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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-02-15

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 15 Febroyarioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 316509804

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 15 Febroyarioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Synexizoyme mia titania prospaqeia gia thn ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish. Oi qysies pianoyn topo kai ajiopoioyntai pros ofelos twn Ellhnwn politwn. Ta apotelesmata ths politikhs mas kai ths prospaqeias poy ginetai apo thn kybernhsh einai orata kaqe hmera, pleon.

Na qymisw s' ayto to shmeio ti elegan dieqneis kai egxwrioi paragontes, gia th dyskolia kai thn krisimothta ths egkrishs ths 4hs doshs toy programmatos kai fysika toys diaceysame oloys gia akomh mia fora. Phrame thn egkrish gia thn 4h dosh me epityxia kai me ta pleon egkwmiastika sxolia olwn gia thn prospaqeia toy ellhnikoy laoy kai thn apofasistikothta ths kybernhshs.

Shmera eixame allh mia trimhnh dhmoprasia entokwn grammatiwn, opws gnwrizoyme, akomh pio epityxhmenh apo tis prohgoymenes. Antlhsame 300 ekatommyria eyrw me epitokio 3,85% poy einai kai to xamhlotero apo ton Dekembrio toy 2010. H zhthsh yperkalyfqhke 5 fores me to pososto symmetoxhs twn jenwn ependytwn na fqanei sto 62%.

Gia thn kybernhsh, aytoy toy eidoys ta test ajiopistias einai poly shmantika. Ayta apodidoyn thn aparxh mias neas pragmatikothtas, mias katastashs diaforetikhs apo to parelqon kai apoteloyn safeis endeijeis ths kalhs mas poreias kai ths apodotikothtas twn politikwn mas.

Eimaste se kalo dromo. Synexizoyme thn prospaqeia mas. Allazoyme thn eikona, alla kai thn pragmatikothta ths xwras mas. Kai eimaste sigoyroi oti qa synexisoyme na diaceydoyme oles tis dieqneis kai egxwries Kassandres, se kaqe eykairia.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KOYTRAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw ean ayta ta 50 dis, gia ta opoia milame apo thn Paraskeyh gia thn troika, einai desmeysh apenanti sthn troika h oxi.

PETALWTHS: Na jekaqarisw gia allh mia fora oti h ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias poy balame san stoxo, enan poly megalo stoxo endeiktiko alla me realistikes kateyqynseis kai poy deixnei akribws ton prosanatolismo ths politikhs ths kybernhshs, alla kai to poso petyxhmena phgame mexri twra gia na mporoyme na anebazoyme toys phxeis stoys stoxoys mas, einai apofash kai monon ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs.

KOYTRAS: Qelw na dieykrinisw an einai desmeysh. Ektos apo apofash, to katalabainw, einai desmeysh oti mexri to 2015 qa exoyn mpei sto syrtari, gia thn apoplhrwmh twn xrewn toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy, 50 dis eyrw;

PETALWTHS: Desmeysh pros poioys;

KOYTRAS: Pros ton ellhniko lao, pros thn kybernhsh, pros toys etairoys mas. Giati kai o k. Gioynker to idio anefere xqes.

PETALWTHS: Oti;

KOYTRAS: Ta anefere pali ta 50 dis.

PETALWTHS: Nai. Oxi gia pwlhsh, bebaia, opws bghke xqes. Kai bghke teleiws strebla.

KOYTRAS: Oxi gia pwlhsh.

PETALWTHS: Gia ajiopoihsh. Ekeino to opoio exoyme na kanoyme kai einai desmeysh mas, einai na prospaqhsoyme pragmatika na allajoyme -kai ayto kanoyme- ekeines tis synqhkes kai ekeines tis katastaseis, wste epiteloys ayth h anajiopoihth dhmosia perioysia toy ellhnikoy laoy, poy se polles periptwseis, ektos apo anajiopoihth einai kai mia perioysia poy thn lymainontai kai diafora symferonta, ef' oson akomh einai akatagrapth kai hdh twra exei jekinhsei h diadikasia ths katagrafhs, meta apo polles-polles dekaeties, einai na ajiopoihqei -oxi na poylhqei, oyte na ekpoihqei, alla na ajiopoihqei opws exoyme ypoxrewsh ws Politeia na kanoyme- pros ofelos twn Ellhnwn politwn. Den mporoyme na exoyme ypobalei toys Ellhnes polites se qysies, oi opoies pragmatika htan prwtognwres kai na afhnoyme ap' ejw thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias, poy einai epitaktiko kaqhkon kai einai kaqhkon olwn mas, etsi wste ayth h perioysia na apokthsei epiteloys esoda, na exoyme kai eisodhmata apo ayth thn ajiopoihsh ths perioysias. Ayto einai desmeysh mas.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na synexisw thn erwthsh toy synadelfoy: Einai desmeysh h sygkomidh 50 dis eyrw ews to 2015, pros toys daneistes mas; Kai an den petyxoyme ton stoxo ayto, h kybernhsh qa anazhthsei alloys tropoys gia na yperkalycei ayto poy den exoyme petyxei; Einai desmeysh yp' aythn thn ennoia, loipon;

