia einai ekeinh h opoia apotelei to kalytero exeggyo gia thn antimetwpish tetoiwn prajewn poy, opws gnwrizete, einai mia diarkhs apeilh gia oloklhro ton kosmo.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla sto onoma ayths ths synergasias qa ekxwrhsete kaqe ixnos eqnikhs anejarthsias kai kyriarxias kai qa katapathsete banaysa ola ta atomika kai anqrwpina dikaiwmata;

ANTWNAROS: Ayth einai dikh sas ektimhsh, thn opoia den symmerizomai. Einai gnwsto oti h shmerinh kybernhsh perifroyrei me oloys ekeinoys toys tropoys oi opoioi einai endedeigmenoi kai to eqniko symferon kai kyriws ola ta dikaiwmata twn Ellhnwn politwn.

KAKALHS: Giati den dwsate sth dhmosiothta tote tis symfwnies aytes;

ANTWNAROS: Gia perissoteres plhrofories, parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn.

TSIKRIKA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qa mporoysate na mas peite liges leptomereies, an gnwrizete kati parapanw, gia th qesh ths Toyrkias apenanti sto qema ths laqrometanasteyshs poy eqese xqes h k. Mpakogiannh; Oi plhrofories anaferoyn oti o Toyrkos omologos ths arnhqhke na efarmosei h Toyrkia to prwtokollo epanapatrismoy twn laqrometanastwn.

ANTWNAROS: Emeis den qa stamathsoyme se kanena xroniko shmeio na epimenoyme kai na apaitoyme apo th geitonikh mas xwra, thn Toyrkia, na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis tis opoies exei analabei, me thn ypografh toy sxetikoy prwtokolloy gia thn epaneisdoxh twn mh nomimwn metanastwn.

Gnwrizete th qesh mas. Einai mia qesh jekaqarh. Einai mia qesh thn opoia yposthrizoyme, oxi mono, opws einai fysiko na to kanoyme, sto eswteriko ths xwras, alla kai sto eyrwpaiko periballon toy opoioy apoteloyme meros: Eimaste kratos-melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, kai gnwrizete oti poly prosfata, prin apo peripoy deka hmeres, h qesh mas ayth egine dekth kai apo ta 27 krath-melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

Pisteyoyme, dhladh - -kai ayth einai pia qesh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs- - oti oi symfwnies oi opoies exoyn ypografei se dimeres epipedo, prepei na efarmostoyn kai na efarmozontai plhrws mexris otoy ginei dynath h ypografh symfwniwn metajy ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai twn xwrwn poy einai eite xwres proeleyshs, eite xwres dieleyshs paranomwn metanastwn. Prepei, loipon, eidika oi xwres oi opoies apoblepoyn sto na ginoyn plhrh melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs na antilhfqoyn oti h thrhsh symfwniwn, tis opoies exoyn ypogracei me xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, einai aparaithth proypoqesh prokeimenoy aytos o eyrwpaikos toys prosanatolismos na ginei prajh.

ZORMPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o k. Mparo brisketai se epishmh episkech sth xwra mas, hdh ayth th stigmh, h opoia oloklhrwnetai ayrio. Ej oswn prokyptei apo to programma toy, qa episkefqei kai kentra ypodoxhs laqrometanastwn ths xwras mas. Ti prosdoka h kybernhsh apo thn kinhsh ayth;

ANTWNAROS: Pragmati, o k. Mparo, ej oswn gnwrizw apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw apo ton armodio Ypoyrgo k. Prokoph Paylopoylo, brisketai apo shmera to prwi kaq` odon - -synodeyomenos apo ton k. Paylopoylo kai alloys paragontes ths ellhnikhs pleyras- - se ena syntomo tajidi, kata mhkos ths ellhnikhs synoriogrammhs - -den einai akribhs o oros, alla ennow sthn Anatolikh Ellada- - prokeimenoy na episkefqei diafora tetoia kentra ypodoxhs laqrometanastwn.

Zhtame - -kai hdh exoyme kanei shmantikh proodo- - toso se epipedo ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, ths opoias antiproedros einai o k. Mparo, armodios gia to sygkekrimeno qema, oso kai apo toys etairoys mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, thn koinh organwsh ths prospaqeias gia thn antimetwpish aytoy toy kymatos laqrometanasteyshs poy einai idiaitera megalo gia thn Ellada.

Einai megalo gia thn Ellada, dioti h xwra mas brisketai konta stis xwres proeleyshs toy megalyteroy ariqmoy twn mh nomimwn metanastwn. Allwste, gnwrizete oti molis to Sabbato to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs eixe mia dimerh syzhthsh kai gi` ayto to qema - -kyriws gi` ayto to qema- - me ton Italo Prwqypoyrgo k. Silbio Mperloyskoni. Oi dyo xwres exoyn koinh proseggish sto qema. Kai oi dyo einai xwres eisodoy megaloy ariqmoy laqraiwn metanastwn poy proerxontai eite apo thn afrikanikh hpeiro, eite apo thn asiatikh hpeiro. Kai etsi, meqodeyoyme bhma-bhma thn koinh mas proseggish.

Se ayto to plaisio, loipon, qewroyme oti einai poly xrhsimh h edw paroysia kai h epi topoy enhmerwsh toy Epitropoy k. Mparo, wste na mporei kai ekeinos apo thn pleyra toy, exontas plhrofories apo prwto xeri, na metaferei aytes tis plhrofories kai ayth th gnwsh, thn opoia apokta episkeptomenos ta kentra, stoys synadelfoys toy stis Bryjelles. Giati gi` emas, gia th xwra mas, h laqrometanasteysh einai ena poly shmantiko qema.

