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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-05-03

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 3 Maioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 330180974

Ekdosh 1

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 3 Maioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN

KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Shmera einai h pagkosmia hmera eleyqerotypias, h opoia exei kaqierwqei na giortazetai apo tis 3 Maioy toy 1993.

Mia hmera poy den einai aplws mia typikh giorth. Giati katoxyrwnetai to basiko kai stoixeiwdes qemelio ths Dhmokratias poy einai h eleyqeria toy Typoy, poy einai h yparjh ployralismoy sta M.M.E. Kai prepei kaqhmerina na apodeiknyetai, toso apo thn ektelestikh ejoysia poy exei th dynamh kai thn isxy -h opoia qa prepei na apodeiknyei oti den epixeirei na xeiragwghsei ton Typo- oso kai apo ton Typo kai malista se dyskoles epoxes, opws einai h shmerinh, opoy apaiteitai kaqarothta, entimothta, sobarothta, synepeia, cyxraimia, synesh kai eilikrineia. Einai kati poy ofeiloyme oloi stoys Ellhnes polites.

Einai mia sxesh empistosynhs. Einai mia sxesh poy exei na kanei me thn idia th Dhmokratia kai to sebasmo pros toys polites kai thn agwnia toys.

Qa prepei na analogistoyme oloi, ti bhmata prepei na kanoyme akomh, etsi wste h eleyqeria toy Typoy na apokta akomh perissotero periexomeno, mias akomh kai sth xwra mas, prin apo liga xronia, perasame periodoys opoy h diaplokh kai h apopeira synallaghs me ton Typo, htan se kaqhmerinh bash. Kai polles fores, ypokatesthse kai thn idia thn politikh ayth kaqayth.

Eytyxws, shmera, toylaxiston apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs den yparxei kamia tetoia epidiwjh kai ayto to apodeiknyoyme kaqhmerina oloi mas.

H kybernhtikh prospaqeia gia thn anadeijh ths xwras synexizetai se ena dromo, poy toso h kybernhsh oso kai oi polites ths xwras, gnwrizoyn oti einai dyskolos.

Me apofasistikothta, proxwrame se tomes kai metarryqmiseis poy ekkremoysan gia xronia kai tis opoies o topos eixe apolyth anagkh. Diaxeirizomaste xronia problhmata kai adynamies poy antimetwpizontai systhmatika kai entatika, gia prwth fora, me ryqmoys kybernhtikoy ergoy, oi opoioi einai prwtognwroi gia thn ellhnikh pragmatikothta, alla kai gia thn ellhnikh dioikhsh.

Epidiwkoyme dhmosionomikh ejygiansh mesa se synqhkes yfeshs kai krishs, poly eyryterh apo thn oikonomia ths xwras mas. Mprosta se ayth th megalh prospaqeia, xreos olwn mas, politikwn, koinwnikwn dynamewn kai politwn einai na thn anadeijoyme.

Ofeiloyme oloi mas, pros ofelos ths xwras kai ths koinwnias, na anadeijoyme kyriws ton terastio ogko twn allagwn poy synteloyntai, alla kai poy exoyme akoma mprosta mas, etsi wste na fqasoyme se mia Ellada apeleyqerwmenh kai apo tis ameses daneiakes ths anagkes, alla kai se mia Ellada h opoia qa einai kalyterh mesa stis megales allages.

Ofeiloyme na epimeinoyme, para to xronio kai epimono xarakthra twn allagwn poy epixeiroyme kai para tis dyskoles synqhkes ths krishs oti h Ellada allazei kai qa synexizei na allazei pros to kalytero. Giati aytos einai kai o dromos gia na fygoyme apo th monimh krish.

Ayth h megalh allagh poy synteleitai, h epimonh sthn anatajh ths oikonomias kai ths xwras, h proodos poy epitygxanoyme epimona, apoteloyn to kefalaio ajiopistias, thn opoia h xwra anakta kaqhmerina. Apotelei to megalo proson mas, th megalh proika poy dhmioyrgoyme gia th xwra mas: Ajiopistia enanti twn etairwn mas, kyriws omws, enanti twn politwn mas, poy thn ofeiloyme.

