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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-01-28

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Paraskeyh, 28 Ianoyarioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 313148021

Ekdosh 1

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 28 Ianoyarioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

H kybernhsh apo tis prwtes hmeres kaleitai na antimetwpisei mikres h megales kriseis. Apodeijame kai synexizoyme na apodeiknyoyme pws otan yparxei politikh boylhsh, apofasistikothta kai cyxraimia, stoixeia poy diaqetei h kybernhsh, tote mporoyme na apotrecoyme eknomes katastaseis poy kalliergoyntai apo kapoioys oi opoioi epiqymoyn apla kai mono th dhmioyrgia xaoys kai entypwsewn.

Yperaspisthkame kai yperaspizomaste thn ennomh tajh kai to kratos dikaioy, alla parallhla kai thn asfaleia twn anqrwpwn aytwn, poy peftoyn qymata mias adiejodhs katastashs, poy kapoioi toys epifylajan.

Oi nomoi yparxoyn, kaneis den einai yperanw toy nomoy kai isxyoyn gia oloys akribws, me ton idio tropo. Eimaste apofasismenoi na perifroyrhsoyme thn efarmogh kai thn thrhsh toys.

Qa hqela na ejarw thn cyxraimia kai th synesh poy epedeijan oloi oi ypoloipoi emplekomenoi: Oi panepisthmiakes Arxes, h Astynomia me thn cyxraimia ths, alla kai oi politikes dynameis, wste na lhjei omala to epeisodio, xwris na epibebaiwqoyn akraia senaria.

Tis teleytaies hmeres ejelissontai shmantikes epafes toy Prwqypoyrgoy G. Papandreoy kai toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn, k. Papakwnstantinoy, sto Ntabos. O Prwqypoyrgos eixe shmantikotates epafes me dieqneis paragontes, pistopoiwntas gia allh mia fora, thn allagh ths eikonas kai thn proodo poy exei syntelestei sth xwra, thn teleytaia xronia. Arkei kaneis na qymhqei ti antimetwpish eixe h Ellada perysi sthn antistoixh synanthsh, opoy hmastan to ``mayro probato'', mia xwra sta proqyra ths xreokopias, plhrws anypolhpth.

Wstoso, me thn apofasistikothta, thn entonh dieqnh kinhtikothta toy Prwqypoyrgoy G. Papandreoy kai th boylhsh ths kybernhshs gia allages kai me tis qysies toy Ellhna polith poy epiasan kai pianoyn topo, oloi mazi allajame ayth th dramatikh katastash. Apo kyrio problhma, perysi, tetoio kairo, fetos eimaste foreas kai syndiamorfwths twn ejelijewn kai kyriws ths lyshs enos genikoteroy paneyrwpaikoy problhmatos. Katorqwsame se elaxisto xroniko diasthma kati poy oloi qewroysan apiqano: Na baloyme epiteloys se mia seira ta dhmosionomika mas. Na prowqhsoyme shmantikotates domikes kai diaqrwtikes allages, asfalistiko, forologiko, forodiafygh, diafaneia, poy synexizontai akomh kai poy pragmatika allazoyn to proswpo ths xwras.

Stekomaste sto elleimma diafaneias kai to elleimma orqhs diaxeirishs, sto opoio en pollois ofeilontai polla apo ta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyme, ws xwra. Antimetwpizoyme pleon ayta ta problhmata drastika, me apokleistiko gnwmona to eqniko kai dhmosio symferon kai th makroproqesmh eyhmeria toy Ellhna polith.

