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BRIEFING 26-03-96

Greek Government Press Release Directory

From: "Hellenic Ministry of Press and Mass Media" <pegasus@compulink.gr>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS 26.3.96

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY KAI MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO k. DHMHTRH REPPA META TH SYNEDRIASH THS KYBERNHTIKHS EPITROPHS

* Synedriase h Kybernhtikh Epitroph. Dyo hsan ta qemata syzhthshs sth shmerinh synedriash ths:
-To nomosxedio gia ton eksygxronismo ths leitoyrgias twn DEKO kai
-Ta qemata ta sxetika me thn agrotikh politikh.
* Sta qemata agrotikhs politikhs, meta apo mia emperistatwmenh eishghsh toy armodioy Ypoyrgoy k. Stefanoy Tzoymaka, egine syzhthsh gia arketh wra. Asxolhqhke h Kybernhtikh Epitroph me to synolo twn problhmatwn poy apasxoloyn thn ellhnikh gewrgia. Diatypwqhkan skeceis kai protaseis gia thn antimetwpish aytwn twn problhmatwn. Me ta qemata ths agrotikhs politikhs qa asxolhqei se nea synedriash ths h Kybernhtikh Epitroph, meta tis eortes toy Pasxa.
* Epishs, sxetika me to allo qema poy apasxolhse thn Kybernhtikh Epitroph: Egkriqhke to nomosxedio gia ton eksygxronismo twn DEKO kai prokeitai syntomws na katateqei sth Boylh pros chfish.
-Basikos stoxos toy nomosxedioy einai na dhmioyrghqoyn af'enos mhxanismoi apotelesmatiko- terhs leitoyrgias twn DEKO kai af'eteroy na ejasfalisqoyn synqhkes megalyterhs diafaneias sth diaxeirish, wste na gnwrizei h koinh gnwmh to apotelesma ths ethsias leitoyrgias twn organismwn toy dhmosioy.
-To neo ayto qesmiko ergaleio entassetai se ena eyrytero plegma energeiwn, tis opoies prowqei h Kybernhsh gia thn ayjhsh ths paragwgikothtas kai th megistopoihsh toy koinwnikoy ofeloys apo th leitoyrgia twn Dhmosiwn Epixeirhsewn, Organismwn kai forewn. Qa sas dianemhqei leptomerhs anakoinwsh gia to sygkekrimeno qema.

MOYRTZHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias qa dwsei synenteyjh Typoy gi'ayto to qema stoys armodioys syntaktes;

REPPAS: O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias qa kanei leptomeresterh enhmerwsh.

MIXAHL: Teleiwsame, dhladh, kyrie Ypoyrge, me ta qemata ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs;

REPPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, mh biazesqe! Prepei na epishmanw oti basika shmeia aytoy toy nomosxedioy - exei endiaferon na ta anaferoyme - einai: a) H ajiokratikh epilogh twn dioikhsewn kai h ejasfalish ths synexeias sth dioikhsh, kaqws kai o epanaprosdiorismos toy roloy twn diaforwn organwn ths dioikhshs. b) H diamorfwsh apo tis dioikhseis epixeirhsiakwn sxediwn (twn gnwstwn sas, agglisti, business plans) poy qa kalyptoyn toys stoxoys kai oles tis ptyxes twn drasthriothtwn organwshs kai leitoyrgias ths kaqe epixeirhshs. g) H syntajh symbolaiwn diaxeirishs metajy toy dhmosioy kai ths dioikhshs kaqe dhmosias epixeirhshs, me bash to epixeirhsiako sxedio (gia to opoio milhsa prin) kai o kaqorismos sygkekrimenwn stoxwn, oi opoioi qa prepei na epiteyxqoyn, kaqws kai o kaqorismos deiktwn parakoloyqhshs orismenwn basikwn megeqwn ths leitoyrgias aytwn twn Organismwn. d) O elegxos twn dioikhsewn twn Organismwn aytwn apo thn Kybernhsh, me bash ta apotelesmata se sxesh me toys prokaqorismenoys stoxoys kai h epibrabeysh h h epibolh kyrwsewn, analogws opoy akribws syntrexoyn logoi.
-Pisteyoyme pws einai mia shmantikh nomoqetikh eksygxronistikh prwtoboylia ayth, h opoia problepei to neo kaqestws sth leitoyrgia twn DEKO.
* Shmera, stis 9.45 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos dexqhke sto Megaro Majimoy meta apo aithma toy teleytaioy ton Presbeyth ths Toyrkias sthn Aqhna, o opoios toy epedwse to keimeno twn dhlwsewn toy Prwqypoyrgoy ths Toyrkias k. Mesoyt Gilmaz (sas einai hdh gnwstes oi dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy Prwqypoyrgoy). O Toyrkos Presbeyths proebh se mia leptomeresterh anaptyjh twn dhlwsewn aytwn pros ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, toy anefere de, proforikws, oti ef'oson epiqymei, mporei na episkefqei thn Toyrkia proskeklhmenos toy omologoy toy k. Mesoyt Gilmaz.
* Apo thn pleyra toy, o Prwqypoyrgos k. Kwstas Shmiths diatypwse pros ton Toyrko Presbh tis qeseis ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs, oi opoies sas einai gnwstes. Kai epanelabe oti den einai dynaton na ginei episkech toy sthn Toyrkia, ypo tis paroyses synqhkes. Tonise kai pali oti qesh ths Ellados einai h ejomalynsh twn sxesewn me th geitonikh xwra, alla ayto bebaiws proypoqetei to sebasmo kai thn thrhsh basikwn kanonwn, toys opoioys prepei kai h Toyrkia sthn prajh na apodexqei, wste na ejomalynqoyn oi sxeseis twn dyo xwrwn.
* Xqes eixame tis syzhthseis sto plaisio toy Symboylioy Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, en ocei toy programmatisqentos Symboylioy Syndeshs Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - Toyrkias (gia thn efarmogh ths symfwnias telwneiakhs enwshs E.E. - Toyrkias).
-To Symboylio Syndeshs, gnwrizete oti den qa pragmatopoihqei. Kai toyto ofeiletai, akribws, sthn arnhsh ths Toyrkias na labei meros, eyqys ws elabe gnwsh toy keimenoy twn xwrwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, to opoio diatypwqhke sth bash qesewn poy h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh eixe eishghqei. Qeseis poy qewroyme oti kalyptoyn tis epidiwjeis, tis opoies eixame qesei en ocei toy Symboylioy Syndeshs.
-Lypoymeqa gi'ayth thn ejelijh. Qewroyme oti to keimeno ayto perilambanei aytonohtes qeseis. Kai qa prepei apo oloys to keimeno ayto na ginetai dekto. Den katanooyme poios mporei na diafwnei me th diatypwsh tetoiwn qesewn arxwn se ena politiko keimeno. Qewroyme pws h drasthriothta, thn opoia aneptyje h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, odhghse sto na yparjei ayth h symfwnia twn xwrwn-melwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs sto keimeno sto opoio diatypwnontai oi qeseis poy anaferontai:
* Sto sebasmo toy Dieqnoys Dikaioy, twn Dieqnwn Synqhkwn kai Symfwniwn.
* Sthn katadikh ths xrhshs bias kai twn apeilwn gia xrhsh bias.
* Sthn anazhthsh ths epilyshs twn opoiwn diaforwn mesw twn dieqnwn nomikwn organwn, idiaiterws toy Dieqnoys Dikasthrioy ths Xaghs, apo opoia xwra (en prokeimenw apo thn Toyrkia) qewrei oti yfistatai opoiodhpote problhma to opoio prepei na antimetwpisqei kai na lyqei.
-Sth bash ayth - epanalambanoyme kai pali - emeis, ws xwra, epeidh akribws qeloyme ejomalynsh twn sxesewn me thn Toyrkia, qewroyme pws qa eprepe na ginei dekto ayto to keimeno kai apo thn Toyrkia, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsei to Symboylio Syndeshs, gia to kalo kai ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs (sthn opoia symperilambanw kai thn Ellada) kai gia th dhmioyrgia newn synqhkwn sthn eyryterh perioxh: Synqhkwn asfaleias kai staqerothtas, synqhkwn gia tis opoies ergazetai h Ellada. Kai apotelei h xwra mas ton shmantikotero isws paragonta staqerothtas kai asfaleias sthn perioxh. Ayth einai h politikh mas. S'ayth thn kateyqynsh ergazomeqa kai qa synexisoyme kai sto mellon na ergazomeqa.
-Ayta apo pleyras moy. Eimai etoimos na arxisoyme th syzhthsh mas, akoyw tis erwthseis sas, para to gegonos oti kai o Ypoyrgos twn Ejwterikwn k. Qeodwros Pagkalos parexwrhse synenteyjh pros toys diplwmatikoys syntaktes, ama th epistrofh toy apo tis Bryjelles. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, anejarthta apo ton topo ths synanthshs, o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos dexetai na dei ton Toyrko Prwqypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Qewroyme pws oi synanthseis kai oi syzhthseis poy ginontai s'aytes tis synanthseis prepei na exoyn ena sygkekrimeno antikeimeno. To antikeimeno ayto den mporei para na edrazetai panw se arxes kai kanones, oi opoioi einai sebastoi apo tis pleyres poy pairnoyn meros s'enan tetoio dialogo. H ellhnikh pleyra qewrei pws den yparxoyn aytes oi proypoqe- seis, aytonohtes men, anyparktes omws en prokeimenw kai oxi me dikh mas eyqynh, wste na yparjei ayth h synanthsh kai ayth h syzhthsh. Qeloyme, loipon, empraktws h Toyrkia na syneisferei wste na qemeliwqei ayth h bash panw sthn opoia mporei na yparjei synennohsh. T.

MPERMPERAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mas eipate oti den egine to Symboylio Syndeshs, logw ths arnhshs ths Toyrkias na parei meros. Omws, h Italikh Proedria, se dhlwseis ths, den anefere kati tetoio. Exete kapoio sxolio gi'aytes tis dhlwseis ths Italikhs Proedrias poy eipe oti to Symboylio Syndeshs anablhqhke gia na ejetasqoyn kalytera oi dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz.

REPPAS: To keimeno, sto opoio exoyn katalhjei oi 15 xwres - melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs - epanalambanw - einai ena keimeno poy mas kalyptei. To keimeno ayto den brhke symfwnh thn Toyrkia. O logos gia ton opoio den egine to Symboylio Syndeshs, katalabainete meta ta prohgoymena poy eipa, oti eixe na kanei akribws me thn mh apodoxh apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias toy keimenoy aytoy ypo thn telikh morfh toy. Pisteyw, loipon, oti ayto poy sas eipa, antapokrinetai sta pragmata kai exei na kanei me th diafwnia ths Toyrkias ws pros to keimeno, to opoio oi 15 xwres - melh ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs symfwnhsan na ekdwsoyn.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, kai o Ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Germanias k. Kinkel, oso kai o ekproswpos toy STATE DEPARTMENT xarakthrisan qetikes tis dhlwseis toy Toyrkoy Prwqypoyrgoy k. Gilmaz. Malista, to STATE DEPARTMENT kalese thn Ellada na proxwrhsei sthn kateyqynsh aytwn twn dhlwsewn. To sxolio sas qa hqela.

REPPAS: qa moy epitrecete na sas apanthsw kat' arxas me ena sxolio, filikws, agaphte k. Mpogiopoyle: Ayto apantaei se problhmatismoys h kritikes, tis opoies eseis qetete kat' epanalhch. Deixnei oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh me gnwmona ta eqnika symferonta kai mono staqmizei th qesh ths kai oxi me tis protropes h parotrynseis allwn xwrwn, opws eseis monimws kathgoreite thn Kybernhsh oti kanei. Kleinw thn parenqesh kai lew en prokeimenw:...

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Den katalabainw thn parathrhsh sas ayth.

REPPAS: Bebaiws, thn katalabate.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Eilikrina den thn katanow.