Ayto einai to megalo stoixhma gia th xwra. Ena stoixhma poy yperbainei th mizeria, to mhdenismo kai ta mikrokommatika ofelh. Ayth einai h bash mias neas sxeshs me toys polites, basizomenh sth diaygeia toy politikoy gignesqai, sth diafanh dioikhsh, sthn ygih anaptyjh kai sthn oysiastikh kai oxi rhtorikh sthrijh twn dikaiwmatwn.

Oi polites gnwrizoyn oti h jekaqarh apofasistikothta gi` aytes tis tomes kai ta apotelesmata poy epitygxanoyme, apotelei th monh kaqarh kai isxyrh ellhnikh fwnh, mesa se mia kakofwnia mizerias, arnhtismoy kai foboy poy synteleitai.

Oi polites gnwrizoyn tis dyskoles synqhkes krishs, yfeshs kai dieqnoys antagwnismoy, mesa stis opoies anaptyssetai h prospaqeia ths xwras. Gnwrizoyn oti den yparxoyn magikes lyseis gia thn epilysh twn problhmatwn, alla oti apaiteitai politikh boylhsh, kaqhmerinh kai synexhs doyleia, poy ayth th stigmh safws yparxei.

Oi polites ths xwras symmetexoyn se ayth th megalh eqnikh prospaqeia, oxi mono me ton kopo kai tis qysies toys, alla kai me aisqhma ypeyqynothtas apenanti s` ayth th megalh prospaqeia ths xwras, na bgei apo th shmantikoterh krish poy perase apo th metapoliteysh.

Oi polites apo thn pleyra toys systhnoyn th nea ayth sxesh empistosynhs apenanti sto kratos, sthrizontas oysiastika kai emprakta thn eqnikh prospaqeia, aporriptontas thn apaisiodojia kai thn paraithsh, diekdikwntas thn energhtikh symmetoxh toys.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SEGKOS: H kybernhsh aisqanetai ikanopoihmenh apo thn aprokalypth sthrijh poy ths pareixe o epitimos Proedros ths N.D.;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh aisqanetai ikanopoihmenh mono apo ayta ta opoia epitelei h idia. Para ta laqh kai tis paraleiceis poy ginontai mesa se mia periodo, poy synista periodo entatikhs doyleias prwtognwrhs gia th xwra mas, emeis pisteyoyme oti ayto poy kanoyme einai to eqnika anagkaio: Na swsoyme th xwra.

Th swsame hdh apo th xreokopia kai prospaqoyme na qesoyme ekeines tis baseis kai na ths dwsoyme ekeina ta stoixeia ajiopistias poy qa mas odhghsoyn se mia allh Ellada, poly kalyterh, ap` ayth poy zoyme twra, alla kai ap` ayth poy zhsame. Mia Ellada me monimes allages, poy den qa exoyn sxesh me to laikismo, mia Ellada h opoia qa einai antajia twn prospaqeiwn poy kanoyn oi polites ths.

Apo ekei kai pera, to poios symfwnei me tis kinhseis kai thn politikh mas kai gia poion logo to kanei, einai ena qema poy epidexetai polles syzhthseis. Emeis, oytws h allws, exoyme proskalesei oles tis politikes kai koinwnikes dynameis na dwsoyn th synainesh toys. Kati, poy aporrifqhke sxedon apo oles tis politikes dynameis gia dikoys toys logoys. Gia na ekmetalleyontai, dystyxws, mia mizeria thn opoia oi idies politikes dynameis anaparagoyn. Fysika, akomh kai shmera, kaloyme toys pantes kai kyriws ta politika kommata kai tis koinwnikes dynameis na analogistoyme oloi tis eyqynes poy exoyme apenanti se ayto to lao.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, shmera yparxei ena prwtoselido dhmosieyma sthn ``Eleyqerotypia'' poy oysiastika katalhgei sto symperasma oti diafora symferonta exoyn emplakei sto qema ths ependyshs sto ``Ellhniko'' kai odhghsan ayth thn ependysh mallon se nayagio. Poio einai to sxolio sas;

PETALWTHS: Kai xqes, dieceysa kathgorhmatika oti exei nayaghsei to sxedio gia to ``Ellhniko''. To ``Ellhniko'' einai ena programma to opoio pragmatika qa deijei tis proqeseis me tis opoies kineitai h kybernhsh. Deixnei thn politikh mas boylhsh, na ekmetalleyqoyme me ton kalytero tropo mia poly megalh perioxh, h opoia dystyxws edw kai polla xronia einai egkataleleimmenh. Mia perioxh h opoia brisketai se shmantiko shmeio ths prwteyoysas kai qa mporoyse na ejelixqei - kai ayto qa ginei - ws enas shmantikos ``pneymonas'' zwhs.

