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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-03-19

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 19 Martioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 257503837

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 19 Martioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, xqes, paroysiasthke to nomosxedio ths kybernhshs gia thn apokatastash ths forologikhs dikaiosynhs. Gia prwth fora, meta apo polla xronia, epixeireitai oysiastikh kai rizospastikh anatroph se epipedo forologikoy plaisioy, me stoxo thn arsh twn forologikwn adikiwn, thn patajh kai thn apoqarrynsh ths forodiafyghs. Gia prwth fora, me to nomosxedio ayto, epixeireitai kairio plhgma sthn paraoikonomia. Kairio xtyphma sta katesthmena kai tis paqogeneies poy epi xronia ypeqalpe kai synthroyse h prohgoymenh kybernhsh. Me nea, eniaia kai pio proodeytikh forologikh klimaka. Me shmantikes foroelafrynseis gia polloys apo toys sympolites mas me mesaia eisodhmata. Me arsh twn paralogwn adikiwn kai twn syntexniakwn ejairesewn.

Den yparxei kamia dikaiologia pleon, eidika se ayth thn katastash poy briskomaste, gia apofygh ypoxrewsewn.

Den yparxei kamia dikaiologia gia na mhn analabei o kaqenas apo mas thn eyqynh toy gia to synolo ths koinwnias. To neo dikaiotero forologiko plaisio einai mono ena prwto bhma.

Sthn olomeleia ths Boylhs chfisthke hdh, to nomosxedio toy ypoyrgeioy Eswterikwn, poy apotelei tomh sth dhmosia dioikhsh kai to opoio oysiastika qetei telos sto kommatiko alisberisi, stis anwteres baqmides ths dioikhtikhs ierarxias ths kratikhs mhxanhs kai diasfalizei apolyta ta stegana ths ajiokratias sto systhma anadeijhs proistamenwn sto dhmosio tomea.

Exoyme labei ola ta aparaithta metra. Exoyme proxwrhsei kai proxwrame se oles tis aparaithtes diarqrwtikes allages, sto kratos kai th leitoyrgia toy. Einai gegonos oti ws kybernhsh exoyme analabei ena ejairetika dyskolo ergo: Ayto ths ejodoy ths xwras apo th dinh ths dysmenoys dhmosionomikhs kai oikonomikhs sygkyrias, poy biwnei h xwra mas shmera, alla kai ths apokatastashs ths ajiopistias mas apenanti stoys Eyrwpaioys etairoys. Alla, qa ta kataferoyme kai ayto einai bebaio, synexizontas kai enteinontas tis prospaqeies mas gia ajiokratia, koinwnikh dikaiosynh, isotimh katanomh twn forologikwn barwn, anaptyjh kai proodo gia ton ellhniko lao.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, hqela na sas rwthsw, toylaxiston ap` o,ti blepoyme sto forologiko nomosxedio, h kybernhsh exei apofasisei na ayjhsei th forologia sto qema twn apozhmiwsewn gia tis apolyseis, se mia tetoia periodo;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, yphrxe qema forologhshs twn apozhmiwsewn gia tis apolyseis. Kriqhke oti qa prepei na yparjei mia diaforetikh ryqmish kai h periodos ayth einai mia periodos poy einai idiaiterh gia oloys mas. Einai gnwsto oti zoyme se katastaseis ektakths oikonomikhs anagkhs. Synepws, polles ap` tis apofaseis mas exoyn san gnwmona ayto to krithrio, to opoio einai bary gia kapoioys, alla einai ena krithrio poy qa apoferei esoda sto ellhniko kratos.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Dhladh, ti dikaio einai ayto to forologiko systhma otan ayjanei th forologia kai stoys anergoys h aytoi poy xanoyn th doyleia toys; Ante na ayjhseis th forologia se kapoion poy exei doyleia h se kapoion o opoios exei ena epaggelma, to katalabainoyme. Alla, na ayjanete th forologia se aytoys poy apolyontai; Einai dikaio ayto;

PETALWTHS: To forologiko systhma exei orismenoys ajones. Bazoyme ena forologiko systhma se leitoyrgia, poy einai ena kat` ejoxhn systhma koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs kai fysika, yparxoyn ryqmiseis oi opoies prepei na feroyn esoda sto kratos. Aytos einai o gnwmonas se mia seira apo polles ryqmiseis, aytoy toy forologikoy systhmatos poy eisagoyme me to forologiko nomosxedio. Diasfalizei thn koinwnikh dikaiosynh.

