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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-02-19

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 19 Febroyarioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 252516794

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 19 Febroyarioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Shmera, oloi oi Ellhnes antilambanontai thn krisimothta ths periodoy poy dianyoyme.

Oloi oi Ellhnes antilambanontai oti h kybernhsh kai o Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy dinoyn kaqhmerinh maxh gia thn anatajh ths oikonomias mas, gia th beltiwsh ths eikonas ths xwras mas dieqnws, gia thn anakthsh ths ajiopistias mas kai thn isxyropoihsh twn qesewn mas. Einai mia polymetwph kai dyskolh maxh, thn opoia eimaste apofasismenoi kai eqnika ypoxrewmenoi na kerdisoyme.

Antimetwpizoyme tis xronies agkylwseis kai ta problhmata toy parelqontos, dinoyme maxh enantia stis praktikes toy prosfatoy parelqontos poy mas odhghsan se ayth thn katastash.

Gnwrizoyme poies praktikes kai poies politikes mas eferan ws edw kai eimaste apofasismenoi na allajoyme politikh rota. Na metatrecoyme thn krish se eykairia, opws exei pei epaneilhmmena o Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy, kai oloi oi Ellhnes sthrizoyn ayth thn pragmatika eqnikh prospaqeia.

Kentrikh strathgikh mas epilogh, gia thn asfalh ejodo apo thn krish, einai h efarmogh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs. Einai ena programma poly sygkekrimeno, me diypoyrgikes draseis poy diaxeontai se olo to fasma ths politikhs, ths oikonomikhs kai koinwnikhs zwhs ths xwras. Apo th nea eisodhmatikh politikh kai to forologiko systhma ews to neo anaptyjiako nomo poy qa erqei se ligo. Thn ayjhsh twn dhmosiwn dapanwn gia ependyseis kai thn aplopoihsh twn diadikasiwn kai epitaxynsh twn ryqmwn aporrofhshs toy ESPA, apo to neo asfalistiko kai th drastikh antimetwpish ths eisforodiafyghs, mexri th meiwsh dapanwn poy qa prosferei h hlektronikh syntagografhsh kai h nea politikh gia to farmako. Apo th meiwsh dapanwn sta ejoplistika programmata mexri thn oysiastikh oikonomikh enisxysh kai anasygkrothsh - ananewsh ths Paideias.

H ejodos, bebaia, apo thn krish den einai mia ypoqesh eykolh, oyte anwdynh. Einai, omws, epitaktikh anagkh.

Thn antilambanontai oi polites. Prepei na pame se allagh ekeinwn twn domwn kai qesmwn poy kallierghsan kai ypeqalcan ayto poy shmera biwnoyme. Einai, loipon, mia megalh eqnikh eykairia na allajei rizika h pragmatikothta ths xwras, toso ws pros th dieqnh ths eikona, oso  kai poly perissotero- pros ton tropo poy oi polites biwnoyn thn kaqhmerinothta toys kai tis sxeseis toy kratoys me thn koinwnia.

Gnwrizoyme ta laqh toy parelqontos, gnwrizoyme ta problhmata. Se ayth thn titania prospaqeia mas den zhtame xares, den zhtame daneika. Zhthsame kai labame thn aytonohth politikh sthrijh apo toys etairoys mas, kaqws kai to xrono gia thn ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs, wste na bgoyme apo to toynel ths krishs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw, ean se ayth thn kaqhmerinh maxh poy lete oti dinete, exete zhthsei kai thn arwgh ths EYP, symfwna toylaxiston me ayta poy diabazoyme kai kata to prosfato paradeigma kai ths Ispanias.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kapoia tetoia energeia, den yparxei kapoia tetoia apofash. Apo ekei kai pera, bebaiws, emeis kanoyme tis analyseis mas. Prospaqoyme kai ejakribwnoyme, me ton kalytero tropo, apo poy proerxontai ayta ta kerdoskopika paixnidia kai bebaiws h monh lysh, to mono antidoto se ayth thn kerdoskopia, einai h staqerh politikh grammh, thn opoia akoloyqoyme, mesa kyriws apo thn ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti o kosmos, oi polites antilambanontai ayth th megalh prospaqeia poy kanei h kybernhsh kai th sthrizoyn. Ayto poy den jeroyn akomh einai -kai einai nefelwdes- mexri poy qa paei ayto dhladh kai poia einai h ``kokkinh grammh'' poy bazei h kybernhsh. Mexri poy qa pane ayta ta metra, poy leme. Akoyme metra kaqe mera. Pote qa ta parete ayta ta nea metra; Prepei o kosmos na jerei, gia na sas sthrijei.