Na dromologhqoyn ekei tetoies draseis, oi opoies qa synadoyn me to periballon. Qa einai kai anagkaies gia th beltiwsh ths poiothtas zwhs twn politwn ths Attikhs, alla kai qa feroyn esoda sth xwra, ta opoia qa epitrecoyn na ginoyn kai ta ypoloipa erga. Ayto to project, ayth h paragwgh, ayto to sxedio, safws kai den exei egkataleifqei.

Osoi diateinontai kati tetoio exoyn teleiws abasimes kai anypostates plhrofories. Hdh, o ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Pampoykhs exei apanthsei se ena radiofwniko staqmo to prwi, epishs, qa apanthsei kai me synenteyjh Typoy poy qa ginei se ligo, giati akribws ayto to dhmosieyma den exei ixnos alhqeias. Isa-isa, o sxediasmos toy ergoy poy einai poly synqetos, proxwraei. Yparxei eggrafh diabebaiwsh, prin apo 15 hmeres, h opoia akribws dinei kai to stigma toy prosfatoy endiaferontos toys apo to Katar. Se kamia periptwsh den eystaqoyn aytes oi dhqen plhrofories poy einai pantelws abasimes.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kat` anaqesh ergasies ston Aqempigio synadei me to kaqestws ths ennomhs tajhs sth xwra;

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, den yparxei kat` anaqesh ergoy ston k. Aqempigio. O k. Aqempigio exei kanei tis protaseis toy, einai ergazomenos se mia etairia. Fysika den yparxei periptwsh na paraboyme th nomimothta, h opoia omws den mporei na ermhneyetai apo polles pleyres. H nomimothta einai mia. Emeis, ayto poy qa kanoyme, einai na sxediasoyme, etsi wste na jekinhsei h ylopoihsh enos poly megaloy ergoy, to opoio safestata qa eprepe na ginei edw kai xronia, me ton pleon nomimo tropo.

MIXAHL: Symfwna me to dhmosieyma o k. Aqempigio exei mia etairia symboylwn gia anaptyjiaka programmata. Kai ayto isxyrizetai to dhmosieyma oti htan kai h aitia pros to paron, to ergo na mhn proxwraei. Eseis gnwrizete, o k. Aqempigio exei gnwstopoihsei sthn kybernhsh oti pragmati exei mia tetoia etairia, h aplws o k. Aqempigio ws eidikos episthmonas prosfere tis yphresies toy;

PETALWTHS: Ayto poy exw na pw egw, einai oti ta panta einai nomima. Ta panta qa ginoyn sto plaisio ths nomimothtas. O sxediasmos toy ergoy proxwra kai oi leptomereies qa anakoinwnontai oso proxwra o sxediasmos kai h ylopoihsh toy ergoy.

PITTARAS: Egw den qa amfisbhthsw ean to ergo proxwra h ean isxyoyn h oxi ayta ths Eleyqerotypias. Qelw na staqw omws se ena allo gegonos. Sto oti jafnika maqame oti exei allajei, me prwtoboylia toy k. Papakwnstantinoy kai toy k. Xrysoxoidh, o tropos epiloghs twn symboylwn gia ta megala ayta erga. Kai ypotiqetai oti mexri twra ayto poy gnwrizame htan oti gi' ayta ta erga akoloyqeitai mia diadikasia fast track kai twra me ayth th nea diadikasia, profanws ta erga qa phgainoyn pisw. 'Ara, loipon, poios sxediasmos proxwraei, poy einai h agwnia ths kybernhshs na mazecei kai ta xrhmata poy qelei edw kai twra;