Ennoeitai oti ejairoyntai oi anergoi kai apo ta tekmhria diabiwshs. Synepws, safws kai eimaste yper twn adynamwn politwn. Alla, opoy yparxei sygkentrwsh eisodhmatos kai esodwn, qa prepei to kratos na exei kai esoda kai apo ekei.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h tetramhniaia ekqesh poy kanei h ``METRON ANALYSIS'' deixnei arketh mayrila. Qelete na to sxoliasete ligo;

PETALWTHS: Mayrila se ti;

BLABIANOS: Se para polla pragmata. Twra mhn arxisw kai ta ejeidikeyw ena, ena. Alla, pantws, yparxei enas megalos deikths apaisiodojias twn Ellhnwn, pleon.

PETALWTHS: H apaisiodojia toy Ellhna polith einai sigoyra dikaiologhmenh, apo th stigmh poy apokalyfqhke, edw kai pente mhnes, se ti megalh oikonomikh dinh exoyme breqei. Einai gnwsto oti h Nea Dhmokratia mas klhrodothse th xeiroterh katastash poy qa mporoyse na klhrodothsei mia kybernhsh se mia allh kai oloys aytoys toys mhnes prospaqoyme me enan titanio agwna, ws kybernhsh, na epanaferoyme th xwra mas sto dromo poy eixe kapote kai fysika se poly kalyteres synqhkes. Ayto einai dedomeno kai to antilambanetai o ellhnikos laos. Oso, omws, ginetai ayth h prospaqeia, se ayto to metabatiko stadio, oso anagkazomaste na laboyme mazi me tis megales qesmikes allages poy kanoyme kai apofaseis oi opoies einai akomh kai epwdynes gia ton aplo Ellhna polith, einai logiko oti h anasfaleia kai h agwnia toy aploy Ellhna polith, einai dedomenh. Emeis, ws kybernhsh, antilambanomaste to xreos mas, to kaqhkon mas kai thn eyqynh mas na antistrecoyme kai na anatrecoyme ayto to klima dyspistias kai agwnias. Ths dikaiologhmenhs agwnias toy Ellhna polith kai ths dyspistias pros to ellhniko kratos, me tis xronies paqogeneies. Bgainontas ap` ayth thn oikonomikh krish - giati qa bgoyme, emeis to eggyomaste ayto ws kybernhsh, dinoyme elpida kai aisiodojia ston aplo Ellhna polith- qa fanoyn kai oi megales qesmikes allages poy kanoyme. Oxi gia na jeperasoyme aplws, mia oikonomikh krish h mia krish qesmwn, alla na dhmioyrghsoyme ena diaforetiko kratos me apolyth empistosynh toy polith pros ayto kai antistrofa.

Ayth thn agwnia thn aisqanomaste, th symmerizomaste. Thn idia agwnia exoyme kai emeis. H idia agwnia mas diakatexei. Alla o Ellhnas poliths na einai bebaios oti olh ayth h skoteinh katastash poy epikratei shmera, qa anatrapei giati akribws yparxei boylhsh kai isxyrh qelhsh sthn kybernhsh na allajoyme ta pragmata. Kai ayto qa ginei.

POLYMEROS: Problhmatizei thn kybernhsh h ptwtikh tash poy paroysiazoyn ta noymera sthn protimhsh twn chfoforwn, apo 7-10, an den kanw laqos, einai h ptwsh ths kybernhshs, ta noymera ayta, kai an ayta ta noymera ephreazoyn genikotera tis apofaseis ths kybernhshs, einai to ena erwthma. Kai to deytero einai, poso konta brisketai apo tis arxikes stoxeyseis, ws kybernhsh kai den milaw gia tis proeklogikes, ws komma ths antipoliteyshs, alla tis prwtes hmeres ths diakybernhshs balate kapoioys stoxoys. Briskeste konta h makria ap` aytoys shmera;

PETALWTHS: Emeis briskomaste sthn arxh mias tetraetias. Mia tetraetias gia thn opoia o ellhnikos laos, me poly megalh diafora apo to deytero komma, th Nea Dhmokratia, mas edwse thn entolh na kybernhsoyme, na allajoyme th xwra. Aytos einai o monadikos mas gnwmonas sth leitoyrgia ths kybernhshs. Parakoloyqoyme tis dhmoskophseis kai mesa apo aytes thn agwnia toy aploy Ellhna polith, thn opoia symmerizomaste, alla kai thn poly megalh diafora h opoia dieyrynetai apo to deytero komma, to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Emas, omws, oi politikes mas stoxeyseis, to sxedio mas kai h strathgikh mas exei na kanei monon me ayta gia ta opoia exoyme desmeytei. Me ayto to programma poy kataqesame kai mas yperchfise o ellhnikos laos, me thn entolh poy mas edwse na bgoyme prwta ap` ayth thn krish kai na kanoyme tis poly megales qesmikes allages. To mono bebaio, einai oti h monh desmeysh mas einai ayth h entolh poy phrame kai ayth thn entolh akoloyqoyme.