PETALWTHS: Ma, to qema einai oti emeis den milame gia metra. To qema einai oti akoyte, opws akoyme kai emeis gia metra. Emeis, ayto poy leme staqera kai to leme edw kai megalo xroniko diasthma, einai oti yparxei to Programma Staqerothtas, Anaptyjhs kai Anasygkrothshs ths xwras. Me bash ayto poreyomaste. Se ayto to programma exei apotypwqei h politikh mas, h ideologia mas, oi ajies mas, oi proteraiothtes poy qetoyme. Kai mia apo aytes tis proteraiothtes, fysika, einai, kyriarxh kai prwtarxikh: H prostasia toy adynamoy polith. Prospaqoyme na bgoyme apo thn krish kai qa to kanoyme, giati diaqetoyme isxyro politiko kinhtro kai boylhsh, xwris na qysiasoyme omws th stoixeiwdh, thn kaqhmerinh eyhmeria toy aploy Ellhna polith, thn opoia o idios exei katakthsei me toys agwnes toy, me th doyleia toy kai prospaqwntas, bebaia, na syneisferoyme sth beltiwsh toy epipedoy zwhs. Exontas gnwsh ths pragmatikothtas, me realismo kai sobarothta, gnwrizontas ti ginetai sto dieqnh xwro, gnwrizontas tis adynamies mas, gnwrizontas oti ayth th stigmh briskomaste se mia qesh adynamoy krikoy, prospaqoyme na swsoyme th xwra mas. Ayto kanoyme. Dinoyme mia poly megalh maxh, xwris omws na afhnoyme thn eyhmeria toy aploy Ellhna polith, sto eleos kapoiwn poy qa hqelan isws na th doyn kai diaforetika.

BLABIANOS: Antilambanomai plhrws to ti lete, para tayta, qelw na meinw sto ejhs: Filokybernhtikes efhmerides einai aytes poy grafoyn gia thn EYP, filokybernhtikh efhmerida einai ayth h opoia grafei gia ayjhsh sto FPA. Eseis menete sto Symfwno Staqerothtas. Ta diaceydete ola ayta; Giati qa prepei pragmatika na katalaboyme ti ginetai.

PETALWTHS: To lew kathgorhmatika. Den yparxei kamia tetoia skech pros to paron, den yparxei kamia apofash. Gnwrizoyme oti briskomaste se mia ejairetika dyskolh oikonomikh krish. Gnwrizoyme oti briskomaste se mia poly reysth katastash kai gi` ayto akribws eimaste epifylaktikoi gia na poyme kai perissotera pragmata. Tis arxes mas kai toys ajones ths politikhs mas, hdh toys exoyme qesei kai malista me megalh leptomereia, mesa apo to Programma Staqerothtas. Ayto einai to sxedio mas, ayth einai h taktikh mas kai ayth einai h politikh mas.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, fainetai omws oti ayto to Sxedio Staqerothtas to opoio exete ypobalei kai exei kat` arxhn egkriqei, den fqanei. Kai den to lew egw, to lene oi Eyrwpaioi. Aytoi hdh bgainoyn kai kanoyn anakoinwseis oti qa xreiastoyn kai peraiterw metra kai sas dinoyn telesigrafo mexri tis 15 Martioy na ta parete kai mexri telos Maioy na ta efarmosete. Aytoi lene oti ayto to Sxedio Staqerothtas, orismenes paradoxes toy, me bash toys dikoys toys ypologismoys, den stekoyn kai apo ekei prokyptei h syzhthsh oti einai pia monodromos o FPA kai o 14os misqos. Ti apantate se ayta;

