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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-04-13

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Tetarth, 13 Aprilioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 326649838

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 13 Aprilioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

Arxika qa hqela na tonisw oti, gia allh mia fora, oti sth xqesinh dhmoprasia petyxame ek neoy eynoiko daneismo para tis dyskoles dieqneis synqhkes kai malista me kalyteroys oroys ap` thn Portogalia. Osoi kindynologoysan kai kindynologoyn diaceydontai sthn prajh kai qa synexisoyn na diaceydontai.

Shmera paroysiazetai o neos anaptyjiakos nomos kai to neo Eqniko Tameio gia thn Epixeirhmatikothta kai thn Anaptyjh, mesa apo to Tameio Epixeirhmatikothtas. H nea ayth prwtoboylia ths kybernhshs, apotelei meros eyreias kai polypleyrhs prospaqeias ths kybernhshs na epanaferei th xwra se anodikh anaptyjiakh troxia. Sthn prospaqeia ayth, poy einai apo ta megalytera kai shmantikotera stoixhmata gia th xwra, h kybernhsh prowqei ena montelo anaptyjhs, makria apo tis streblwseis toy parelqontos. Ena montelo basismeno sthn ygih, kainotoma kai antagwnistikh epixeirhmatikothta. O neos ependytikos nomos, poy qa paroysiastei shmera apo ton armodio ypoyrgo k. Xrysoxoidh, ekfrazei oles aytes tis ajies. Sto kentro toy, briskontai h emfash sthn ygih epixeirhmatikothta, thn antagwnistikothta, thn ejwstrefeia kai thn prasinh anaptyjh.

H diafaneia sth xrhsh toy dhmosioy xrhmatos, kati poy einai poly shmantiko stoixeio kai se sxesh me to ti ginotan me toys palioys anaptyjiakoys nomoys, me sygkekrimeno proypologismo, ajiokratikh ajiologhsh kai elegxo se kaqe bhma ths kratikhs enisxyshs, wste na mhn exoyme pleon fainomena kataspatalhshs toy dhmosioy xrhmatos. Mia nea antilhch gia to rolo toy kratoys sthn anaptyjiakh diadikasia. To kratos poy sxediazei strathgika thn anaptyjh, qetei jekaqaroys kanones kai frontizei gia thn efarmogh toys, gia thn prostasia toso twn epixeirhmatiwn, oso kai twn katanalwtwn. Ena kratos, pragmatika, sth diaqesh twn anaptyjiakwn prospaqeiwn ths ellhnikhs epixeirhmatikothtas, ena kratos parwn me tropo apokentrwmeno kai epiteliko.

Epishs, to neo Eqniko Tameio gia thn Epixeirhmatikothta kai thn Anaptyjh, to legomeno ETEAN, qa apotelesei allon ena moxlo sthrijhs gia toys ygieis epixeirhmaties. Den antimetwpizoyme thn anaptyjh - kai ayth einai h politikh mas- me oramatikoy typoy ejaggelies, poy monon eyxes ekfrazoyn, opws exoyme dei sto parelqon. Kaqorizoyme sygkekrimenoys stoxoys anaptyjhs, toys opoioys akoloyqoyme kai parexoyme sthn ygih epixeirhmatikothta ta ergaleia gia thn epiteyjh aytwn twn stoxwn. Stoxos mas einai h energopoihsh twn ygiwn dynamewn ths agoras toy topoy mas, pros oikonomikh kai koinwnikh wfeleia olwn twn politwn.

O anaptyjiakos nomos, alla kai to Eqniko Tameio gia thn Epixeirhmatikothta kai thn Anaptyjh apoteloyn shmantika ergaleia gia thn apeleyqerwsh twn dynamewn aytwn: Twn newn epixeirhmatiwn, twn kainotomiwn, twn ejwstrefwn kai antagwnistikwn epixeirhsewn.

