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Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-12-14

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 14 Dekembrioy 2001

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Shmera arxizei h Synodos Koryfhs toy Laaken. Einai istorikh Synodos. Exei shmasia gia to mellon ths Eyrwphs, gia to poia Eyrwph qeloyme. Qa prokycei mia dhlwsh sxetika me th sygkrothsh ths dieyrymenhs Eyrwphs, sthn opoia qa perilambanontai to periexomeno ths dieyrymenhs Enwmenhs Eyrwphs kai oi oroi. Bebaiws, yparxoyn kai qemata leitoyrgias ths dieyrymenhs Eyrwphs. Gi ayto qa ginei mia Syneleysh, opws apokaleitai, h opoia qa ejetasei ayta ta qemata. Ayth h Syneleysh qa exei Proedro, o opoios qa epilegei, qa topoqethqei apo ta 15 melh ths Synodoy Koryfhs. To swma ths Syneleyshs qa apoteleitai apo ekproswpoys twn kybernhsewn twn 15 xwrwn-melwn ths E.E., twn eqnikwn Koinoboyliwn ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs kai toy Eyrwkoinoboylioy. Oi apofaseis poy qa perilhfqoyn sth dhlwsh toy Laaken, alla kai sta symperasmata ths Syneleyshs, aforoyn apolytws to mellon ths Eyrwphs, dioti qa exoyme anaqewrhsh twn mexri shmera isxyoyswn synqhkwn. Kai ayto mas afora oloys. Ayth einai h spoydaiothta ths sygkekrimenhs Synodoy Koryfhs.

Oson afora to qema toy Eyrwstratoy, gia to opoio exoyme idiaitero endiaferon, sas enhmerwsa xqes. Paramenoyme sth qesh mas.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

ANTYPAS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, oson afora to qema toy Eyrwstratoy, isxyei h dhlwsh toy Belgoy Prwqypoyrgoy oti akoma ki an den yparjei symfwnia, epi toy keimenoy ths aggloamerikanikhs prwtoboylias h kapoio allo keimeno, qa yparjei diakhryjh ths E.E. gia thn amyntikh ths ikanothta;

XYTHRHS: Opws gnwrizete, apo tis antapokriseis twn synadelfwn sas, xqes to brady, yphrje synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy Kwsta Shmith me ton Belgo omologo toy, sthn opoia symmeteixan kai alla stelexh ths E.E. Kata th diarkeia ths syzhthqhke to qema ayto. Shmera, arxizei h Synodos Koryfhs kai -opws sas eipa kai xqes- o Prwqypoyrgos prokeitai na anaptyjei tis ellhnikes qeseis gia to sxedio keimenoy, to opoio paroysiazetai. O Prwqypoyrgos qa epimeinei stis allages, oi opoies prepei na yparjoyn. Apo kei kai pera, otan ginetai enas dialogos oloi pisteyoyme oti mporei na epiteyxqei mia symfwnia. Ean den katastei ayto dynato, yparxei h dynatothta anabolhs.

ANTYPAS: Peran ths anabolhs, yphrxe kai h dhlwsh toy Belgoy Prwqypoyrgoy...

XYTHRHS: O,ti kai na yphrxe -qelw na sas tonisw- oti twra arxizei h Synodos Koryfhs. To qema qa teqei ekei.

ANTYPAS: H diakhryjh qa yparjei parallhla me thn anabolh;

XYTHRHS: Einai peritto na syzhtame to ti yphrje mexri twra, dioti to qema qa teqei ekei kai qa lhfqoyn apofaseis. Qelw na pw oti qa mas prolaboyn ta gegonota.

MPOTWNHS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh tis dhlwseis toy k. Tsobola poy leei oti o Prwqypoyrgos, o k. Laliwths kai o k. Gryllakhs einai praktores ths CIA, kai oti ayto einai ena pazl poy erxetai na ejyphrethsei symferonta toy PASOK kai ekane swreia kataggeliwn. Alla to pio spoydaio einai ayto.

