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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-06-02

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 2 Ioynioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 270663930

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 2 Ioynioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Opws gnwrizete, pragmatopoihqhke shmera sygklhsh toy atypoy Ypoyrgikoy Symboylioy me shmantikotata qemata poy shmatodotoyn tis megales allages sto kratos, thn anaptyjh kai thn koinwnia.

Syzhthqhke to qema ths ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias, h politikh twn metoxopoihsewn, apokratikopoihsewn, anadiarqrwsewn kai h diaxeirish ths dhmosias perioysias synolika. Eidikotera gia to qema ayto qa doqei se ligh wra synenteyjh Typoy olwn twn synarmodiwn ypoyrgwn, opoy qa yparxei kai analytikh enhmerwsh.

Epishs, shmera, sto atypo Ypoyrgiko Symboylio oristhke to plaisio twn apokratikopoihsewn kai ths ajiopoihshs ths dhmosias perioysias kai ta armodia ypoyrgeia proxwroyn pros ayth thn kateyqynsh. H arxh poy diepei thn ajiopoihsh ayth einai h anaptyjiakh diaxeirish kai ajiopoihsh ths dhmosias perioysias yper twn politwn me oles tis parametroys, kaqoti h diadikasia ayth einai synqeth.

Syzhthqhkan akomh, prwtoboylies toy ypoyrgeioy Ygeias gia qesmikes allages sto Eqniko Systhma Ygeias kai ena neo protypo efhmeriwn. Qa hqela se ayto to shmeio na tonisw thn idiaiterh shmasia poy apodidei h kybernhsh sto dhmosio xarakthra ths ygeias.

Thn periodo 2004 - 2009 biwsame mia megalh apajiwsh toy dhmosioy xarakthra toy systhmatos ygeias me apotelesma thn yperxrewsh toy, th synepagomenh ypobaqmish kai thn anarxh diogkwsh toy idiwtikoy tomea. Antimetwpizoyme, loipon, shmera mia diplh proklhsh poy einai afenos h strofh twn politwn pros to dhmosio systhma ygeias me thn oysiastikh anabaqmish twn yphresiwn toy kai afeteroy, h ejaleich ths spatalhs kai ths adiafaneias poy kostizei kai oikonomika alla kai hqika sto dhmosio xarakthra toy.

Ayto emeis, h shmerinh kybernhsh, to epitygxanoyme me sygkekrimena bhmata, me th dhmioyrgia enos neoy plaisioy promhqeiwn ygeias kai farmakwn, me thn hlektronikh syntagografhsh toys kai thn kaqierwsh listas, thn oysiastikh anabaqmish toy ESY me olohmerh leitoyrgia, th sygxronh ekpaideysh kai katartish toy proswpikoy toy kai me ena sygxrono kai antikeimeniko plaisio kanonwn ston idiwtiko tomea ygeias.

Epipleon, qespizetai ena neo protypo efhmeriwn poy qa antapokrinetai toso stis anagkes twn politwn oso kai stis apaithseis twn nosokomeiwn.

Qa yparjei kai analytikh enhmerwsh ths armodias ypoyrgoy, k. Jenogiannakopoyloy, h opoia qa anaferqei kai sta sygkekrimena nomoqetika bhmata. Na ypenqymisw, aplws, oti hdh exei chfistei to neo plaisio promhqeiwn sthn ygeia kai sta nosokomeia kai synolikotera. Epishs, me to nomosxedio poy qa katateqei mesa ston Ioynio qa lyqoyn ola ta zhthmata poy exoyn na kanoyn me thn anabaqmish toy ESY se ola ta epipeda.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MPEQANH: Qelw na sas rwthsw gia tis ejelijeis poy exoyme sto qema ths SIEMENS kai me olh ayth thn anastatwsh poy exei ginei, gia ta eggrafa, olh ayth thn adejiothta poy yparxei. Mhpws telika pisw apo ayto, polloi anarwtioyntai, krybetai mia epidejia apajiwsh twn ejetastikwn epitropwn, kaqws kapoioi antilambanontai oti to ``tsoynami'' twn apokalycewn einai pio megalo kai blepoyme telika oti den mporei na to diaxeiristei to politiko mas systhma;