PETALWTHS: Epanerxomai se ayto poy anefera kai prohgoymenws. H kybernhsh sxediazei kai ylopoiei thn anaptyjh se ola ta epipeda, me bash th nomimothta kai me bash tis megales anagkes poy yparxoyn sth xwra mas gia mia taxytath diadikasia anaptyjhs, h opoia omws qa sthrizetai kai sthrizetai panw se arxes kai diadikasies, me sebasmo sto periballon, me sebasmo sth nomimothta kai me monadiko stoxeymeno apotelesma th beltiwsh ths poiothtas ths zwhs twn politwn. Oles oi kinhseis poy ginontai kai oles oi apofaseis poy lambanontai apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, ayth th stigmh, se ola ta epipeda kai me oles tis leptomereies, kinoyntai kai basizontai panw se aytes tis arxes.

PITTARAS: Qelw, apla, na epimeinw, oti to erwthma moy exei na kanei kyriws me to gegonos: Den fobaste oti dhmioyrgwntas nea prosxwmata qa akyrwsete apo monoi sas to ergo kai qa ypoxrewsete toys Katarianoys na apoxwrhsoyn;

PETALWTHS: Oxi, den fobomaste. Giati jeroyme poly kala pws sxediazetai to ergo, jeroyme poly kala ti xreiazetai gia na sxediastei kai na ylopoihqei ayto to poly megalo ergo, poy qa exei na kanei kai me th zwh twn katoikwn ths prwteyoysas, alla kai qa einai enas poly megalos anaptyjiakos pyrhnas kai polos gia olh th xwra. Kai qa einai kai enas mpoysoylas gia to pws mporoyme na diaxeirizomaste kai na ajiopoioyme th dhmosia perioysia, h opoia, en pollois diesparmenh se olh thn Ellada, brisketai anekmetalleyth. Yparxoyn oles oi proypoqeseis kai h nomimothta na threitai kai h taxythta kaqe ependyshs na diasfalizetai kai malista se dyskoles synqhkes.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Toso xqes, kyrie Ekproswpe, oso kai shmera, kanate logo gia fwnes mizerias kai katastrofologias kai katastrofologoys poy briskontai apenanti sthn prospaqeia ths kybernhshs. Na ypoqesw oti entassete s' ayth thn kathgoria kai boyleytes toy PASOK, opws o k. Mimhs Androylakhs, poy ekane logo xqes gia ``kybernhtika karagkiozilikia'' kai kathgorhse thn kybernhsh gia pantelh elleich sxedioy;

PETALWTHS: Einai gnwsto oti, den sxoliazw apoceis boyleytwn. Einai gnwsth h qesh ths kybernhshs mas oti oi boyleytes exoyn tis apoceis toys, oti oi boyleytes mesa apo tis apoceis poy ekfrazoyn, ekfrazoyn polles fores thn agwnia toy Ellhna polith, ton opoio ekproswpoyn sto Ellhniko Koinoboylio kai polles fores dinoyn wqhsh kai se emas kai sto kybernhtiko ergo. Apo ekei kai pera, oi idiaiteres apoceis toy kaqe boyleyth einai sebastes kai den einai antikeimeno sxoliasmoy apo emena. Ekeino omws sto opoio qa epimeinw einai oti kai o Mimhs Androylakhs, opws kai polloi alloi oi opoioi kanoyn paromoies kriseis, anagnwrizoyn oti to PASOK einai h monh politikh dynamh, h opoia mporei na bgalei th xwra apo to telma. Ayto einai para poly shmantiko. Kai ayto den to estiazw mono ston Mimh Androylakh, alla epanalambanw oti polles kritikes, mexri kai arnhtikes fwnes, katalhgoyn oti h monh politikh dynamh poy bgazei th xwra apo to telma einai to PASOK, einai ayth h kybernhsh. Ki emeis eimaste pepeismenoi gi' ayto. Kai para tis antijoothtes, para tis poly dyskoles synqhkes oi opoies epikratoyn - kai ayth einai mia parametros poy den prepei na thn jexna kaneis, oti zoyme, politeyomaste kai ergazomaste politika se prwtognwres gia th xwra synqhkes kai ara kai h politikh mas akoloyqei polles diakymanseis, giati anagkazetai na antimetwpizei idiaiterothtes kai ektaktes anagkes. Par' ola ayta, oi perissoteroi poy einai epikritikoi apenanti sto kybernhtiko ergo, anagnwrizoyn opws kai o ellhnikos laos epishs anagnwrizei oti eimaste h monh politikh dynamh poy mporoyme na bgaloyme th xwra mprosta. Ayto eimai sigoyros oti to anagnwrizei kai to deixnei kai to pisteyei akomh kai h N.D., h opoia, par' olo ton polemo lasphs poy ejapolyei kaqe mera, par' olh thn kritikh, thn antiqesh, thn arnhsh, ton mhdenismo kai th mizeria thn opoia diaxeei, den tolma oyte ekloges na zhthsei, oyte kata baqos mporei na dianohqei oti mporei na ginoyn ekloges kai na tis kerdisei. Emeis, fysika, exoyme aporricei opoiodhpote tetoio senario, ayto einai jekaqaro. Alla oyte kan antipoliteytika h N.D. tolma na to kanei. Giati akribws antilambanetai oti aytes tis dyskoles hmeres poy pername, katw apo aytes tis dyskoles kai antijoes synqhkes, monon ayth h kybernhsh mporei na bgalei th xwra apo thn krish.