PETALWTHS: Emeis apantame otan yparxoyn apofaseis tis opoies anakoinwnoyme. Emeis apantame oti mexri tis 15 Martioy qa ginei h ajiologhsh mias katastashs thn opoia diatrexoyme. Protoy kan ajiologhsoyme ti egine mexri tis 15 Martioy, xwris kan na exoyme ena sxediagramma oti mexri tis 15 Martioy yphrjan aytes oi kybernhtikes draseis  kai gnwrizete poly kala oti einai safhs h entolh toy Prwqypoyrgoy pros ola ta ypoyrgeia, na yparxei mia ajiologhsh ths katastashs twn ypoyrgeiwn se epipedo ylopoihshs toy Programmatos Staqerothtas mexri tis 15 Martioy  den mporoyme na milhsoyme peraiterw. Einai akairo kai den exei kanena nohma, isa-isa trofodotei alloy eidoys senaria. Isa-isa trofodotei alloy eidoys katastaseis eis baros ths ellhnikhs oikonomias, an milame twra gia metra, ta opoia afenos men den einai sth skech mas, afeteroy de, den einai apofasismena.

STRATAKHS: Epimenete sth 15h Martioy.

PETALWTHS: Nai.

STRATAKHS: Den yparxei periptwsh na allajei ayth; Giati blepoyme kapoia dhmosieymata kai plhrofories gia mia ebdomada nwritera, 7-8 Martioy, gia na prolabete endexomenws thn anakoinwsh h thn ``epibolh'' metrwn.

PETALWTHS: Ta dhmosieymata poy diabazw kai egw kai miloyn gia 7-8 Martioy, profanws anaferontai sto oti h ekqesh ajiologhshs isws xreiazetai na syntaxqei prin tis 15 Martioy. Den yparxei kaneis logos, oyte einai kybernhtikh grammh, xronikh grammh, h 7h kai h 8h Martioy. Apo to Symboylio Koryfhs ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs exei xaraxqei ws xroniko orio h 15h Martioy, gia na ajiologhqei h katastash kai h poreia ylopoihshs- toy Programmatos Staqerothtas. Kai ayth einai h monadikh proqesmia poy exoyme ws pros thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

MIXAHL: Pragmati, h qesh poy mas perigrafete  kai apanthsate kai sto synadelfo- einai ayth poy prosdiorise h Synodos Koryfhs. Pws ejhgeite omws to gegonos oti enw thn Pempth ayth th qesh prosdiorise h Synodos Koryfhs, thn Trith, treis meres meta, to ECOFIN allaje rota 180 moirwn kai apaithse, oyte ligo, oyte poly, poly pio sklhra metra. Dyo tina symbainoyn edw. H h mia den htan praktikh h h allh epeblhqh gia kapoioys logoys, toys opoioys sas parakalw, ean mporeite, na mas peite.