Prin apo liges hmeres egkainiasthkan kai hdh leitoyrgoyn ta Kentra mias Hmeras, mias Stashs gia thn Epixeirhmatikothta. Paromoies leitoyrgies, poy apeleyqerwnoyn thn epixeirhmatikothta h thn enarjh ths epixeirhmatikothtas, qa synexistoyn, etsi wste ayto poy oloi diapistwnoyme ola ayta ta xronia, dhladh oi agkylwseis, na stamathsoyn na yparxoyn gia na mporoyn oi epixeirhmaties na ependyoyn me ton kalytero tropo, ton pio elkystiko kai kyriws ton pio diafanh.

Dhmioyrgoyme, loipon, olo to aparaithto anaptyjiako plegma, oles tis aparaithtes domes, wste oi kanones na einai jekaqaroi kai koinoi se oloys toys endiaferomenoys.

Anaptyssoyme tis katallhles synqhkes gia prwth fora sth xwra mas, wste to kratos kai h grafeiokratia na mhn apoteloyn troxopedh gia kaqe epixeirhmatikh drasthriothta, alla na einai epikoyroi kai bohqoi ayths ths megalhs prospaqeias poy ginetai kai apo ygieis epixeirhmaties.

Parakalw gia tis erwthseis sas.

TZANETTATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na mas peite giati kaqysterei h anakoinwsh toy mesoproqesmoy programmatos; Fobatai h kybernhsh antidraseis boyleytwn h kai tis antidraseis ths koinwnias;

PETALWTHS: Qa hqela, na moy peite h na akoysw giati kaqysterei. Eixame pei 15 Aprilioy kai...

TZANETTATOS: H chfish, ennow.

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei kamia kaqysterhsh. H kataqesh qa ginei kai sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, alla kai sth Boylh, se hmeromhnies oi opoies einai prokaqorismenes. Qa prepei na antilhfqoyme oti den prokeitai gia mia seira prwtoboyliwn, tis opoies aplws qa ejaggeiloyme. Prokeitai gia to mesoproqesmo strathgiko sxediasmo ths xwras, mesa se ena genikotero plaisio, sto plaisio enos eqnikoy sxediasmoy, dhladh me prooptikes poly baqyteres kai me synepeies oi opoies exoyn na kanoyn me thn prooptikh ths xwras mas, bazontas sygxronws toys pylwnes, opoy qa anaptyxqei h kybernhtikh drasthriothta, etsi wste h xwra mas na bgei apo thn krish, alla na exei kai prooptikh, na exei kai mellon. Ena mellon poy qa einai teleiws diaforetiko apo to parelqon poy zhsame. Qa htan poly eykolo na feroyme mia lista parembasewn, mia lista aplws apokratikopoihsewn h kapoiwn ajiopoihsewn. Emas den mas afora monon ayto. Emas mas afora kaqe ti poy ginetai - kai malista otan prokeitai gia ena tetoio shmantiko meros ths kybernhtikhs prospaqeias, alla kai ths prospaqeias toy ellhnikoy laoy - na entassetai se ena sygkekrimeno plaisio anaforas, filosofias, praktikhs, etsi wste, pragmatika, mesa ap' ayto to plaisio na apotypwnetai, alla kai na diasfalizetai to mellon ths xwras. Ayto einai to shmantiko. Ennoeitai oti eimaste mesa sta xronodiagrammata poy qesame. Ennoeitai oti ginetai mia poly shmantikh doyleia kai prwth fora, se toso megalo baqos, para tis antijoes synqhkes stis opoies zoyme. Kai einai poly shmantiko ayto na to antilhfqoyn oi pantes, na to antilhfqoyn oi politikes kai koinwnikes dynameis, etsi wste na mporesoyme na pame th xwra mas ena bhma poly pio mprosta ap' o,ti synhqisame na leitoyrgoyme ws kratos kai ws politikes dynameis. Ayth th barythta akribws prospaqoyme na dwsoyme mesa ap' ayto to plaisio toy eqnikoy sxediasmoy. Kai fysika oi hmeromhnies einai aytes tis opoies eixame pei.