Diaceysame ws eqnos kai qa synexisoyme na to kanoyme, oles ekeines tis Kassandres poy proejofloysan kai poly syxna ependyan sthn katastrofh mas. Proxwrame me orama kai sygkekrimeno sxedio sth qwrakish ths xwras, ths oikonomias, ths koinwnias kai twn qesmwn poy thn diepoyn, me tetoion tropo, wste na mh breqoyme jana se paromoia qesh.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SPANOY: Dhladh, h kybernhsh emmenei sthn apoch ths oti den tiqetai qema katarghshs toy asyloy, allaghs toy nomikoy plaisioy, para thn protash poy kateqese h N.D.;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, nomizw oti h N.D. qa prepei na mas jekaqarisei ti apoch exei gia to asylo, ena nomo poy hrqe epi twn hmerwn ths. O k. Samaras bghke kai eipe oti einai kata toy asyloy, to eipe dhmosiws, ston Proedro ths Dhmokratias. Hrqan omws meta, alla stelexh toy, opws o armodios tomearxhs Paideias ths N.D., k. Sphliwtopoylos, poy eipe oti to asylo einai asylo kai argotera, parenebh kai o k. Lykoyrentzos sth dhmosia syzhthsh ths N.D., gia na pei oti o k. Samaras den ennooyse thn katarghsh toy asyloy, alla th mh katastrathghsh toy. As katalhjei, loipon, h N.D. ti qewrei prwta gia to asylo gia na mporoyme na syzhthsoyme epi ths protashs ths. Emeis ayto poy leme, einai oti yparxei safes qesmiko, nomiko plaisio. O,ti ginetai, den ginetai epeidh den yparxei nomiko plaisio, yparxei kai einai plhres, to qema einai, ean ayto to nomiko plaisio efarmozetai. Emeis ayto, akribws, prospaqoysame na kanoyme aytes tis hmeres kai ayto eixame zhthsei apo ton Prytanh kai apo tis panepisthmiakes Arxes, na diagnwsoyn thn katalysh toy asyloy. To problhma den einai nomiko kai opoios to blepei apla ws nomiko, ypotima thn pragmatikothta. To qema einai na efarmozetai o nomos kai malista na efarmozetai o nomos kai sto politiko asylo. Epitrecte moy na ypenqymisw ayto poy eipa kai xqes, oti apo to Martio toy 2010 h ypoyrgos Paideias, k. Diamantopoyloy, eixe zhthsei apo oles tis prytanikes Arxes, olhs ths xwras, na kaqorisoyn opws problepei o nomos toys xwroys opoy isxyei to panepisthmiako asylo, opoy ayto einai jekaqaro: Oti isxyei gia toys xwroys opoy ginetai ereyna kai didaskalia, etsi wste na mhn yparxei kamia parekklish kai kamia antilhch poy den einai swsth gia to xwro, ara kai gia thn efarmogh toy asyloy. Perimenoyme akomh tis protaseis kapoiwn panepisthmiakwn idrymatwn.

BLABIANOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ean moy epitrepete, epi toy yparxontos nomikoy plaisioy kateqese prin apo ligo tropologia h N.D. Ep` aytoy, exete kapoio sxolio;

PETALWTHS: Gnwrizw oti qa kateqete tropologia, thn opoia omws den exw dei akomh. H prohgoymenh apanthsh moy aforoyse th dhmosia syzhthsh metajy twn stelexwn ths N.D., oles aytes tis hmeres. Alla, sas anefera thn apoch kai thn antilhch ths kybernhshs gia to qema toy asyloy.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eyqynes qa anazhthqoyn gia olh th diadromh ayth ths ypoqeshs, mexri na fqasoyme sth Nomikh kai thn katalhch ths epi penqhmeroy. Giati, mporei to olo egxeirhma na stefqhke me epityxia, alla katalabainete kai eseis oti yparxoyn sygkekrimenes eyqynes, sygkekrimenwn pleyrwn gia ptyxes ayths ths ypoqeshs. Qa anazhthqoyn h telos kalo, ola kala kai to jexasame;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, den exei teleiwsei. Kataferame kai katorqwsame to akrws epiqymhto. Na egkataleicoyn to ktirio ths Nomikhs oi metanastes kai oloi aytoi poy toys ebalan ekei kai phran ayto to poly megalo risko, oxi mono gia thn asfaleia twn politwn ths xwras mas, alla kai gia thn asfaleia twn idiwn twn metanastwn kai synepws einai ypeyqynoi gia o,ti egine ekei mesa. Alla apo ekei kai pera, einai gnwsto oti h Dikaiosynh - giati einai apokleistika armodiothta ths Dikaiosynhs - kanei mia diereynhsh, mia prokatarktikh ejetash,an den kanw laqos, kai malista se anwtato epipedo, etsi wste na ejakribwqei ean yparxoyn poinikes eyqynes kai na apodoqoyn. Fysika einai jekaqaro oti o nomos qa prepei na efarmostei gia oloys. Ean apo thn ereyna apodeixqoyn eyqynes kai pros toys metanastes, ennoeitai oti qa efarmostei o nomos. Alla den yparxei kanenas symbibasmos me thn anomia, den yparxei kanenas symchfismos kai den yparxei kamia logikh oti afoy efygan apo th Nomikh exoyn jexastei ta panta. Einai poly jekaqaro to ti diakybeythke aytes tis hmeres, to ti kindynos yphrxe. Ep` oydeni, fysika, qa prepei na ginei paradeigma pros oloys osoi, nomizoyn oti me ekbiasmoys, alla kai me th bia - giati oi morfes bias einai diafores - mporoyn na ekbiasoyn thn ellhnikh Politeia.

