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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-01-08

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 8 Ianoyarioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 244950384

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Ianoyarioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalhmera.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei mia epistolh ths k. Diamantopoyloy, sxetika me to kentro ths Aqhnas kai yparxoyn kai plhrofories oti exei dysaresthsei ton armodio ypoyrgo k. Xrysoxoidh.

PETALWTHS: Den jerw apo poy phgazoyn oi plhrofories sas. Yparxei mia epistolh, poy exei apeyqynei h k. Diamantopoyloy ws ypoyrgos Paideias kai ws boyleyths ths A' perifereias Aqhnas ston ypoyrgo Epikrateias k. Pampoykh, me thn opoia qetei eyrytera zhthmata toy kentroy ths Aqhnas. Einai se gnwsh sas ayth h epistolh. Anaferei oti ta qemata toy kentroy ths Aqhnas einai qemata poy aptontai pollwn tomewn kai armodiothtwn, twn ypoyrgeiwn Eswterikwn, Periballontos, Politismoy, Paideias, Prostasias toy Polith. Sto plaisio ths systhmatikhs doyleias poy ekane ws boyleyths ths antipoliteyshs gia to qema ayto, epi dyo xronia, ejefrase tis protaseis ths, proteinontas malista kai protypa, opws ths Kopegxaghs kai ths Barkelwnhs. Apo kei kai pera, opws gnwrizete, einai se ejelijh mia syskech toy k. Xrysoxoidh, armodioy ypoyrgoy gia thn Prostasia toy Polith me toys dhmarxoys oloy toy lekanopedioy. H k. Diamantopoyloy anaferetai mono sthn Aqhna kai o k. Xrysoxoidhs se dika toy qemata, kaqws einai armodios gia thn Prostasia toy Polith. Den nomizw oti yparxei kanena qema.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, den qa eprepe h ypoyrgos, afoy afora polla ypoyrgeia, na enhmerwsei kai toys ypoyrgoys gia tis protaseis aytes poy kataqetei; Dhladh, to oti to stelnei mono ston k. Pampoykh, einai qemito;

PETALWTHS: H k. Diamantopoyloy profanws esteile thn epistolh ayth gia na proteinei, na jekinhsei mia syntonismenh diadikasia, se epipedo kybernhshs. Kai epeidh akribws aptetai pollwn zhthmatwn, kaqe armodios ypoyrgos qa klhqei sto plaisia ayto, ean proxwrhsei ayth h protash, na eisferei th dikh toy prwtoboylia, sto plaisio twn armodiothtwn toy.

SABBOPOYLOY: H syskech poy exei shmera o k. Xrysoxoidhs, htan programmatismenh;

PETALWTHS: H syskech htan programmatismenh prin apo th dhmosiopoihsh ths epistolhs ths k. Diamantopoyloy. Einai mia syskech poy den qa mporoyse na programmatistei mesa se mia hmera, apo xqes mexri shmera, afoy afora 42 dhmarxoys, to nomarxh Aqhnwn, thn yfypoyrgo Ygeias k. Gennhmata kai mia seira apo armodioys foreis. Htan safestata programmatismenh, sto plaisio ths ejairetikhs doyleias poy ginetai sto ypoyrgeio Prostasias toy Polith.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o k. Prwqypoyrgos toso stis programmatikes dhlwseis, oso kai proeklogika, alla kai meta, kai sto ypoyrgiko symboylio sthn prwth omilia toy, eixe pei oti h kybernhsh den qa nomoqetei jafnika, kai kyriws eixe katadikasei thn praktikh twn tropologiwn ths teleytaias stigmhs. Poios o logos, loipon, xqes to brady na kataqesete espeysmena ayth thn tropologia gia tis gonikes paroxes kai to foro klhronomiwn, me anadromikh malista isxy apo twra, efoson...

PETALWTHS: Apo thn kataqesh ths tropologias...

MIXAHL: Profanws. Efoson einai anoixth h diaboyleysh gia to qema toy forologikoy;

