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The Hellenic Radio (ERA): News in Greek, 02-09-08

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From: The Hellenic Radio (ERA) <www.ert.gr/>

PERIEXOMENA

  • [01] Se anamonh gia apologia Koyfontina
  • [02] Drash apo koinoy kata ths ''irakinhs apeilhs''
  • [03] Nepal: Polynekroi epiqesh antartwn kata astynomikwn
  • [04] Oikonomikh anaptyjh kai staqerothta
  • [05] Ellhnikh htta sth Lewforo

    [01] Se anamonh gia apologia Koyfontina

    8/9/2002 10:26:00 pm

    H wra ths apologias eftase gia ton Dhmhtrh Koyfontina. Shmera, stis 13:00 qa odhghqei ston eidiko efeth anakrith Lewnida Zerbompeako. Sto metajy, to krhsfygeto toy feromenoy ws arxiektelesth ths "17N" entopisthke se erhmikh topoqesia sto Agkistri. Symfwna me thn antitromokratikh, o Koyfontinas krybotan sthn perioxh perissotero apo ena mhna, enw h paroysia toy ekei epibebaiwnetai kai apo ta apotypwmata toy se antikeimena poy breqhkan sto sygkekrimeno shmeio. Gia syntaraktikes apokalyceis kanei logo o S. Jhros.

    S.Jhros: ''Apokalyceis pera apo kaqe fantasia''

    H Antitromokratikh Yphresia efqase sth skhnh-krhsfygeto toy "Lamproy", opoy krybotan gia perissotero apo 40 hmeres, sthn erhmikh topoqesia Xalikiada. Ekei espeyse h yphresia, meta apo ajiopoihsh thlefwnhmatos polith, poy eixe dei ton katazhtoymeno prin apo hmeres na mpainei sth skhnh kai ton anagnwrise molis eide tis dhmosieymenes fwtografies meta thn paradosh toy.

    Oi astynomikoi sth skhnh brhkan synerga alieias, gennhtria, konserbes, alla kai yliko gia ejoxh, ta opoia perisynelejan kai meteferan sthn Aqhna. Symfwna me katoikoys toy nhsioy, o Koyfontinas kykloforoyse spania, me gyalia kai kapelo tzokei, apefeyge tis opoies synanastrofes kai promhqeyotan efhmerides kai trofima apo pantopwleio toy nhsioy. Se kado aporrimatwn breqhkan apokommata apo efhmerides, royxa kai xarths ths perioxhs.

    O idios o D. Koyfontinas den exei epibebaiwsei thn paramonh toy sto nhsi.

    Thn idia wra, me th grammh Koyfontina sympleoyn oi adelfoi Jhroy epidiwkontas politikh dikh.

    Apo tis fylakes Korydalloy, o Sabbas Jhros dia mesoy ths syntrofoy toy Aliqia Romero Kortez, proeidopoiei me apokalyceis, poy jepernoyn, opws yposthrizei, th dhmosiografikh fantasia.

    Megalyterh analhqeia apo to oti xorhghqhkan ston Jhro farmaka poy ephreasan thn cyxikh toy ygeia den yparxei, dhlwnei kathgorhmatika o kaqhghths Xaralampos Roysos dieyqynths ths Klinikhs Entatikhs qerapeias toy Eyaggelismoy.

    Poinika ta adikhmata

    Wstoso, apantwntas se sxetiko erwthma o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs Filippos Petsalnikos, tonise oti ''h anairesh twn kataqesewn einai gnwsto fainomeno stis politikes dikes, alla ayto den allazei thn oysia''. Oson afora sta peri politikhs eyqynhs poy proebale o Dhmhtrhs Koyfontinas, o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs anefere ''ta peri politikhs eyqynhs gia eidexqeis prajeis den shmainoyn kati. To adikhma einai poiniko kai den allazei tipota''.

    "H kybernhsh den prokeitai na anoijei dialogo me toys tromokrates kai thn tromokratia", dhlwse o ypoyrgos Typoy Xrhstos Prwtopapas, enw apo th Qessalonikh o ypoyrgos Dhmosias Tajhs Mixalhs Xrysoxoidhs, tonise pws h ellhnikh koinwnia einai yperhfanh gia tis megales epityxies ths ellhnikhs astynomias.

