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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-08-24

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Deytera, 24 Aygoystoy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 220518828

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O KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 24 Aygoystoy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

EYAGGELO ANTWNARO

Kalhmera kai kalh ebdomada.

Zhthsa, na erqete ligo pio nwris shmera, prokeimenoy na sas kanw mia synolikh kai leptomereiakh enhmerwsh gia tis dysarestes ejelijeis twn teleytaiwn hmerwn sto metwpo twn pyrkagiwn.

Qa epikentrwqw se ayto to qema kai qa paraqesw ola ta stoixeia poy yparxoyn mexri stigmhs, prokeimenoy oi Ellhnes polites, opws exei ginei allwste tis teleytaies hmeres, na exoyn synexws plhrh kai sfairikh enhmerwsh gia tis ejelijeis.

Stoxos, ayths ths enhmerwshs den einai fysika na ypokatasthsw egw apo th qesh moy th syxnh enhmerwsh poy ginetai apo thn Pyrosbestikh Yphresia, sthn opoia parakalw na apeyqyneste otan prokeitai gia epixeirhsiaka qemata.

Allwste, h Pyrosbestikh Yphresia, ta dyo teleytaia eikositetrawra, to Sabbato kai thn Kyriakh, exei kanei, dia toy ekproswpoy ths, polles, syxnes kai analytikes enhmerwseis gia o,ti symbainei sto metwpo twn pyrkagiwn.

H katastash sta metwpa twn pyrkagiwn sthn anatolikh Attikh, brisketai kai shmera se ejelijh, xwris omws thn entash twn prohgoymenwn hmerwn. Apo to prwi -kai sygkekrimena apo tis 06.17- epixeiroyn sthn Attikh symfwna me thn epishmh anakoinwsh toy Genikoy Epiteleioy Aeroporias, 12 pyrosbestika aeroskafh typoy Kananter, ek twn opoiwn ennea ellhnika, dyo italika kai ena galliko. Epishs apo tis 06.11 to prwi epixeiroyn dyo Kananter sthn perioxh toy Porto Germeno ston Kiqairwna sth Boiwtia, enw alla dyo epixeiroyn sthn perioxh ths Karystoy sthn Eyboia.

Oi klimatologikes synqhkes, kyriws oi poly isxyroi anemoi oi opoioi allazoyn synexeia kateyqynsh kai dysxerainoyn poly thn prospaqeia gia thn katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn apo aeros, ejakoloyqoyn kai shmera, allote me megalyterh entash kai allote me mikroterh. Ayto allwste fanhke kapoies wres shmera to prwi sthn perioxh ths Boiwtias, opoy diekoph h pthsh kapoiwn apo ta iptamena mesa, akribws giati prepei na yparxoyn sygkekrimenes synqhkes wste na mporoyn afenos men na petoyn kai afeteroy na epixeiroyn apotelesmatika.

Ayto to lew gia na ejhghsoyme oso mporoyme kalytera oti den einai pantote dynath -eidika se aytes tis dyskoles kairikes synqhkes, dhladh toys isxyroys anemoys, alla kai alla fainomena ta opoia proekycan, opws fer`eipein ta pykna nefh kapnoy- h apotelesmatikh drash twn pyrosbestikwn aeroplanwn kai elikopterwn, enas tomeas ston opoio gnwrizete, oti h xwra mas einai apo tis koryfaies sthn Eyrwph. Qa sas dwsw perissotera stoixeia se ligo gia ola ayta ta shmeia.

Oi prospaqeies katasbeshs twn pyrkagiwn synexisthkan kaq` olh th diarkeia ths nyktas, apo ta isxyra pezopora tmhmata, ta opoia me aytoqysia prospaqhsan kai stis perissoteres periptwseis kataferan na sbhsoyn polles apo tis esties.

Aytos, omws, den einai logos gia efhsyxasmo. Kai to lew ayto, giati eidame tis teleytaies hmeres syxnes anazwpyrwseis se ena poly platy metwpo ths fwtias. Se perioxes poy polles apo aytes afenos einai dysbates, afeteroy yparxoyn polles katoikies se alla merh, poy kanoyn dyskolh th rich neroy apo ta aeroplana. Se perioxes opoy einai poly pyknh h blasthsh apo peyka, yparxoyn dhladh peykodash, o opoios einai kata kapoio tropo enas epipleon epibaryntikos paragontas, oso wraia kai an einai ta peyka, gia thn ejaplwsh twn pyrkagiwn.

O Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Karamanlhs episkefqhke xqes, Kyriakh, arga to brady, gia trith fora, to Syntonistiko Epixeirhsiako Kentro twn Yphresiwn toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos, prokeimenoy na enhmerwqei apo toys armodioys gia thn poreia twn pyrkagiwn kai ths synexoys prospaqeias gia thn katasbesh toys. O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwnetai apo thn prwth stigmh gia thn ejelijh ayths ths idiaitera dyskolhs katastashs.