PETALWTHS: To politiko mas systhma exei kai tis oysiastikes kai tis qesmikes kai tis nomoqetikes dynatothtes na diaxeiristei ta panta. Ayto einai dedomeno kai to apodeiknyei polles fores. Apo kei kai pera, einai qema politikhs boylhshs kai oi leptomereies oi opoies yparxoyn gyrw apo th leitoyrgia ths kaqe ejetastikhs epitrophs einai deytereyon zhthma poy tis epilyei kaqe ejetastikh monh ths. Ayto poy qelw na pw sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh einai oti den prepei na protrexoyme na bgaloyme symperasmata, ta opoia paroysiasthkan kata koron, eidikotera xqes, giati mporei na mhn einai orqa. Oi ejetastikes epitropes exoyn dikoys toys kanones leitoyrgias. Kaqe hmera bgainoyn oysiastika zhthmata, ara kai h eikona poy doqhke xqes pisteyw oti adikei aytes tis ejetastikes epitropes. Den prepei na parempodizetai to ergo twn ejetastikwn epitropwn, me eikasies, parermhneies kai diarroes, oi opoies oxi aplws den symballoyn sth diafaneia kai sthn ejeyresh ths alhqeias, alla antiqeta th syskotizoyn. Gia ayto qa prepei oloi mas na eimaste prosektikoi kai feidwloi stis ektimhseis mas. Na antimetwpizoyme me th deoysa sobarothta th leitoyrgia twn ejetastikwn epitropwn, oi opoies paragoyn sygkekrimeno kaqhmerino ergo mesa apo dyskoles synqhkes. Kai ayto qa prepei na to sebomaste.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai alhqeia oti kykloforei shmera sth Boylh ena mail to opoio apeyqynetai ston k. Samara, otan ekeinos htan akomh Eyrwboyleyths apo ton koyniado toy kai exei na kanei me ton k. Xristoforako kai th SIEMENS; Gnwrizoyme kati parapanw gia ayto;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw oti arxh mas einai h aytoteleia twn ejetastikwn epitropwn kai fysika kai se ayth thn periptwsh qa anaferw oti qa prepei na antimetwpizoyme oles aytes tis fhmes kai tis diarroes me th deoysa sobarothta kai epifylajh. Oi ejetastikes exoyn ton tropo leitoyrgias toys, akomh kai an mas jenizei oloys emas poy briskomaste ektos. Kai ennoeitai oti mporoyn kai einai ypoxrewmenes na diereynhsoyn ta panta.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Allo qema. Hqela na maqw ti akribws symbainei me thn k. Xara Nikopoyloy, poy blepoyme synexws se ekpompes sthn thleorash. Apo oti maqainw htan ekeinh poy ekane aithsh na fygei apo th Qrakh kai th meionothta kai na paei sth Qessalonikh. Twra, jafnika, qelei thn adeia toy ypoyrgeioy Paideias gia na gyrisei, alla, maqainw, apo to ypoyrgeio, oti den exei kataqesei tetoio aithma.

PETALWTHS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, h k. Nikopoyloy exei ypobalei h idia aithsh gia metaqesh, prokeimenoy na fygei apo to Derreio, to sxoleio opoy brisketai. Kai fysika, exontas ta aparaithta moria, h aithsh ths egine dekth. Ws pros kapoies fhmes gia apeiles k.t.l., aytes einai teleiws anypostates kai den yparxei kamia analogh kataggelia sto ypoyrgeio Paideias.

Na sas pw oti eidika sto xwro ths Qrakhs, opoy yparxei kai meionotikh ekpaideysh, qa prepei na eimaste feidwloi kai epeidh akribws yparxoyn polla zhthmata poy anafyontai ekei, yparxei kai gonimo edafos gia ekmetalleysh pollwn katastasewn. Emeis, ws Politeia, antimetwpizoyme me th deoysa sobarothta ola ta zhthmata kai ayto qa prepei na kanoyn kai oloi oi dhmosioi leitoyrgoi ths.

