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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-07-29

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 29 Ioylioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 215898237

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 29 Ioylioy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Xairete.

" Oloklhrwqhke, prin apo ligo, sto Megaro Majimoy, ypo thn Proedria toy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Kwsta Karamanlh, h synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs. Sth synedriash, o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos kai o Yfypoyrgos k. Qanashs Nakos paroysiasan to programma ``Qhseas II'' toy Ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn poy afora sthn oikonomikh epixorhghsh twn Organismwn Topikhs Aytodioikhshs gia thn periodo 2010-2014.

Sto qema anaferqhke o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Prokophs Paylopoylos, opws sas einai gnwsto, ejerxomenos toy Megaroy Majimoy, analyontas th megalh shmasia poy exei gia th leitoyrgia, th xrhmatodothsh, alla kai ton tropo organwshs twn ependysewn poy kanoyn oi Organismoi Topikhs Aytodioikhshs, ayto to sygkekrimeno sxedio.

Opws gnwrizete, oloklhrwnetai to ``Qhseas I'' kai etsi organwnoyme me ton idio tropo, me beltiwseis kai prosarmoges sta nea dedomena, to ``Qhseas II''.

" Se ena allo qema: H kybernhsh, exontas ws basiko stoxo sthn energeiakh ths politikh thn ejoikonomhsh energeias, paroysiase ena synoliko programma kinhtrwn gia thn energeiakh anabaqmish twn katoikiwn.

To programma ayto, opws tonise o Ypoyrgos Anaptyjhs k. Xatzhdakhs, se antiqesh me orismenoys isxyrismoys poy den antapokrinontai sthn pragmatikothta, den eystaqoyn, afora se oloys toys Ellhnes polites.

Exei, de, dyo skelh: To prwto skelos anaferetai se kinhtra mesw toy ESPA. Kai to lew ayto, giati h Ellada einai h prwth xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy efarmozei tetoioy eidoys kinhtra se efarmogh sxetikoy kanonismoy, o opoios yparxei. Sto skelos ayto, logw kai twn problecewn toy sxetikoy koinwnikoy kanonismoy, opws sas eipa, exei teqei ena koinwniko krithrio, dhladh ta 1.500 eyrw ana tetragwniko metro ws timh zwnhs. Afora, dhladh to syntriptika megalo kommati olhs ths ellhnikhs epikrateias. Qa diateqoyn, de, gi` ayto to skelos toy programmatos 400 ekat. eyrw, enw h synolikh kinhtopoihsh porwn anamenetai na fqasei sto 1 dis eyrw. Apo ayto to skelos, anamenetai na wfelhqoyn 100.000 noikokyria h 400.000 polites synolika. Ayta, de, ta kinhtra anaferontai se katoikies, eite monokatoikies, eite polykatoikies, eite kthria ta opoia kata pleiochfia xrhsimopoioyntai ws katoikies, ta opoia exoyn ktistei prin apo to etos 1980. Opws moy ejhghse o Ypoyrgos k. Xatzhdakhs, ayto to xroniko orio teqhke giati apo to 1980 kai meta isxyoyn oi kanonismoi sxetika me th qermomonwsh twn kthriwn.

To deytero skelos, afora se forologika kinhtra, ta opoia qa einai isodynamoy apotelesmatos kai qa ejeidikeytoyn apo to armodio Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn prin apo thn enarjh toy programmatos.

Me bash toys stoxoys poy exoyn teqei, anamenetai oti h energeiakh ejoikonomhsh mporei na aggijei, se orismenes periptwseis, kai to 70%. Kai to lew ayto, giati ena megalo pososto ths katanaliskomenhs energeias ston topo mas paei stis katoikies. H synolikh diarkeia toy programmatos exei problefqei na einai dyo xronia kai, opws eipe kai o k. Xatzhdakhs, ean yparjei anagkh, ean yparjei zhthsh, ean yparjei antapokrish kai akomh megalytero endiaferon, mia paratash einai kati poy mporei na syzhthqei.

Me ayto to kainotomo gia ta ellhnika dedomena programma, h Politeia symballei taytoxrona sthn prostasia toy periballontos, sthn ejoikonomhsh shmantikoy posostoy energeias kai sthn enisxysh toy kataskeyastikoy kladoy poy gnwrizete oti einai enas apo toys kladoys poy plhttetai idiaitera apo tis synepeies ths dieqnoys oikonomikhs krishs.