XYTHRHS: Ayta ti einai;

MPOTWNHS: Ta leei kapoios ayta poy ekeinh thn periodo htan mesa sto PASOK kai gnwrize kapoia pragmata.

XYTHRHS: O k. Tsobolas diaxwrise th qesh toy apo to PASOK, zwntos toy Andrea Papandreoy. Dhmioyrghse enan allo kommatiko sxhmatismo kai, apo tote, einai antipalos toy PASOK, oson afora tis dhlwseis kai tis qeseis toy. Oson afora to proswpo toy k. Laliwth, epishmainw oti o k. Laliwths den xreiazetai kanena pistopoihtiko. O k. Laliwths einai swma apo to swma toy PASOK, exei taytistei apolytws me thn poreia toy Kinhmatos kai me ton Andrea Papandreoy. Ayta einai gnwsta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epeidh eseis ekeinh thn epoxh hsastan konta ston Andrea Papandreoy, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, ean yparxei ayth h epistolh gia thn opoia mila o k. Tsobolas kai sthn opoia o k. Laliwths zhtoyse na paraithqei o Andreas Papandreoy;

XYTHRHS: Tetoia epistolh den yparxei. O k. Laliwths exei hdh kanei sxetikes dhlwseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Epimenw giati eseis hsastan pio konta.

XYTHRHS: Sas apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Gryllakhs leei oti o Andreas Papandreoy ton xrhsimopoihse gia epafes me ta Skopia. Htan atypos symboylos toy o Gryllakhs;

XYTHRHS: Opws jerete o k. Gryllakhs leei polla kai apokalyptika sto biblio toy, ta opoia gia esas exoyn megalo dhmosiografiko endiaferon. Ayto -epeidh ki eseis me th seira sas ekproswpeite thn enhmerwsh toy ellhnikoy laoy- shmainei oti aforoyn oloys toys Ellhnes. Epomenws, den mporei para na aforoyn kai tis politikes dynameis. To lew ayto genikws, dioti poly koybenta ginetai oti syzhtame gia to parelqon, ton k. Gryllakh kai tis qeseis aytes. Syzhtame giati yparxei qema. Oson afora ayto to opoio lete -apokalyptei polla alla o k. Gryllakhs- apanthse o ypoyrgos Typoy. Pera apo tis apanthseis toy k. Prwtopapa epishmainw oti isws -den jerw- na synebh kai kati tetoio. Sas ypenqymizw oti to PASOK anhlqe sthn ejoysia to 1993 kai den yphrxan diayloi me ta Skopia. Epomenws, den apokleietai na yphrje kapoios apo th meria toy PASOK, isws kai mesw toy k. Gryllakh, prokeimenoy na fqasei sta Skopia kai na syzhthsei orismena qemata. Gnwrizete tis politikes energeies toy PASOK kai toy Andrea Papandreoy. Poies htan aytes: Htan na epibalei sta Skopia na allajoyn ta symbola poy xrhsimopoioysan kai na probei sthn endiamesh symfwnia, h opoia isxyei mexri shmera.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yphrxe ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn, presbeis, yphrxe diplwmatikh apostolh ekei. Ena ``kypatzh'' xrhsimopoioyse gia na kanei epafes o Andreas Papandreoy;

XYTHRHS: Sas eipa oti apanthse o ypoyrgos Typoy kai oti den yphrje kati tetoio. Alla, kai ean ypoqesoyme oti yphrje kati tetoio, sas eipa poia htan h politikh toy PASOK apenanti sta Skopia thn epoxh ekeinh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eixe, dhladh, epafh o Andreas Papandreoy me ton k. Gryllakh;

XYTHRHS: Ti sxesh exei ayto me ayta poy anaferei o k. Gryllakhs sto biblio toy!! Leei, oti synergasthke me th CIA kai me tis eylogies toy k. Mhtsotakh, gia na anatrapei h kybernhsh PASOK kai o Andreas Papandreoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai sth synexeia leei o k. Gryllakhs oti synergasthke me ton Andrea Papandreoy.