PETALWTHS: As jekaqarisoyme prwta kapoia pragmata. Bebaiws, katadikazame kai katadikazoyme kaqe aifnidiasmo, etsi opws ginotan kai apo thn prohgoymenh kybernhsh, alla kai ws xronia praktikh. Den mporoyme na poyme, omws, oti aifnidiasame kanenan, apo th stigmh poy htan kai proeklogikh desmeysh toy Panellhnioy Sosialistikoy Kinhmatos oti qa feroyme ena dikaiotero forologiko systhma. Kai sta plaisia aytoy qa yparxei dikaioterh forologhsh stis klhronomies, stis gonikes paroxes kai stis dwrees. Kai malista, h teleytaia anafora toy idioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy egine stis 13 Dekembrioy 2009, prokeimenoy na epanelqei ayth h forologhsh me proodeytikh klimaka kai malista me ychlo aforologhto orio. Kati, dhladh, poy shmainei oti qa elafrynqoyn ta xamhla kai ta mesaia eisodhmata, otan metabibazetai h perioysia toys. Ara, den yparxei kanenas aifnidiasmos. Apo kei kai pera, qa eprepe na breqei kapoios tropos na yparjei ayth h ryqmish kai malista, otan problepetai kai apo ton proypologismo poy katateqhke kai chfisthke gia to 2010, alla kai apo to Programma Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs. Synepws, qa eprepe na yparxei mia taxeia diadikasia. Kai epeidh to prwto nomosxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Oikonomikwn anamenetai na chfistei mesa sto Febroyario, eprepe na kerdisoyme xrono, etsi wste na yparxei ayth h ryqmish.

Kai qa anaferw kai mia allh parametro: Me dedomeno oti eixe proanaggelqei aytoy toy eidoys h forologhsh, exei parathrhqei swreia metabibasewn megalwn perioysiwn, gonikwn paroxwn dwrewn kai klhronomiwn, etsi wste na mporesoyn kapoioi polites oi opoioi diaqetoyn megales perioysies, na tis metabibasoyn sta paidia toys kai na wfelhqoyn apo ayto to diasthma. Ara, qa eprepe kai h Politeia na kinhqei sto plaisio ths prostasias ths forologias poy qa proekypte.

MIXAHL: (Den akoygetai) thn teleytaia parametro sas. Mhpws den qa eprepe na eixe proanaggelqei, dioti efoson to eixate proanaggeilei, logiko htan osoi qa diapistwnan oti qa plhrwnan megaloys foroys, na kinhqoyn grhgora gia na kanoyn tis metabibaseis. H afoy to proanaggeilate, giati amesws den to nomoqethsate, gia paradeigma sto nomosxedio gia to epidoma allhleggyhs sta mesa Dekembrioy;

PETALWTHS: Htan proeklogikh desmeysh kai eprepe opwsdhpote na ylopoihqei. Sto nomosxedio gia to epidoma koinwnikhs allhleggyhs den mphke, giati den eprepe na epibarynqoyn oi polites gia to 2009. Qa eprepe na symperilabei kai to 2009 kai kati tetoio den qelame na ginei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, alla twra me ayth thn tropologia kapoios o opoios hqele na kanei gonikh paroxh, dwrea h klhronomies, den jerei poso qa plhrwsei, giati den exoyn kaqoristei oi antikeimenikes ajies.

PETALWTHS: Gi` ayto leme oti einai proswrinh h ryqmish, proswrinos o foros poy epiballetai me ta shmerina dedomena. Kai h ekkaqarish qa ginei me thn kainoyrgia ryqmish, h opoia problepetai na ginei meta apo ton eyry koinwniko dialogo, etsi opws exei dromologhqei.

MIXAHL: Htan itamh h symperifora toy klimakioy twn empeirognwmonwn kai twn stelexwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas stis synanthseis toys me toys ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: Epeidh polla akoyme kai diabazoyme tis teleytaies hmeres me thn episkech toy klimakioy twn stelexwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, alla kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Kentrikhs Trapezas, h alhqeia einai oti den yparxoyn tetoies symperifores. Tetoies symperifores, oyte yphrjan, alla oyte qa ginontan apodektes apo thn ellhnikh Politeia kai thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. As mhn jexname oti h Ellada einai ena kyriarxo melos, apo ta palaiotera pleon melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, ena isxyro melos ths eyrwpaikhs oikogeneias. Synepws, den qa mporoyse na ginei anekth kapoia tetoia symperifora twn koinotikwn, h opoia, oytws h allws, den epedeixqh. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, yparxei ena elleimma ajiopistias, poy gnwrizoyme pws epidra sta oikonomika ths xwras mas. Ena elleimma ajiopistias poy ofeiletai sth diakybernhsh ths Neas Dhmokratias. Se ayto to plaisio ginetai kai h episkech kai h synergasia me to klimakio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

SABBOPOYLOY: Tote k. Petalwth, giati kapoia kybernhtika stelexh dhlwnoyn oti eniwsan ejeytelistika apenanti toys;