REPPAS: Kyrie Mpogiopoyle, epanerxomai loipon s' ayto to sxolio poy kanw me aformh th dikh sas erwthsh: Kai lew pws apodeiknyetai edw - to antilambanesqe kai monos sas - oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh, ths opoias htan se gnwsh oi dhlwseis kai toy k. Kinkel kai toy k. Mperns, ekane mia epilogh me gnwmona ta eqnika symferonta xwris tis gnwmes aytes (bebaiws, tis ajiologhse kai tis melethse) na tis labei ypoch. Kai ekrathse ayth th stash, me apotelesma na odhghqoyme se ena keimeno, poy bebaiws den egine dekto apo thn Toyrkia kai den pragmatopoihqhke to Symboylio Syndeshs. Qa mporoysan - ayth einai mia qesh poy kai ws diatypwsh apo mas qa htan dekth - oi dhlwseis toy k. Gkilmaz na qewrhqoyn oti einai se qetikh kateyqynsh, efoson eixan to praktiko antikrysma toys, efoson eixan mia emprakth antistoixish me thn pragmatikh politikh poy askei h Toyrkia sthn perioxh kai idiaterws enanti ths Ellados. Kai ayto den synebh. Lene, synhqws, oti ta "qaymata kratoyn treis hmeres"! Telikws, sth dikh mas periptwsh, den krathsan oyte mia hmera! Afoy oi dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz, an qewrhsoyme oti apoteloysan "qaymata" (!) kai oti pragmati htan se qetikh kateyqynsh, oti htan toso kales, apodeixqhke mia mera molis meta pws den epetrecan sthn Toyrkia na synypogracei kai na sfragisei me thn ypografh ths ena keimeno. To opoio - epanalambanw kai pali - den symperilambanei tipote allo, para aytonohtes arxes oi opoies prepei na diepoyn tis sxeseis twn xwrwn. Me ayth thn ennoia, qewroyme oti oi dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz einai kati, poy bebaiws prepei na krinoyme kai na ajiologhsoyme, alla ayto apo to opoio prepei na bgazoyme pantote to teliko symperasma mas einai oi prajeis. Oi sygkekrimenes prajeis. Kai eixame to "dokimasthrio" sth synennohsh poy egine sto plaisio ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, sto opoio apedeixqh oti ayta poy leei h Toyrkia den ta ennoei akribws etsi opws ta leei.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Den jerw an qewreite oti h germanikh kai h amerikanikh pleyra den egnwrizan to pragmatiko periexomeno alhqeias poy ekryban oi dhlwseis Gilmaz, den jerw an lete ayto. Par' ola ayta, qelw na rwthsw me dedomeno to oti oi Amerikanoi kai oi Germanoi, (ekeinoi stoys opoioys h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh apeyqynetai gia na askhsoyn thn epirroh toys, oson afora tis ellhno-toyrkikes sxeseis) pairnoyn mia safestata qetikh stash apenanti sthn Toyrkia, dhmioyrgei enan problhmatismo sthn Kybernhsh oson afora toys prosanatolismoys ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Kanate mia analysh, h opoia qa moy epitrecete na pw...

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Oxi, erwthsh ekana.

REPPAS: Oxi. Kanate mia analysh, h opoia qa moy epitrecete na pw, exei kai kata ayqaireto tropo ena symperasma to opoio egw den dexomai. Eipate oti h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh apeyqynetai s' aytoys toys dyo paragontes (ton amerikaniko kai ton germaniko) prokeimenoy na askhsoyn thn epirroh toy sthn Toyrkia, gia na allajei politikh h Toyrkia. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh den apeyqynetai zhtwntas h kanontas ekklhsh se opoiondhpote prokeimenoy na askhsei thn epirroh ths se opoiondhpote allon. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh epiqymei me mia safh kai sygkekrimenh politikh na exei epikoinwnia kai synennohsh me oles tis xwres, idiaiterws de, me ekeines oi opoies exoyn enan barynonta rolo sth dieqnh koinothta, prokeimenoy na ginoyn katanohtes oi ellhnikes qeseis kai prokeimenoy na ginei apodekto kai na symfwnhqei ena koino plaisio synergasias panw sthn dikh mas politikh. Politikh, h opoia sthrizetai sth logikh, to dikaio kai thn alhqeia. Qewroyme loipon oti - xwris na gnwrizw, ti hjeran oi dyo Kybernhseis gia tis opoies eseis milhsate - h qesh ths Ellhnikhs Kybernhshs me gnwmona to eqniko symferon, einai mia qesh thn opoia qa synantoyn oles oi xwres - kai den ejairw kammia - mprosta toys kaqe fora poy qa xreiazetai na asxolhqoyn me qemata ellhnikoy endiaferontos. Kai ap' ayth th qesh, den prokeitai na apostei h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, mporeite na moy dieykrinisete se poioys ejweyrwpaikoys paragontes anaferotan o k. Pagkalos poy edrasan paraskhniaka xqes;