Ws pros to deytero erwthma sas, einai antilhpto kai aytonohto oti polles apo tis apofaseis poy pairnoyme shmera, den einai apofaseis poy periexontai stis programmatikes mas desmeyseis, oyte apofaseis poy einai epilogh mas. Alla, zoyme se mia katastash ektakths anagkhs. Brhkame mia katastash teleiws diaforetikh. Poly xeiroterh ap` ayth poy perimene o kaqenas apo emas kai xreos mas einai twra na bgaloyme th xwra apo thn krish. Sygxronws, doyleyoyme gia oles tis megales qesmikes allages, oi opoies qa allajoyn to ellhniko kratos kai qa to feroyn sthn yphresia toy Ellhna polith. Ayta ta dyo emeis den ta jexwrizoyme. Ta doyleyoyme parallhla kai ergazomaste sklhra ws kybernhsh. Den xanoyme to stoxo mas kai me to grhgoro jeperasma ths ellhnikhs oikonomikhs krishs, qa fanoyn kai oi megales allages poy apofasisame kai hdh ylopoioyme.

BLABIANOS: Diabazw titlo efhmeridas ``Oi Germanoi mas wqoyn sto DNT''. Eseis symmerizeste ayton ton titlo;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na poyme gia allh mia fora: Poly megalh eyqynh gia th shmerinh katastash ths xwras exei h idia h xwra, ypo thn ennoia oti kyberniotan apo mia kybernhsh poy eide th diaxeirish ths ejoysias me ton pio egklhmatiko tropo. Me synepeia na zoyme th shmerinh poly dyskolh oikonomikh pragmatikothta.

Emeis, sto plaisio ths prospaqeias kai ths maxhs poy dinoyme -enos agwna o opoios pragmatika apodeiknyetai oti einai poly dyskolos, alla ejairetika shmantikos- prospaqoyme na anastrecoyme to asxhmo klima. Prospaqoyme na anakthsoyme thn ajiopistia ths xwras mas. Synepws, me ayton ton tropo kai se ayton to dromo poreyomaste. Apo kei kai pera, yparxei h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, yparxoyn oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, kaqe mia xwrista, oloi pairnoyme tis apofaseis mas. Kamia xwra den mporoyme na poyme oti mas ejwqei sto DNT.

Ekeino to opoio kanoyme mexri kai shmera - kai qa kanoyme kai mexri th Synodo Koryfhs stis 25 kai 26 Martioy- einai na peisoyme toys Eyrwpaioys etairoys mas oti pleon dikaioymaste kai thn yposthrijh toys, alla kai thn koinotikh allhleggyh. Oi opoies epifylajeis yphrxan - kai htan dikaiologhmenes ws ena baqmo- apo xwres - etairoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, pisteyoyme oti qa prepei na arqoyn, giati emeis phrame sklhres apofaseis. Phrame apofaseis gia qesmikes allages tetoies poy na eggywntai oti to ellhniko kratos einai pleon enas ajiopistos etairos, enas ajiopistos synomilhths. Arkei na to katanohsoyn oloi oi etairoi mas kai na katanohsoyn oti ayto to problhma den einai mono problhma ths Elladas. Einai problhma ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, einai problhma ths eyrwzwnhs. Emeis qeloyme na einai lysh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Fysika ejetazoyme oles tis dynatothtes, den qeloyme na fygoyme apo to plaisio poy qesame, dhladh ths politikhs sthrijhs apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Aytos o mhxanismos poy zhtame kai emeis, alla kai polles eyrwpaikes xwres na ginei gia thn eyrwzwnh kai gia to eyrw, yparxei periptwsh kai an syzhteitai to endexomeno na einai ena mikto systhma daneiodothshs, dhladh kai apo to DNT, alla kai apo orismenes xwres ths eyrwzwnhs;