PITTARAS: Qa hqela, an mporeite, na mas jekaqarisete kapoia pragmata, giati ayto poy exei perasei, toylaxiston, xqes brady me oles tis diapragmateyseis poy htan se ejelijh, oti to olo qema eixe mplokarei sth diapragmateysh poy htan se ejelijh, me enan idiwth o opoios etyxe ena sygkekrimeno ktirio sto kentro ths Aqhnas kai o opoios th mia elege ``dinw ta kleidia na anoijei gia na mpoyne mesa'' thn allh elege oti ``ayrio na anoijei kai o panw orofos, na parw kai thn proika moy apo panw'' kai telos pantwn hsastan se mia diapragmateysh gia to poioi orofoi qa anoijoyn, pote qa anoijoyn, poios qa toys prostateyei, ean einai kaqaros o xwros, ean exei mprizes klp. Telika, nomizete oti h eikona ayth sas tima, kat` arxhn; Kai deyteron, poios qa plhrwsei to enoikio gi` ayto to ktirio; Giati den pisteyw oti o sygkekrimenos idiwths diapragmateyotan me thn kybernhsh epi pente wres, etsi gia thn cyxh ths manas toy.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, na jekaqarisw oti h katastash einai poly pio synqeth ap` o,ti fainetai apo mia prwth matia. H diaxeirish ths apaitoyse poly megalh cyxraimia kai synesh, h opoia epideixqhke, kai synama akra apofasistikothta gia na mhn parermhneyqei tipote. H kybernhsh eixe sygkekrimenoys stoxoys. O stoxos htan na egkataleicoyn to ktirio ths Nomikhs Sxolhs. Apo ekei kai pera, h kybernhsh den diapragmateythke me kanenan idiwth kai me kanenan idiokthth ktirioy. To Panepisthmio anelabe na proteinei kapoio xwro, etsi wste na metastegastoyn kai na egkataleicoyn to ktirio ths Nomikhs. Alla kai ayto safws kai den htan eykolo. Htan mia dyskolh katastash. Emeis otan eidame oti yparxoyn tetoioy eidoys zhthmata, opws ayta poy qesate, ws Politeia proteiname na metegkatastaqoyn proswrina sto xwro toy Ellhnikoy, opoy yphrxe h analogh ypodomh, akribws gia na mporesoyn na fygoyn apo th Nomikh kai na lhjei ayth h anomia h opoia ektylissotan aytes tis treis hmeres. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Ayto kaname, ayto diaxeirizomastan. Parallhla to Panepisthmio me tis Arxes toy, fysika, diaxeirizotan olo ayto ton tropo metegkatastashs. Moy dinete thn eykairia na pw - epeidh kai xqes kyriws se kapoia thleoptika diktya kai safws den egine epithdes apo kanenan - aneferan oti oi metanastes qetoyn treis oroys. H kybernhsh, h Politeia genikotera, otan antimetwpizei polites poy paranomoyn - asxeta ean einai polites ayths ths xwras h oxi - den dexetai oroys kai proypoqeseis. Yphrxe mia paranomia mesa sth Nomikh kai den yphrxe periptwsh na diapragmateyomaste me oroys. Ayto kaname, kai ayto einai jekaqaro. H apofasistikothta mas htan ayth kai fanhke. Kai apodeixqhke oti otan yparxei sxedio, otan yparxei cyxraimia, alla kai gnwsh toy ti qeloyme na ginei, yparxoyn kai apotelesmata. Kai mexri stigmhs, ta apotelesmata ayths ths katastashs fainetai oti einai qetika.

