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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-04-05

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 5 Aprilioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 325243738

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 5 Aprilioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Leitoyrgei apo xqes h Yphresia ``Mias Stashs'' gia th systash epixeirhsewn. Einai ena programma poy leitoyrgei se 59 katasthmata Emporikwn Epimelhthriwn, se 3.200 symbolaiografeia se olh th xwra kai se ligo kairo kai se 52 epilegmena Kentra Enhmerwshs toy Polith (KEP).

Prokeitai gia mia pragmatikh kai oysiastikh kainotomia poy deixnei pws ennoei h kybernhsh thn anaptyjh sthn prajh kai oxi san askhsh epi xartoy kai se epipedo eyxologioy opws thn ennooyn polloi alloi.

Ta ofelh einai idiaitera shmantika, toso gia to Dhmosio, oso kai gia ton polith. Alla fysika kai gia thn antagwnistikothta ths oikonomias, mias kai gnwrizoyme oti to problhma ths grafeiokratias einai ena megalo meros toy problhmatos ths mh anaptyjhs edw kai xronia, kaqoti oi ependytes den elkyontai apo ena grafeiokratiko systhma, prokeimenoy na kanoyn tis opoies ependyseis.

Prokeitai fysika gia ena ergo poy apaitei synexh parakoloyqhsh. Deixnei omws kai tis kateyqynseis poy exei to ellhniko Dhmosio. Fysika, otan yparxei h politikh boylhsh, tote oi kateyqynseis aytes ylopoioyntai. Einai ena oxhma kainotomias kai proodoy. Etsi meiwnoyme toys anastaltikoys paragontes kai ta empodia kaqe epixeirhmatikhs prospaqeias, kati to opoio htan synhqes sto parelqon. Kai fysika, shmera, to antimetwpizoyme kai me ayto ton tropo.

Opws einai eykola antilhpto ta ofelh einai pollapla. Meiwnontai oysiastika h grafeiokratia kai oi dioikhtikes epibarynseis. Ejoikonomeitai xronos kai ergatiko dynamiko poy mporei na apasxolhqei pleon se alles ergasies. Dhmioyrgeitai anaptyjh, dhmioyrgoyntai qeseis ergasias, ontas pio elkystiko to ependytiko periballon.

Einai xarakthristiko oti stis dyo prwtes meres leitoyrgias ayths ths yphresias exoyn idryqei ennea atomikes epixeirhseis, mia eterorryqmh, deka omorryqmes kai tesseris anwnymes etaireies.

O krisimos tomeas ths anaptyjhs poy gia polloys einai filologia h parafilologia kai eyxologia, apaitei sxedio, programmatismo, pragmatikh kainotomia kai oysiastikes kinhseis symparastashs ths politeias pros toys polites poy qeloyn na epixeirhsoyn.

H kybernhsh exei th boylhsh kai pragmatwnei thn oysiastikh, ygih kai anqrwpokentrikh anaptyjh, mesa apo enan shmantikotato sxediasmo o opoios yparxei -fysika, einai polla ta sxetika programmata enisxyshs ths epixeirhmatikothtas- alla kai me thn oysiastikh aporrofhsh kai ajiopoihsh olwn twn xrhmatodotikwn ergaleiwn poy poly kala gnwrizoyme pws xrhsimopoioyntan sto parelqon.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SEGKOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw poso timhtiko einai gia thn kybernhsh na ypodexetai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos ena apo ta megalytera arpaktika twn agorwn, kyriolektika kai anaferomai ston k. Soros me ton opoio synanthqhke kai o opoios exei paijei sto parelqon arketa kerdoskopika paixnidia.