Oi prospaqeies katasbeshs twn pyrkagiwn syntonizontai, apo thn prwth wra, apo ton Arxhgo toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos k. Kontokwsta, o opoios eyriskomenos se pthsh, tis perissoteres wres, me to syntonistiko elikoptero, katopteye thn perioxh mazi me toys epiteleis toy kai edine oles ekeines tis odhgies, sxetika me tis proteraiothtes twn stoxwn, thn proteraiothta kai tis kinhseis twn tmhmatwn, prokeimenoy na sbhsoyn oi fwties prwta stoys strathgikoys stoxoys.

Qa hqela na sas pw oti symfwna me ta teleytaia stoixeia ta opoia exw apo to Pyrosbestiko Swma, epixeiroyn synolika oles aytes tis hmeres, 15 aeroskafh, 8 elikoptera, 150 oxhmata, xilia pentakosia atoma metexoyn sta pezopora tmhmata -den sygkatalegw fysika se aytoys tis polles xiliades twn eqelontwn, oi opoioi me aytoqysia kai aytoi, metexoyn sth synolikh prospaqeia- dekades mhxanhmata ergoy kai panw apo 100 ydrofores.

Stis pyrkagies ths Boreioanatolikhs Attikhs epixeirhsan kata to dihmero 22 kai 23 Aygoystoy, dhladh mexri kai xqes to brady poy stamathsan na petane, ta aeroskafh kai ta elikoptera poy sas anefera. Ta aeroskafh pragmatopoihsan stis 22 Aygoystoy 95 wres pthshs kai stis 23 Aygoystoy 115 wres pthshs, synolika 210 wres pthshs. Ta pyrosbestika elikoptera pragmatopoihsan stis 22 Aygoystoy 65 wres pthshs kai stis 23 Aygoystoy 68 wres pthshs, synolika 133 wres.

Opws tonisan xqes oi armodioi Ypoyrgoi kai to eipa kai egw sthn epikoinwnia poy eixa me polloys apo esas thlefwnika, o syntonismos olhs ths kratikhs mhxanhs htan apo thn arxh kala organwmenos. Oi entoles poy eixan doqei htan ola ta tmhmata ths ellhnikhs Dhmosias Dioikhshs na briskontai se egrhgorsh. Fysiko, de, einai mesa se ayto to plaisio na einai shmantikos kai o rolos twn Enoplwn Dynamewn.

Synolika, mexri shmera stis 11.00 to prwi -sas lew ta stoixeia ta opoia exw apo to Geniko Epiteleio Eqnikhs Amynas- oi Enoples Dynameis, antapokrinomenes sto 100% twn aithmatwn poy ypeblhqhsan apo toys armodioys foreis, dieqesan stis yphresies ths Genikhs Grammateias Politikhs Prostasias, gia thn antimetwpish twn pyrkagiwn poy briskontai se ejelijh sto nomo Attikhs, dynameis, enaeria mesa kai ylika.

Sygkekrimena, to proswpiko twn Enoplwn Dynamewn poy metexei einai 1298 atoma. To proswpiko poy diateqhke pros yposthrijh ths dasopyrosbeshs einai 1092 atoma, to proswpiko gia peripoloys epithrhshs einai 112 atoma. Kai synolika, an labei kaneis ypoch oti to proswpiko ayto antikaqistatai ana 24 wres, dioti yparxei kai kopwsh, kataponhsh, exoyn emplakei, exoyn metasxei sthn pyrosbesh 2500 atoma.

Sas eipa gia ta elikoptera. Sas eipa gia tis wres pthshs. Oi pthseis aytes -xrhsimopoiwntas ton eidiko oro- antistoixoyn se 2200 afeseis, dhladh riceis neroy, me synolika 13200 tonoys neroy.

Exoyn diateqei epishs asqenofora oxhmata, pyrosbestika oxhmata -26 ton ariqmo- 14 ydrofora oxhmata, 6 oxhmata xwmatoyrgikwn ergasiwn kai 7 lewforeia gia th metafora oswn xreiasthke na metaferqoyn. Taytoxrona oi Enoples Dynameis efarmosan hdh arketa metra toy sxedioy ``Jenokraths'' to opoio, opws sas enhmerwse xqes o Ypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Paylopoylos, arxise na efarmozetai xwris kamia xronotribh, enw se epifylakh brisketai to 100% toy proswpikoy toy synoloy twn monadwn twn Enoplwn Dynamewn sto nomo Attikhs.

Se etoimothta, epishs, exoyn teqei ta tria nosokomeia twn Enoplwn Dynamewn sthn Aqhna, me synolo 363 diatiqemenwn klinwn, 16 asqenofora kai 253 atoma noshleytiko proswpiko, 12 elikoptera gia thn periptwsh ekkenwshs proswpikoy, 9 asqenofora sta Kentra Ygeias, 45 oxhmata genikhs yposthrijhs h eidikwn xrhsewn, monades ameshs etoimothtas kai ayth th stigmh kineitai kai ena tagma 400 andrwn apo th Qessalonikh pros thn Aqhna. Einai aerometaferomeno kai perilambanei loxo Mhxanikoy me 100 andres. Epishs, moira aeroporikhs yposthrijhs me katallhlo ejoplismo.