PITTARAS: Sygnwmh poy epimenw. Apla den moy dwsate apanthsh se ena sygkekrimeno kommati ths erwthshs, poios qa plhrwsei gia to sygkekrimeno ktirio kai profanws tis opoies zhmies ypostei h otidhpote allo.

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa oti einai qema toy Panepisthmioy. H kybernhsh, to kratos den diapragmateythke me ton idiwth. Nomizw oti to paraxwrei aytos o idiwths. Apo ekei kai pera, nomizw oti to Panepisthmio einai armodio na sas apanthsei.

PIKOYLAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, giati den prokriqhke h lysh toy Ellhnikoy, afoy to neoklasiko ktirio ths odoy Hpeiroy brisketai poly konta ston Ag. Pantelehmona, opoy ginontai polles ekrhjeis bias kata twn metanastwn kai bebaia dipla einai kai ta Ejarxeia, opoy kai ekei exoyme ekrhjeis anarxoaytonomwn omadwn. Ama symbei kati den qa exei eyqynh h kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxoyn apagoreymenes perioxes sthn Aqhna. Yparxei astynomeysh. Den diapragmateyomastan me oroys. Yphrxe opws sas eipa mia proparaskeyh apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs gia ktirio sto Ellhniko. Aytoi, omws, oi opoioi prospaqoyn na podhgethsoyn toys metanastes - einai sympolites mas kai malista gnwstoi, oi opoioi briskontan oles aytes tis hmeres kai briskontai mazi toys- den toys afhnan, den dexontan na pane sto Ellhniko, giati akribws, profanws hqelan na briskontai sto kentro ths Aqhnas gia kapoio allo logo. Emeis, ws Politeia eixame etoimo metabatiko sxedio. Oson afora thn paroxh politikoy asyloy gia toys metanastes, qa efarmostei o nomos. Enas nomos poy hrqe prin liges hmeres apo to ypoyrgeio Prostasias toy Polith kai chfisthke sth Boylh kai poy prwth fora bazei tajh, syntetagmenh katastash sth metanasteytikh politikh ths xwras mas. Gia prwth fora h xwra mas apokta syntetagmenh metanasteytikh politikh. Anejarthta poy briskontai ayth th stigmh, o nomos qa efarmostei.

KOYTRAS: Kat' arxas, nomizw oti aytodiaceydesqe, dioti egine diapragmateysh apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, kaqws proteinate to ktirio toy Ellhnikoy. Kai deyteron, antilambanomai na milate oti eixe qetikh ekbash me thn ennoia oti den yphrxe epembash ths Astynomias, omws edw yparxei ena allo qema: Ayto poy egine einai oti aplws efygan apo th Nomikh kai phgan kapoy alloy, gia 15 hmeres malista, einai proswrinh lysh. Ti qa ginei meta tis 15 hmeres;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap' ola, den yparxei aytodiaceysh. Den dexomastan oroys. Ean parakoloyqoysate to reportaz, qa blepate oti prospaqoysan na qesoyn oroys...

KOYTRAS: Milhsate gia to Ellhniko.

PETALWTHS: Qa parakaloysa na mhn me diakoptete.

KOYTRAS: Proteinate - eipate- neo ktirio.

PETALWTHS: Sas parakalw na me afhsete na apanthsw.

KOYTRAS: Bebaiws.

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti ean parakoloyqoysate to reportaz, ayto poy ``paizotan'' oti yparxoyn oroi gia na diapragmateyqoyme, den htan alhqeia. Den diapragmateyomastan me oroys. Ayto htan jekaqaro. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis eixame etoimh enallaktikh lysh na pane sto Ellhniko gia na fygoyn apo th Nomikh. To zhtoymeno htan na fygoyn apo th Nomikh oi metanastes mazi me oles aytes tis omades poy htan mazi toys kleismenoi ekei. Kai epeidh edw yparxei kratos kai den leitoyrgoyme me to qymiko h gia na sas to proekteinw akomh perissotero, den peftoyme kai den pesame sthn pagida na askhsoyme bia, me tetoio tropo wste shmera h Aqhna na kaigetai - kai ayto einai poly shmantiko kai qa prepei na to laboyme yp' och - gi' ayto eixame kai enallaktikh protash. Den diapragmateyomastan kai den dexqhkame oroys gia na fygoyn oi metanastes, me osoys toys akoloyqoyn oles aytes tis meres, sth Nomikh. Ara, to antikeimeniko apotelesma einai oti egkateleican enan panepisthmiako xwro, egkateleican ton xwro opoy katapatoysan to asylo, afoy arqhke to asylo kai ayth th stigmh ta pragmata einai kalytera. Epanalambanw oti qa thrhqei o nomos. Ara, prolaba thn eylogh aporia sas, ti qa ginei se 15 meres. Kai gnwrizete, epishs, oti to kratos diaqetei kai ta ergaleia efarmoghs. Kai osoi doyn ayton ton nomo, osoi ton diabasoyn, qa doyn kai poia einai h klimakwsh toy nomoy, ws pros tis synepeies.