XYTHRHS: O k. Gryllakhs anaferetai kai se alla qemata poy aptontai ths Dhmokratias kai ths Elladas. Kai apo ayta apodeiknyetai oti yphrxe ena parakratos kai oti h N.D. droyse ws parakratos. Ayta leei...

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai to synexise to PASOK, meta.

XYTHRHS: To PASOK, apo to 1993 ews shmera, gnwrizete ti exei petyxei. Den xreiazetai na to pw egw. To gnwrizei olos o ellhnikos laos.

KOTTARIDHS: Na jekaqarisw kati, giati profanws den to exw katalabei kala. O k. Prwtopapas eixe dhlwsei oti den yphrxe qema synergasias h xrhsimopoihshs toy k. Gryllakh apo ton Andrea Papandreoy. Eseis, shmera...

XYTHRHS: Egw sas lew oti, ki an ypoqesoyme kati tetoio, ayto den exei kamia sxesh me tis kataggelies toy k. Gryllakh.

ANTWNOPOYLOS: Shmera, o k. Kontogiannopoylos me synenteyjh toy yposthrizei oti to 1992, eixe proteinei ston Prwqypoyrgo, ypoyrgo tote, na eggyhqei enos eksygxronistikoy kommatos poy qa synenwse tis eksygxronistikes dynameis toy PASOK kai ths N.D. Exete na kanete kapoio sxolio;

XYTHRHS: Oxi.

MOYRTZHS: H ka Papandreoy sth xqesinh synanthsh k. Mparnie, apodexqhke thn kakodiaxeirish sthn ypoqesh toy Kthmatologioy kai proanhggeile mia nea arxh, afoy bebaiws, epistrecoyme sthn E.E. 20 dis draxmes. Ayto gia esas htan anamenomeno h sas ejeplhje, sas aifnidiase;

XYTHRHS: Den einai etsi. To Kthmatologio ejelissetai, qa synexistei. Mporei na yparjei nea bash. Alla, yparxei taytoxrona mia epitroph empeirognwmonwn, h opoia qa ejetasei to qema. Den exei lhjei to qema.

MOYRTZHS: To qema toy Kthmatologioy, brisketai se ejelijh. Ta programmata poy einai se ejelijh qa synexistoyn me eqnikh xrhmatodothsh kai mono; Giati einai ena deytero paketo, poy prokeitai na katateqei, to opoio phre pali pisw h ka Papandreoy.

XYTHRHS: To qema tiqetai se nea bash. Sas eipa oti yparxei epitroph empeirognwmonwn poy ejetazei ta mexri twra programmata. To qema einai se ejelijh. Moy dinete thn aformh na sas epishmanw oti h N.D. me to antipoliteytiko menos enantion ths kybernhshs toy PASOK, polles fores blaptei ta symferonta ths xwras.

TAKHS: Se synexeia kapoiwn xqesinwn apokalycewn poy eginan se prwinh ekpomph toy MEGA CHANNEL, o k. Kassimaths shmera paroysiase ena binteo, opoy eixe mia synenteyjh me ton prwhn arxhgo ths antitromokratikhs yphresias, to 1993, o opoios epibebaiwse ayto poy xqes eixe pei o k. Kassimaths, oti gnwrize h tromokratikh yphresia gia to xtyphma enantion toy Payloy Mpakogiannh. Exete kapoio sxolio gi ayto; Kai apo th stigmh poy gnwrizan oi tote iqynontes kai gnwrizontes thn EYP kai stis antitromokratikes yphrjan kai pragmata otan to PASOK egine kybernhsh kai asxolhqhkate me ayto to qema; Pws htan dynaton h IA na gnwrize mhnes prin oti qa ktyphqei kapoio sygkekrimeno proswpo;

XYTHRHS: Ekana sxetikh dhlwsh xqes. Meiname anaydoi. Xqes, to maqame. Den yphrxe ola ayta ta xronia kati se gnwsh ths kybernhshs kai toy PASOK, gi ayto to qema. Tonisa, oti ean alhqeyei, ean einai ontws etsi, einai ena qema kyriolektika ekrhktiko. O k. Mhtsotakhs xqes ekane mia sxetikh dhlwsh. Poia einai h pragmatikh alhqeia; O ellhnikos laos prepei na to maqei ayto.