Apo thn prwth stigmh, me thn kinhtopoihsh olwn twn dynamewn kai olwn osoi hqelan na prosferoyn, o stoxos htan enas: Bebaiws, na sbhsoyn oi pyrkagies. Na sbhsoyn apotelesmatika. Na perioristei h zhmia poy prokaloyn kai sto periballon, sto oikologiko mas periballon, se ayto poy zoyme oloi kai stis perioysies twn synanqrwpwn mas. Alla h proteraiothta einai na apofeyxqoyn anqrwpina qymata.

Den mporei, bebaia, kaneis na pei oti den katastrafhkan kapoies perioysies. Epeidh tis teleytaies meres grafontai kai legontai polles anakribeies, qa hqela na pw oti synolika ta katestrammena spitia einai poly liga. Poly ligotera apo ayta poy polles fores anaferontai. Ayta de poy exoyn ypostei zhmies einai epishs liga. Kai to lew ayto dioti exei zhthqei kai exei hdh arxisei, apo to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn h katagrafh aytwn twn zhmiwn, prokeimenoy na exoyme plhrh eikona.

Opws antilambanontai oloi, einai fysiko oti ayth th stigmh poy oi fwties se polles perioxes ejakoloyqoyn na yparxoyn (yparxoyn akomh polles mikres esties kai yparxei o kindynos ths anazwpyrwshs gia ton opoio sas milhsa pro oligoy) den einai dynaton na ginei plhrhs kai akribhs katagrafh kai apotimhsh aytwn twn zhmiwn. Alla, to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn exei zhthsei apo thn Perifereia Attikhs se synergasia me th Genikh Grammateia Politikhs Prostasias na arxisei - kai exei arxisei hdh - thn katagrafh.

Qa hqela, epishs, na pw kati gia to qema twn ekkenwsewn apo diafores perioxes: To plaisio, mesa sto opoio ginontai oi ekkenwseis einai ligo  poly gnwsto se oloys mas. To apofasizoyn oi topikoi dhmoi h oi koinothtes meta apo systash ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias h twn astynomikwn arxwn. Sas to lew aplopoihmena gia na ginei antilhpto. Polla egrafhsan, kyriws se jena Mesa poy epikaloynto kapoies ellhnikes phges, oti dhqen ston Agio Stefano egine mia megalh ekkenwsh dekadwn xiliadwn anqrwpwn. Ayto den einai alhqeia. Ekkenwqhkan, apomakrynqhkan se memonwmenes periptwseis kapoia atoma eite dioti to ezhthsan oi idioi eite dioti eprepe na fygoyn apo tis perioxes giati etsi ekrinan oi armodioi. Alla tetoies mazikes ekkenwseis - kai den prepei na mas fobizei h lejh ayth - to lew me apolyth parrhsia, den eginan. Anqrwpoi metakinhqhkan proswrina dioti aisqanqhkan apeiloymenoi. Einai apolyta fysiko kai katanohto. Oi perissoteroi omws apo aytoys, h syntriptikh pleiochfia toys, exoyn hdh gyrisei sta spitia toys.

Oson afora tis zhmies sto fytiko kai zwiko kefalaio: H oysiastikh apotimhsh qa arxisei otan sbhsoyn olosxerws oi pyrkagies. Hdh omws apo ton ELGA, poy exei kai thn armodiothta, arxise h katagrafh twn zhmiwn sto fytiko kai zwiko kefalaio, wste na apozhmiwqoyn oi plhgentes agrotes mesw toy programmatos PSEA. Leptomereies qa anakoinwqoyn otan ftasoyme se ayto to shmeio. To lew ayto, dioti legontai polla gia eishghseis, apofaseis, klp. Kamia tetoia apofash den exei lhfqei mexri stigmhs. Mas endiaferei prwtista -kai to epanalambanw- na sbhsoyn oles oi pyrkagies. Na eimaste bebaioi oti den yparxoyn kindynoi gia anazwpyrwsh.

Qa hqela na anaferqw se orismenes alles prwtoboylies oi opoies elhfqhsan apo to Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Paideias kai Qrhskeymatwn. Apo thn prwth stigmh to Ypoyrgeio htan se epafh me ton perifereiako dieyqynth Prwtobaqmias kai Deyterobaqmias Ekpaideyshs ths Attikhs, prokeimenoy na sygkentrwqoyn egkaira kai na yparxoyn oles oi plhrofories gia tyxon zhmies se ktiria sxoleiwn twn perioxwn poy eplhghsan. Kai ayto, opws antilambaneste, oytws h allws prepei na ginei. Poly perissotero otan briskomaste molis ligo diasthma prin apo thn enarjh ths sxolikhs xronias. Oi dieyqyntes twn sxoleiwn htan oloi se etoimothta. Osoi dieyqyntes sxolikwn monadwn den apoysiazan logw twn qerinwn diakopwn kai sto metro poy oi synqhkes to epetrepan, phran odhgies kai episkefthkan ta sxoleia toys gia na kanoyn epitopio elegxo. Yphrje epikoinwnia stelexwn ekpaideyshs me tis armodies dhmotikes arxes.