PETALWTHS: Yparxoyn polles dynatothtes. Emeis ayto poy zhtame pros to paron einai safh kai rhth politikh sthrijh, etsi wste kai oi agores na paroyn to mhnyma oti pleon h Ellada einai xwra ajiopisth, oti h Ellada exei thn eggyhsh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs gia na pesoyn ta spreads kai na mporoyme na daneistoyme me ton tropo poy prepei na daneistoyme otan xreiastei. Apo kei kai pera, mporoyn na ejetastoyn polles dynatothtes. Emeis, omws, pros to paron qeloyme na meinoyme ekei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: H kybernhsh qa einai ikanopoihmenh sth Synodo Koryfhs ean epanalhfqei ayto poy egine sthn prohgoymenh Synodo Koryfhs kai den yparjei epipleon kai enas mhxanismos sthrijhs; Qa einai ikanopoihmenh mono apo mia dhlwsh, as poyme, opws eixe ginei kai sthn prohgoymenh Synodo Koryfhs h prepei na prosteqei kai o mhxanismos;

PETALWTHS: H Eyrwpaikh Enwsh exei ton tropo na kanei tetoia dhlwsh politikhs sthrijhs, na brei tetoion tropo politikhs sthrijhs poy na yparxei eggyhsh oti qa mporoyme na daneizomaste opws oles oi xwres ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. Apo kei kai pera, emeis epimenoyme, opws kai oi ypoloipoi etairoi mas bebaia, sth dhmioyrgia enos mhxanismoy sthrijhs. To exoyme pei polles fores kai to leme pantoy oti enas tetoios mhxanismos qa sthrijei oxi mono thn Ellada, ean xreiastei, alla kai opoiadhpote xwra ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs poy qa antimetwpisei paromoia problhmata me ayta poy antimetwpizoyme emeis shmera. Kai osoi parakoloyqoyme - kai anagkasthkame oloi oi polites na parakoloyqoyme pleon- kai tis oikonomikes kai politikes ejelijeis olwn twn xwrwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, antilambanomaste oti se ligo dystyxws qa yparjoyn kai alles xwres poy qa zhtoyn th sthrijh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs. H eyrwpaikh oloklhrwsh den mporei na einai mono mia nomismatikh oloklhrwsh. Prepei na exei ena safes politiko periexomeno. Kai se ayto to mhkos prepei na kinhqei sthn apofash ths h Eyrwpaikh Enwsh sth Synodo Koryfhs, stis 25 kai 26 Martioy.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Skeftetai h kybernhsh na anoijei to epaggelma twn tajitzhdwn; Diabazw oti xqes o yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn eipe kati analogo.

PETALWTHS: H apeleyqerwsh ths eswterikhs agoras hdh diamorfwnetai me nomosxedio ths kybernhshs. Apo kei kai pera, bebaia, yparxoyn ta kleista epaggelmata gia ta opoia yparxei mia syzhthsh, yparxei mia kateyqynsh kai ypoxrewsh apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh pros thn Ellada. Omws, kaqe periptwsh toy legomenoy ``kleistoy epaggelmatos'' einai jexwristh. Tiqentai zhthmata dhmosioy symferontos kai fysika kaqe periptwsh ejetazetai jexwrista kai na yparxei qema, qa ejetastei.

XASAPOPOYLOS: To rwtaw ayto, giati xqes o yfypoyrgos Oikonomikwn ayto poy eipe oti an den symmorfwqoyn oi idiokthtes twn taji me ta nea forologika metra ths kybernhshs gia toys tajitzhdes, oysiastika skeftetai na parei kai alla metra, me to pio sklhro metro na einai h apeleyqerwsh.

PETALWTHS: Den mporw na dianohqw oti qa yparxei Ellhnas poliths poy qa pei oti den symmorfwnetai me tis oikonomikes apofaseis mias kybernhshs. Oloi oi Ellhnes polites exoyme ypoxrewsh na symmorfwqoyme, oso kai an einai epwdyno gia thn tseph mas kai malista otan ayth h kybernhsh eggyatai oti ayta ta forologika barh katanemontai me ton pio dikaio tropo. Gi` ayto exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws oti einai wra eyqynhs gia oloys mas. Den yparxei periptwsh na sygxwreqei h ypoxrewsh katabolhs foroy apo kanena sympolith mas. Kai nomizw oti einai isxyro deigma patriwtismoy, ayth th stigmh, na analaboyme oloi tis eyqynes mas, anejarthta se poia epaggelmatikh omada anhkoyme.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Diabazw se efhmerides oti xqes mesa sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio yphrxe megalh ekplhjh apo toys ypoyrgoys gia thn topoqethsh ths ypoyrgoy Oikonomias k. Katselh, h opoia, toylaxiston apo o,ti lene oi plhrofories stis efhmerides, epi 30 lepta anelye ti prepei na ginei sto forologiko nomosxedio kai ti anaptyjiakh diastash qa yparxei. Exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto;