KOYTRAS: Na synexisw ligo sas parakalw; Dhladh, qa pane kapoia organa ths politeias, kapoioi ypeyqynoi ths politeias, ths kybernhshs h en pash periptwsei oi armodioi qa pane se 15 meres s' aytoys toys 237 poy einai ekei, qa doyn poioi exoyn ta aparaithta xartia gia na paroyn asylo kai sth synexeia osoi den ta exoyn, qa apelaqoyn;

PETALWTHS: O nomos einai safhs kai den mporw na prokatalabw th diaxeirish toy zhthmatos apo edw kai pera, giati antilambaneste oti sxedio safws kai yparxei, alla qelei kai mia sygkekrimenh leitoyrgia diaxeirishs.

BLABIANOS: Syggnwmh gi' ayto poy qa rwthsw, alla eseis mas eipate pro oligoy oti aytoi oi opoioi podhgetoyn -kai oi opoioi einai gnwstoi- toys sygkekrimenoys anqrwpoys, toys odhghsan, toys kaqodhghsan se sygkekrimeno ktirio toy kentroy ths Aqhnas, enw eseis eixate kati allo sto myalo sas, na toys pate pros to Ellhniko.

PETALWTHS: Syggnwmh, sas eipa oti toys odhghsan sth Nomikh.

BLABIANOS: Ara, dexqhkate kapoioys oroys.

PETALWTHS: Toys odhghsan sth Nomikh.

BLABIANOS: Oxi, eipate prohgoymenws, ektos ki an kanw terastio laqos - to shmeiwsa - oti aytoi poy toys podhgetoyn toys odhghsan pros to kentro ths Aqhnas, hqelan na pane pros to kentro ths Aqhnas, kapws etsi to eipate.

PETALWTHS: Loipon, na jekaqarisw ta pragmata, ean den egina safhs. Emeis eipame oti einai qema toy Panepisthmioy kai to Panepisthmio - gi' ayto eipa oti yparxei poly shmantikh symbolh twn panepisthmiakwn Arxwn - anelabe na brei kapoio xwro na metastegastoyn, prokeimenoy na apemplakoyn apo to ktirio ths Nomikhs. Kai ayto egine. Otan omws blepame oti yphrxan antikeimenika zhthmata - kapoia apo ta opoia eqese kai o synadelfos sas o k. Pittaras - emeis, ws ypeyqynh Politeia, eprepe na broyme mia lysh h opoia htan h enallaktikh lysh. H lysh ayth htan to Ellhniko. Kai htan h lysh poy protaqhke otan fainotan oti to ktirio poy paraxwroyse o idiwths den proxwroyse ws lysh. Ef' oson dhmioyrghqhke to zhthma kai epanhlqe h protash gia to ktirio sto opoio telika phgan, den yphrxe qema na pane sto Ellhniko. H boylhsh omws ths kybernhshs htan ef' oson den yphrxe allo ktirio na stegastoyn, na pane sto Ellhniko. Ayth htan h proetoimasia.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, s' olo ayto to penqhmero entopisate kybernhtikes eyqynes gia thn katalhjh ths ypoqeshs kai thn ejelijh ths;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti h katalhjh ayths ths ypoqeshs, etsi opws exei shmera, apedeije peritrana oti h kybernhsh kai h Politeia genikotera skefqhke, sxediase, apofasise kai ylopoihse me tetoio tropo to sxedio, etsi wste na apofygoyme akomh kai aimatoxysia kai na mhn dwsoyme labh se oloys aytoys poy hqelan kai poy isws qeloyn akomh, na dhmioyrghsoyn eknomes katastaseis se olh thn Aqhna. To sxedio ayto fainetai oti thrhqhke kai apodidei me ton kalytero tropo. Synepws, to na milame gia eyqynes, adikei oloys osoi eneplakhsan.