PETALWTHS: Egw sas eipa me poia ennoia einai desmeysh. Makari na eimaste se qesh kai na desmeyqoyme, oti ayta ta 50 dis qa ta broyme. Ayto qa edeixne kai qa deijei thn apofasistikothta mas. Alla h desmeysh einai desmeysh apenanti ston ellhniko lao, na kanoyme ta panta, etsi wste sto megalytero pososto dynatothtas na ejoikonomhsoyme ayta ta 50 dis apo thn ajiopoihsh ths anajiopoihths kai polles fores xamenhs dhmosias perioysias.

MOYRELATOS: Ara, kyrie Ekproswpe, den exoyme analabei kapoia ypoxrewsh...

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa.

MOYRELATOS: Den exoyme analabei kapoia sygkekrimenh ypoxrewsh apenanti stoys daneistes mas.

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa. Apanthsa prohgoymenws.

SIDERHS: Pro oligoy o k. Prwqypoyrgos eipe ``proteinw nomo gia na apanthsoyme me prajeis, se kaqe kaloproaireto kai kakoproaireto, oti h dhmosia gh den poylietai''. Dyo erwthseis: Qa qelate na mas prosdiorisete sto eswteriko poioi einai oi kakoproairetoi; To prwto. To deytero, qa exei kai anadromikh isxy aytos o nomos; Dhladh enas Agglos syntajioyxos poy exei elqei sthn Ellada kai exei parei ena xwrafaki kai aytoy qa apagoreyetai na katexei ellhnikh gh; Pws qa prosdioristei ayto, ean poylietai kai se ti megeqos, se ti baqmo h gh ths xwras;

PETALWTHS: Oi apories sas einai swstes kai logikes ws pros to texniko meros, to opoio safws kai qa prosdioristei. Prwta ap' ola oi nomoi den exoyn anadromikh isxy kai ennoeitai oti opoios katexei dhmosia perioysia, opoios katexei perioysia me nomimo tropo, den prokeitai na amfisbhthqei. Ektos ean yparxei paranomia. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, exoyme ypoxrewsh na katoxyrwsoyme, apo th stigmh poy jekinhsame na ginetai kai h katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias, na thn katoxyrwsoyme. Kai einai shmantiko ayto poy exei ejaggeilei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na mhn yparxei kai kamia amfisbhthsh.

Ws pros to poioi einai oi kakopistoi sto eswteriko, gnwrizoyme oti einai oloi aytoi poy diakinoyn oti h ajiopoihsh einai pwlhsh, oi opoioi akomh kai shmera prospaqoyn ceydepigrafa na taytisoyn thn ajiopoihsh me ekpoihsh kai me xaristikes ekpoihseis ths ellhnikhs dhmosias ghs, kati poy safws kai den symbainei. Kai kyriws ayto, qa prepei na to antilhfqei kai h N.D.. Giati mesa se poly qolo topio erxetai na mas kataggeilei oti emeis poylame dhmosia perioysia, otan h idia miloyse gia 50 dis mesa se dyo xronia. Kai shmera amfisbhtei kai zhta na analogisqoyme poy qa broyme emeis ta 50 dis mesa se 5 xronia. Emeis jekaqarizoyme, to exoyme jekaqarisei, aytos o stoxos einai endeiktikos, einai stoxos poy deixnei ton prosanatolismo mas, einai stoxos akribws poy deixnei to poso shmantika bhmata kaname mexri twra. Kai fysika einai kai realistikos, me dedomeno oti qa synexisoyme na kanoyme oles ekeines tis kinhseis, wste na ajiopoihqei epiteloys h dhmosia perioysia me ton pio nomimo kai symferonta tropo gia to ellhniko dhmosio, fysika. Gia tis texnikes leptomereies kai ths nomoqetikhs ryqmishs, alla kai ths syntagmatikhs protashs poy kateqese o Prwqypoyrgos shmera, fysika, yparxoyn polles ekdoxes. Yparxoyn pollwn eidwn akinhta sth dhmosia perioysia kai sigoyra qa yparxoyn ryqmiseis poy qa ta jedialynoyn ola.