PETALWTHS: Einai ena qesmiko paradojo, alla na leei to Symboylio Koryfhs kai na perigrafontai kapws diaforetika. Den yparxei strofh 180 moirwn, aplws anaferontai kapoia prosqeta stoixeia apo to Eurogroup kai to ECOFIN, poy einai teleiws diaforetikh h leitoyrgia toy, allos o skopos kai allo to epipedo apofasewn. Opws antilambanomaste, sto Eurogroup kai sto ECOFIN egine mia ejeidikeysh ths katastashs ths oikonomias ths xwras mas. Ekeino, omws, poy isxyei gia mas einai h apofash toy Symboylioy Koryfhs. Ekei dwsame mia megalh maxh kai gnwrizoyme para poly kala, kai protoy pame sto Symboylio Koryfhs, tis poly megales, tis titanies prospaqeies poy ekane o Prwqypoyrgos Giwrgos Papandreoy kai oi opoies eydokimhsan kai perigrafhkan sta Symperasmata ths Synodoy Koryfhs. Briskomaste ekei.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite me tropo kathgorhmatiko na apokleisete th lhch prosqetwn metrwn ews tis 15 Martioy; Kai ena deytero erwthma: Prin apo ligo mas eipate oti tetoia senaria trofodotoyn alles katastaseis gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia  profanws ennoeite arnhtikes. Poies einai aytes; Qelete na mas tis perigracete;

PETALWTHS: Oi katastaseis, tis opoies zoyme kai biwnoyme, einai oti mesa apo ta senaria, yparxei polles fores kai ena paixnidi twn kerdoskopwn poy ekmetalleyontai ayta ta senaria. Emeis, ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme einai na apantame me ypeyqynothta kai sobarothta. Mexri stigmhs exoyme deijei oti exoyme th dynatothta, se poly syntomo xroniko diasthma kai me perissh sobarothta, na deijoyme oti h xwra mas diaqetei sxedio, taktikh kai strathgikh gia ejodo apo thn krish. Kai akribws ayth h dynatothta mas apotypwqhke sto Programma Staqerothtas. Egine dekto, egkriqhke apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh. Kai menoyme monon ekei.

MOYRELATOS: Mporeite na apokleisete th lhch epiprosqetwn metrwn mexri tis 15 Martioy;

PETALWTHS: Zoyme se mia reysth periodo kai qa mporoyme na apokleioyme kaqe wra kai kati ap` ayta poy akoygontai. Den yparxei qema oyte na diaceydoyme pleon  giati akoyme tosa polla- oyte na epibebaiwnoyme tipote. H monh eilhmmenh apofash einai to Programma Staqerothtas kai oti menoyme ekei. Den yparxei kanenas logos na probainoyme se diaceyseis toy kaqe senarioy poy akoygetai.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh blepw oti epimenete para poly sthn efarmogh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs, to opoio hdh exei egkriqei, ara einai kai gnwsto stoys Eyrwpaioys kai toys koinotikoys mas etairoys: Poio htan to periexomeno ths epistolhs poy esteile xqes o Giwrgos Papandreoy stoys ``27'';

PETALWTHS: Den esteile xqes thn epistolh. Thn esteile meta to Symboylio Koryfhs. Einai mia epistolh, sthn opoia dhlwne oti ektima th sthrijh twn Eyrwpaiwn etairwn mas se ayth thn poly megalh prospaqeia poy kanoyme. Mia sthrijh, h opoia apotypwqhke kai sthn apofash toy Symboylioy Koryfhs.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Me sygxwreite, alla apo to Megaro Majimoy mas lene oti periegrafe mesa sthn epistolh toy ta sxedia ths kybernhshs. Poia einai ayta; Den einai to Programma Staqerothtas;

PETALWTHS: Ayto akribws sas lew. Htan mia epistolh poy dhlwne thn ektimhsh se o,ti egine.

POLYMEROS: Diaceydete h epibebaiwnete tis fhmes gia kapoies ``mystikes synomilies'' ths kybernhshs me to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio gia ekdosh daneioy ycoys 35 disekatommyriwn eyrw;

PETALWTHS: Safws kai den yparxei tetoia prwtoboylia. Safws kai den yparxei tetoia symfwnia. Einai ena apo ta gnwsta senaria kai malista to akoyw pleon kai pio ejeidikeymeno.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Epeidh, opws eipate, einai mia reysth periodos, egw den qa sas zhthsw na diaceysete h na epibebaiwsete to senario ths katarghshs toy 14oy misqoy, alla an to ejetazete, an to meletate. Kai to lew ayto dioti prin apo ligo sth Boylh, o kaq` ylhn armodios ypoyrgos k. Papakwnstantinoy apefyge na topoqethqei jekaqara.