ZAFEIRIADOY: H N.D., ontws den exei zhthsei ekloges. Exoyn zhthsei, omws, oi arxhgoi allwn kommatwn, opws o k. Karatzaferhs, h k. Mpakogiannh esxatws, o k. Tsipras paliotera. Yparxei kapoia apanthsh kai s` ayto; Giati mporei na zhtoyn ekloges;

PETALWTHS: To giati qa prepei na to rwthsete stoys idioys. H apanthsh poy exoyme emeis einai mia kai staqerh, giati ayth einai h apoch mas. Qa htan katastrofiko shmera na milame gia ekloges, apo kaqe apoch. Oxi blaptiko, katastrofiko. Emeis ayto poy exoyme na kanoyme, einai na proxwrhsoyme sto megalo ergo poy xarassoyme kai ylopoioyme gia na bgaloyme th xwra apo thn krish. Kai bgazontas th xwra apo thn krish, parallhla th qwrakizoyme me oles ekeines tis megales allages kai tomes poy apaitoyntai kai poy qa eprepe na ylopoihqoyn edw kai polles dekaeties, etsi wste na mhn janaperasoyme pote ta idia.

Alla, mias kai legame gia th N.D., h opoia en pollois prospaqei na ekmetalleyqei gia alloys logoys, gia dikoys ths logoys, fwnes akomh kai dikwn mas boyleytwn oi opoioi aplws ekfrazoyn thn agwnia toys, qa hqela pragmatika sto shmeio ayto na mas pei h N.D. kai na sxoliasei, giati akomh kai gia ton k. Androylakh phre qesh. Ekane shmaia ayta poy eipe o k. Androylakhs me enan tropo aparadekto, ypokritiko kai aneilikrinh.

Qa hqela pragmatika na mas pei h N.D., h opoia ypotiqetai exei kanei thn aytokritikh ths aytes tis meres kai malista exoyme kai fwnes apo stelexh ths poy lene ``arketa aytomastigwqhkame'' les kai o ellhnikos laos mporei na trabhjei me ena ``X'' th megalh katastrofh kai to megalo egklhma poy synetelese sth xwra mas, na mas pei - kai qa sas to moirasw - giati mesa apo ayth thn aytokritikh poy ypotiqetai oti kanei, milhsan oloi, ektos apo toys dyo ypaitioys. Prwton, o k. Karamanlhs, o opoios den exei eyaresthqei akomh na milhsei -alla exei dhlwsei mesw kyklwn oti qa milhsei, otan prepei, pantws, edw kai enamish xrono den exei pei tipota- alla, kyriws, o k. Samaras.