Shmera, o perifereiakos dieyqynths Ekpaideyshs Attikhs zhthse kai me eggrafo toy apo tis armodies Dieyqynseis leptomerh enhmerwsh gia tyxon zhmies se sxolikes monades. Kai ayto to lew giati ola ta alla opws antilambaneste, eginan ligo - poly me proforiko tropo to Sabbatokyriako, to teleytaio oysiastika Sabbatokyriako twn diakopwn. Se kaqe periptwsh ta stelexh ths ekpaideyshs se synergasia kai me ta stelexh toy Organismoy Sxolikwn Ktiriwn, proebhsan kai qa proboyn se peraiterw epitopioys elegxoys, prokeimenoy na diapistwsoyn thn katallhlothta twn ktiriwn.

Gnwrizete, epishs, oti diafores prwtoboylies anelabe kai h Ellhnikh Astynomia prokeimenoy na dieykolynei aytes tis dyskoles hmeres -kai na dieykolynei akomh kai shmera- th metakinhsh twn katoikwn twn perioxwn kai oswn katoikwn ths prwteyoysas epestrefan apo tis diakopes toys, kyriws mesw ths Eqnikhs Odoy. Orise diafores parakampthries, dedomenoy oti htan ypoxrewtiko logw twn synqhkwn na kleisoyn diafores alles arthries. Den qa anaferqw leptomereiaka se ayto to qema.

Qa hqela, epishs, na pw oti eginan bebaiws egkairws -to ypogrammizw ayto- oles oi apaitoymenes synennohseis se eyrwpaiko epipedo alla kai me alles filikes xwres, prokeimenoy, (opws symbainei syxna sthn Eyrwph, sthn perioxh mas th Mesogeio) na yparjei h bohqeia pros th xwra mas toso me pyrosbestika aeroplana kai elikoptera, oso kai me anqrwpino dynamiko.

Sas eipa gia ta mesa ta opoia exoyn erqei. Anamenontai kai alla, nomizw ena galliko aeroplano akomh. Yphrje bohqeia apo thn Kypro apo eidikeymenoys dasopyrosbestes, oi opoioi hdh epixeiroyn, nomizw sthn perioxh toy Kiqairwna, alla sas parakalw gi ayto kratw mia epifylajh.

Metaferqhkan xqes 60 peripoy ylotomoi, eidikeymenoi gnwstes twn dasikwn ektasewn, apo thn Boreio Ellada me C-130 sthn Aqhna kai kateyqynontai pros thn perioxh toy Kiqairwna, prokeimenoy na kanoyn oles tis aparaithtes energeies gia na antimetwpistei to problhma poy yparxei ekei.

Gnwrizete thn apofash ths Ypoyrgoy Apasxolhshs k. Fanhs  Pallh Petralia symfwna me thn opoia osoi den mporesoyn shmera na emfanistoyn sthn ergasia toys se idiwtikes epixeirhseis, den qa xasoyn to meros ekeino twn apodoxwn toys poy antistoixei sth shmerinh hmera, eite einai hmeromisqio eite einai wromisqio eite einai misqos, giati prokeitai gia anwtera bia.

Epishs, qa hqela na tonisw me ton pio kathgorhmatiko tropo oti opws egine kai alloy, opws egine -kai to lew- sthn perioxh ths Attikhs kai sygkekrimena sthn Parnhqa, etsi kai se ayth thn periptwsh, h Politeia qa kanei o,ti einai aparaithto. Qa kanei ola ekeina ta antidiabrwtika kai antiplhmmyrika erga prokeimenoy na yposthrixqoyn oi perioxes poy exasan to dasos. Kai taytoxrona qa arxisei -einai prowro poy to lew ayto kai to gnwrizw, giati den exei teleiwsei h katasbesh twn pyrkagiwn- h anadaswsh.

Sas ypenqymizw oti me ta poly apotelesmatika antidiabrwtika kai antiplhmmyrika erga poy eginan sthn Parnhqa exoyn apofeyxqei ta teleytaia xronia oi plhmmyres poy alles epoxes molonoti yphrxan dendra, talaipwroysan aytes tis perioxes.

Qa hqela epishs na pw gia mia akomh fora oti h katastash brisketai se ejelijh. Den yparxei logos akoma gia efhsyxasmo. Den dikaiologeitai omws kai panikos. Oloi mas, kyriws oi katoikoi twn perioxwn opoy ginetai ayth h fysikh katastrofh qa prepei na diathrhsoyn thn cyxraimia toys. Na gnwrizoyn oti oles oi Arxes ths Politeias einai konta toys kai kanoyn o,ti mporoyn me ola ta mesa poy diaqetei h ellhnikh Politeia kai einai polla. Kanei oti mporei gia na perifroyrhsei kai thn perioysia toys kai kyriws th zwh toys. Qa prepei se oles aytes tis periptwseis na diathroyn -opws to lew gia mia akomh fora- thn hremia toys oso ginetai kai na akoloyqoyn tis ypodeijeis poy toys ginontai apo toys armodioys.

Ean xreiastei qa sas kanw kai allh enhmerwsh sth diarkeia ths hmeras gia thn opoia qa sas eidopoihsw egkairws.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milhsate gia kala organwmeno syntonismo. Ara na ypoqesw oti h kybernhsh einai eyxaristhmenh apo ton syntonismo poy egine.