PETALWTHS: Ma, exoyme topoqethqei kata koron kai egw kai o k. Papakwnstantinoy. Pws qa milhsoyme gia kati to opoio den exei apofasisqei kai malista otan tiqetai ws protash apo kapoioys etairoys h kapoioys analytes; Emeis, omws, exoyme mia staqerh grammh kai taktikh: Einai h ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas kai monon.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mono ayth thn ebdomada, an den kanw laqos, diapistwsa oti stoys Financial Times, hmastan prwto qema toylaxiston dyo fores. Blepw mia periergh politikh apo agglosajwnikhs pleyras. Qa einai qema syzhthshs, shmera, toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Mpraoyn kai ton Milmpant;

PETALWTHS: Antilambaneste oti shmera o Prwqypoyrgos qa milhsei gia ola ta zhthmata poy aforoyn thn oikonomia kai th dieqnh krish. Katalabainete, to oti ``mpainoyme'' se kapoia dhmosieymata, den einai qema syzhthshs metajy arxhgwn kratwn h metajy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn ths Megalhs Bretanias. Emeis parakoloyqoyme ola ta dhmosieymata, oles tis analyseis. Kapoies ap` aytes tis analyseis, se topiko kai se dieqnes epipedo, pragmatika exoyn mia episthmonikh bash. Tis ajiologoyme. Kapoies alles, omws, exoyn alloys skopoys. Apo kei kai pera, einai sthn krish twn anagnwstwn. Kai bebaiws to paixnidi brisketai se mas kai mono, sthn ellhnikh kybernhsh, gia to kata poson sobara antimetwpizei ayth thn katastash.

GIANNISHS: Exei lhfqei apofash gia to pote qa paei sth Boylh to zhthma ths Ejetastikhs twn Pragmatwn Epitrophs gia thn oikonomia;

PETALWTHS: Opws sas eipa kai xqes, h apofash poy exei lhfqei einai oti qa zhthqei apo th Boylh na systaqei Ejetastikh Epitroph, gia na eimaste pio akribologoi. Apo ekei kai pera, o xronos kataqeshs akomh den exei apofasistei. Qa einai mia tekmhriwmenh protash gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs kai fysika o xronos syzhthshs, apo ekei kai pera, einai qema ths Boylhs poy qa apofasisei.

GIANNISHS: Qa moy epitrecete dieykrinistika: Epeidh o k. Papakwnstantinoy feretai na eipe xqes sth Boylh oti qa einai thn epomenh ebdomada. Isxyei kati tetoio;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti efoson yparxoyn ola ta stoixeia kai efoson einai apolyta tekmhriwmenh h protash gia th systash, den yparxei logos na mhn katateqei.

TZANETATOS: Isxyei oti o Prwqypoyrgos esteile apanthtikh epistolh ston k. Gkroyefski gia thn episkech toy sta Skopia; Kai an nai, ti periexomeno exei ayth;

PETALWTHS: Bebaiws. Yparxei apanthtikh epistolh. Thn epedwse, xqes, h ellhnikh pleyra pros thn pleyra twn Skopiwn. Kai apanta o k. Prwqypoyrgos oti qa mporoyse na ginei dekth h protash gia episkech sta Skopia. Mia tetoia episkech omws, prwta ap` ola qelei mia kalh proetoimasia kai bebaiws yparxoyn kai kapoies stoixeiwdeis proypoqeseis poy prepei na diasfalistoyn. Epishs, sthn epistolh ayth anaferei oti prepei o dhmosios logos kai twn dyo pleyrwn na einai pio prosextikos. Emeis, sthn prokeimenh periptwsh apeyqynomaste, bebaia, sthn pleyra twn Skopiwn. Kai h kalh geitonia proypoqetei bebaia kai alloy eidoys sxeseis.

XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ths systashs Ejetastikhs Epitrophs qa (den akoygetai) eisaggelikh ereyna; Kai ena deytero skelos, kai an epimenei h kybernhsh sto na ejetastei h periodos 2004-2009.

PETALWTHS: To periexomeno ths protashs gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, egw den mporw na to prodikasw apo twra. Otan qa katateqei, qa doyme kiolas to periexomeno, gia na fainetai kai to xroniko eyros toy ypo ejetash zhthmatos se poio xroniko orizonta qa ekteinetai. Apo ekei kai pera, h eisaggelikh ereyna einai kati anejarthto. Mporei parallhla na ginei kai h Ejetastikh Epitroph kai na proxwrhsei kai h eisaggelikh ereyna. Gnwrizoyme poly kala oti ayto to epixeirhma, oti oso exei armodiothtes o eisaggeleas den mporei na ginei Ejetastikh Epitroph, htan ena monimo epixeirhma ths Neas Dhmokratias, akribws gia na apofeygei tis Ejetastikes Epitropes, to opoio einai ewlo kai se pragmatiko kai se nomiko epipedo.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn wra ayth poy ginetai mia prospaqeia na perasoyme thn krish kai th dhmosionomikh, alla kai thn kerdoskopikh epiqesh poy dexetai h xwra, apergoyn oi telwniakoi kai yparxei kai apergia akoma kai sto ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, poy einai o basikos braxionas gia thn eisprajh esodwn, to Geniko Logisthrio toy Kratoys.

PETALWTHS: Opws gnwrizete, h apergia einai syntagmatiko kai nomiko dikaiwma sthn Ellada. Einai katoxyrwmeno edw kai para polla xronia. Apo ekei kai pera, ayto poy exoyme na poyme emeis einai oti se ayth th dyskolh stigmh poy pername gia th xwra, opws perigracate kai eseis, qa prepei na synaisqanqoyme oloi tis eyqynes mas. Kai h synaisqhsh twn eyqynwn einai ena shmantiko stoixeio, to opoio ajiologeitai shmera apo thn ellhnikh koinwnia. Qa ajiologeitai kai sto mellon, otan pragmatika qa blepoyme kai se istoriko orizonta to pws jeperasame ayth thn krish. Ara, nomizw oti thn eyqynh poy prepei na deixnoyme oloi mas, se politiko epipedo, se epipedo kommatwn, se epipedo dynamewn ths koinwnias, qa prepei na th deixnoyn kai oi epaggelmatikes omades, oi opoies prepei na antilhfqoyn, na antilhfqoyme oloi mas  kai einai mia protroph pros oloys mas- oti qa prepei na qysiasoyme kapoia pragmata, estw apo thn kaqhmerinothta mas kai qa prepei na einai pio proqymoi se aytes tis qysies aytoi poy exoyn mia amoibh pio pronomiakh apo kapoioys alloys.

PITTARAS: Eseis, omws, ti qa kanete gia na prostateysete toys polites; Giati aytes oi epaggelmatikes omades fainetai oti den synetizontai. Exoyme, ayth th stigmh, thn ypoqesh me ta kaysima kai fantazomai oti qa exete plhroforhqei kai eseis ta kerdoskopika paixnidia twn prathrioyxwn, me tis alloprosalles times poy bazoyn. Ti qa kanete eseis gia na prostateysete toys polites;