SPANOY: H synainesh olwn twn politikwn dynamewn apotelei proypoqesh gia thn efarmogh toy programmatos aytoy; Qelw na pw h chfish toy nomosxedioy qa ginei me aplh pleiochfia;

PETALWTHS: H synainesh twn ypoloipwn politikwn dynamewn, einai kati to zhtoymeno kai einai aparaithto gia na mporoyme na pame pio mprosta. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, me th mywpikh stash poy deixnoyn polles politikes dynameis, me prwth ap' oles th N.D., h opoia qa eprepe na exei teleiws diaforetikh stash kai symperifora sta eqnika pragmata ap' ayth poy krataei shmera, giati qa eprepe na aisqanetai tis terasties eyqynes kai toy parelqontos ths, poy dystyxws kai me tis prajeis toy parontos deixnei oti den tis antilambanetai, qa htan aparaithto, qa htan pragmatika to zhtoymeno, gia na mporesoyme na pame mprosta th xwra. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, emeis den prokeitai na staqoyme se kamia arnhsh kanenos. Exoyme ypoxrewsh - kai ayto kanoyme enamish xrono twra - na pame th xwra mprosta. Ayto, opoios mporei na to antilhfqei, to antilambanetai. Apo ekei kai pera, epiteloys, as analaboyn tis eyqynes toys oloi aytoi poy arnoyntai na qesoyn th xwra ypo ena sxediasmo, eqniko strathgiko sxediasmo, gia na mporesoyme na milame gia mia allh Ellada. Opoios exei diaforetikh apoch, as erqei na thn pei. Opoios arneitai pragmatika na dei th xwra mas me mia prooptikh perissoterwn xronwn apo th shmerinh kai thn epomenh mera, pragmatika qa prepei na analabei kai tis eyqynes toy. Emeis den prokeitai na stamathsoyme, den prokeitai na skalwsoyme poyqena. Emeis eimaste aytoi oi opoioi analambanoyme edw kai enamish xrono to poly megalo baros na feroyme th xwra se mia teleiws diaforetikh katastash apo ayth poy thn paralabame. Kai ayto to ergo, poy mas to exei anaqesei o ellhnikos laos, qa to feroyme se peras eite qeloyn kapoioi na ginei ayto, eite den qeloyn.

Dystyxws, h N.D. fainetai oti den antilambanetai oyte tis eyqynes poy exei gia to parelqon, alla den antilambanetai kai to poy brisketai shmera. Alla kai ta ypoloipa kommata ths antipoliteyshs, me enan poly wraio kai eylhpto kai eypepto rhtoriko logo peri mnhmonioy, peri DNT, peri kaqhmerinhs syzhthshs kindynologias, prospaqoyn na apofygoyn tis eyqynes toys. Kaqenas einai ypeyqynos kai ajios ths empistosynhs h ths mh empistosynhs poy deixnei o ellhnikos laos.

PIKOYLAS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, h kyria Basw Papandreoy epanhlqe shmera me synenteyjh ths sto vima.gr kai parolo poy exete xarakthrisei egklhmatiko na ginontai tetoies zymwseis, epanhlqe me dhlwsh peri protashs, telos pantwn, gia anadiarqrwsh shmera, oxi to 2013. Ejakoloyqeite na qewreite aytes tis dhlwseis egklhmatikes; Kai deyteron, ean exei teqei sto myalo sas qema diagrafhs ths kyrias Papandreoy, efoson exei epanelqei. Eyxaristw.

PETALWTHS: Genikotera, den qa sxoliasw ti eipe h kyria Papandreoy. Eimai Kybernhtikos Ekproswpos. Sxoliazw kai anaferw to kybernhtiko skeptiko panw se sygkekrimena zhthmata me ton pleon epishmo tropo. Apo ekei kai pera, to ti leei kaqenas, eite einai boyleyths, eite den einai, eite einai stelexos, eite einai poliths me oikonomikh skech, einai dikaiwma toy. Emeis exoyme ypoxrewsh, ek twn pragmatwn, na badisoyme se ayton to dromo ths ypeyqynothtas. Emeis exoyme ypoxrewsh, ek twn pragmatwn, na arnoymaste kaqe syzhthsh gia anadiarqrwsh. To exei tonisei epaneilhmmenws o ypoyrgos Oikonomikwn kaqws kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Ola ta alla einai syzhthseis oi opoies den exoyn sxesh me to kybernhtiko ergo.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, mporeite na epanalabete thn apanthsh sas sto prohgoymeno erwthma, ean exei teqei qema diagrafhs ths kyrias Papandreoy; Giati den katalaba.