    Safhs kai kathgorhmatikh apanthsh apo ton ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs Filippo Petsalniko, gia to endexomeno ekdoshs twn tromokratwn.

    En tw metajy, nees syllhceis gia tis organwseis ths 1hs Mah kai toy ELA anamenontai apo thn Antitromokratikh apo to erxomeno dekahmero. Prokeitai gia melh twn 2 organwsewn ta stoixeia twn opoiwn prokyptoyn apo kataqeseis alla kai parakoloyqhseis politwn poy exoyn ginei apo thn Antitromokratikh Yphresia.

    [02] Drash apo koinoy kata ths ''irakinhs apeilhs''

    Mpetty Saboyrdoy 8/9/2002 11:15:00 pm

    ''Oi Hnwmenes Politeies kai h Bretania qa epidiwjoyn th megalyterh dieqnh yposthrijh gia na antimetwpisoyn thn apeilh poy synistoyn ta opla mazikhs katastrofhs poy diaqetei to Irak'', tonise o Bretanos prwqypoyrgos Toni Mpler, meta tis synomilies poy eixe sto Kamp Nteibint me ton proedro Mpoys, sxetika me to endexomeno xtyphmatos enantion ths Bagdaths. Oi Sirak-Srenter antiqetoi se monomerh epiqesh twn HPA.

    ''O kindynos toy Irak prepei na pacei''

    Symfwna me tis dhlwseis toy Bretanoy prwqypoyrgoy Toni Mpler epeita apo th synanthsh toy me ton proedro Mpoys sto Kamp Nteibint, oi dyo antres symfwnhsan oti "o kindynos apo ta opla mazikhs katastrofhs toy Irak einai yparktos kai prepei na pacei mia kai kalh".

    O Mpler ypogrammise oti oi dyo hgetes ekfrazoyn "thn idia apofasistikothta" gia na antimetwpisoyn thn "pragmatika alhqinh apeilh" poy einai o proedros toy Irak, Santam Xoysein, katoxos oplwn mazikhs katastrofhs.

    O Mpler ypogrammise oti gia tis HPA kai th Bretania "den yparxei kamia amfibolia oti to irakino kaqestws sygkentrwnei opla mazikhs katastrofhs edw kai kairo" prosqetontas oti o Santam Xoysein prospaqhse na apokthsei pyrhnika opla, pragma poy apotelei apeilh gia to synolo ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Oson afora thn piqanh stratiwtikh epembash enantion toy Irak, o Mpler eipe oti "o tropos antimetwpishs ths apeilhs paramenei anoixto erwthma" prosqetontas oti "o kosmos prepei na einai sigoyros oti qa xeiristoyme thn katastash me synesh kai logikh".

    Oi dyo hgetes apofasisan oti kati tetoio prepei na ginei me poly prosektiko tropo kai afoy ejasfalistei h megalyterh dynath synainesh ths dieqnoys koinothtas.

    O Mpoys, meta tis triwres synomilies poy eixe me ton stenotero symmaxo toy, den ekane kamia dhlwsh.

    Sthn omilia toy ston OHE thn epomenh ebdomada o Tzortz Mpoys qa tonisei, symfwna me plhrofories, stoys hgetes ths dieqnoys koinothtas oti exoyn akomh mia teleytaia eykairia na piesoyn ton Santam Xoysein na dexqei thn epistrofh twn epiqewrhtwn toy OHE, eidallws oi HPA qa proxwrhsoyn se monomerh epiqesh enantion toy Irak.

    Pantws, Amerikanoi ajiwmatoyxoi synexizoyn na dhlwnoyn oti, sto telos, h stratiwtikh drash qa einai anapofeykth.

    Antidraseis apo Gallia-Germania

    To Irak exei panta thn proqesh na apokthsei pyrhnika opla, mporei omws na xreiastei ennea xronia prin apokthsei thn ikanothta na kanei kati tetoio, anaferei o Amerikanos ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn Kolin Paoyel se synenteyjh toy poy qa metadoqei shmera apo to bretaniko thleoptiko diktyo BBC.