Telos, den qa prepei na parablecei kapoios kai thn poiotikh, thn aisqhtikh anabaqmish poy qa exoyn ta kthria meta apo thn efarmogh aytwn twn kinhtrwn. Ola ayta, de, qa ginoyn xwris kamia apolytws epibarynsh toy Proypologismoy kai oson afora to prwto skelos - -sas eipa einai poroi toy ESPA- - alla kai to deytero, giati qa odhghsei se drasthriothtes poy den qa ginontan an den yphrxan ayta ta kinhtra.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PARTALIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, tis teleytaies hmeres proekyce ena qema. Kai qa sas rwthsw, pws ermhneyetai h ti krybetai pisw apo to qorybo poy dhmioyrghqhke kai tis antiparaqeseis gia thn perikoph twn 12 deyteroleptwn sto film toy Kwsta Gabra gia to Neo Moyseio ths Akropolhs;

ANTWNAROS: Gia to qema ayto, exei topoqethqei, me dhmosia dhlwsh toy, o Proedros toy Moyseioy ths Akropolhs, o koryfaios kaqhghths k. Dhmhtrhs Pantermalhs. Exei dwsei olo to istoriko. Exei anaferqei stis dikes toy energeies. Kai qa hqela egw, xwris na qelw na meiwsw kaqoloy th symbolh kaqe dhmioyrgoy se ena film, aplws na diorqwsw ayto to opoio eipate kai einai mia entypwsh, h opoia den antapokrinetai sthn pragmatikothta: To film ayto, opws leei allwste sth dhlwsh toy kai o k. Pantermalhs, kalyptei oles tis peripeteies toy Mnhmeioy, apo thn arxaiothta ews ta neotera xronia. Einai synolikhs diarkeias dekatriwn leptwn. Stoxo exei na enhmerwnontai oi episkeptes toy Moyseioy ths Akropolhs. Se ayto to film paroysiazontai h arxitektonikh kai o glyptos diakosmos toy Parqenwna.

Mesa se ayto to film twn dekatriwn leptwn yparxei ena apospasma apo ena ntokimanter toy k. Gabra, toy poly gnwstoy kai anagnwrismenoy dieqnws skhnoqeth, synolikhs diarkeias enos leptoy kai saranta deyteroleptwn. Kai ejhgei o k. Pantermalhs gia poio logo ekrine o idios oti eprepe na ekpesei, opws leei, ena plano dwdeka deyteroleptwn apo ayto to ena lepto kai saranta deyterolepta. Qa elega oti apodidete megalyterh shmasia apo ayth poy pragmatika exei ayto to sygkekrimeno gegonos. Einai gnwsto oti sth xwra mas apeikonizontai oles oi ptyxes ths Istorias me pisth sta pragmatika gegonota.

KAKALHS: Epeidh h kybernhsh aresketai na emfanizetai se rolo timhth kai qematofylaka twn qesmwn kai toy Syntagmatos, qa parei pisw thn tropologia gia th leitoyrgia twn kamerwn, afoy h Arxh Prostasias Proswpikwn Dedomenwn th xarakthrise oti einai antiqeth me to Syntagma;

ANTWNAROS: Topoqethqhke, shmera, ep` aytoy o k. Dendias. Eyxaristws na sas diabasw th dhlwsh poy ekane dhmosia. Leei o k. Dendias: Kat` arxhn, h eyrwpaikh odhgia 46 toy 1995 sta qemata dhmosias asfaleias den proypoqetei apoch ths Arxhs. Para tayta, emeis, to Ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs dhladh, stis 24 Ioynioy zhthse thn apoch ths Arxhs, deixnontas mia megalh dhmokratikh eyaisqhsia kai eginan ola ta bhmata poy eprepe na ginoyn. Ejefrase thn apoch ths h Arxh, h gnwmh ths opoias sas lew oyte aparaithth einai, oyte desmeytikh. Ayto den allazei to gegonos oti h diatajh ayth exei chfistei apo th Boylh twn Ellhnwn. Einai mia diatajh poy to Ypoyrgeio Dhmosias Tajhs kai h kybernhsh qewroyn oti einai aparaithth gia thn ejasfalish toy megaloy agaqoy ths dhmosias asfaleias. To atomiko einai sebasto. Alla, den prepei na jexna kaneis oti to syllogiko einai epishs sebasto. H syllogikh asfaleia einai to megisto agaqo.

KAKALHS: Dhladh, h kybernhsh sto onoma toy oti den einai desmeytikh h Arxh oyte kan thn epidiwje th gnwmh ths Arxhs. Den perimenate kan...