REPPAS: Jerete, h ennoia toy "paragonta" einai mia ennoia h opoia mporei na dhmioyrghsei sygxysh. Einai mia ennoia - qa moy epitrecete na pw - poy exei mia reystothta. Mporei na einai atomo, mporei na einai foreis, mporei na einai organwmenes omades, mporei na einai kratikes ontothtes. Nomizw oti den exw tipota parapanw na pw s' ayto, oti sto plaisio mias syzhthshs poy kanoyn oi Ypoyrgoi ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, logiko einai na paratiqentai apoceis apo diafores pleyres. Kai oi apoceis aytes otan paratiqentai kai einai diaforetikes me tis apoceis poy ekqetei mia opoiadhpote pleyra, logiko einai na apoteloyn kai mia oiwnei piesh pros ekeinh thn pleyra na allajei th stash ths. Emeis den qeloyme na meinoyme s'ayto to shmeio. Qeloyme perissotero na tonisoyme oti h ellhnikh stash, akomh kai an yphrjan aytes oi pieseis - kai edwsa akribws enan orismo peri toy ti qewrw piesh sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh - kaqoristhke me bash ta eqnika mas symferonta. Kai ayth h stash apefere karpoys, me apotelesma na anablhqei to Symboylio Syndeshs h en pash periptwsei na mhn pragmatopoihqei ena Symboylio Syndeshs to opoio qa agnooyse h qa "gyrize thn plath" stis ellhnikes qeseis, dhladh sta eqnika mas symferonta.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Me sygxwreite, menw me thn aisqhsh oti den apanthsate. To erwthma moy htan oti o k. Pagkalos diapragmateyqhke se ena trapezi poy gyrw toy htan dekatesseris Eyrwpaioi. Milhse gia ejweyrwpaikoys paragontes.

REPPAS: Den parathrhsate kati poy eipa: "Sto plaisio aytwn twn syzhthsewn". Kai otan lew "syzhthseis", ennow tis syzhthseis poy ginontai oxi mono sto periqwrio h kata th diarkeia enos Symboylioy. Giati oi syzhthseis aytes exoyn arxisei edw kai arketo kairo kai einai syzhthseis oi opoies, epeidh akribws aneblhqh to Symboylio, qa synexisqoyn. Logiko einai loipon, polles pleyres na qetoyn tis apoceis toys, qelontas kai h ellhnikh pleyra na enarmonisqei me tis dikes toys apoceis. H ellhnikh pleyra omws apedeije pws staqmizei ta pragmata kai akoloyqei thn politikh h opoia ypagoreyetai apo ta eqnika ths symferonta.

KIAOS: Posh wra krathse h synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Toyrko Presbh;

REPPAS: Peripoy 45 lepta ths wras.

KIAOS: Epeidh anaferqhkate se ena mono qema (kata th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton Toyrko Presbh), to apokleistiko qema ths syzhthsews htan oi dhlwseis toy k. Gilmaz;

REPPAS: Nai, htan to apokleistiko qema.

KIAOS: Alles ptyxes toy qematos, opws p.x. h prosfath krish sta Imia;

REPPAS: Oxi. To apokleistiko qema syzhthshs htan oi dhlwseis poy ekane o k. Gilmaz. O Toyrkos Presbhs epedwse ston Prwqypoyrgo ena keimeno me tis dhlwseis aytes - poy sas einai gnwstes - toy k. Gilmaz kai ekane mia proforikh anaptyjh me bash tis odhgies poy eixe gi' aytes tis qeseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, yparxei kapoia mesolabhsh toy prwhn Prwqypoyrgoy k. Mhtsotakh metajy Toyrkias kai Elladas; Giati egrafh kati tetoio.

REPPAS: Den exw kanena logo na diaceydw tis drasthriothtes toy k. Mhtsotakh otan yparxoyn. As to kanei o idios. Alla den gnwrizei h Kybernhsh na yparxei kapoia prwtoboylia toy k. Mhtsotakh gia tis sxeseis metajy Ellados kai Toyrkias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati egrafh oti yphrje ayth h synanthsh me ton k. Pagkalo kai ekei metefere kapoies...