    Wstoso, h Germania kai h Gallia epanelaban thn antiqesh toys se endexomenh monomerh epiqesh enantion toy Irak. Epeita apo synanthsh toy me ton Gallo proedro Zak Sirak, o Germanos Kagkelarios Gkerxarnt Srenter dhlwse pws ta metra poy tyxon lhfqoyn enantion toy Irak prepei na exoyn thn egkrish toy Symboylioy Asfaleias toy OHE kai thn yposthrijh twn xwrwn ths Meshs Anatolhs. O idios tonise epishs oti o stoxos opoiwndhpote kyrwsewn epiblhqoyn sto Irak, prepei na einai h epistrofh asfaleias twn epiqewrhtwn toy OHE sth xwra.

    O Skot Riter, prwhn epiqewrhths toy OHE ypeyqynos gia ton afoplismo toy Irak, brisketai shmera sth Bagdath opoy qa milhsei sto irakino Koinoboylio, anakoinwse to ypoyrgeio Plhroforhshs. O Riter prepei na apanthsei stis erwthseis twn melwn toy koinoboylioy sth diarkeia synodoy ths olomeleias toy swmatos sto telos toy prwinoy, h opoia qa einai anoixth gia toys dhmosiografoys, anaferei anakoinwsh toy kentroy typoy toy ypoyrgeioy.

    O k. Riter, Amerikanos prwhn pezonayths, eixe paraithqei apo thn eidikh epitroph toy OHE gia ton afoplismo toy Irak (UNSCOM) to 1998 kai xarakthrise ta amerikano-bretanika plhgmata sto Irak, meta thn apoxwrhsh twn epiqewrhtwn, "tromero laqos", kaqws Amerikanoi kai Bretanoi "bombardizan gia na bombardisoyn".

    Perysi o k. Riter eixe dhlwsei oti to Irak exei afoplistei kata 98% kai den exei ta mesa na apanejoplistei gia na apeilhsei toys geitones toy. O Riter tassetai yper ths arshs toy empargko poy exei epiblhqei apo ton Aygoysto toy 1990 sth xwra, se antallagma me thn epibolh makroproqesmhs epithrhshs toy irakinoy oplostasioy.

    Amerikanikh dhmoskophsh: Asafh ta epixeirhmata Mpoys

    Perissoteroi apo toys misoys Amerikanoys dhlwnoyn oti o Leykos Oikos qa prepei na dwsei safeis ejhghseis gia to qema ths endexomenhs stratiwtikhs epembashs kata toy Irak, anaferetai se sfygmometrhsh poy egine gia logariasmo twn "New York Times" kai toy CBS News, kai doqhke shmera sth dhmosiothta.

    H sfygmometrhsh poy dhmosieyetai sto shmerino fyllo ths efhmeridas "New York Times" anaferei epishs oti pleiochfia twn Amerikanwn qelei yposthrijh toy Kogkresoy kai twn symmaxikwn xwrwn gia th stratiwtikh drash kata toy Irak, kaqws kai oti h yposthrijh pros thn politikh toy proedroy Mpoys paramenei se ychla epipeda, an kai exei shmeiwsei kapoia ptwsh se sxesh me ton Ioylio.

    Apo toys 937 enhlikes poy erwthqhkan thlefwnika apo thn Deytera kai ews thn Pempth, to 64% dhlwse oti h kybernhsh Mpoys den exei akomh ejhghsei safws th qesh ths se oti afora to Irak, kai to 57% apo aytoys poy ejefrasan thn apoch oti mia epiqesh einai anagkaia ekfrazei kai twra thn idia apoch. Ta dyo trita twn erwthqentwn dhlwnoyn oti to eqnos prepei na perimenei gia thn yposthrijh twn symmaxwn, enw ena 25% yposthrizei oti to Irak einai mia toso megalh apeilh poy oi HPA prepei na drasoyn twra. Ena 62% dhlwnei pws qa prepei na zhthqei apo ton Mpoys na ejasfalisei egkrish toy Kogkresoy prin analabei stratiwtikh drash kata toy Irak, pososto mikrotero apo to 71% poy dhlwne akribws ta idia gia to zhthma ayto se sfygmometrhsh toy CBS stis arxes Aygoystoy.

    H egkrish gia thn politikh Mpoys fqanei to 63%, mikroterh apo to 70% poy htan sta mesa Ioylioy kai to peripoy 80% poy htan to perasmeno fqinopwro kai ton xeimwna.