PETALWTHS: Sas anefera oti den sxoliazw. Den to akoysate profanws. Fysika den tiqetai tetoio zhthma, ejalloy ola ayta einai qemata toy kommatos kai oxi ths kybernhshs.

MOYRELATOS: Na epanelqw me mia erwthsh poy hqela na kanw: Mporeite na mas perigracete, estw kai akroqigws ean exete th dynatothta, ayto poy fhmologeitai kai grafetai sta dhmosieymata, ws ``koinwniko paketo'' to opoio qa symperilambanetai sto mesoproqesmo h se ayto to synoliko sxediasmo gia to 1115;

PETALWTHS: Moy zhtate na anaferw stoixeia toy mesoproqesmoy kai toy eqnikoy sxediasmoy, protoy erqoyn sto Ypoyrgiko Symboylio; Den yparxei periptwsh na ginei kati tetoio. Sebomaste tis diadikasies. Ayto poy exw na pw, einai oti ginetai mia poly shmantikh doyleia se baqos, dinontas prooptikh sth xwra mas kai sto dhmosionomiko kai sto anaptyjiako meros kai sto epipedo ths koinwnikhs synoxhs. Ayta mono mporw na pw shmera.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, milhsate gia anaptyjh, milhsate gia metarryqmiseis. Wstoso, h N.D., dia toy k. Mixelakh, anaferomenh sthn kybernhsh Papandreoy, legei oti sta epwdyna egine ``lagos'' kai stis metarryqmiseis metamorfwnetai se ``xelwna'' kai sygkekrimena kathgorei thn kybernhsh oti den phre ta metra otan eprepe, den daneisthke fqhna otan mporoyse kai stamathse tis apokratikopoihseis poy eixe dromologhsei h N.D., kathrghse ton anaptyjiako nomo ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs kai alla polla. Ti lete ep` aytwn;

PETALWTHS: Pragmati, o k. Mixelakhs, proebh shmera se aytes tis dhlwseis. Qa nomize kaneis, an den gnwrize thn politikh istoria ths xwras mas, oti o k. Mixelakhs einai ekproswpos enos kommatos poy dhmioyrghqhke xqes, xwris istoria. Kai den anaferomai sthn apwterh istoria, alla sthn istoria ths xwras ayths prin apo enamish xrono, otan h N.D. ``thn ekane san lagos'' apo th diakybernhsh ths xwras molis ta brhke dyskola. Otan h logikh me thn opoia kybernoyse h kybernhsh Karamanlh - kai blepoyme stelexh ths shmera na bgainoyn kai na diateinontai kai na paristanoyn toys hrwes kai toys timhtes ths anaptyjhs ths xwras - otan o k. Karamanlhs kybernoyse, kata ton k. Alogoskoyfh ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn toy, me to tote gnwsto kybernhtiko dogma ``asto gia argotera''. Kai epeidh akribws ola ayta ta afhsan epi pentemisi xronia gia argotera, diagontas enan kybernhtiko kai ypoyrgiko bio xlidato, me terastia kataspatalhsh toy dhmosioy xrhmatos, fqasame edw poy fqasame. Kata synepeia, o k. Mixelakhs, ws ekproswpos ths N.D., qa eprepe, afenos men, na skeptetai stoixeiwdws kalytera, afeteroy de na skeptetai epishs stoixeiwdws se poioys apeyqynetai. Ektos, an exei thn ceydaisqhsh oti, olws aifnidiws, oxi monon oi Ellhnes, alla kai oloi oi Eyrwpaioi polites exoyn apolesei th mnhmh toys, speydontas na milhsei gia dhqen apokratikopoihseis poy emeis den synexisame. As mas pei, toylaxiston, mia apokratikopoihsh poy ekane h N.D., otan eprepe oles aytes oi diarqrwtikes allages, tis opoies emeis twra ylopoioyme, na eixan ginei edw kai dekaeties kai eidikotera sta pentemisi-eji xronia ths diakybernhshs ths N.D. Otan eblepan oti erxetai mia krish, h opoia mono me diarqrwtikes allages qa mporoyse na antimetwpisqei.