KOYKLOYMPERHS: Milhsate gia ena systhma protypwn efhmeriwn poy qa paroysiasei kai h k. Jenogiannakopoyloy argotera, sth synenteyjh Typoy. Wraio to systhma protypwn efhmeriwn, xrhmata gia efhmeries problepontai mesa apo ayto to programma;

PETALWTHS: Einai alhqeia oti ayth einai mia poly shmantikh parametros. Me ta oikonomika dedomena poy yparxoyn, to ypoyrgeio Ygeias, pragmatika, kataballei poly megales prospaqeies, etsi wste oi giatroi na plhrwnontai tis efhmeries toys, na exoyn to eisodhma poy prepei na exoyn gia na askoyn swsta to dhmosio leitoyrghma toys. To ypoyrgeio Ygeias, se synergasia me to ypoyrgeio Oikonomikwn, ergazetai pros ayth thn kateyqynsh etsi wste na plhrwnontai oso to dynaton pio egkaira, giati gnwrizoyme oti yparxoyn xronies kaqysterhseis.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Skefqhke h kybernhsh na katarghsei th basikh syntajh poy problepetai sto nomosxedio gia to Asfalistiko kai na akoloyqhsei ayto poy exei ypogracei to mnhmonio, oti to pososto anaplhrwshs, symperilambanomenhs kai ths basikhs syntajhs, den qa yperbainei to 48%;

PETALWTHS: O,ti yparxei sto mnhmonio, isxyei. Oson afora stis skeceis gia th beltiwsh h th dieyrynsh toy, ayto qa fanei me thn kataqesh toy asfalistikoy nomosxedioy. Emeis ayto poy kanoyme einai na prospaqoyme me aytes tis synqhkes poy antimetwpizoyme na yparxei koinwnika dikaih syntajh gia ton Ellhna polith.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Nai, alla h basikh syntajh den problepetai sto mnhmonio k. Ypoyrge.

PETALWTHS: Epeidh ginontai polles syzhthseis, sas anaferw oti to mnhmonio einai kaqorismeno kai ta symfwnhqenta isxyoyn. Kapoia shmeia poy qeloyn dieykrinish, ta dieykrinizoyme. Ayth einai h qesh mas, ayth einai h taktikh mas.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Me ton kainoyrgio ypologismo, ean telika symperilambanomenhs kai ths basikhs to 48%, oi syntajeis qa pesoyn stis mises apodoxes apo aytes poy problepontai na paroyn oi ergazomenoi. Dhladh, qa einai syntajh katw apo 500 eyrw.

PETALWTHS: Emeis prospaqoyme wste na mhn yparxei tetoia syntajh alla na yparxei alloy eidoys syntajiodothsh, h opoia qa fanei kai apo to asfalistiko nomosxedio.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Pote blepete na kataqetei, telika, h kybernhsh to asfalistiko nomosxedio; Dioti, apo o,ti fainetai yparxoyn kaqysterhseis.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxoyn kaqysterhseis. Apo ton Noembrio akoma, ws kybernhsh, eixame qesei ena xronodiagramma gia kataqesh toy Asfalistikoy ton Ioynio toy 2010. Synepws, briskomaste konta sthn kataqesh toy asfalistikoy, efoson oloklhrwqoyn oi diadikasies.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Etsi opws diamorfwnetai h katastash kai symfwna me ta osa leei h troika, telos pantwn, diamorfwnontai syntajeis poy xarakthrizontai apo polloys, syntajeis ftwxeias. Ean epikrathsoyn, loipon, aytes telika oi kateyqynseis, qa symfwnhsete kai eseis me ayto to xarakthrismo;

PETALWTHS: O xarakthrismos isws einai to teleytaio kai to pio anwdyno. Emeis ayto poy kanoyme einai oi syntajeis poy qa pairnei o Ellhnas poliths, na einai syntajeis poy qa toy diasfalizoyn mia poiotikh zwh sto plaisio ths syntajiodothshs toy. Ayth einai h prospaqeia mas ypo tis sygkekrimenes synqhkes.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Pantws, kybernhtika stelexh k. Ekproswpe omologoyn oti ean perasoyn telika tetoioy eidoys metra - eimaste poly konta sto na perasoyn- h kai polla apo ayta ta opoia perilambanontai hdh sto nomosxedio, poy etsi kai alliws prowqei h kybernhsh, h kybernhsh den qa to antejei ayto, giati h koinwnia den qa to antejei. Qa to antejei h kybernhsh ayto to Asfalistiko k. Ekproswpe;