PETALWTHS: Gnwrizoyme para poly kala oti briskomaste s' ena reysto dieqnes periballon sto opoio yparxoyn parametroi kai paragontes poy einai aprosdioristoi. Fysika den shmainei oti kaqe synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me opoiondhpote ap' aytoys toys paragontes h kaqe synomilia qa prepei na enoxopoieitai kai na poinikopoieitai. Den mas endiaferei h apoch, h prajh kai h praktikh toy kaqenos. Ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na syzhtame, na ejhgoyme pros oloys toys paragontes ti akribws kanoyme, poies einai oi qeseis mas, pws bgainei ayto to programma poy ylopoioyme. Kai fysika, se kaqe eykairia na dinoyme pros ta ejw thn prooptikh ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. As mhn jexname oti o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synanthqei kai me ton k. Roympini, o opoios exei ekfrasei kai sto parelqon apoceis me tis opoies hmastan kaqeta antiqetoi kai gia tis opoies apodeijame kai apodeiknyoyme oti den eystaqoyn. Ekeino poy exei shmasia einai oi pragmatikes epiloges kai oi pragmatikes kateyqynseis poy akoloyqei h kybernhsh. Oi synomilies den qa prepei na poinikopoioyntai. Qa prepei na eimaste eleyqeroi kai anoiktoi sto na syzhtame. Kai ep' oydeni, fysika, mia synanthsh kai mia syzhthsh shmainei kai apodoxh twn apocewn toy synomilhth. O k. Soros briskotan edw, opws gnwrizoyme, gia ena synedrio. Htan omilhths se mia dialejh. Fysika, h Ellada den einai apokommenh apo to dieqnes gignesqai.

O Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos exei apodeijei oti den fobatai tipota, oti einai anoiktos, oti leei tis apoceis toy se poly dyskoles katastaseis kai peristaseis, akomh kai me dyskoloys synomilhtes. Me ayto ton tropo leitoyrghse kai sthn prokeimenh periptwsh. Ekeino to opoio ofeiloyme na tonisoyme einai oti ayto poy mas endiaferei einai na apodeiknyoyme sthn prajh oti emeis den ginomaste ermaia kanenos poy exei diaforetikh antilhch gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia, alla exei kai alles bleceis sto myalo toy. Den mas endiaferei ti kanei kaqenas. Mas endiaferei oti qa prepei na synomiloyme me paragontes tis dieqnoys oikonomikhs zwhs, kratwntas tis qeseis mas, proballontas tis qeseis mas kai isxyropoiwntas akoma perissotero thn politikh mas boylhsh kai kyriws ayto na fainetai pros ta ejw. Oti, dhladh, emeis exoyme enan sxediasmo, ton opoio ylopoioyme.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, einai pagia qesh toy k. Soros kai thn exei ekfrasei polles fores, oti einai yper ths anadiarqrwshs toy xreoys, oxi mono ths Elladas, genikotera. Eseis diaceydete oti xqes o k. Prwqypoyrgos syzhthse me ton k. Soros to qema ths anadiarqrwshs;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kanena tetoio qema syzhthshs. Prwta ap' ola, o k. Soros ejefrase kai alles apoceis, poy htan pio eynoikes gia mas, sth dialejh poy ekane sto Moyseio Kykladikhs Texnhs. Apo ekei kai pera, emeis exoyme sygkekrimenh qesh, exoyme sygkekrimenh apoch. Exoyme pei kai exoyme ejhghsei pros ta ejw oti oxi aplws h anadiarqrwsh den einai stis stoxeyseis mas, alla exoyme isxyrh pepoiqhsh oti opoiadhpote anadiarqrwsh qa einai poly blaptikh kai epizhmia gia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. H zhmia ayth qa metatopisqei kai qa metakylistei stis plates toy Ellhna polith, alla kai h anadiarqrwsh se eyrwpaiko epipedo, epishs qa einai blaptikh. Exoyme jekaqarh qesh. O Prwqypoyrgos thn exei anaferei, thn exei tonisei polles fores, kaqws kai o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn thn exei analysei poly prosfata. Ayth einai h dhmosia apoch mas kai h qesh mas kai malista ginetai me tetoio tropo poy den afhnei periqwrio gia kamia syzhthsh panw s' ayto to qema.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Allo h qesh ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs kai allo...