ANTWNAROS: Profanws, den egine antilhpto ayto to opoio eipa...

KAKALHS: Thn katalaba egw...

ANTWNAROS: Den diabasa olh th dhlwsh, gia na mh xronotribhsw kai parw apo to xrono sas. H dhlwsh olh leei, metajy twn allwn, oti enhmerwqhke o k. Dendias apo ton epikefalhs ths Arxhs oti den eprokeito na toy apanthsei prin apo to Septembrio. Den mporei, loipon, h kybernhsh na perimenei kapoia Arxh na kanei diakopes. Kai meta, otan h Arxh eide thn piesh ths koinhs gnwmhs poy yphrxe, apefasise gia dikoys ths logoys na ekferei thn apoch ths. Kai epanalambanw: H koinotikh odhgia leei oti gia qemata dhmosias asfaleias den einai proypoqesh h apoch ths Arxhs kai to deytero, oti bebaiws h apoch ths Arxhs den einai desmeytikh.

ARMENHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, diabazw ston Typo oti exoyme ektinajh toy dhmosioy elleimmatos, enw taytoxrona akoyw apo to PASOK kataggelies oti ayjhqhkan oi proslhceis fetos sto Dhmosio. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Qa apanthsw prwta sto deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, dioti apo to PASOK, merikes fores to xrono, synhqizoyn na dhmosieyoyn ariqmoys, oi opoioi eite den exoyn sxesh me thn pragmatikothta - -mia xronia, an qymamai kala, perysi an den kanw laqos, isxyristhkan oti proselhfqhsan se mia xronia, se ena oikonomiko etos, tosoi peripoy dhmosioi ypallhloi epipleon osoi synolika apasxoloyntai sto Dhmosio. Opws katalabainete ayta ta pragmata einai ejwpragmatika.

To deytero einai oti xrhsimopoioyn diaforoys ariqmoys gia na paraplanhsoyn thn koinh gnwmh. Mesa stoys ariqmoys oi opoioi anaferqhkan xqes, xwris na shmainei oti toys apodexomai, peripoy oi misoi apo toys anaferomenoys einai wromisqioi daskaloi kai kaqhghtes ston tomea ths ekpaideyshs. Ayto ginetai kaqe xrono. Profanws, to exoyn jexasei osoi apo to PASOK prospaqoyn na dhmioyrghsoyn esfalmenes entypwseis. Ektos ean pisteyoyn oti oi anagkes aytes toy ellhnikoy ekpaideytikoy systhmatos den prepei na kalyptontai me ton tropo poy kalyptontai, edw kai polla xronia. Dhladh, na mhn proslambanontai oi wromisqioi kaqhghtes - -den gnwrizw ean einai swstos o oros ``wromisqioi'' alla, en pash periptwsei, daskaloi kai kaqhghtes gia sygkekrimeno xroniko diasthma- - gia na kalycoyn tis anagkes twn sxoleiwn.

Ola ayta ginontai se mia periodo poy to PASOK brisketai se mia poly dyskolh qesh gia osa yperbolika, se diafora qemata, exei diatypwsei to teleytaio diasthma. Den ejyphretoyn se tipote allo para mono tis mikrokommatikes skopimothtes toy kommatos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai thn prospaqeia thn opoia kataballoyn diafora stelexh ths hgetikhs omadas toy k. Papandreoy na apospasoyn thn prosoxh ths koinhs gnwmhs apo tis synexeis gkafes stis opoies peftoyn ta stelexh toy PASOK.

Oson afora sto prwto qema sto opoio anaferqhkate: Qa hqela na sas pw oti ontws yparxei mia ayjhsh aytoy poy leme ``tameiakoy elleimmatos''. Den einai to pragmatiko elleimma. Yparxoyn texnikes ejhghseis gia tis opoies sas parakalw na apeyqynqeite sto Ypoyrgeio Oikonomias. Den qa prepei, omws, kaneis na lhsmonei oti briskomaste - -kai anaferomai sthn pragmatikh oikonomia- - mesa se mia oikonomikh krish, ths opoias oi telikes diastaseis, oi oristikes diastaseis den einai apolyta eydiakrites. H krish ejelissetai. Oi synepeies ths krishs gia th xwra mas exoyn katagrafei men se orismenoys tomeis, alla ejakoloyqoyn na ejelissontai. Yparxei mia meiwmenh oikonomikh drasthriothta. H meiwmenh oikonomikh drasthriothta exei sygkekrimena apotelesmata. Exei meiwsh esodwn. Ayta einai aytonohta pragmata, ta opoia qa eprepe na hjeran osoi biastika speydoyn na katalhjoyn se symperasmata poy apexoyn, polles fores, apo thn pragmatikothta, alla kai thn alhqeia.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, alla h kybernhsh den ta hjere otan milage oti me to organwmeno sxedio ths qa bgalei me asfaleia th xwra apo thn krish; Edw blepoyme oti to elleimma exei enan ektroxiasmo, mia katarreysh piqanon.