Pragmatika, qa hqela, o k. Samaras na sxoliasei ayto to keimeno poy fernw egw shmera edw sthn enhmerwsh twn politikwn syntaktwn kai exei na kanei me to oti o k. Samaras kai to komma toy, h shmerinh N.D., shmera kataggellei ayto poy xrhsimopoioyse kai diafhmize o idios o k. Samaras to 2004. Kai anaferomai sto keimeno, sto apospasma omilias toy k. Samara, ws ypoyrgoy Politismoy sthn tote kybernhsh toy k. Karamanlh, sto Institoyto Dhmokratias Kwnstantinos Karamanlhs, to 2009. Tonizw, to 2009, tesseris mhnes prin apo tis ekloges kai tessera xronia meta thn apografh.

Kai elege tote o k. Samaras: ``H N.D. qwrakise ta teleytaia xronia thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai otan eneskhce h pagkosmia krish, thn brhke poly pio anqektikh''. ``To 2004'', leei o k. Samaras, ``to elleimma sthn Ellada htan panw apo 7% toy AEP, enw oles oi alles xwres eixan elleimmata mikrotera toy 1%. Shmera, mesa sth dieqnh krish kai ej aitias ths, to dhmosionomiko mas elleimma ypologizetai gyrw sto 4-4,5% gia to 2009, enw stis perissoteres alles xwres kymainetai apo 5% ews 13%''(!) Ayta, loipon, elege o k. Samaras kai ta elege me thn idia eyfradeia kai me ton idio stomfo poy ta leei kai shmera. Kai synexize: ``Fantasteite, shmera, mesa sthn krish, h Ellada exase ligotero edafos ap` o,ti oi etairoi ths''(!)

Otan ta elege ayta o k. Samaras h Ellada boyliaze. Apekryptan apo to lao kai apo toys etairoys mas to pragmatiko elleimma, ta pragmatika stoixeia kai koroideyan ton kosmo se tetoio shmeio, poy shmera o k. Samaras den briskei to qarros na zhthsei sygnwmh. Shmera, prospaqoyn na rijoyn ta barh se mia allh N.D., h opoia htan teleiws diaforetikh apo ayth poy einai shmera, omws olws parempiptontws o k. Samaras htan ypoyrgos ths kai mas elege tote, elege ston ellhniko lao, tesseris mhnes prin apo tis ekloges, ayta ta ceydh kai ejapatoyse me ayto ton tropo ton ellhniko lao.

Kai katelhge o k. Samaras: ``H N.D. pragmati qwrakise thn ellhnikh oikonomia. Kai ayto fanhke otan proekyce h dieqnhs krish''.

Dinw ayto to apospasma omilias toy k. Samara pros xrhsh sas - isws to exete dhmosiografika - gia na mas ejhghsei o k. Samaras, gia na mas sxoliasei o ekproswpos Typoy ths N.D., ti pragmatika synebh, ti ginetai kai pws dikaiologeitai gi` ayta poy elege tote kai shmera bazei oloys toys symboyloys toy na bgainoyn sta kanalia, na bgainoyn sta Mesa, na bgainoyn me perissio qrasos kai na lene oti h N.D. ekane mia apografh poy htan egklhmatikh, mia apografh kai mia stash politikhs, thn opoia o k. Samaras ekqeiaze tote me plhrh syneidhsh, otan apekrypte to elleimma, apekrypte th megalh katastrofh poy efere h N.D. ston topo, ekeino to xroniko diasthma.

Pragmatika, qa perimenw enan sxoliasmo apo toys lalistatoys ekproswpoys ths N.D. kai kyriws apo ton k. Samara, apo ton opoio perimenoyme na swsei th xwra kai mesa apo to ``Zappeio 2''!!!

ZAFEIRIADOY: Ap' o,ti antilambanomai, oi ekloges den einai sta sxedia sas.

PETALWTHS: Kaqoloy.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Xqes, omws, akoysa dyo ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, ton k. Benizelo sto ``RADIO 9'' poy eipe oti yparxei mia ``kopwsh'' kai thn kyria Xristofilopoyloy, h opoia, mesa apo th syxnothta toy  FLASH - an den kanw laqos - poy eipe oti ``opoios einai koyrasmenos, na paei sto spiti toy''. Mhpws, loipon, o anasxhmatismos qa htan mia kalyterh lysh;

PETALWTHS: An den kanoyme ekloges, qa kanoyme anasxhmatismo!!! Einai to gnwsto senario. Den mas apasxoloyn ayta.