TAKHS: Protiqeste na zhthsete enhmerwsh apo thn EYP h en pash periptwsei na sas dwsoyn kapoies ejhghseis, gia to ti egine ekeinh thn periodo; Giati kai oi epomenoi qa hjeran ti egine apo toys prohgoymenoys;

XYTHRHS: H EYP einai mia kratikh yphresia. To PASOK, ws kybernhsh, den gnwrize to qema ayto, etsi opws apokalyfqhke apo thn ekpomph kai toys dhmosiografoys poy anaferate.

MIXAHL: Apo thn perasmenh Trith, poy o k. Gryllakhs bghke sthn thleorash, planatai ena erwthma: Giati ta eipe; Profanws o idios jerei. Eseis exete na dwsete mia ejhghsh ws kybernhsh; Giati o k. Gryllakhs kanei aytes tis kataggelies, mesw toy biblioy toy, dwdeka xronia meta;

XYTHRHS: Mas endiaferei ti leei o k. Gryllakhs, poios htan kai poios einai o k. Gryllakhs; Epanalambanw htan o stenoteros synergaths toy k. Mhtsotakh kai oso htan sthn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, to 1988 kai meta sthn kybernhsh. To ti leei kai to ti isxyrizetai exei shmasia. Perimenoyme topoqethsh apo th N.D. shmera, th shmerinh N.D., apo ton arxhgo ths, apo ton k. Karamanlh. Xqes, o k. Karamanlhs ekane mia dhlwsh kai apefyge na parei qesh. Kai anarwtietai kaneis ti arxhgos einai, afoy den pairnei qesh gia to o,ti diepraje to idio to komma toy. Mhpws ntrepetai na paradexqei ola ayta poy diepraje to komma toy; H mhpws den exei thn tolmh na ta katadikasei; Kai mporei etsi na steketai enas arxhgos, poy qelei na ginei kai prwqypoyrgos ths xwras!!

MIXAHL: Den einai ojymwro na zhtate apo ton k. Karamanlh na sas pei ean dexetai, ean apodokimazei h oxi, ta osa leei o k. Gryllakhs kai gia opoio skopo ta leei, otan o k. Karamanlhs, shmera einai arxhgos ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs kai den htan to `88, `89, oyte metepeita prwqypoyrgos stis ekloges toy 1990;

XYTHRHS: To komma einai to idio, ta stelexh einai ta idia. O k. Mhtsotakhs einai epitimos proedros, einai boyleyths aytoy toy kommatos, einai drwn politikos. O k. Karamanlhs exei ypoxrewsh, ws arxhgos aytoy toy kommatos, na parei qesh. Diaforetika taytizetai me ola ayta ta opoia apokalyptontai.

MIXAHL: To an o k. Mhtsotakhs exei h oxi eyqynes, ean gnwrize h oxi ta osa kataggellei o k. Gryllakhs, ayto mporei na to ektimhsete kai exete topoqethqei ws kybernhsh. To erwthma einai, giati, ean ypoqesoyme oti ontws etsi einai -kai xwris na qelw na ginw synhgoros toy k. Karamanlh- qa prepei na exei thn eyqynh o k. Karamanlhs gia to ti ekane o k. Mhtsotakhs, tote; Qa sas qymisw, oti ean ypoqesoyme oti kapoioi apo to PASOK to 1989 eixan sxesh me ton Koskwta, giati qa eprepe na to xrewqei synolika to PASOK, opws kai apodeixqhke apo thn poreia;

XYTHRHS: Kyrie Mixahl, profanws, den katalabate. Enas politikos arxhgos prepei na exei thn tolmh na pairnei qesh. O ellhnikos laos gia na sthrijei ena komma, enan arxhgo, prepei na gnwrizei ti leei aytos o arxhgos, gia qemata poy anafyontai. Poly perissotero otan prokeitai gia qemata toy kommatos toy.