PETALWTHS: Den syzhthqhke h anadiarqrwsh.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie ypoyrge, yparxei periptwsh na syzhthqhke kapoio endiaferon toy k. Soros gia ependyseis; Giati h idiothta toy basika einai na einai ependyths.

PETALWTHS: Oxi. To ti syzhthqhke kai to poia qemata qixthkan, exoyn anakoinwqei. Htan se epipedo mias allhloenhmerwshs gia th dieqnh katastash kai fysika kai gia thn katastash ths xwras mas. Apo ekei kai pera, den yphrxe kati pio sygkekrimeno. Kai epanalambanw, oti ayto egine sto plaisio toy oti o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos synomilei kai ejhgei pros oloys tis qeseis mas, tis apoceis mas kai tis kateyqynseis mas. To na syzhtame kryfa h mystika h otidhpote allo, den mas afora. Qa mporoyse na exoyn ginei syzhthseis tetoies, opws ginotan kai sto parelqon polles fores. Emeis syzhtame anoixta, syzhtame dhmosia. Kai oi syzhthseis - kai oi proswpikes - poy ginontai den afistantai kaqoloy apo tis dhmosies topoqethseis toy Ellhna Prwqypoyrgoy. Exoyme sygkekrimenes apoceis gia shmantika zhthmata kai oi apoceis twn synomilhtwn einai kaqara dikes toys apoceis.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, akoysa sth NET ton k. Mhtarakh, oysiastika na pairnei apostaseis apo thn politikh Alogoskoyfh kai Papaqanasioy kai na leei oti h dikh toy apoch einai oti den proetoimasan, oi sygkekrimenoi prwhn ypoyrgoi ths N.D., th xwra gia mia dieqnh oikonomikh krish, h opoia malista htan megalyterh ap` o,ti perimename. Eipe, akomh o k. Mhtarakhs oti kinhqhkan me ``argoys ryqmoys hpias prosarmoghs'', enw ta dieqnh dedomena allajan jafnika. Pws krinete olh ayth thn kritikh toy k. Mhtarakh sthn oikonomikh diakybernhsh ths N.D.;

PETALWTHS: Enhmerwqhka kai egw opws oloi mas gia thn apoch kai th qesh poy ejefrase o qesmikos armodios gia ta oikonomika ths N.D., o k. Mhtarakhs. Kai ekei, nomizw, oti o k. Samaras qa prepei na parei mia jekaqarh qesh, ean ensternizetai aytes tis apoceis gia thn hpia prosarmogh ths oikonomikhs politikhs poy askoyse h kybernhsh ths N.D., ypoyrgos ths opoias htan. Kai malista otan, mexri shmera, exei apofygei systhmatika h N.D. na apostasiopoieitai apo to kybernhtiko ths parelqon. Antiqeta, to yposthrizei opoy mporei kai oso mporei, oso epitrepoyn fysika kai oi eswkommatikes ths isorropies. Alla sto sygkekrimeno zhthma pragmatika qa eprepe kai prepei na parei qesh o k. Samaras. To oti yparxoyn diaforetikes apoceis mesa sth N.D. einai gnwsto. Einai gnwsta kai exoyn bgei kai sth dhmosiothta ta parapona kai oi diaforetikes qeseis twn tomearxwn ths N.D., toso gia th leitoyrgia ths N.D., oso kai gia tis diaforetikes apoceis poy ekfrazontai apo thn hgetikh omada ths N.D. Palaiotera eixame ton k. Barda, steno synergath kai symboylo toy k. Samara, o opoios ejefraze alles apoceis ap` aytes poy diatypwne o k. Samaras. Omws, qa prepei to komma ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, pragmatika, na parei qesh se sygkekrimena shmeia kai stoixeia ths oikonomikhs politikhs. Oso de, ws pros thn akoloyqoymenh apo ton k. Karamanlh oikonomikh politikh, den einai jekommenh apo to paron ths N.D. Kai ekei pragmatika einai kai oi epiloges tis opoies exei na kanei shmera h N.D. Nomizw oti ayto qa prepei na mas to dieykrinisei o idios o k. Samaras. Kai malista otan emeis shmera kai olo ayto to diasthma leme oti mas ebale h kybernhsh ths N.D. teleiws aqwrakistoys mesa se mia pagkosmia krish poy diafainotan oti erxotan amesa gia th xwra mas, mas kathgoroyn oti milame gia to parelqon. O k. Mhtarakhs milhse jekaqara gia to parelqon, dhlwnontas oti h prohgoymenh kybernhsh den mas proetoimase gia mia dieqnh oikonomikh krish megalyterh ap` o,ti perimename. As mas ejhghsoyn loipon kai as mas poyn pragmatika poies einai oi qeseis toys.