ANTWNAROS: Ayth th stigmh brisketai se ejelijh mia gigantiaia prospaqeia. Mia prospaqeia poy stoxo exei na perifroyrhsei kai na swsei thn perioxh, h opoia apeileitai. Den eimai oyte egw oyte asfalws kai eseis eidikoi gia na anaferqoyme, na krinoyme kai na analysoyme epixeirhsiaka qemata. Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai oti ola ta mesa einai apo panw, epixeiroyn synexws. H Politeia einai diarkws paroysa kai exei th eyqynh ths katasbeshs ths pyrkagias, alla bohqaei kai toys polites opote xreiazetai akomh kai se mikra pragmata. Na toys metaferei apo thn perioxh poy plhttetai se kapoio proswrino katalyma opoy qa meinoyn. Na dwsei lyseis se anqrwpoys poy exoyn anagkh apo ygeionomikh periqalch. Na ekkenwsei ena h dyo mikra nosokomeia ths perioxhs poy xreiasthke. Einai polla ta pragmata poy ginontai. Kai an qelete na sas dwsw ena syntomo istoriko, anaferomenos se stoixeia ekeinwn poy exoyn thn epixeirhsiakh eyqynh, eyxaristws na to kanw. Dhladh na sas pw oti h prwth pyrkagia ekdhlwqhke stis 20 Aygoystoy, stis 12:30, sthn perioxh Magoyla Attikhs. Sto symban epixeirhsan penhnta oxhmata, 122 pyrosbestes, 136 atoma pezoporwn tmhmatwn, oktw ydrofores twn Organismwn Topikhs Aytodioikhshs kaqws kai prowqhtika mhxanhmata toy stratoy jhras.

Sthn katasbesh ths sygkekrimenhs pyrkagias phran meros eji elikoptera kai tessera aeroplana. Giati to lew ayto; Gia na deijw oti apo thn prwth stigmh h paroysia htan megalh...

KOTTARIDHS: Gia poia pyrkagia milate;

ANTWNAROS: Sth Magoyla, stis 20 toy mhnos. Stis 21 Aygoystoy, stis 20:46 ekdhlwqhke pyrkagia sthn perioxh metajy Sesi kai Grammatikoy. Amesws kinhtopoihqhkan isxyres dynameis, apoteloymenes apo dekatessera oxhmata me saranta dyo pyrosbestes, oi opoioi stadiaka enisxyqhkan kai eftasan sthn katasbesh na epixeiroyn trianta pente oxhmata me 121 pyrosbestes, penhnta atoma twn pezoporwn tmhmatwn kai eikosi ydrofores ths Topikhs Aytodioikhshs. Me to prwto fws ths hmeras -htan brady, se dysprosith perioxh, ean qymamai kala apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw, se xaradra- oi epigeies dynameis enisxyqhkan kai me enaeria mesa ta opoia stadiaka eftasan se ennea pyrosbestika aeroplana kai se pente elikoptera. To lew ayto gia na dwsw anaglyfa kai se esas kai se osoys mas parakoloyqoyn to megeqos ths prospaqeias, h opoia kataballetai synexws. Kai as mhn jexname oti yphrxan kai alles dekades pyrkagies se oloklhrh thn Ellada.

XIWTHS: Eipate prohgoymenws pws ginetai hdh h katagrafh spitiwn poy exoyn katastrafei, poy exoyn paqei ypostei zhmies. Ayto poy qelw na sas rwthsw einai an h kybernhsh skopeyei na apozhmiwsei oloys toys idiokthtes twn spitiwn aytwn h yparxei skech na mhn apozhmiwqoyn osoi exoyn xtisei mesa se ektaseis poy xarakthrizontai dasikes;

ANTWNAROS: Eipa oti to Ypoyrgeio Eswterikwn poy exei kai thn armodiothta, edwse odhgies na arxisei h katagrafh. Eimaste se poly prwimo stadio gia ayto to qema. Gia toys logoys poy sas ejhghsa. Giati yparxoyn polles katoikies mesa sta dash, dhladh se perioxes poy einai dentrofytemenes kai to anefera giati eginan anafores oxi kat' anagkh se orismena ellhnika Mesa, alla kai se entypa toy ejwterikoy, oti yphrxe poly megalos ariqmos katestrammenwn oikiwn. Ayto den antapokrinetai basei twn stoixeiwn poy exoyme mexri stigmhs, sthn pragmatikothta. Qa moy epitrecete loipon na eimai poly prosektikos sta sxetika stoixeia ta opoia dinw.

Oson afora sto eidiko erwthma to opoio qesate, den eimai se qesh na apanthsw kati sxetika me apozhmiwseis h apotimhsh zhmiwn. Ekeino to opoio eipa, oson afora to fytiko kai zwiko ployto ths xwras mas einai oti exei arxisei apo ton ELGA mia katagrafh. Alla antilambaneste oti ayth einai poly apospasmatikh, th stigmh poy akomh kai ekei poy exoyn sbhsei oi pyrkagies, yparxoyn mikres esties. Gnwrizete pws einai aytes oi pyrkagies, eidika to kalokairi.

GKATSIOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete sta xeria sas endeijeis h akomh kai stoixeia poy na deixnoyn oti pisw apo thn pyrkagia sthn Attikh yparxei organwmeno sxedio emprhsmoy; Kai h Genikh Grammateas toy KKE k. Paparhga kai o Proedros ths Enwshs Dhmwn kai Koinothtwn Attikhs k. Kalogeropoylos, milhsan anoixta gia emprhsmo.