TAKHS: Me ola ayta poy blepoyme, mhpws telikws nomizete oti htan laqos h apofash toy PASOK na anasteilei to 1994 to jekaqarisma ths ypoqeshs twn ypoklopwn sto Eidiko Dikasthrio;

XYTHRHS: Asfalws, oxi. Htan mia sofh apofash toy Andrea Papandreoy, prokeimenoy na paei mprosta h xwra mas kai na jefygei apo to faylo kyklo poy dhmioyrghse h N.D., o k. Mhtsotakhs kai h stoixeiwmenh Rhgillhs, opws apodeiknyetai.

TAKHS: H xwra paei pisw, omws.

XYTHRHS: Den paei pisw. H xwra paei mprosta kai qa synexisei na phgainei mprosta. Ayta poy katadikazoyme -kai prepei na ta katadikazoyme- einai ayta poy apokalyptontai.

TAKHS: Qa eixan apokalyfqei tote kai qa eixe teleiwsei h istoria.

XYTHRHS: Ma, qa mas afhsoyn adiaforoys ola ayta poy apokalyptontai;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws den ton afhse o k. Gryllakhs ton Andrea Papandreoy tote na proxwrhsei, epeidh htan mystikos symboylos toy;

XYTHRHS: Thn eklambanw san ``anekdoto'' thn erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei parei qesh se ayto to qema; Kai ean oxi, giati den exei parei qesh;

XYTHRHS: Edw, einai o kybernhtikos ekproswpos.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws gnwrizete poios xrhmatodotei to biblio toy k. Gryllakh;

XYTHRHS: Mas endiaferei to periexomeno toy biblioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo ton oiko LIBANH ekdidetai. Mhpws jerete poios to xrhmatodotei;.

XYTHRHS: Egw den gnwrizw. Eseis mhpws gnwrizete;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mhpws exete ypoch sas, ws kybernhsh, poios to xrhmatodotei;

XYTHRHS: Ti ennoeite; Opws ekdidontai ola ta biblia, etsi ki ayto. Mas endiaferei to periexomeno.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ennow ayto poy katalabate.

XYTHRHS: Ayto poy yponoeite einai se apolytws laqos dromo. Kalo einai na mhn to skefteste. Ta gegonota krinontai.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Me sygxwreite, alla apo thn perasmenh Trith, parakoloyqwntas toso esas, oso kai ton k. Prwtopapa briskomai se sygxysh, dioti h kybernhsh kapoia pragmata ta qewrei apokalyceis kai kapoia alla ta diaceydei xwris peraiterw prospaqeia h analysh, se oti bgainei apo to biblio toy. H erwthsh einai, h kybernhsh kapoia xronia meta qewrei ajiopisto proswpo ton k. Gryllakh se osa ki an leei h oxi;

XYTHRHS: Zhtame apo th N.D. na parei qesh se ola ayta poy apokalyptontai sto biblio toy k. Gryllakh.

KOTTARIDHS: Dhladh, ean kanei shmera dhlwsh o k. Karamanlhs oti ola ayta ta pragmata den isxyoyn, eseis ws kybernhsh, kalypteste;

XYTHRHS: Na kanei dhlwsh o k. Karamanlhs kai qa thn krinoyme,

MPOTWNHS: Exete kapoio sxolio gia thn apeleyqerwsh twn bretanwn, poy apo kataskopoi, eginan meta eleyqeroi xompistes, exete enhmerwqei, yparxei kapoio problhma;

XYTHRHS: Einai qema ths Dikaiosynhs.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.


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