PETALWTHS: Me toys yparxontes mhxanismoys, oi opoioi safws kai den einai aytoi poy eprepe na einai, safws kai einai aytoi poy qeloyn sthrijh, yposthrijh, stelexwsh. Yparxei, omws, safestata h politikh boylhsh. Prospaqoyme na kanoyme toys elegxoys, etsi wste na meiwsoyme oso mporoyme thn kerdoskopia sta kaysima, poy einai ena poly sobaro zhthma. Kai den einai mono zhthma aytwn twn hmerwn ths apergias. Einai ena synoliko zhthma, giati gnwrizoyme poly kala oti oi foroi apo ta kaysima apoferoyn ena poly megalo meros twn esodwn toy kratoys. Kai epeidh gnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn problhmata, hdh ta ypoyrgeia Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn, probainoyn se ayth thn proetoimasia, etsi wste kai h apergia na lhjei, alla kai na prostateyqoyn oi polites apo kerdoskopikes epiqeseis poy ginontai apo kapoioys poy ekmetalleyontai akribws tetoioy eidoys apergies.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti apantate ston k. Samara, poy prin apo ligo sth Boylh milwntas sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada ths Neas Dhmokratias, eipe, oyte ligo, oyte poly, oti epeidh oyte problepete, oyte sxediazete, oyte apofasizete, oyte anazhtate tis eyqynes, katafeygete se Ejetastikh Epitroph;

PETALWTHS: To eipa kai xqes oti o k. Samaras kalo qa einai na koitajei to xqes, poy to xqes exei amesh synexeia kai synepeia me to shmera. Ean den htan melos kai ejexwn stelexos ths kybernhshs Karamanlh o k. Samaras kai an edeixne thn idia spoydh poy deixnei kai shmera, prospaqwntas na ``synetisei'' to PASOK, to ekane kai tote sthn kybernhsh Karamanlh, den qa eixame fqasei edw shmera. Pragmatika yparxei qrasos kai ypokrisia sth Nea Dhmokratia, shmera, poy anti na zhthsei sygnwmh, anti toylaxiston na siwpa, bgainei na kanei paraineseis kai na deixnei to dromo pros to PASOK. Kai malista eidame kai kati allo, na kataqetei kai protaseis me 7 metra, me 23 metra. Protaseis oi opoies hdh einai protaseis ths kybernhshs kai tis opoies qa eprepe na eixe skefqei tote, otan htan kybernhsh prin apo tesseris mhnes, kai fysika na exei mia teleiws diaforetikh symperifora, giati to mono poy katafernei h Nea Dhmokratia einai na ejorgizei ton ellhniko lao, akomh kai toys idioys toys chfoforoys ths.

MIXAHL: Exete pei se ola ta epipeda oti h Nea Dhmokratia exei thn apolyth eyqynh gia th diaxeirish ths ta teleytaia pente xronia, gia thn katastash poy brisketai shmera h xwra. Ta stoixeia poy exete brei sta ypoyrgeia, poy deixnoyn akribws ayth th kakodiaxeirish, ayth thn katastash poy mas odhghse mexri edw, giati den ta dinete sth dhmosiothta na jeroyme ti egine se kaqe ypoyrgeio kai apo ekei kai pera, as krinei o ellhnikos laos poioi kai posoi einai oi ypeyqynoi, poy hdh exei bgalei to symperasma toy, na doyme kai ta stoixeia.

PETALWTHS: Ayta ta stoixeia qa doqoyn me ton katallhlo tropo kai ston katallhlo xrono.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, den einai ligo alazoniko ayto poy eipate prohgoymenws, me tis protaseis ths Neas Dhmokratias; Kai eseis, kaqe ebdomada, ws antipoliteysh, kataqetate paketo protasewn kai qelate, h kybernhsh tote, na tis akoysei, na tis dei, na tis syzhthsei. Twra, giati a priori tis aporriptete kai lete oti einai anedafikes...