PETALWTHS: H k. Katselh einai melos toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy, einai ypoyrgos Oikonomias, dikaioytai na exei tis apoceis ths.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Epeidh akribws oloi oi ypoyrgoi desmeyqhkate na ferete tis protaseis mexri th Deytera, thn Trith poy qa ginei ayto to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio. Eklambanei kapws alliws h kybernhsh ayth thn topoqethsh ths k. Katselh;

PETALWTHS: Ws kybernhsh mas endiaferei h oysia. Mas endiaferei ola ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy na syneisferoyn me ton tropo poy mporoyn na syneisferoyn. Ola ta melh toy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy gnwrizoyn poly kala pws qa syneisferoyn kai eidika sto qema ths anaptyjhs, poy einai to zhtoymeno.

GARGALAKOS: Exw dyo erwthseis: H mia afora mia ekkremothta apo thn prohgoymenh enhmerwsh, ean sto periodiko FOCUS xrwstame xrhmata apo diafhmish.

PETALWTHS: Xrwstame...

GARGALAKOS: Epeidh mas exei peripoihqei, lew.

PETALWTHS: Apo thn enhmerwsh poy exw, h oikonomikh ofeilh toy EOT pros to germaniko periodiko FOCUS anerxetai sto poso twn 264.817 eyrw kai afora diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis, entypes kai hlektronikes, dyo mhnwn, kata to 2008. Ayth einai h enhmerwsh poy exw. Ws gnwston, h Nea Dhmokratia ektos apo ta alla poy mas klhrodothse, mas klhrodothse ena terastio xreos kai ston EOT. Kai enw o EOT qa eprepe na einai h diafhmish ths xwras mas kai h probolh toy kalyteroy proswpoy ths xwras mas, exei ginei, me th diaxeirish ths Neas Dhmokratias kai me tis terasties ofeiles poy mas afhse, h xeiroterh dysfhmish poy qa mporoysame na exoyme ws xwra. Kai ayto den afora mono stis diafhmistikes kataxwrhseis poy ofeiloyme se polla periodika kai efhmerides ston kosmo, alla kai sta grafeia toy EOT sto ejwteriko, opoy mas apeiloyn me ejwseis kai katasxeseis. Kai apo ayto apodeiknyetai poso swsth diaxeirish eixe h Nea Dhmokratia, h opoia dystyxws, akomh milaei shmera gia diaxeirish kai mas ypoballei kai protaseis ws pros aythn.

GARGALAKOS: Meta th xqesinh parembash toy Prwqypoyrgoy, sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, eimaste pio makria h pio konta sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio;

PETALWTHS: Sto Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio, eimaste toso konta kai toso makria, oso hmastan pantote. Kai to lew ayto, giati to Dieqnes Nomismatiko Tameio einai aplws mia dynatothta. Dikh mas proteraiothta einai na exoyme thn politikh sthrijh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - ayto mas arkei - me tetoio tropo, etsi wste na mporoyme na daneistoyme, otan kai opws prepei na daneistoyme. Ejetazoyme, omws, oles tis dynatothtes, giati h xwra mas exei anagkes daneiodothshs - einai gnwstes oi anagkes ths- oi opoies qa prepei na kalyfqoyn. Kai fysika, exoyme ``ierh'' ypoxrewsh, apenanti sthn oikonomia kai thn tseph toy ellhnikoy laoy, na prostateysoyme to eisodhma toy, me tetoio tropo, wste na mas apagoreyei na daneistoyme me toys tropoys poy daneizomastan mexri twra.

POLYMEROS: H k. Katselh den qa eprepe na htan sthn proxqesinh ektakth syskech sto Megaro Majimoy, apo th stigmh poy htan oloi oi ypoloipoi ypoyrgoi poy exoyn sxesh me thn oikonomia; Gnwrizete kati gia thn apoysia ths apo th syskech;

PETALWTHS: Prwta apo ola, aytes oi syskeceis einai atypes. Den einai typikes kai apo oso gnwrizw, h k. Katselh eixe allh ypoxrewsh ekeinh thn wra.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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