KAKALHS: Me dedomenh thn kathgorhmatikh arnhsh ths Toyrkias na symfwnhsei, na ylopoihsei th symfwnia epanaproseggishs, opws fainetai kai apo tis synenteyjeis toy epikefalhs twn entajiakwn diapragmateysewn k. Mpagis, poy dhlwse oti den qa ginoyme o megalyteros kataylismos prosfygwn toy kosmoy, poies einai oi epomenes kinhseis ths kybernhshs, poies einai oi dynatothtes kai oi epomenes kinhseis poy mporei na kanei se ayth thn kateyqynsh;

ANTWNAROS: Molis sas tis eipa.

KAKALHS: Den eipate tipote sygkekrimeno omws.

ANTWNAROS: Molis sas tis eipa. H Toyrkia exei analabei me thn ypografh ayths ths symfwnias, oxi mono ypoxrewsh enanti ths Ellados, alla sthn oysia kai enanti ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ths opoias plhres melos apotelei h Ellada.

KAKALHS: Dimereis htan oi symfwnies.

ANTWNAROS: Molis pro oligoy aneptyja tis skeceis kai tis qeseis tis opoies exoyme. Akribws aytes tis symfwnies poy exoyn ypogracei xwres ektos Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs me krath - melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, zhta me jekaqaro tropo na efarmostoyn h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Ayto perilambanetai, opws gnwrizete, sta Symperasmata ths Synodoy Koryfhs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy pragmatopoihqhke prin apo deka meres. Ejalloy, gia thn Toyrkia h katastash exei epipleon eidika xarakthristika. H Toyrkia qelei na ginei melos ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Otan ypografei, loipon, symfwnies me kapoia xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs prepei na antilambanetai oti exei ypoxrewsh na efarmozei aytes tis symfwnies, prokeimenoy h idia, pros idion ofelos, na epitaxynei kai na kanei prajh ton eyrwpaiko ths prosanatolismo. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh emeis qa epimeinoyme.

ZORMPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, me dedomenh thn ypografh ths symfwnias metajy ths k. Mpakogiannh kai toy k. Stainmpergk gia thn katarghsh ths bizas gia toys Ellhnes polites, hqela na rwthsw: H kybernhsh ektima oti h periodos ths nemeshs poy epebale h amerikanikh pleyra meta to (den akoygetai) sto Boykoyresti, elhje molis xqes kai ti shmatodotei ayth h ypografh gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

ANTWNAROS: Den blepw kati tetoio. Gnwrizete oti oi symfwnies metajy dyo xwrwn proypoqetoyn ena makry, polles fores, diasthma epikoinwniwn, antallaghs apocewn, synomiliwn kai diapragmateysewn. Otan ftasoyme me to kalo sto telos kaqe diapragmateyshs, tote ayto eyodwnetai me thn ypografh ths symfwnias. Den qa prepei kapoios na apodidei kapoia alla kinhtra sto xrono poy xreiazetai, wste na oloklhrwqoyn oi diapragmateyseis kai na ypografei kapoia symfwnia.

KAKALHS: Qa afhsei na sernetai h kybernhsh to klima eklogologias mexri ton Martio h qa proxwrhsei se prowres ekloges nwritera opws fainetai na eishgoyntai kai kapoia stelexh ston Prwqypoyrgo;

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw an eishgoyntai se esas.

KAKALHS: Se mena tipote proswpika.

ANTWNAROS: To lew, dhladh, giati den gnwrizw apo poy exete tetoies eishghseis. Gia ola ayta ta qemata, exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos.

KAKALHS: (den akoygetai)... diabazw oti feretai.

ANTWNAROS: Gia ola ayta ta qemata exei topoqethqei me apolyth kaqarothta o Prwqypoyrgos sth synenteyjh poy paraxwrhse prin apo deka hmeres stis Bryjelles. Emas, ekeino poy mas endiaferei einai ena kai monadiko pragma: Na eimaste epikentrwmenoi - - opws eimaste - - sto ergo mas. Na kanoyme prajh tis desmeyseis, tis opoies exoyme analabei enanti twn Ellhnwn politwn. Na proxwroyme me oloena kai pio grhgoro ryqmo stis anagkaies gia ton topo metarryqmiseis.

KAKALHS: Tote, qa amfisbhthsw to ``apolyth kaqarothta'' poy eipate gia ton Prwqypoyrgo, giati o Prwqypoyrgos eipe apla oti den exei thn proqesh na paei se prowres ekloges. Alla ayto den shmainei oti den qa paei.

ANTWNAROS: Den gnwrizw ti diabazete eseis. Gia mena einai apolyta jekaqaro ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos.

TSIKRIKA: Ayth h ebdomada einai ebdomada anasxhmatismoy k. Ekproswpe;

ANTWNAROS: Kai se ayto to qema exei topoqethqei o Prwqypoyrgos. Qa sas elega na apofeygete na ektiqeste me tetoies prognwseis, oi opoies den epibebaiwnontai apo ta pragmata.

ZORMPA: Epibebaiwnete tis plhrofories poy qeloyn ton Prwqypoyrgo na sygkalei Ypoyrgiko Symboylio ayth thn ebdomada;

ANTWNAROS: Den exw kati pros anakoinwsh.

Sas eyxaristw.


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