Pragmati, ta peri ``lagoy'' kai ``xelwnas'' isxyoyn, mono poy tairiazoyn apolyta sth N.D., h opoia ontws egine ``lagos'' otan brhke ta dyskola, alla kai ``xelwna'' sth skech, ginetai shmera poy einai ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh. Dystyxws gia thn idia kai kyriws dystyxws gia th xwra. Ola ta alla einai anajia sxoliasmoy.

MARAQIAS: Ean den ejasfalisete thn zhtoymenh, opws eipate, synainesh apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, skepteste na prosfygete sth synainesh toy laoy, zhtwntas nwph laikh entolh gia na ektelesete to mesoproqesmo sxedio;

PETALWTHS: Ena allo senario poy kykloforei oles aytes tis meres kai to opoio, fysika, aytodiaceydetai. Na epanalabw gia pollosth fora, pws den yparxei qema eklogwn.

Emeis eipame oti zhtame th synainesh olwn twn politikwn kai koinwnikwn dynamewn, giati exoyme na kanoyme me enan baqytero kai makropnohs prooptikhs sxediasmo gia th xwra. Apo ekei kai pera, exoyme thn ypoxrewsh ayton ton sxediasmo na ton feroyme nomoqetika. Kai sygxronws, exoyme thn ypoxrewsh na ton ylopoihsoyme sto ypoloipo ths kybernhtikhs qhteias mas poy problepetai kata to Syntagma kai mas analogei.

Peran aytwn, einai qema toy kaqenos ti stash eyqynhs, ypeyqynothtas h aneyqynothtas qa krathsei. Kai oi politikes dynameis einai aytes poy pragmati ofeiloyn na epideijoyn stoixeiwdh ypeyqynothta, prokeimenoy na antilhfqoyn oi pantes, alla kai gia na to empedwsoyn oi polites, oti h politikh zwh toy topoy den einai etsi opws paroysiazetai to teleytaio xroniko diasthma h ta teleytaia xronia, alla oti epiteloys oi politikoi synaisqanontai kapote kai tis eyqynes toys.

Emeis, ws pros to meros ths basikhs eyqynhs poy mas analogei, ws ypeyqynh kybernhsh ths xwras, prattoyme to kaqhkon mas. Opoios qelei, akoloyqei th dikh mas taktikh me tis dikes toy proseggiseis fysika. Kai opoios den qelei, mporei na milaei peri ``lagoy'' kai ``xelwnas'' kai allwn paramyqiwn. Einai, omws, jekaqaro oti kanenas pleon den paramyqiazetai.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate prin oti den sxoliazete tis apoceis opoioydhpote polith me oikonomikh skech. Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an mesa s` ayth thn kathgoria entassete kai ton symboylo toy Prwqypoyrgoy epi twn Oikonomikwn, ton k. Papadhmo, o opoios, milwntas gia anadiarqrwsh, eipe oti den einai aparaithto to ``koyrema'', qa mporoyse omws na epiteyxqei mia megalyterh epimhkynsh, me meiwsh twn epitokiwn, ennow mia epimhkynsh sto xrono apoplhrwmhs synolika toy xreoys ths xwras. Ep` aytoy;

PETALWTHS: Epanalambanw, oti oi sxetikes syzhthseis poy ginontai - oxi aplws epi kaqhmerinhs basews, alla ana wra pleon - gia thn oikonomikh krish ths xwras mas kai gia to poion dromo qa mporoysame na akoloyqhsoyme, einai ena toso syxno fainomeno, poy ennoeitai oti den to sxoliazw.

Prwta ap` ola, o k. Papadhmos den mila gia anadiarqrwsh. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxei h epishmh ekfrasmenh apoch ths kybernhshs gia to sygkekrimeno qema. Apoch politikh poy ylopoieitai sthn prajh. Emeis akoloyqoyme ena sygkekrimeno programma, exontas ekponhsei ton katallhlo sxediasmo. Aporriptoyme thn anadiarqrwsh, exontas ejhghsei kata koron toys logoys ayths ths aporrichs kai malista se ola ta epipeda: Apo ton Prwqypoyrgo kai ton ypoyrgo Oikonomikwn mexri ton omiloynta, oi pantes, ola ta stelexh ths kybernhshs synolika.