SIDERHS: Stoys kakoproairetoys aytoys, ektos apo th N.D. entassete kai epixeirhmatika kai ekdotika symferonta;

PETALWTHS: Pantws, yparxoyn symferonta, ta opoia pragmatika lymainontai th dhmosia perioysia shmera kai ta opoia qa stamathsoyn na th lymainontai.

SPANOY: Mporeite na mas ejhghsete giati daimonopoieite thn ennoia ths pwlhshs; Dhladh, an yparjei mia symferoysa protash gia ekpoihsh ellhnikhs perioysias, giati thn apokleiete ek twn proterwn; Me poio skeptiko;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, den thn daimonopoioyme, alla eimaste ypoxrewmenoi apo to Syntagma kai apo toys nomoys toy kratoys th dhmosia perioysia na thn prostateyoyme. Kai fysika den yparxei periptwsh na poylame kai na jepoylame dhmosia perioysia. Thn ajiopoioyme. H dhmosia perioysia einai kthma toy ellhnikoy laoy. Den xreiazetai na poylhsoyme, giati akribws yparxoyn polles dynatothtes gia ajiopoihsh. Yparxoyn toses dynatothtes na ajiopoihsoyme th dhmosia perioysia, poy estw kai ena meros toys an eixe ajiopoihqei mexri twra, den qa ftaname se ayto to shmeio shmera na milame gia dhmosia perioysia. Fysika den qa xreiastei pote na milhsoyme kai gia pwlhsh. Einai polles oi dynatothtes ajiopoihshs, wste h pwlhsh na einai enas tropos ton opoio apokleioyme.

GARGALAKOS: Par' ola ayta poy lete, k. Ekproswpe, egw diabaza shmera ena prwtoselido ston ``Eleyqero Typo'', poy leei: ``Pwlhthrio se 598 nhsia bazei o Papandreoy''. Ti lete, ep' aytoy;

PETALWTHS: Ean htan dhmosieyma, aplws mias efhmeridas, den qa to sxoliaza, ean kai qa elega oti einai kaystiko. Einai kati poy den exei sxesh me thn pragmatikothta. Kai epeidh, anaferetai se mia meleth poy ekane ton Noembrio toy 2010, to ISTAME, opoy poyqena den anaferetai pwlhsh nhsiwn. To antiqeto - thn exw mprosta moy thn meleth - s' ekeino sto opoio anaferetai h meleth poy exei kanei to ISTAME, poy qa eprepe na eixe ginei apo to ellhniko Dhmosio, to ellhniko kratos polles dekaeties prin, gia na mhn ftasoyme na milame shmera gia xamenh dhmosia perioysia kai sthn kalyterh periptwsh gia anekmetalleyth, einai gia to istoriko kai gia ta problhmata ajiopoihshs nhswn toy Dhmosioy. Milaei mono gia ajiopoihsh. Milaei gia anagkh na yparxei ena eidiko epixeirhsiako sxedio poy qa katagrafei kai qa ajiologei tis epiptwseis h opoia ajiopoihsh twn nhsiwn. Den anaferetai tipota, den anaferetai poyqena pwlhsh nhsiwn. Ayto einai kati poy to kykloforei h N.D. h opoia fysika qa eprepe na apologeitai oxi aplws gia to oti den ajiopoihqhke h dhmosia perioysia, alla eidika h N.D. exei apodeijei sta xronia poy kybernoyse pws ennoei thn ajiopoihsh. Einai gnwsto oti polles ektaseis kai ektaseis fileta toy ellhnikoy dhmosioy doqhkan xaristika se batopedinoys kai se ergolaboys oi opoioi akomh kai shmera katexoyn aythn thn dhmosia perioysia. H istoria toy kaqenos mas einai gnwsth. Kai den milame gia palia istoria. Milame gia poly prosfato politiko parelqon, molis pro dyo xronwn, opoy h N.D. pragmatika edwse ejetaseis sto pws antilambanetai thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias kai ayto to apedeije me ton kalytero tropo sthn ypoqesh twn batopedinwn.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie ekproswpe, eipate prohgoymenws oti einai terasties oi dynatothtes ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias. Anarwtiemai omws, oti peripoy enamish xrono poy to PASOK brisketai sthn kybernhsh giati den exei anaptyjei aytes tis dynatothtes. Kai kati deytero, sto idio qema. Eipate oti o stoxos twn 50 dis einai endeiktikos, epomenws ean to 2015 aytos o stoxos ftasei sta 30 dis h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa einai ikanopoihmenh; to idio kai oi elegktes mas;