    Kaqws h prwth epeteios gia tis tromokratikes epiqeseis ths 11hs Septembrioy stis HPA plhsiazei, mono 2 apo toys 5 erwthqentes sth dhmoskophsh ayth dhlwnoyn oti h kybernhsh exei kanei arketa gia na toys prostateysei apo mia nea tromokratikh epiqesh.

    To pososto laqoys sth sfygmometrhsh ayth einai +-3.

    Phges: NET 105,8, APE, BBC

    [03] Nepal: Polynekroi epiqesh antartwn kata astynomikwn

    8/9/2002 11:44:00 pm

    Toylaxiston 40 astynomikoi skotwqhkan kai alloi 19 traymatisthkan se epiqesh enantion staqmoy ths astynomias, poy ejapelysan maoistes antartes sto Mpimant, anatolika ths Katmantoy.

    [04] Oikonomikh anaptyjh kai staqerothta

    8/9/2002 10:38:00 pm

    Kinhtopoihsh olwn twn paragwgikwn dynamewn ths xwras kai eidikotera aytwn ths Qessalonikhs kai ths Boreias Elladas, zhthse o prwqypoyrgos, prokeimenoy na diasfalistei oti h dieqnhs krish den qa ginei aitia na anaireqoyn oi katakthseis ths ellhnikhs oikonomias. O k. Shmiths ekane thn ekklhsh xqes to brady, apeyqynontas syntomo xairetismo sth diarkeia epishmoy deipnoy poy parateqhke pros timhn toy apo th Dieqnh Ekqesh Qessalonikhs, sto synedriako kentro ''I. Bellidhs''. Shmera, h trihmerh episkech toy prwqypoyrgoy sthn DEQ, oloklhrwnetai me thn kaqierwmenh synenteyjh ef' olhs ths ylhs.

    Erga ypodomhs kai isotimia me eyrwpaika krath

    Kata th diarkeia ths omilias toy, o prwqypoyrgos tonise oti prepei na synexistei h prospaqeia gia na diathrhqoyn aqiktes oi nees baseis ths oikonomias, h opoia prepei na synexisei sthn troxia taxyryqmhs anaptyjhs. Kai ayto, giati etsi dhmioyrgeitai ploytos, meiwnetai h anergia, diasfalizetai koinwnikh eirhnh, h allhleggyh kai h synoxh alla kai epitaxynetai h sygklish me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh stoys tomeis ths paragwgikothtas kai ths antagwnistikothtas ths oikonomias.

    Me ayto ton tropo, prosqese o k. Shmiths, mporoyme na enisxysoyme thn ikanothta ths ellhnikhs oikonomias na leitoyrgei isotima me tis alles eyrwpaikes koinwnies kai na eggyatai thn asfaleia ths xwras se ena dyskolo dieqnes periballon.

    Se ayth thn prospaqeia, opws tonise o prwqypoyrgos, entassontai kai ola ta megala sxedia ypodomhs poy ekteloyntai sth Boreia Ellada kai apeyqynomenos sthn epixeirhmatikh koinothta toy boreioy tmhmatos ths xwras, anaferqhke eidikotera sto rolo ths Qessalonikhs, alla kai ths eyryterhs perioxhs, tonizontas oti einai enas rolos poy yperbainei ta oria ths ellhnikhs epikrateias.

    H Qessalonikh sto epikentro twn ejelijewn

    Ton sygkekrimeno rolo, prosqese o k. Shmiths, shmatodotoyn treis poly shmantikes ejelijeis.

    Prwton, me thn energopoihsh toy ellhnikoy sxedioy gia thn anaptyjh twn Balkaniwn. Me bash to sxedio ayto, problepetai h epidothsh apo ellhnikoys poroys ependysewn poy qa ginoyn stis balkanikes xwres kai oi opoies kymainontai apo 300.000 ews 5 ek. eyrw ana ependysh.

    Opws eipe o prwqypoyrgos, prokeitai gia ena sxedio poy dinei eykairies stis ellhnikes mikromesaies epixeirhseis na epektaqoyn sta Balkania. O idios ypogrammise oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa einai konta toys kai qa bohqhsei tis prospaqeies ths ellhnikhs epixeirhmatikhs koinothtas. Epishs, tonise oti h Qessalonikh exei oles tis proypoqeseis na ginei ena megalo xrhmatooikonomiko kai emporiko kentro kaqws kai ena kentro paroxhs yphresiwn gia ta Balkania.