ANTWNAROS: Ekeino poy mas endiaferei ayth th stigmh einai ena kai mono: Xwris anqrwpines apwleies -kai to epanalambanw gia mia akomh fora- na sbhsoyn oi pyrkagies.

KOTTARIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh qa perimena mia kybernhsh na exei labei ola ta katallhla metra prolhchs, etsi wste na mh ftasoyme se ayto to shmeio kai oxi anagkastika mono pyrosbestika. Den milaw mono gia metra pyrosbeshs, alla metra prolhchs, wste na mhn epektaqei etsi h fwtia. Eseis, thn epomenh hmera, otan ginei h apotimhsh ths katastrofhs, qa anazhthsete eyqynes, eite politikes eyqynes, eite eyqynes sthn Topikh Aytodioikhsh, eite alloy;

ANTWNAROS: Exw apanthsei hdh. Qa hqela omws na sas pw oti poly prosfata -kai sas parapempw se ayto- egine enhmerwsh stoys dhmosiografoys gia ola ta metra poy exoyn lhfqei, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei to endexomeno pyrkagiwn. Oi pyrkagies omws sth xwra mas, -kai oxi mono sth xwra mas- den einai kati prwtognwro. Se olh thn perioxh ths Mesogeioy exoyme pyrkagies, synhqws ayth thn periodo. Se geitonikes xwres, stis opoies emeis prostrejame gia na bohqhsoyme me ta dika mas mesa -sthn Italia, sthn Ispania kai oxi mono- shmeiwqhkan pyrkagies ishs h sygkrisimhs entashs, akomh kai megalyterhs entashs. Se xwres makrytera apo emas, stis Hnwmenes Politeies, sthn politeia ths Kalifornia h sthn Aystralia, eixame kai exoyme synexeia pyrkagies megalhs entashs. Eseis poy ergazeste se thleoptiko staqmo qa qymaste oti gia polles meres edeixnan tis eikones.

Ti qelw na pw me ayto; Den mporei kapoios na einai eyxaristhmenos me thn yparjh mias pyrkagias poy katastrefei to fysiko ployto, poy katastrefei idiokthsies, poy apeilei anqrwpines zwes. Omws ekeino to opoio prepei na kanei mia Politeia, einai na einai kala proetoimasmenh, wste thn krisimh stigmh na kanei o,ti einai anqrwpinws dynato wste na perioristoyn oi zhmies, na perioristei h fqora sto fysiko periballon, na meiwqei o anqrwpinos ponos.

Sas ypenqymizw oti thn 1h Ioynioy 2009, prin apo treis mhnes peripoy, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe episkefqei to Syntonistiko Epixeirhsiako Kentro toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos. Eixe enhmerwqei kai anaferqhke diejodika, se dhlwseis tis opoies ekane, kai se o,ti kanei h ellhnikh Politeia, alla kai h shmerinh kybernhsh, prokeimenoy oi kindynoi poy sas anefera prohgoymenws, na einai oso to dynaton pio periorismenoi.

Sygkekrimena, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti pera apo ta 1500 ydrofora oxhmata poy dieqete h xwra mas, prosteqhkan 68 nea kai eprokeito na paralhfqoyn se ekeino to diasthma alla 50. Epipleon entaxqhkan 45 bohqhtika oxhmata. Ypenqymizw, gia mia akomh fora, kati poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos ekeines tis hmeres, oti h xwra mas diaqetei enan apo toys megalyteroys stoloys meswn aeropyrosbeshs ston kosmo. Kai oti yphrxe se ejelijh diagwnismos gia th misqwsh -kaqe toso ginetai aytos o diagwnismos- kai allwn elikopterwn.

Se o,ti afora to proswpiko, exei oloklhrwqei h proslhch 553 newn pyrosbestwn, oi opoioi tote eixan enswmatwqei sth dynamh toy Pyrosbestikoy Swmatos. Kai sas ypenqymizw oti kata to prosfato parelqon polloi elegan giati den proslambanontan kai alloi pyrosbestes. 240 neoi dokimoi pyrosbestes eixan eiselqei ton Maio sth Sxolh Pyrosbestwn. Epishs epanaproslhfqhkan 5.500 tote epoxikoi ypallhloi poy diaqetoyn idiaitera ploysia empeiria sth dasopyrosbesh.

Ti qelw na pw me ayto; H prospaqeia einai synexhs. Einai synexhs gia na antimetwpizetai ena zhthma to opoio ola ta xronia apasxolei th xwra mas. Einai ena zhthma apo to opoio synexeia maqainoyme. Ayth h pyrkagia sthn Attikh -kai pali den qelw na parasyrqw kai na anaferqw se qemata eidika h epixeirhsiaka- eixe tis idiaiterothtes ths. Toys idiaitera dynatoys anemoys gia megalo xroniko diasthma oi opoioi synexws allazan kateyqynsh. Kai mas lene oi metewrologoi oti endexomenws kai tis epomenes hmeres qa yparxoyn isxyroi anemoi. H xrhsh twn aeroporikwn kai twn enaeriwn pyrosbestikwn meswn exei kai ayth toys kanones ths gia to pws ginetai. Sygkekrimenoys kanones poy, eimai bebaios, oti otan apeyqynqeite se enan eidiko qa toys plhroforhqeite.