PETALWTHS: Qa jekinhsw apo to deytero erwthma sas. H ajiopoihsh twn 50 dis gia th dhmosia perioysia einai sto sxedio enos mesoproqesmoy programmatos ajiopoihshs twn oikonomikwn dynatothtwn mas. To 2013 teleiwnei to mnhmonio, ara kai o elegxos twn elegktwn mas, opws eipate, ths troikas, teleiwnei ekei. Oi armodiothtes toys teleiwnoyn ekei. Apo ekei kai pera omws kai to oti emeis proxwrame kai ftanoyme mexri to 2015 einai endeiktiko akribws, to oti antilambanomaste, thn ellhnikh oikonomia na phgainei poly pio mprosta ap oti mexri twra. Bhma pros bhma, mhna pros mhna, to poly xrono pros xrono. Kanoyme makropnoa kai mesomakroproqesma sxedia kai gi' ayto akribws zhthsame kai th synainesh kai twn ypoloipwn kommatwn, oxi synainesh stis dikes mas protaseis alla eqnikh synennohsh. Na kaqisoyme katw, kybernhsh kai kommata kai na baloyme oloi mazi tis politikes mas etsi wste na mporesoyme mexri toylaxiston to 2015 na exoyme ena programma poy qa desmeyei oxi mono thn paroysa kybernhsh poy oytws h allws exei sygkekrimena syntagmatika oria, alla na dinei ton prosanatolismo kai oxi th desmeysh, fysika, kai pros tis epomenes kybernhseis opoies kai ean einai. Emeis etsi to antilambanomaste. Den einai qema elegxoy apo kapoioys elegktes ths troikas h opoiasdhpote troikas.

Ws pros to prwto erwthma sas. Milhsa gia paqogeneies dekaetiwn. Edw kai para polles dekaeties, apo thn katabolh toy ellhnikoy kratoys - qa tolmoysa na pw - h dhmosia perioysia einai teleiws ston aera. Ena terastio tmhma ths mexri kai shmera exei katapathqei. Den gnwrizoyme pio einai to katapathmeno tmhma kai pio to eleyqero. Gnwrizoyme aplws ta sygkekrimena akinhta poy yparxoyn alla den yphrxe katagegrammenh h dhmosia perioysia , etsi wste na arxisoyme thn ajiopoihsh ths. Emeis jekinhsame na kanoyme tis meletes gia thn katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias me thn proslhch eidikwn symboylwn kai se aythn thn kateyqynsh kinoymaste. Malista exei mpei xronodiagramma oti mexri ton Ioynio toy 2011 - kai einai apofash ths Diypoyrgikhs Epitrophs Apokratikopoihsewn - na yparxei katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias.

Antilambanomaste oti to egxeirhma den einai eykolo. Antilambanomaste oti eprepe na yparxei mia bash kai ayth einai h stoixeiwdhs katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias gia na mporesoyme sygxronws kai parallhla na briskoyme kai tropoys ajiopoihshs xwris ayto bebaia, na shmainei oti opoia dhmosia perioysia einai emfanhs - gnwrizoyme ti yparxei sto Ellhniko, ti yparxei se alles perioxes ths xwras mas - oti den prospaqoyme na thn ajiopoihsoyme. Alla milame synolika gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias. Einai h prwth fora poy mia kybernhsh, h dikh mas kybernhsh, kanei mia tetoia shmantikh kai systhmatikh prospaqeia, etsi wste na mhn milame pleon apospasmatika, alla na milame gia to synolo ths dhmosias perioysias kai to tonizw einai h prwth fora poy ginetai ayth h prospaqeia.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, giati o Prwqypoyrgos aisqanqhke thn anagkh na jekinhsei periodeies se olh th xwra, me prwto proorismo th Qrakh; Kai ayto to rwtaw kaqoti tis teleytaies hmeres eixe yparjei mia filologia peri eklogwn. Isws aytes oi periodeies toy Prwqypoyrgoy foyntwsoyn aythn thn filologia.

PETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos sxediazei to programma toy me bash to ti pisteyei oti einai pros to symferon toy ellhnikoy laoy kai ths askhshs ths politikhs thn opoia bebaiws programmatizei eidika se epipedo dikwn toy periodeiwn kai dikwn toy drasewn. Einai safes, to na episkefqei mia perioxh ths xwras mas, den shmainei oti briskomaste se proeklogikh periodo. Ayta synebainan sto parelqon. Kai fysika den qa mporoyse na einai anastaltikos paragontas to na skeftetai oti an kanei mia periodeia sth Qrakh h opoydhpote alloy, qa synodeyqei me fhmes peri eklogwn. Prin apo ligo xroniko diasthma briskotan sthn Krhth, mazi me ton k. Skandalidh, sthn paroysiash toy megaloy kai filodojoy programmatos gia thn anadeijh twn paradosiakwn topikwn proiontwn. Prin apo ligo xroniko diasthma briskotan alloy. Ayto den shmainei oti exei na kanei me ekloges kai me proeklogikh periodo. Gia na to jekaqarisoyme: Den yparxei periptwsh na pame se ekloges. To exoyme pei epaneilhmmenws. To exei pei kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos: To ergo poy exei na kanei ayth h kybernhsh alla kai h xwra einai toso shmantiko kai toso krisimo ayth thn periodo poy kaqe allh skech, pragmatika, adikei ayth thn poly megalh prospaqeia poy ginetai apo ton ellhniko lao.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h N.D. sas kathgorhse kai shmera oti exete sto programma sas thn katarghsh toy 13oy kai 14oy misqoy, aplws to exete balei se kapoio syrtari sthn trexoysa sygkyria. Ti isxyei;

PETALWTHS: Einai alhqeia oti h N.D., eidika twra teleytaia, anakalyptei zhthmata ta opoia qa ajizan akomh kai brabeio gia senario episthmonikhs fantasias. Teinei malista to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs na ejeidikeyqei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Toylaxiston osoi diakinoyn apo th N.D. tetoioy eidoys senaria.

Emeis, omws, exoyme na kanoyme me thn pragmatikothta. Ton agwna gia ton 13o kai 14o misqo ton dinoyme, edw kai megalo xroniko diasthma. Epanalambanw, gia pollosth fora, oti se kanenan den epitrecame na qesei to sygkekrimeno zhthma. Kai fysika, den prokeitai oyte sto mellon na teqei tetoio qema.

To na qetei h N.D., to komma ths ypeyqynhs - ypotiqetai - ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, qema katarghshs 13oy kai 14oy misqoy ston idiwtiko tomea, otan emeis exoyme apodeijei pws den yparxei periptwsh na ginei kati tetoio, einai ena zhthma poy exei na kanei me thn idia thn tromokrathsh twn Ellhnwn politwn. Dystyxws, h N.D., elleicei stoixeiwdoys politikoy logoy kai mias stoixeiwdws sobarhs politikhs protashs, katafeygei sth xrhsh tetoiwn senariwn. Fysika, emas, ayth h taktikh oydolws mas afora. Emeis exoyme dwsei empraktws thn apanthsh mas. Ta ths N.D. ta akoyme edw kai panw apo ena xrono. Emeis, omws, exoyme apodeijei oti den yparxei kamia tetoia skech.

KOYTRAS: Sas akoysa prosektika. Mas eipate oti den jerete poia einai h dhmosia perioysia. Den jerete oyte kan poia kommatia exoyn katapathqei, poia einai eleyqera klp.

PETALWTHS: To kratos, oxi egw.

KOYTRAS: Profanws to kratos, oxi eseis. To symperasma, omws, poy bgazw egw einai oti ta 50 dis einai pantelws ayqaireta. Apo poy prokyptoyn;

PETALWTHS: Ayqaireto kai to symperasma sas. Sas eipa oti den yparxei leptomerhs katagrafh, alla yparxei katagrafh ths dhmosias perioysias se polla alla epipeda. Se epipeda ajiopoihshs poy mporei na ginoyn mesa apo metoxes, se epipeda ajiopoihshs twn hdh katagegrammenwn kai gnwstwn dhmosiwn xwrwn, oi opoioi, epiteloys prepei na ajiopoihqoyn. Ara, me ayta poy gnwrizoyme shmera, o stoxos twn 50 dis einai enas sxetika realistikos stoxos, o opoios bebaia teinei na apodeixqei kiolas sto pws qa pragmatwqei. Kai ekei h kybernhsh exei apanthseis. Oi apanthseis synistantai akribws sth doyleia poy exei na kanei.

Ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws gia thn akatagrapth dhmosia perioysia einai mia pragmatikothta. To gnwrizoyme oloi kai to gnwrizoyme para poly kala. Me mh katagegrammenh akribws th dhmosia perioysia, mporoyme na ypologisoyme oti mporei na yparxoyn tosa esoda. Ean pragmatika yparjei kai mia katagrafh, antilambanomaste oti oi dynatothtes ths ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias einai poly pio megales. Alla den qeloyme na eimaste majimalistes, qeloyme na eimaste realistes kai gi' ayto milame gi' ayto ton stoxo. Alla to stoixeiwdes kaqhkon toy ellhnikoy kratoys na gnwrizei poia einai h perioysia toy, emeis to kanoyme prajh. Kai ayto to blepoyme mono ws mia bash gia thn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh eikazw oti h DEH einai sthn katagegrammenh perioysia kai epeidh apo xqes enas dikos sas syndikalisths, ennow toy kommatos sto opoio anhkei h kybernhsh, exei jekinhsei enan ``troiko'' polemo enantion sas, mhpws yparxei kapoios sxediasmos gia thn ajiopoihsh ths DEH;

PETALWTHS: An enas syndikalisths jekinhse ``troiko'' polemo -etsi opws to lete xaritwmena, nai, kai genikws legetai- den mas afora. Oi syndikalistes kanoyn th doyleia toys.

Emeis, omws, eimaste h ypeyqynh kybernhsh toy topoy, h epifortismenh me th diafylajh ths dhmosias perioysias kai thn ajiopoihsh ths pros ofelos kai symferon twn Ellhnwn politwn. Kai me monadiko krithrio ayto, h kybernhsh poreyetai kai qa poreyqei sthn ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias.

To na bgainei kai na mila o kaqe syndikalisths ths kaqe epixeirhshs dhmosioy symferontos kai emeis apo thn allh na ton diaceydoyme, den odhgei poyqena. Emeis qetoyme ta krithria, etsi wste h monh ajiopoihsh -h opoia einai epibeblhmenh, oytws h allws, na ginei- na exei enan xarakthra entonoy dhmosioy symferontos kai tipote allo.

SIDERHS: Mia ypoqetikh erwthsh, kyrie Ekproswpe: An erqei enas megistanas kai zhthsei ena jeronhsi sto Aigaio 1.000 X 300 metra kai toy to poylhsoyme, kata ti ayto meiwnei h yponomeyei thn eqnikh mas kyriarxia;

PETALWTHS: H periptwsh sthn opoia anafereste, einai poly qewrhtikh. Eidika gia ta nhsia kai thn eqnikh kyriarxia mporoyn na teqoyn polla zhthmata, poy kanonika den qa eprepe ayta na ta skeftomaste. Den qa anaferqw periptwsiologika kai den qa apanthsw ypoqetika. Ekeino, omws, poy exoyme emeis na kanoyme einai na eggyhqoyme - kai ayto kanoyme, gi' ayto kai o Prwqypoyrgos proebh shmera s' ayth thn ejaggelia- oti den qa poylhqei dhmosia gh. H dhmosia gh exei tetoia shmantikotath ajia, poy den exei na kanei me to proswrino jeperasma aplws mias krishs. Antiqeta, h ajiopoihsh ayths ths dhmosias perioysias einai akrws epibeblhmenh, akomh kai na mhn briskomastan se krish.

KOYTRAS: Qelw na sas rwthsw gia tis ekloges: Epeidh tis aporriptete synexws, prin apo ligo eipate oti zhtate kai synainesh apo th N.D. kai apo ola ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs. Epeidh ayth h synainesh den prokyptei apo poyqena, oyte kan dialogo den einai diateqeimena ta ypoloipa kommata na kanoyn.

PETALWTHS: Kapoia kommata exoyn apanthsei qetika.

KOYTRAS: Nai.

PETALWTHS: Entajei, ayto omws den meiwnei se tipota thn prospaqeia mas.

KOYTRAS: Wstoso, ta kommata ejoysias eiste eseis kai h N.D., paradosiaka, sthn Ellada. Qa proxwrhsete eite me, eite xwris th N.D. kai qa desmeysete kai thn epomenh kybernhsh h qa proxwrhsete se ekloges;

PETALWTHS: Ekloges den qa kanoyme, to eipame. Oi ekloges qa ginoyn sthn wra toys. Exoyme na kanoyme shmantikotato ergo. Kai an ekei katateinei h erwthsh sas, nomizw oti h apanthsh ayth arkei.

Eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-179724771-1297806079=:20159--


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