    Deyteron, me th diorganwsh ths Synodoy Koryfhs ton Ioynio toy 2003 poy qa ginei sthn symprwteyoysa, ypogrammizontas oti ayto shmatodotei thn eyrwpaikh diastash ths Qessalonikhs alla kai ths boreias Elladas genikotera. H filojenia ths Synodoy Koryfhs anadeiknyei, opws tonise, thn eyryterh perioxh ths Qessalonikhs ws thn eyrwpaikh kardia twn Balkaniwn.

    Triton, me thn diekdikhsh ths diorganwshs ths EXPO 2008, h opoia, efoson stefqei me epityxia, qa prokeitai gia mia prwth megeqoys dieqnh epityxia poy qa ypogrammizei thn ellhnikh, balkanikh kai eyrwpaikh diastash ths Qessalonikhs, dyo xronia meta th diorganwsh twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn sth xwra mas.

    Telos, o prwqypoyrgos tonise oti h kybernhsh exei deijei emprakta th shmasia poy apodidei sth Qessalonikh kai th Boreia Ellada, prosqetontas oti einai kaqhmerinh frontida ths kybernhshs h epilysh twn problhmatwn poy yparxoyn akoma. Tonise, omws, oti prepei h idia h Qessalonikh kai h Boreia Ellada me th symbolh twn forewn toys na adrajoyn tis eykairies poy anoigontai.

    Sygkentrwseis diamartyrias

    Se asfyktiko astynomiko kloio eixe teqei apo xqes to apogeyma to kentro ths Qessalonikhs, enocei triwn sygkentrwsewn diamartyrias enantion ths oikonomikhs politikhs ths kybernhshs. Oi poreies -toy PAME, twn proskeimenwn sto KKE agrotwn kai toy Ellhnikoy Koinwnikoy Foroym, ths opoias epikefalhs htan o Giannhs Serifhs- kateyqynqhkan pros thn plateia ths XANQ, opoy se mikrh apostash miloyse sto synedriako kentro o prwqypoyrgos.

    Ta epeisodia mikrhs ektasews elhjan nwris, enw h astynomia exei apagoreysei thn proseggish olwn twn aytokinhtwn sto kentro ths polhs.

    [05] Ellhnikh htta sth Lewforo

    Phgh: APE 7/9/2002 11:45:00 mm

    Fwto apo thn proetoimasia

    ths eqnikhs mas

    Den ta katafere h eqnikh mas omada sthn premiera twn prokrimatikwn toy eyrwpaikoy prwtaqlhmatos toy 2004, afoy exase shmera sto ghpedo ths Lewforoy apo thn Ispania me 2-0, paroysia 15.000 qeatwn. Ta termata twn Ispanwn petyxan oi Raoyl sto 8o lepto kai Baleron sto 76o lepto ths anametrhshs. To epomeno mats ths eqnikhs mas einai programmatismeno gia tis 12 Oktwbrioy, ektos edras me thn Oykrania.

    To prwto hmixrono jekinhse me thn ellhnikh omada na mpainei sto ghpedo me safestath proqesh kai diaqesh na piesei thn ispanikh omada kai na petyxei kapoio terma poy qa ths edine to probadisma. Apo thn pleyra toys oi Ispanoi prospaqhsan na elegjoyn ton ryqmo enw anaptyssontan (kyriws) apo ta aristera me ton poly kalo Biqente. Allwste, ayto to eixe epishmanei kai o omospondiakos texnikos ths eqnikhs mas Oto Rexagkel, o opoios eixe tonisei pws oi Ispanoi htan poly dynatoi apo ta aristera kai gi'ayto eixe epilejei toys Giannakopoylo-Patsatzogloy gia thn dejia pteryga ths eqnikhs mas poy gnwrizei o enas to paixnidi toy alloy apo ton Olympiako.