PETALWTHS: To exw pei polles fores oti emeis, prwta ap` ola, tolmame na exoyme ena neo asfalistiko systhma kai nomoqetoyme th synexish ths dhmosias asfalishs kai syntajiodothshs. Ean den to anoigame, gia na mhn epibarynqoyme to politiko kostos, se ligo den qa yphrxan syntajeis, den qa yphrxan Tameia Ygeias kai fysika den qa yphrxe kai dhmosia periqalch. Ayta, emeis ta katoxyrwnoyme kai ta diasfalizoyme.

Apo kei kai pera, kanoyme ta panta wste dedomenwn twn synqhkwn na exoyme ta kalytera apotelesmata. Oson afora stis leptomereies, as perimenoyme na katateqei to asfalistiko nomosxedio. Kai ekei pragmatika qa doyme ti problepetai gia th syntajiodothsh twn Ellhnwn politwn.

QEODWROPOYLOS: To xronodiagramma gia thn kataqesh toy Asfalistikoy, isxyei apolyta h mporei na to doyme na paei meta to kalokairi;

PETALWTHS: Exoyme pei oti to xronodiagramma isxyei.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Panw se ayto. Einai syndemeno to Asfalistiko me th deyterh dosh apo to mhxanismo sthrijhs;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei problhma sth deyterh dosh ths daneiodothshs.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Me sygxwreite, giati to lete ayto; H prwth ekqesh ths Komision epishmainei oti yparxoyn kaqysterhseis, yfesh, dyskolia sto na kinhtopoihqoyn orismena pragmata. Gia paradeigma, den yparxei empistosynh stoys mhxanismoys poy qa katapolemhsoyn th forodiafygh; Xtypaei ena kampanaki h ekqesh ths Komision. Giati to lete oti den qa yparjei;

PETALWTHS: Tis dyskolies tis gnwrizoyme giati emeis tis antimetwpizoyme. Kaneis den eipe oti ta pragmata einai eykola. Antiqetws, gnwrizoyme para poly kala poso dyskolo einai. Alla epeidh xeirizomaste oles tis ejelijeis se oloys toys tomeis poy anaferontai sto Programma Staqerothtas, sas diabebaiwnoyme oti ayto to Programma Staqerothtas proxwra, ylopoieitai me ton kalytero tropo. Hdh, opws eipa kai xqes, exoyme ayjhsh sto pososto meiwshs toy elleimmatos. Yparxei kaqhmerinh merimna, etsi wste na mhn apostoyme apo toys stoxoys poy exoyme qesei. Fysika, oi dyskolies, tis opoies omws paleyoyme, einai megales kai paramenoyn.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Qema me ton k. Loberdo gia toys politikoys kai toys epikoinwniakoys xeirismoys k. Ypoyrge;

PETALWTHS: Poio qema, dhladh, na yparxei;

MAKRYGIANNHS: Yparxei kapoia dysforia apo thn kybernhsh gia ton tropo me ton opoio ekfrazetai, dikaiologei tis apofaseis toy, kamia fora amfisbhtei to mnhmonio kai paei legontas. Tetoio qema, dysforias kat` arxhn.

PETALWTHS: Fysika den yparxei kamia dysforia. Osoi parakoloyqoyme thn politikh zwh, antilambanomaste poso dyskolo einai na xeirizetai mia kybernhsh kai enas armodios ypoyrgos to megalo zhthma toy Asfalistikoy. Ayto nomizw oti ta leei ola.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Qa hqela na moy dieykrinisete ean yparxei qema amfisbhthshs ths basikhs syntajhs.

PETALWTHS: Sas apanthsa prohgoymenws. Edw briskomaste gia na enhmerwnoyme kai oxi gia na kanoyme analyseis. Gi` ayto anefera, as mhn protrexoyme. Yparxei xronos kai tropos na diakribwqoyn ola.

Sas eyxaristw.


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