PETALWTHS: Den eipa oti einai anedafikes. Eipa oti ena megalo meros aytwn twn protasewn, hdh einai protaseis kai stoixeia ths taktikhs ths kybernhshs kai hdh ylopoioyntai. Kai ayto poy eipa einai oti qa eprepe aytes tis protaseis na tis skefqoyn tesseris mhnes prin, protoy fqasoyme se ayto to shmeio. Alliws, einai safes oti emeis epizhtame tis protaseis ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kyriws, tis protaseis olwn twn kommatwn kai olwn twn politikwn kai koinwnikwn forewn. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy milame, apo thn prwth stigmh, gia synainesh. Eimaste emeis aytoi poy den exoyme th stoixeiwdh alazoneia poy eixe h Nea Dhmokratia, enw qa eixame kai tis proypoqeseis, tis perissoteres, me mia koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia h opoia qa mas bohqoyse kai bohqa sto na pername aneta tis nomoqetikes mas prwtoboylies. Einai omws stoixeio ths sygkrothshs mas ws Kinhmatos, ws kommatos kai ws kybernhshs kai entolh fysika toy Prwqypoyrgoy poy diaxeetai kai thn ensternizontai kai ola ta kybernhtika stelexh, oti h alazoneia shmera safws kai den exei kamia qesh sthn kybernhsh toy PASOK, pragma poy to exoyme apodeijei kai me ta kratika aytokinhta kai me th symperifora mas ws proswpwn sthn kybernhsh kai me thn peristolh twn dapanwn kai sto pws genikws blepoyme thn ejoysia, dhladh teleiws antiqeta, apo oti thn eblepe h Nea Dhmokratia.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Ta politika kommata poy antidroyn sthn efarmogh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas, alla kai sthn epibolh newn metrwn, exoyn xasei thn epafh me thn koinwnia, opws yposthrije o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn sth Boylh;

PETALWTHS: Thn epafh me thn koinwnia thn antilambanetai kaqenas diaforetika kai ejartatai se pio meros ths koinwnias anaferetai. Emeis ayto poy leme me plhrh epignwsh, einai oti exoyme th sthrijh ths koinwnias. To blepoyme sthn kaqhmerinh mas praktikh, sthn kaqhmerinh epafh me foreis, me polites kai ayto nomizw oti to antilambanontai oi pantes.

Yparxei, omws, ena zhthma: Osoi shmera h den katalabainoyn h kanoyn oti den katalabainoyn, anti na sthrizoyn kapoies katastaseis, mallon exoyn zhthma epafhs me thn koinwnia. Ayto einai dedomeno.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, milhsate xqes gia tekmhriwmenh protash, aithma ths kybernhshs gia systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs. Mhpws se ayth thn tekmhriwsh qa prepei na symperilabete kai mia idiotyph ekstrateia peiqoys twn dikwn sas stelexwn, giati qa fqasoyme sto shmeio sto telos, basei twn plhroforiwn kai twn dhmosieymatwn, na caxnoyme poioi sthrizoyn ayto to aithma. Qa yparjoyn synedriaseis to epomeno xroniko diasthma diaqesmikwn organwn, en pash periptwsei, prokeimenoy etsi na deijete mia eikona pio arragh sthn kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei mia kaqhmerinh syzhthsh kai ena megalo pedio antallaghs apocewn ths kybernhshs, h opoia exei labei hdh thn apofash gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs, ths Koinoboyleytikhs mas Omadas, twn stelexwn toy PASOK kai h pepoiqhsh olwn mas einai oti h Ejetastikh Epitroph exei th sthrijh  kai qa thn exei th sthrijh- ths megalhs pleiochfias toy Kinhmatos. Einai mia sygkekrimenh politikh apofash. To oti yparxoyn kapoies epifylajeis, einai logiko, einai qemito. Emeis qeloyme na yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis, diaforetikes proseggiseis. Ayto, omws, den noqeyei kaqoloy ayth thn apofash mas, h opoia einai apofash toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai ths kybernhshs. Safws kai elabe ypoch tis opoies epifylajeis yparxoyn, oi opoies exoyn na kanoyn mono me to xroniko shmeio sto opoio katatiqetai h protash gia th systash Ejetastikhs Epitrophs.

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