    Ola ayta mexri to 8o lepto otan meta apo tragiko laqos toy Nikopolidh o Biqente "estrwse" thn mpala ston Raoyl o opoios apo to ycos ths perioxhs me omorfo deji plase anoije to skor gia toys "foyrias roxas". Apo ekeino to shmeio kai meta h ellhnikh omada, poy jafniasthke apo thn ejelijh toy agwna, exase ton ryqmo ths kai prospaqoyse kata kyrio logo me baqies mpalies (Tsartas) na brei eite ton Nikolaidh (poy talaipwrhse arketa thn ispanikh amyna) eite ton Xaristea.

    Kaqoristiko shmeio toy agwna htan h fash toy endekatoy leptoy otan o Xaristeas breqhke monos toy apenanti ston Kasigias, o teleytaios ton anetrece ligo ejw apo thn perioxh alla o Merk (mas exei synhqisei se tetoia) edeije na synexistei to paixnidi. Opws eykola katalabainei kaneis, ean o Merk eixe efarmosei toys kanonismoys sthn sygkekrimenh fash o Kasigias qa eblepe thn kokkinh karta ws teleytaios paikths kai me ton Xaristea se profanh qesh gia gkol.

    Apo ekeino to shmeio kai meta o ryqmos epese, oi Ispanoi den mporesan na broyn diadromoys sthn amyna ths eqnikhs logw toy poly kaloy Della alla kai h ellhnikh omada eixe fanera problhmata anaptyjhs, afoy ta perimene ola apo ton Tsarta. Sto 40o lepto se mia sygkroysh toy Baleron me ton Kwnstantinidh o teleytaios traymatisthke, den mporese na synexisei, kai o Rexagkel erije sthn maxh ton Karagkoynh, etsi wste o paikths toy Panaqhnaikoy na bohqhsei ton Tsarta sthn dhmioyrgia toy paixnidioy. To prwto hmixrono brhke toys Ispanoys na prohgoyntai me 1-0.

    Sto deytero hmixrono h eqnikh mas me thn eisodo toy Mpasina (anti toy Zagorakh) ston agwnistiko xwro phre ta hnia toy mats. Malista sto 56o lepto o Mpasinas eklece thn mpala apo thn ispanikh amyna, eide ton Kasigias ektos qeshs, epixeirhse chlokremasto soyt alla h mpala brhke to orizontio dokari toy ispanikoy termatos. Ayth htan kai h kalyterh eykairia ths Elladas mexri ekeinh th stigmh. Ena lepto argotera o Xaristeas ekane thn sentra apo thn aristerh pleyra, o Nikolaidhs epiase thn kefalia (caraki) alla h mpala katelhje ligo aoyt kai h ellhnikh omada edeixne na exei tis dynatothtes na isofarisei to mats.

    H antidrash toy Iniaki Saeq htan amesh, Mentieta-Mparaxa mphkan ston agwna kai oi Ispanoi anekthsan ton elegxo ston xwro toy kentroy. Sto 71o lepto o Rexagkel perase ston agwna ton Zhsh Bryza ws trito epiqetiko se mia prospaqeia na gyrisei ton agwna. Omws oi Ispanoi eixan allh apoch kai sto 76o lepto meta apo sygxish sthn ellhnikh amyna o Raoyl ebgale thn pasa sto Baleron o opoios apo to ycos toy penalti den dyskoleythke na diplasiasei ta termata ths omadas toy. H monh ajiologh fash mexri kai to telos toy agwna pragmatopoihqhke sto 83o lepto otan meta apo sentra o Bryzas epiase thn kefalia alla o poly kalos Kasigias krathse anepafh thn estia toy. Etsi, to 2-0 yper twn Ispanwn htan kai to teliko apotelesma.

    Oi synqeseis:

    Ellada: Nikopolidhs, Patsatzogloy, Fyssas (71' Bryzas), Dellas, Ntampizas, Kwnstantinidhs (40' Karagkoynhs), Zagorakhs (46' Mpasinas), Giannakopoylos, Xaristeas, Tsartas, Nikolaidhs.

    Ispania: Kasigias, Salgkado, Martsena, R. Mprabo, Sezar, Tsabi (60' Mparaxa), Elgkera, Xoakin (60' Mentieta), Biqente, Baleron (87' Sezar), Raoyl.

    Diaithths: Markoys Merk (Germania)

    Kitrines: Karagkoynhs - Salgkado, Elgkera


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