SEGKOS: Mhpws mporeite na mas peite, ti syzhthse o Prwqypoyrgos me ton Soros gia to qema ths B. Afrikhs; Giati grafetai ston Typo oti syzhthqhke kai ayto to qema. Kai telika, mhpws o k. Soros exei analabei enan atypo rolo komisth twn qesewn ths amerikanikhs kybernhshs;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei anagkh na einai kaneis komisths qesewn mias kybernhshs. Yparxei qesmikos diaylos epikoinwnias ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs me tis alles kybernhseis. Poso, de, otan milame gia thn kybernhsh Ompama, o opoios exei deijei oti ektima th xwra mas, ektima tis prospaqeies mas kai malista, yparxoyn kai shmantikes filikes sxeseis. Exei anakoinwqei ti syzhthqhke me ton k. Soros. Kai fysika den empiptei se tipota, ayto poy lete, oson afora sthn pragmatikothta.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Ep` aytoy: Pws ejhgeite to gegonos oti h Ellada ekleise thn presbeia mas sth Libyh kai ta xreh, telos pantwn gia tis diergasies ekei, qa mas ejyphretei h presbeia ths Oyggarias;

PETALWTHS: H opoia askei thn proedria ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Gi` ayto to logo h epeidh apo ekei einai o k. Soros;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti einai kalo na skeftomaste pio baqia kai na diereynoyme. Eseis, ws dhmosiografoi, kanete poly kala to kaqhkon sas kai eiste poly diereynhtikoi. Alla, epeidh gyrw apo kapoia proswpa kai pragmata, polles fores, yparxei mia synomwsiologia, polles fores alla einai swsta kai alla einai laqos -ayto apodeiknyetai sthn prajh - den tiqetai kanena tetoio zhthma. H Ellada anesteile th leitoyrgia ths presbeias ths sthn Tripolh gia logoys asfaleias kai thn ekproswphsh twn ellhnikwn symferontwn epitelei h Oyggaria giati einai h proedreyoysa xwra ths E.E. kai mono. Den exei kamia sxesh oyte me ton k. Soros, oyte me kanenan allon. Den qa mporoyse allwste na exei sxesh.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, akoysa ton k. Papakwnstantinoy na yposthrizei oti yparxoyn seirhnes poy kaqe mera khryttoyn thn katastrofologia kai poy oysiastika lene oti den bgainoyn ta noymera kai odhgoymaste pros thn katastrofh. Poies einai aytes oi seirhnes, dhladh;

PETALWTHS: Einai aytes poy akoyme synexeia apo polles pleyres, edw kai enamish xrono poy askoyme th diakybernhsh ths xwras. Exoyme akoysei kata koron oti ``ptwxeyoyme'', oti ``qa ptwxeysoyme''. Mexri kai diafora senaria episthmonikhs fantasias anaptyssontai kaqe mera. Pragmata, fysika, poy exoyn apodeixqei oti einai analhqh. Kai an kapote, ontws, sthn arxh ths kybernhshs mas briskomastan sto xeilos ths xreokopias - giati pragmati mia tetoia xwra kai mia tetoia oikonomikh katastash mas klhrodothse h N.D. - shmera exoyme kataferei kai ayto exei katastei safes, na fqasoyme se ena shmeio to opoio qa mporoysa na xarakthrisw ws qetiko kai to opoio apexei eth fwtos apo thn proteraia katastash.