Gia tis ekloges, to exoyme aporricei to senario ayto poy akoygetai kai akoygotan, exei kopasei ligo twra, eytyxws. Giati kai den exei kamia pragmatikh bash, alla kai h eklogologia kanei poly megalh zhmia kai sthn oikonomia mas, pera apo thn politikh zwh. Kai ayto qa prepei oloi na to antilhfqoyme, dhladh, to na milame synexeia gia ekloges, otan den yparxei periptwsh na ginoyn ekloges. Oxi aplws den yparxei logos na ginoyn ekloges, enamish xrono meta apo thn analhch twn kaqhkontwn ayths ths kybernhshs, alla kati tetoio qa htan katastrofiko.

Malista, to antiqeto exoyme anagkh: Na exoyme mia kybernhsh, h opoia staqera ylopoiei toys sxediasmoys ths, mia kybernhsh h opoia den arneitai na dei thn pragmatikothta, na thn apotypwsei, na pei thn alhqeia ston ellhniko lao kai na apofasisei lyseis. Kata synepeia, akribws to antiqeto einai anagkaio.

Alla kai gia ton anasxhmatismo, symbainoyn kai isxyoyn ta idia. Emeis proxwrame. H kybernhsh proxwraei kai apodeiknyei oti paragei ergo. To oti yparxei enas ``odikos xarths'', to oti yparxei ena mesoproqesmo sxedio mexri to 2015 poy akomh kai th dikh mas kybernhtikh qhteia jeperna, deixnei akribws oti ayth h kybernhsh den stereitai oyte dynamewn, oyte sxediwn, oyte apofasewn.

Synepws, oyte ekloges syzhtoyntai - prokeitai gia senario entelws episthmonikhs fantasias - oyte kai yfistatai anagkh anasxhmatismoy, qa elega malista oyte kan san skech na ginetai.

MARAQIAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw kati gia to Ellhniko: Telika, to ergo ayto qa to analabei sthn olothta toy to Katar; Dhladh, o sxediasmos, h ektelesh kai h ajiopoihsh toy xwroy qa ginei apo thn etaireia toy Katar h empleketai telika kai o arxitektonas Aqempigio s' ayto to ergo;

PETALWTHS: Se ligh wra qa dwsei synenteyjh o ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Pampoykhs. Einai o armodios ypoyrgos, o opoios qa anaferqei se oles tis leptomereies. Egw eqesa to politiko plaisio. Antilambaneste oti oi leptomereies toy sygkekrimenoy project einai para polles kai einai prowro na anakoinwqoyn. Yparxei h politikh boylhsh, yparxei h apofash, ginontai oles ekeines oi diapragmateyseis kai oi synomilies me toys endiaferomenoys, etsi wste na katalhjoyme se mia symfwnia. Apo ekei kai pera, fysika qa yparjei plhrhs diafaneia, qa yparjei safhs prosdiorismos twn meswn kai twn stoxwn poy exoyme qesei ws kybernhsh, wste na enhmerwqeite plhrws kai eseis oi leitoyrgoi toy Typoy, alla kai o ellhnikos laos.

MARAQIAS: Ti orizonta exei ayto to ergo;

PETALWTHS: Kai ayto poy me rwtate einai leptomereia.

MARAQIAS: Dhladh, qa einai entos ths tetraetias Papandreoy;

PETALWTHS: Emeis qeloyme na ginei me ton kalytero kai ton taxytero tropo, xwris omws - epanalambanw - na apempoloyme basikes ajies poy einai o sebasmos sto periballon, h nomimothta, h diafaneia, h katoxyrwsh ths beltiwshs ths poiothtas ths zwhs. Ola ayta poy synocizontai se dyo lejeis: Dhmosio Symferon.