MOYRELATOS: Me sygxwreite, kyrie Ekproswpe, mexri na fqasoyme xqes sthn aisia ekbash ths sygkekrimenhs ypoqeshs, kapoioi anqrwpoi efygan apo ta Xania, ekanan tajidi mexri ton Peiraia, efqasan ston Peiraia kai meta phgan sth Nomikh jhmerwmata ths Kyriakhs. Gia ola ayta, den yparxoyn kybernhtikes eyqynes;

PETALWTHS: Prwton, gnwrizete oti h kykloforia twn politwn h mh ths xwras mas, einai eleyqerh sthn Ellada kai fysika kai to na tajideyoyn. Deyteron, yparxei mia metakinhsh paranomwn metanastwn, oi opoioi einai para polloi - gnwrizoyme oti einai ekatontades xiliades - kai ekei den mporoyme na poyme oti apagoreyoyme thn metakinhsh toys. Ayto einai epishs jekaqaro. Triton, olh ayth thn katastash, eimaste h monh kybernhsh poy prospaqoyme, epixeiroyme kai fainetai oti mporoyme na thn ``koymantaroyme'', akomh kai me tetoia metra poy den skefqhke pote kamia kybernhsh, etsi wste na apagoreysoyme, na apotrecoyme thn eisodo toys sth xwra. An, meta apo olo ayto to pragma kai m' ayto to apotelesma, kapoioi caxnoyn na broyn politikes eyqynes, as analogistoyme poio einai to ofelos apo tis prajeis ths kybernhshs mexri twra kai poio einai to terastio elleimma allwn politikwn dynamewn sto parelqon, alla kai th stash kapoiwn s' olh ayth thn katastash. Einai mia krish megalh poy th diaxeirizomaste me ta kalytera apotelesmata.

KOYTRAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw kati: Edw, omws, den einai mia metakinhsh 5 anqrwpwn. Einai 250 anqrwpoi synodeia Ellhnwn - toys katonomasate xqes, nomizw - oi opoioi toys kateyodwsan, toys apoxairethsan sta Xania, toys ypodexqhkan ston Peiraia, to ploio, ap' o,ti apodeixqhke apo ta plana poy epaijan xqes stis thleoraseis htan gemato pano kai den egine tipote, den anoije royqoyni. Den exei kapoios eyqynh;

PETALWTHS: To oti ``den anoije royqoyni'', eseis to lete arnhtiko ki egw to lew qetiko. As perimenoyme na teleiwsei olh ayth h istoria gia na doyme pws qa katalhjei.

KOYTRAS: Ennow, ean yparxei eyqynh stis yphresies.

PETALWTHS: Egw to lew ki alliws omws to ``royqoyni''. Apo ekei kai pera, ayth h ypoqesh den exei kleisei. Ta zhthmata poy yfistantai einai para polla. Kai mexri stigmhs, to oti den ``anoije royqoyni'', opoy qa mporoyse na ``anoijei royqoyni'' sta Xania, sas to lew teleiws qewrhtika, nomizw oti einai pros qetiko proshmo ths kybernhshs kai oxi arnhtiko.

PITTARAS: Exete skefqei na epanejetasete ton tropo leitoyrgias kai ton rolo twn Mh Kybernhtikwn Organwsewn, kyriws sto kommati poy afora ston tropo xrhmatodothshs toys kai poy akribws xrhsimopoioyn ayta ta xrhmata; To lew me aformh tis plhrofories oti aytes einai poy plhrwsan ta eisithria gia na metakinhqoyn aytoi oi sygkekrimenoi metanastes.