Kata synepeia, oxi monon ayth th stigmh poy milame, alla edw kai arketoys mhnes, den dikaiologeitai kamia ma kamia tetoia fhmologia. Gi' ayto, qa prepei oloi mas na dinoyme thn prepoysa apanthsh stoys kindynologoyntes. Kai otan lew ``oloi mas'', ennow fysika, peran kai prwtistws ths kybernhsews, oles tis politikes dynameis, oi opoies synaisqanomenes tis eyqynes toys, ofeiloyn na diapaidagwgoyn kai na diamorfwnoyn thn koinh gnwmh, opws kai ta Mesa Mazikhs Enhmerwshs.

To na exoyme synexeia ena sygkekrimeno moto katastrofologias, ptwxeyshs, xreokopias, anadiarqrwshs, pragma poy apodeiknyetai oti edw kai polloys mhnes oydemia sxesh exei me thn pragmatikothta, kaqe allo para bohqa thn eqnikh prospaqeia poy ginetai sto shmeio, bebaia, poy oloi thn antilambanomeqa ws eqnikh prospaqeia.

Otan, omws kapoies politikes dynameis thn antilambanontai me teleiws diaforetikoys oroys prosblepoyses, se baqos xronoy, sto mellon toy kommatos toys anti na blepoyn to mellon ths xwras, tote mporei kai na anexontai tetoies fhmologies.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, edw kai meres, h N.D. exei proteinei th systash epitrophs elegxoy toy ``poqen esxes'' olwn twn ypoyrgwn apo to 1974 ews kai shmera. H kybernhsh ti qesh pairnei panw s' ayto;

PETALWTHS: Kai pali h N.D. efqase asqmainontas na proteinei kati to opoio emeis proanaggeilame stis 6 Ianoyarioy toy 2011. Proanaggeilame tote oti qa yparjei sxetikh nomoqetikh prwtoboylia: - Prwton, gia th diafaneia twn kommatwn poy einai ena poly shmantiko kai kombiko shmeio gia to politiko systhma, gia thn oikonomia, alla kai gia thn idia th xwra kai thn ajiopistia olwn mas. - Deyteron, sthn idia nomoqetikh prwtoboylia qa emperiexetai h allagh toy tropoy elegxoy toy ``poqen esxes'' twn politikwn. Ekei, pragmati, emeis proteiname kai exoyme sygkekrimenh protash, thn opoia qa feroyme sto plaisio ths en logw nomoqetikhs prwtoboylias.

Qa akoloyqhsei diaboyleysh me toys polites kai me ta kommata, ta opoia qa klhqoyn na poyn tis apoceis toys.

Epomenws, emeis, apo tis 6 Ianoyarioy toy 2011, eixame kinhqei pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. Dystyxws, h N.D., kapws arga, molis xqes qymhqhke na ferei ypotiqemenh dikh ths protash sth Boylh gia to ``poqen esxes'' twn politikwn kai malista me anadromikh isxy. Ola ayta apodeiknyontai sthn prajh. Kai ean, pragmati, qeloyme na exoyme toylaxiston ena nomoqetiko plaisio poy na diasfalizei th diafaneia sthn oikonomikh kai politikh zwh, emeis ayto, ws kybernhsh, to kanoyme prajh kaqe mera. Kai to ``kaqe mera'' exei terastia barythta, kati sto opoio, polles fores, h N.D. den mporei na antapokriqei.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-325073141-1302036056=:19969--


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