MARAQIAS: Kai kati teleytaio: Sthn kritikh poy askeitai kai apo thn efhmerida ``ELEYQEROTYPIA'' yparxei ena qema poy mpainei peri idias taktikhs me th N.D., dhladh, mia politikh yper twn filwn kai twn kollhtwn. Afhnontai tetoia yponooymena, genikws, apenanti sthn kybernhsh Papandreoy. Yparxei kapoio sxolio gi' ayto;

PETALWTHS: An mas entopizan pws apodeiknyontai ayta peri ``filwn'' kai ``kollhtwn'', qa mporoysame na ta apanthsoyme kiolas. Emeis kanoyme mia poly megalh prospaqeia, eqnikh prospaqeia. Den doyleyoyme me koymparoys kai me filoys kai me kollhtoys, aplws gia na toys bolecoyme -ayto einai jekaqaro - opws ginotan epi N.D. Emeis eimaste aytoi oi opoioi qesame tetoioys qesmoys opws einai to  opengov. gia to opoio polloi ap' aytoys poy mas kathgoroyn shmera, mas kathgoroysan giati argoysame na topoqethsoyme Genikoys Grammateis kai alloys anwtatoys kratikoys leitoyrgoys se qeseis politikhs eyqynhs. Epiprosqetws, h plhrhs diafaneia sth leitoyrgia mas apodeiknyetai kai apo th xrhsh twn stelexwn poy epandrwnoyn tis politikes qeseis, afoy oi perissoteroi apo ayta ta stelexh den eixan kamia gnwrimia me kanenan ypoyrgo, opws ginotan sto parelqon, opoy kaqe ypoyrgos diorize to Geniko Grammatea toy kai mia oloklhrh seira stelexwn se kaqe ypoyrgeio. Emeis eimaste anoiktoi. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti den prepei na proxwrame taxista stis megales apofaseis. Kanoyme kai ta dyo kai me ton kalytero tropo. Osoi ypainissontai to antiqeto, einai diko toys problhma. H entimothta ayths ths kybernhshs exei apodeixqei sthn prajh kai sth zwh kata thn 18mhnh diarkeia ths mexri twra qhteias ths kai ayto ontws apotelei pasidhlo gegonos.

KEXAGIA: Eipate oti to poios symfwnei me tis kinhseis kai thn politikh ths kybernhshs kai gia poio logo to kanei, einai ena qema poy shkwnei megalh koybenta. Gia poio logo o k. Mhtsotakhs anoije tetoia syzhthsh, qewreite;

PETALWTHS: Apanthsa prohgoymenws oti egw den mporw na ermhneysw giati o k. Mhtsotakhs ekane ayth thn parembash. O k. Mhtsotakhs exei toys dikoys toy logoys. Exei kai proswpikoys- oikogeneiakoys logoys na kanei parembaseis, pera apo tis politikes parembaseis poy kanei. Einai dikaiwma toy. Fysika, den sxoliazoyme tis parembaseis toy k. Mhtsotakh. Ayto einai aytonohto.

PITTARAS: Plhroforhqhkame oti o armodios ypoyrgos anakoinwse plafon sthn timh ths benzinhs. Ayto einai mia kinhsh. Skepteste kaqoloy, ejetazete na meiwsete kai ton eidiko foro katanalwshs gia na anakoyfisete toys polites;

PETALWTHS: Ontws, anakoinwqhke apo ton armodio ypoyrgo, ton k. Xrysoxoidh, h epibolh plafon stis times twn kaysimwn. Prokeitai, omws, gia mia apofash xronika periorismenh kai topikoy xarakthra. Ayto egine giati akribws apodeixqhke oti kapoioi kerdoskopoyn eis baros twn politwn. Kai gi' ayton akribws ton logo mphke kai to plafon.

H meiwsh toy eidikoy foroy katanalwshs qa meiwne ta esoda, ta opoia malista exoyn problefqei ston Proypologismo, pragma poy den mporoyme na apofasisoyme shmera, logw twn synqhkwn poy biwnoyme. Einai diaforetika pragmata. Kai malista, otan yparxoyn anagkes poy ypagoreyontai apo thn krisimothta twn stigmwn, den qa mporoyse na ginei kati tetoio, toylaxiston twra.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Xqes, eixame mia kloph se mia bash ycisths asfaleias sto Naytiko sta Spata. Hqela na rwthsw ean exei jekinhsei kapoia diadikasia ereynas kai ti mporei na shmainei gia thn asfaleia toy kratoys.

PETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw to sygkekrimeno qema. Einai ena qema eidiko, armodiothtas toy ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas, sto opoio sas parapempw, prokeimenoy na exete amesh enhmerwsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-315726155-1304439669=:18262--


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