Kai einai titania h prospaqeia thn opoia katabaloyn afenos men oi pilotoi aytoy toy eidikoy stoloy iptamenwn meswn, alla kai oi texnikoi kaqe brady. Kai qelw na anaferqw se ayto me eidikh mneia. Otan ta aeroplana kai ta elikoptera kanoyn thn teleytaia pthsh toys kai prosgeiwqoyn sto aerodromio opoy einai egkatesthmena, prospaqoyn se liges wres na ta janaferoyn se ekeinh thn katastash poy xreiazetai na einai wste na petajoyn thn allh mera. Xreiazontai synexh frontida ayta ta aeroplana, dioti petoyn me idiaitera antijoes synqhkes gia polles wres thn hmera. Kai ajizoyn pragmatika sygxarhthriwn oloi osoi aytes tis hmeres ejakoloyqoyn me megalh aytoqysia na prospaqoyn na periorisoyn th zhmia poy ginetai.

PALAIOLOGOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, kaneis den diafwnei me thn ektimhsh oti pragmati xiliades ths pyrosbestikhs kai oi eqelontes kai oi anqrwpoi apo thn topikh aytodioikhsh kanoyn o,ti einai dynaton gia na periorisoyn thn ektash ths katastrofhs. Wstoso omws, akoysthkan polles fwnes gia elleich, gia aneparkeia enaeriwn meswn. Dhladh, gia to oti prwton, den yphrxe eparkhs stolos apo pyrosbestika aeroskafh h apo pyrosbestika elikoptera. Deyteron, akoysthke oti den yphrje syntonismos. Egine mia kritikh, mporei na egine se xamhloys tonoys, omws diatypwqhkan sygkekrimena pragmata. Dhladh, gia thn aneparkeia, as poyme, toy stoloy, twn aeroplanwn, gia thn elleich syntonismoy. Se ola ayta ti exete na peite; Kai epishs ena trito erwthma se sxesh me ayto: Yparxei kritikh oti den katesth dynato na elegxqei h pyrkagia sthn arxh, otan ekdhlwqhke kai sygkekrimena ennow apo tis 21:00...

ANTWNAROS: 20:45.

PALAIOLOGOS: 20:45, nai, ews tis prwtes prwines wres jefyge apo ton elegxo me apotelesma na ginei ayto poy egine.

ANTWNAROS: Gia to teleytaio sas edwsa hdh ta stoixeia. Nomizw oti einai peritto na epanelqw. Se ena allo qema to opoio qijate. Gia ta enaeria mesa. Anaferqhka prohgoymenws kai eipa oti h xwra mas exei apo toys megalyteroys stoloys tetoiwn aeroskafwn ston kosmo. Ayto einai dieqnws anagnwrismeno. Kai ta aeroskafh ayta dinoyn pragmatika enan jexwristo tono kai jexwristh oysia sthn prospaqeia poy ginetai gia na sbhsoyn oi pyrkagies. Alla h prospaqeia einai panta mia synolikh prospaqeia olwn.

To eipa kai prohgoymenws, kai qelw na to epanalabw: Ta aeroskafh den briskontai kai den mporei na briskontai ola mazi ston aera. Mpainw se epixeirhsiaka qemata kai den qelw na to kanw se kamia periptwsh. Rwthste kai qa sas ejhghsoyn. Ginetai mia kyklikh, as to poyme etsi, prospaqeia. Akoysthke akomh kai apo kapoia pleyra, kai to qetw egw to qema gia na sas apanthsw, giati den zhthqhkan kai alla aeroskafh. Kai apantw: Ayth h diadikasia ginetai me eyrwpaikh synennohsh. Yparxoyn, epishs, xwres poy diaqetoyn aeroskafh ta opoia den antapokrinontai sto ellhniko systhma epikoinwnias. Ta italika kai gallika aeroskafh poy hrqan diaqetoyn to idio systhma epikoinwnias.

Akoysthke epishs giati den zhthqhkan h den misqwqhkan aeroskafh apo th Rwsia. H apanthsh, qa sas th dwsw, einai aplh: Ta rwsika pyrosbestika aeroskafh einai poly prohgmenoy typoy, alla proorizontai gia alles perioxes, oxi gia tis idiaiterothtes ths ellhnikhs gewmorfologias, na sas to pw etsi. Kai gi` ayto akribws ta aeroskafh h ta elikoptera poy erxontai prepei na einai apo xwres poy exoyn sygkrisimes anagkes me tis dikes mas. Ayto ginetai. Se kaqe periptwsh omws, diaqetoyme ena ajiomaxo stolo pyrosbestikwn aeroskafwn kai elikopterwn ta opoia petoyn pilotoi me idiaitera megalh peira kai ta synthroyn texnikoi edafoys poy epishs exoyn peira pollwn xronwn me ta sygkekrimena aeroskafh sthn epaggelmatikh toys diadromh.

KOTTARIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh oi perioxes poy kahkan, oi perissoteres apo aytes, apoteloyn oikistika ``fileta'' kai idiaitera gia orismenoys oikodomikoys synetairismoys poy ta diekdikoyn edw kai xronia, eseis desmeyeste -ayto poy exoyme akoysei kai kata to parelqon- oti opoy yphrxe dasos qa parameinei dasos, qa janaginei dasos;

ANTWNAROS: Ayto isxyei aparegklita. To exoyme pei kai isxyei. Sas to eipa sthn arxh: Den kanoyme kamia apolytws ekptwsh.

FANIDHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, egw qa symfwnhsw mazi sas: Den eimaste eidikoi oyte eseis oyte egw, na krinoyme ton epixeirhsiako syntonismo. Omws akoygontas apo to prwi radiofwno, profanws kapoioi boyleytes ths Neas Dhmokratias einai perissotero eidikoi kai apo esas kai apo emena. Kai yparxoyn boyleytes, eidika apo thn perifereia poy exei plhgei, opws o k. Doykas gia paradeigma, poy milwntas sto ``Kanali 1'', eipe oti yparxoyn eyqynes kai perimenei na pesoyn kefalia. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

ANTWNAROS:. Den exw na kanw apolytws kanena sxolio, isxyoyn ayta poy sas eipa.

TSIKRIKA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, yphrjan kataggelies aytes tis hmeres apo syndikalistes ths Pyrosbestikhs Yphresias, oi opoioi kathggeilan oti enw sthn Aqhna yparxoyn peripoy 2000 pyrosbestes, ayth th stigmh epixeiroyn mono oi 600 kati. Epishs, kathggeilan oti yparxoyn ypersygxrona systhmata, ta promhqeythkame gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, opws 2 ypersygxrona lewforeia me doryforika systhmata ktl, poy qa mporoysan na bohqhsoyn, opws epishs kai apo ta 5 aeroskafh poy diaqetei h Pyrosbestikh, eipan oti mono ta 2 epixeiroyn. Kai oysiastika kathgoroyn thn Politeia oti den exei parei, den exei ejantlhsei, den exei merimnhsei, exei oligwrhsei, etsi wste na prostatecei to periballon kai th xwra apo tis pyrkagies. Ti apantate;

ANTWNAROS: Den qa asxolhqw me syndikalistikes antidikies, poly perissotero ayth th stigmh. Ekeino to opoio proexei einai oti oloi mazi me omocyxia, prepei na kanoyme ayto poy kanoyme kai ayto poy eimai bebaios oti epidokimazei h syntriptikh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn politwn. Briskomaste sth mesh mias titanias prospaqeias, h opoia akomh den exei oloklhrwqei. Den prepei se kamia periptwsh na afhnoyme thn paramikrh amfibolia gia thn eparkeia kai thn ikanothta olwn ekeinwn poy asxoloyntai me aytoqysia, me meres aypnias, me poly koyrash swmatikh kai oxi mono, me ayth thn prospaqeia.

PALAIOLOGOS: Prohgoymenws xarakthrisate anakribeies osa exoyn akoystei h grafthkan ston jeno Typo kai ston... .

ANTWNAROS: Yperboles, eipa.

PALAIOLOGOS: Yperboles, nai. Gia katestrammena spitia. Gia na lete omws oti prokeitai gia anakribeies, qa prepei na sas exei dwsei toylaxiston h Pyrosbestikh, enan ariqmo apo ta katestrammena spitia. Ena xarth dhladh poy na jerete oti einai peripoy tosa h oxi. Dhladh, lete oti einai yperboles ola ayta kai oti den einai etsi ayta poy akoygontai, wstoso omws qa prepei na exete kai eseis mia eikona. Exete sygkekrimenh eikona gia to posa einai ta katestrammena spitia;

ANTWNAROS: Den qelw ayth th stigmh na sas dwsw kapoioys ariqmoys poy exw. Sas diabebaiw, omws, oi ariqmoi oi opoioi yparxoyn mexri ayth th stigmh einai poly xamhloi kai den exoyn kamia sxesh me toys ariqmoys poy anaferqhkan apo diafora Mesa, kyriws toy ejwterikoy. Opws oi ariqmoi poy sas eipa sxetika me tis ekkenwseis tmhmatwn toy plhqysmoy, den exoyn kamia sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Se ayto anaferqhka kyriws. As perimenoyme, loipon, na sbhsoyn oles oi fwties kai qa ginei olh h katagrafh poy prepei.

Kai milw, opws sas eipa prohgoymenws, gia spitia eite olikws katestrammena eite gia spitia poy exoyn paqei poly sobares zhmies. Dioti, bebaiws, h fwtia polles fores perase dipla apo spitia, oi floges ta aggijan, ta egleican, alla den prokalesan, eytyxws, baries zhmies h den ta katestrecan. Kai ayto synebaine polles fores xarh sthn aytoqysia olwn aytwn twn sympolitwn mas, epaggelmatiwn kai mh, ennow dhladh toys pyrosbestes, toys astynomikoys, alla kai toys eqelontes, oi opoioi prospaqhsan me kaqe tropo, opws ginetai se aytes tis periptwseis, na swsoyn oti mporoysan na swsoyn.

Sas eyxaristw.


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