PETALWTHS: Oi plhrofories kai oi fhmes poy akoygontai einai para polles. Akomh kai xqes poy diaxeirizomastan ayth thn krish, akoygame pragmata ta opoia ypotiqetai oti ta apofasize h kybernhsh, xwris kan na ta exei syzhthsei h akoygame gia dhqen stash kybernhtikwn organwn, h opoia safws kai den yphrxe. Kata synepeia, tetoioy eidoys plhrofories kai fhmologies, toylaxiston egw den mporw na sxoliazw. Apo ekei kai pera, polles anqrwpistikes organwseis, akomh kai s' ayth thn ejodo apo th Nomikh Sxolh, prwtostathsan kai bohqhsan parexontas iatrofarmakeytikh periqalch, probainontas se eyergetikes prajeis pros toys metanastes kai en genei synebalan sthn ektonwsh ths krishs. Synepws, to na symchfizoyme genikws gia tis Mh Kybernhtikes Organwseis, pisteyw pws adikei ton idio ton qesmo. Apo ekei kai pera, kai gia tis MKO isxyoyn ayta poy isxyoyn pleon sthn Ellada: Oti kamia kataspatalhsh akomh ki enos eyrw den ginetai anekth. Yparxei kai qa yparxei plhrhs elegxos se o,ti exei na kanei me dhmosio xrhma kai fysika ap' ayth th logikh kai praktikh mas den qa mporoysan na jefygoyn kai oi MKO.

KOYTRAS: Fobaste mhn breqoyn mimhtes;

PETALWTHS: Mimhtes qa briskontan, ean den kaname tipota, ean diapragmateyomastan me anqrwpoys oi opoioi kaqe allo para metanastes htan kai fysika, ean diname deigmata oti emeis anexomaste thn anomia. Emeis kanoyme akribws ta antiqeta. Kai leme oti qa yparxoyn kai akribws ta antiqeta apotelesmata. Kamia mazikh nomimopoihsh. To eipame jekaqara apo thn prwth stigmh, otan kapoioi mas elegan ``mhn to lete, giati den qa mporeite na diapragmateyqeite me aytoys toys metanastes''. Emeis hlqame se epafh - o ypoyrgos Prostasias toy Polith k. Xrhstos Papoytshs, oso xrono briskontan aytoi oi paranomoi metanastes sth Nomikh - me tis metanasteytikes organwseis poy ekproswpoyn thn poly megalh maza twn metanastwn edw sth xwra mas, oi opoioi malista anaferqhkan kai sth glwssa toys, etsi wste na ginontai antilhptoi apo toys sympatriwtes toys. Kai analysame poia metanasteytikh politikh akoloyqoyme, ti kanoyme kai ti qa kanoyme gia toys nomimoys metanastes. Mimhtes sthn anomia den qa anexqoyme na breqoyn, giati akribws den dexomaste thn anomia. O nomos einai jekaqaros. Epanalambanw oti gia prwth fora mpainei ena telos s' ayto to panhgyri ths paranomias poy yphrxe me tis ekatontades metanastwn na mpainoyn mesa xwris katagrafh twn stoixeiwn toys, na kataklyzetai o topos kai na kindyneyoyn prwta ap' ola oi idioi oi paranomoi metanastes apo tis katastaseis aytes kai fysika na mhn qerapeyetai to dhmosio kai eqniko symferon. Ayto einai jekaqaro oti den ginetai pleon anekto, gi' ayto bazoyme kai tajh kai se nomiko, alla kai se praktiko epipedo.

SPANOY: O k. Papakwnstantinoy sto Ntabos dhlwse oti einai ypo syzhthsh h epanagora ellhnikoy xreoys, piqanotata me daneio apo to Eyrwpaiko Tameio Xrhmatopistwtikhs Staqerothtas. Qelw na rwthsw, ean, ef' oson epibebaiwnetai pleon ayto apo thn kybernhsh epishma, ayto to neo daneio dhladh qa ginei xwris oroys.

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti o k. Papakwnstantinoy se mia synenteyjh toy eipe kati, oti yparxei h idea gia th syzhthsh ths epanagoras. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis leme oti einai mia dhmosia syzhthsh sthn opoia den symmetexoyme ayth th stigmh. Ta senaria poy kykloforoyn einai polla. Emeis, sth monh syzhthsh poy symmetexoyme einai h epimhkynsh ths apoplhrwmhs toy xreoys twn 110 dis eyrw kai menoyme ekei.

Eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako. --1427249692-1483502035-1296254524=:24858--


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