Epomenws, oles oi ypoloipes syzhthseis poy ginontai entassontai sto plaisio qewrhtikwn anazhthsewn kai analysewn. H kybernhtikh qesh gia to sygkekrimeno qema einai jekaqarh kai fysika kaqodhgei kai ekfrazei thn kybernhsh synolika.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Mia akomh erwthsh: Akoysa shmera ton Antiproedro ths kybernhshs ton k. Pagkalo milwntas sto ``BHMA FM'' na leei oti to megalytero baros epwmizetai o mesos forologoymenos, mias kai oi megaloeisodhmaties exoyn poikiloys tropoys na jefeygoyn. Sthn idia synenteyjh eipe oti einai 30 xronia boyleyths, an kala ypologizw einai peripoy 20 xronia ap` ayta toy PASOK kai anarwtiemai poios ftaiei poy mporoyn kai briskoyn ayton ton tropo na jefeygoyn akomh kai shmera apo toys elegktikoys mhxanismoys oi megaloeisodhmaties;

PETALWTHS: Me kaleite kai pali na sxoliasw dhlwseis kai synenteyjeis poy den prepei kai den yparxei logos na sxoliazw. Omws, pera ap` ayto, emeis, ws kybernhsh, exoyme milhsei kat` epanalhch gia tis paqogeneies dekaetiwn ths ellhnikhs oikonomias kai koinwnias poy biwse ena streblo systhma anaptyjhs kai forologhshs to opoio, fysika, den htan koinwnika dikaio kai to gnwrizoyme oloi. Epomenws, den xreiazetai na erqei kapoios kai na to pei me shmerinh toy dhlwsh h synenteyjh kai ayto to gnwrizoyn oloi oi polites.

Emeis, ayto poy kanoyme shmera, einai na ylopoihsoyme akribws oles ekeines tis diarqrwtikes allages, symperilambanomenwn kai twn anagkaiwn tropopoihsewn sto forologiko mas systhma. Eimaste emeis, h paroysa kybernhsh, h opoia, apo thn prwth stigmh, kateqese diaforetiko forologiko nomosxedio me diarkeis beltiwseis. Sas qymizw oti thn teleytaia fora kataqesame sth Boylh nomosxedio poy exei na kanei me thn anadiarqrwsh twn foroeispraktikwn mhxanismwn, dhmioyrgwntas ekeines tis proypoqeseis, etsi wste kai sth forologhsh - se enan shmantikotato tomea gia ta esoda - na yparxei to krithrio ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs. Kai ayto akribws kanoyme. Bebaia, einai kati poy safws den epitygxanetai eykola kai ayto to gnwrizoyme. Oyte epitygxanetai me th qespish enos h dyo nomwn. Epitygxanetai, omws, me th boylhsh, h opoia ekfrazetai se polla epipeda toy kratoys. Kai exei katastei pasifanes oti h boylhsh s` ayth thn kybernhsh yparxei. Den exoyme periqwria kai malista se mia tetoia dyskolh epoxh na mh baloyme to qema ths koinwnikhs dikaiosynhs sthn katabolh twn forwn. Oi diastayrwseis poy ginontai akomh kai me aytoys toys foroeispraktikoys-foroelegktikoys mhxanismoys einai poly megales. Ayto, allwste, kanoyme edw kai enamish xrono. Kai to epiteinoyme, to employtizoyme kai to beltiwnoyme kaqe mera, etsi wste ayto poy qa afhsoyme ws kybernhsh na mhn perigrafei ta fainomena, ta opoia gnwrizoyme oloi pws einai.

MARAQIAS: Pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh th syllhch triwn melwn toy kinhmatos ``den plhrwnw, den plhrwnw'' sthn Korinqia; Fainetai oti einai mia idiaitera dynamikh antimetwpish, thn wra malista poy fainetai oti oi kinhtopoihseis toy kinhmatos aytoy fernoyn apotelesmata kaqws h kybernhsh anagkazetai na proxwrhsei telika sth meiwsh twn diodiwn.