REPPAS: O k. Pagkalos exei pei oti enhmerwnei paragontes ths politikhs zwhs toy topoy, metajy twn opoiwn kai ton k. Mhtsotakh, alla kai alloys (symboyloys toy k. Ebert, politikoys allwn kommatwn) epi twn ejelijewn sta qemata ths ejwterikhs politikhs. Den einai kainoyrgia eidhsh ayth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pantws, den exete ypoch sas an metefere kati.

REPPAS: Oxi.

KACAMPELHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia to shmerino dhmosieyma toy ELEYQEROY TYPOY;

REPPAS: Peite moy sygkekrimenh erwthsh.

KACAMPELHS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma meta fwtografiwn, to opoio qa exete dei. Mporeite na moy peite poio einai to sxolio ths Kybernhshs;

REPPAS: To sxolio ths Kybernhshs einai to ejhs: Oti o patriwtismos den ekfrazetai kai den ekdhlwnetai di' aytoy toy tropoy kai mono. Opws epishs o patriwtismos den ekdhlwnetai me to "dianemoyme - dikhn dwrwn - metajy twn allwn, CD, gkraboyres k.lp. kai ellhnikes shmaies". Qewrw loipon oti ta qemata ayta, parakalw na mhn ta krinoyme toso stenoxwra kai stenokarda, me prisma tetoias mikrokommatikhs skopimothtas, giati etsi qa bgaloyme th megalh pleiochfia twn Ellhnwn ws steroymenwn eqnikhs eyaisqhsias. Kai jerete poly kala oti ayto den symbainei. Kai en pash periptwsei pisteyw oti einai atyxhs ayth h anafora sth mh anarthsh shmaiwn se orismenes oikies. Para to oti den exw kammia antirrhsh, qa htan para poly wraio h Ellada tis hmeres ths Eqnikhs mas eorths na pleei sta galanoleyka kai kaqe spiti na exei th dikh toy shmaia. Mh fanei oti eimai antiqetos s' ayto, alla parakalw mh bgazete kai symperasmata peri elleicews patriwtismoy, otan den exei anarthqei h ellhnikh shmaia, epeidh ayto ejyponoeite me thn erwthsh sas.

ELENOPOYLOS: Ektos apo to qema twn DEKO kai thn agrotikh politikh, syzhthqhke allo qema kata th shmerinh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs;

REPPAS: Oxi den syzhthqhke kanena allo qema sthn Kybernhtikh Epitroph.

ELENOPOYLOS: Oyte eteqh apo kapoion Ypoyrgo;

REPPAS: Den eteqh kanena allo qema.
* Qelw na anaferqw se mia anakoinwsh ths dieyqynshs enhmerwshs toy Ypoyrgeioy Eqnikhs Amynas. H anakoinwsh anaferei oti den eginan parabiaseis toy eqnikoy mas enaerioy xwroy kata th xqesinh hmera, oyte parabaseis twn kanonwn enaerioy kykloforias sthn perioxh toy FIR Aqhnwn. Enw ayth einai h alhqeia (h anakoinwsh einai sth diaqesh sas, thn exoyn hdh labei oi stratiwtikoi syntaktes) apo thn allh yphrje mia probolh gegonotwn, ta opoia paroysiasth- kan ws parabiaseis toy eqnikoy mas enaerioy xwroy h sta xwrika mas ydata. Kai nomizw oti ayth h yperbolh me ton tropo poy ginetai dinei thn entypwsh oti yparxei ena klima - den qa to elega polemikhs ysterias - alla en pash periptwsei ena klima yperbolhs. Den einai ayth h pragmatikothta. Kai parakalw para poly mh dinoyme thn entypwsh oti emeis eimaste se mia agxwdh kai agwniwdh entash, emeis ws xwra...

KARASABBA: Afoy o Ekproswpos toy GEN den dieceyse xqes oti yphrxan parabiaseis.

REPPAS: Oxi, isa - isa eipe oti se poly liges periptwseis (dyo - treis) yphrje mia kinhtikothta twn naytikwn dynamewn, h opoia mporei na xarakthristei "mh ablabhs". Ayto omws einai kati diaforetiko apo ekeino to opoio proeblhqh xqes ws mia systhmatikh parabiash toy eqnikoy mas xwroy. Pisteyw oti den antapokrinetai sthn alhqeia. Kai sas parakalw s'ayta, to exw pei kai alles fores, qa prepei na exoyme ena metro idiaiterhs prosoxhs.
Sas eyxaristw.

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