PETALWTHS: Kai egw to diabasa ayto, alla epeidh exw synomilhsei me ola ta kybernhtika stelexh, ta opoia briskontai ston kloio ayths ths synergasias, den yphrxe kamia tetoia epibebaiwsh. Malista, yparxei kathgorhmatikh diaceysh oti kapoio kybernhtiko stelexos ypesth tetoia symperifora. Antiqetws, as mhn jexname oti prokeitai gia ena klimakio poy apoteleitai apo texnokrates, oxi apo politikoys. Synepws, ta zhthmata poy syzhtoyntai einai texnokratika kai se ayto to epipedo paramenei h synergasia.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h diaboyleysh gia ton eklogiko nomo qa ginei apo mhdenikhs basews;

PETALWTHS: Yphrxe kai mia apanthsh toy armodioy ypoyrgoy Eswterikwn k. Ragkoysh. Emeis, exoyme desmeyqei proeklogika oti qa feroyme enan eklogiko nomo, o opoios qa einai dikaios, qa einai pio antiproswpeytikos, qa katoxyrwnei thn aytonomia ths politikhs. Kai malista, ton perigracame me oso pio safh tropo ginotan, prin apo tis ekloges. Sto plaisio ayto, to qetoyme kai qa yparxei mia dhmosia diaboyleysh. Diaboyleysh poy perilambanei, bebaiws, polites, foreis kai kommata -kyriws kommata- etsi wste se ayto to plaisio na yparxoyn ryqmiseis, tropopoihseis, protaseis, beltiwseis, gia na exoyme ena kalytero eklogiko systhma. Ayto einai to plaisio poy bazoyme kai mono mesa se ayto qa kinhqoyme.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Se ayto to plaisio, omws, deixnoyn na diafwnoyn ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Ara, o eklogikos nomos den qa isxysei apo thn epomenh eklogikh anametrhsh. Eiste symbibasmenoi me ayto;

PETALWTHS: As afhsoyme na yparxei dhmosiopoihmeno ena safes plaisio toy eklogikoy nomoy kai ekei na topoqethqoyn osoi prepei na topoqethqoyn me thn ypeyqynothta poy apaiteitai apo tis peristaseis kai apenanti sthn ellhnikh Politeia.

MPEQANH: Akoyme ston Typo, sta MME, dhlwseis ekproswpwn ergazomenwn. Sygkekrimena, shmera, toy proedroy ths ADEDY, oti ta metra ta opoia eishgeitai h kybernhsh exoyn adieykrinista shmeia kai oti ean yparjei perikoph se epidomata poy pairnoyn oi dhmosioi ypallhloi, qa yparjei, opws ypologizoyn, meiwsh stoys misqoys gyrw sto 3%. Pws skopeyei h kybernhsh na antimetwpisei ayto to klima dyspistias to opoio blepoyme na diamorfwnetai stoys kolpoys twn ergazomenwn, oson afora sta metra poy skopeyei na parei, na efarmostoyn;

PETALWTHS: Oi ergazomenoi agwnioyn gia thn tyxh toys. To idio kanei kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Gi` ayto akribws emeis anoijame th diadikasia ths dhmosias diaboyleyshs, toy koinwnikoy dialogoy, toy dialogoy me toys foreis, se ena baqos xronoy, etsi wste na ekfrastoyn oles oi agwnies, alla kai oles oi protaseis. Ta syndikalistika organa twn ergazomenwn ekfrazoyn thn agwnia toys, th dyspistia toys. Apo ekei kai pera, h kybernhsh, mesa apo th syzhthsh, prospaqwntas kai desmeyomenh -yparxei hdh desmeysh- oti qa prostateysei ta xamhla kai ta mesaia oikonomika koinwnika strwmata qa poreyqei pros ayto ton tropo.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Qelw na epanelqw ligo sto qema toy Asfalistikoy. Diabazoyme, shmera, oti h kybernhsh meleta -kai shmera to eipe kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy sthn prwinh ekpomph toy MEGA- gia to foro poy qa mpei sta asfalistika. Aytos o foros poioys qa afora; Pws qa kalyfqoyn, dhladh, ta elleimmata toy Asfalistikoy; Exete katalhjei; Giati fainetai oti kai edw h kybernhsh mallon mono protaseis zhtaei kai mono diarroes yparxoyn.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, den yparxei diarroh. Den yparxei apofash. Den yparxei katalhjh. Einai protash. Eimaste sto stadio twn protasewn. Kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy, shmera, etsi opws anafereste, eipe oti den yparxei kamia apofash. Einai mia protash poy einai sto trapezi toy dialogoy. Alla eilhmmenh apofash den yparxei. Safws kai den yparxei apofash. Eimaste sto epipedo twn protasewn kai twn syzhthsewn akomh. Ayto nomizw oti qa eprepe na epaineitai ws mia dhmokratikh diadikasia.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Wraia. Ayth h protash ti leei gi` ayto to foro; Poios qa plhrwsei foro, dhladh; Pws qa epiblhqei aytos o foros; Qa einai oi misqwtoi, oi eleyqeroi epaggelmaties, qa einai oloi;