ANTWNAROS: Milame gia tameiako elleimma, to opoio synhqws diaferei poly apo to pragmatiko elleimma. Egw den eipa pote, ws Ekproswpos ths kybernhshs, kai kaneis den isxyristhke apo thn kybernhsh oti den qa yparjoyn synepeies. Yparxoyn synepeies. Ekeino to opoio lew einai oti oi synepeies sth xwra mas einai poly mikroteres apo xwres, opoy fer` eipein kybernoyn omoideates toy k. Papandreoy kai toy PASOK. Opoy yparxei anergia ths tajews toy dekaoktw tois ekato. Opoy yparxoyn elleimmata ta opoia exoyn ektroxiastei, apo tis arxes toy xronoy. Opoy h biomhxanikh paragwgh h h oikonomikh drasthriothta exei ptwsh pente kai eji h epta monades. Opoy h arnhtikh anaptyjh exei fqasei sto tessera tois ekato kai sto pente tois ekato.

Den isxyristhka pote oti h katastash sthn Ellada einai rodinh. Den isxyristhka pote oti den qa yparjoyn synepeies poy qa einai dysarestes, endexomenws kai odynhres. Ekeino to opoio kanoyme kaqe stigmh, kaqe ebdomada, kaqe mhna, einai na parakoloyqoyme tis ejelijeis oi opoies edw, opws kai se alles xwres, den einai panta problecimes. Synhqws, den einai problecimes. Kai prosarmozoyme tis draseis mas me tetoio tropo poy kai oi oikonomika kai koinwnika asqenesteroi qa wfelhqoyn, qa mporesoyn na antapejelqoyn kai h koinwnia synolika qa brei sthrigmata na akoymphsei kai h oikonomia qa exei ekeines tis bohqhtikes draseis poy xreiazontai gia na leitoyrghsei.

Pros ta ekei katateinei kai ayto poy sas eipa shmera eisagwgika gia thn energeiakh anabaqmish twn kthriwn, anaferqhka kai sas to eipa jekaqara: Ena apo ta wfelhmata poy qa yparjoyn qa einai h sthrijh toy kataskeyastikoy kladoy. Polloi Ellhnes, se mesaioy kai mikroy oikonomikoy epipedoy, zoyn apo ton kataskeyastiko klado. Eite dioti exoyn ena magazi kai poyloyn xrwmata. Eite dioti ergazontai ws hlektrologoi h ydraylikoi. Eite dioti einai aploi ergates ston kataskeyastiko klado.

Otan, loipon, o kataskeyastikos klados sthrizetai, oi anqrwpoi aytoi kai tziro kanoyn stis epixeirhseis poy exoyn kai doyleia briskoyn osoi qeloyn na broyn doyleia. Etsi enisxyetai h oikonomia.

KAKALHS: Me sygxwreite, qelw na symplhrwsw, paroti se kaqe periptwsh aytos o dhmosionomikos ektroxiasmos dhmioyrgei nea dedomena, hqela na rwthsw, ean epikeintai nea ektakta metra kai deyteron, ean qa ephreastoyn kai qa epispeystoyn oi politikes ejelijeis.

ANTWNAROS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, exw topoqethqei tis teleytaies hmeres, kat` epanalhch. Den exw na prosqesw kati kainoyrgio. H kybernhsh, me ola ayta poy sas eipa, apodeiknyei ena aplo pragma: Einai epikentrwmenh sto ergo ths kai th doyleia ths. Einai epikentrwmenh sthn egnoia thn opoia exei gia oloys toys Ellhnes kai th xwra. Ola ta alla apasxoloyn kapoioys, oi opoioi to mono poy skeptontai einai to pws qa fqasoyn sthn ejoysia. Emas, mas endiaferei na kanoyme prajh ayto poy exoyme pei: Kai th xwra na thn pame mprosta kai ta zhthmata poy apasxoloyn toys Ellhnes polites na ta lynoyme synexeia.

Sas eyxaristw.


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