PETALWTHS: Den prepei na protrexoyme se ena dialogo opoy ginetai se ena diaforetiko plaisio. O dialogos gia to Asfalistiko ejelissetai. Malista, yparxoyn kai faseis toy dialogoy gia tis phges xrhmatodothshs kai gia ta qesmika. Efoson oloklhrwqei o dialogos, qa anakoinwnontai kai oi protaseis kai ta metra. Alla eimaste sth fash toy dialogoy, o opoios den exei lhjei, eidika gia tis phges xrhmatodothshs poy einai h prwth fash.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy. Xqes, toylaxiston apo o,ti elegan oi plhrofories, oi koinotikoi oi opoioi, opws eipate eseis, den eixan ejeytelistikh symperifora pros toys ypoyrgoys, proteinan meiwsh twn syntajewn;

PETALWTHS: Oi koinotikoi ekanan kapoies protaseis. Ayta, omws, einai se epipedo protasewn kai skecewn twn koinotikwn. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis paroysiazoyme ena programma staqerothtas. Ayto to programma qa diamorfwqei en telei kai qa kriqei kai qa einai dikes mas oi apofaseis gia to ti qa perilhfqei sto Programma Staqerothtas. Mexri twra, isxyoyn oles oi desmeyseis. Kai menoyme ekei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite poy epimenw: Ara na katalaboyme oti oi koinotikoi ekanan protash gia meiwsh syntajewn, aplws h apofash, eseis mallon h thn aporricate h thn ejetazete.

PETALWTHS: As meinoyme se ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws, analogizomenoi bebaiws kai se ti ycos anerxontai shmera oi syntajeis sthn Ellada.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Nai, alla den lete oti h kybernhsh to aperrice . Ara to syzhtate.

PETALWTHS: Se ayth th fash briskomaste sto stadio ths synergasias me toys koinotikoys. Den anakoinwnoyme oyte to Programma Staqerothtas oyte kapoies allages oi opoies qa ginoyn. Omws, kai oi proeklogikes desmeyseis mas kai oi meteklogikes rhseis mas , isxyoyn.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na epanelqoyme ligo ston eklogiko nomo. Kai an oi antidraseis ths Antipoliteyshs einai profaneis kai einai kai dikaiologhmenes mexri enos baqmoy, yparxoyn antidraseis kai sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada toy PASOK omws, oi opoies siga-siga dhmosiopoioyntai. Ontws einai proeklogikh desmeysh toy PASOK aytos o eklogikos nomos kai h prowqhsh toy. Poy apodidete eseis aytes tis antidraseis twra;

PETALWTHS: Allazontas o eklogikos nomos kai to eklogiko systhma antilambanomaste oti briskomaste s ayth th fash, opoy akoma den exei katateqei sxedio eklogikoy nomoy, kai yparxei mia diaxyth agwnia, mia diaxyth amfisbhthsh me gonimo kai qetiko periexomeno kai apo ta alla kommata. Apo kei kai pera, otan ejeidikeysoyme emeis, ws kybernhsh, to sxedio nomoy kai thn protash, mallon, poy exoyme gia thn allagh toy eklogikoy systhmatos, qa lhfqoyn ypoch. Kai an anafereste poy anafereste stoys boyleytes toy PASOK, emeis o,ti kanoyme, to kanoyme se synergasia, me th symmetoxh twn boyleytwn toy PASOK, oi opoioi oytws h allws exoyn ki ena poly ayjhmeno logo stis kybernhtikes mas protaseis.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Aytos eklogikos nomos pote qa isxysei; Giati nwritera erwthqhkate alla den dwsate mia safh apanthsh: Oi epomenes ekloges qa ginoyn me ayton ton eklogiko nomo;

PETALWTHS: Einai safhs mas proqesh na ginoyn oi ekloges me ton epomeno eklogiko nomo. Xreiazetai, omws, mia eidikh pleiochfia gia na isxysei stis amesws epomenes ekloges kai einai qema twn kommatwn ths antipoliteyshs an qa ton chfisoyn kai ayta.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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