PETALWTHS: Na jekinhsw apo to teleytaio poy anaferate kai na pw oti ston koinoboyleytiko tomea ergasias syzhthqhke h meiwsh twn diodiwn kai einai kati poy apofasise h kybernhsh na epixeirhsei para to poly sfixto nomiko plaisio poy mas enetaje h kybernhsh ths N.D. to 2007 me symbaseis poy ypegrace me tis kataskeyastries etaireies poy exoyn analabei ta diodia. Emeis prospaqhsame kai prospaqoyme na ejantlhsoyme kaqe dynatothta poy yparxei apo to yfistameno nomiko plaisio kai apo to Syntagma ths xwras gia na mporesoyme na petyxoyme mia meiwsh twn diodiwn. H opoia meiwsh h h opoia anaqewrhsh twn diodiwn ginei den exei kamia sxesh me to ypotiqemeno kinhma ``den plhrwnw'', to opoio blepoyme na geloiopoieitai, na prospaqei na geloiopoihsei polites oi opoioi einai synepeis kai nomimoi. To antiqeto, den dhmioyrgei eynoikes synqhkes gia na petyxoyme meiwsh twn diodiwn. Otan exoyme na kanoyme me pragmatika aparadektes, paranomes kai kanibalikoy typoy ekdhlwseis toy na eiserxontai kapoioi mesa se astynomiko tmhma gia na katastrecoyn tis klhseis toys h na empodisoyn thn afairesh stoixeiwn, tote pragmatika edw den milame gia aytodikia, edw milame gia nomo ths zoygklas poy prospaqoyn kapoioi ypotiqemenoi proodeytikoi oi opoioi diakinoyn kai anakinoyn to ``den plhrwnw'' na fernoyn antiqeta apotelesmata. Einai energeies katadikasmenes apo thn koinwnia kai alimono an ftaname se tetoioy eidoys energeies gia na anatrecoyme mia taktikh h enan nomo poy nomizoyme oti den mas boleyei.

Gia to sygkekrimeno zhthma poy dhmioyrghqhke sthn Korinqo hdh exei akoloyqhqei h nomimh diadikasia ths dikaiosynhs kai ths astynomias. Osoi nomizoyn oti mporoyn na metatrecoyn thn aytodikia se nomo toy kratoys, planwntai kai kaqe allo para to symferon ths koinwnias katoxyrwnoyn me aytes tis energeies toys.

TZANETTATOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw me aformh to aithma ths K.O. toy PA.SO.K gia proanakritikh gia thn ypoqesh twn ypobryxiwn. O k. Tsoxatzopoylos se mia dhlwsh toy ekane logo gia atophma ths K.O. toy PA.SO.K kai malista milhse gia sympnoia me thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh th N.D. . Exei kapoio sxolio h kybernhsh gi ayto;

PETALWTHS: Ennoeitai oti den qa sxoliasw tis dhlwseis toy k. Tsoxatzopoyloy. Ayto poy exw na pw einai oti exoyme mia rhth entolh apo ton ellhniko lao thn opoia ylopoiei ayth h kybernhsh. Otan legame kai leme ``ola sto fws'' , ayto qa ginetai kai qa ginei. Den qa stamathsoyme poyqena. Mesa se 18 mhnes exoyme anakinhsei oles tis ypoqeseis oi opoies limnazan edw kai polles dekaeties kai par' olo poy oi synepeies ayths ths anakinhshs tis perissoteres fores den einai orates, h einai antikeimeno sxoliasmoy giati yparxei ena nomiko plaisio apagoreytiko tis perissoteres fores, toy na proxwrhsoyme se timwria twn enoxwn logw paragrafwn, emeis qa proxwrhsoyme. Fysika kai sthn sygkekrimenh ypoqesh den mas afora se poia proswpa anaferetai ayth h ypoqesh. Ayto poy mas afora einai na diereynhqei plhrws kai na apodoqoyn oi eyqynes se osoys emplekontai, politika h mh proswpa. Emeis apodeiknyoyme sthn prajh oti den stamatame poyqena, den kalyptoyme kanenan kai ayto to maqhma kai ayto to didagma einai ayto poy qeloyme na bgei apo olh ayth thn ypoqesh pera apo ayth kaq' ayth thn opoiadhpote kai jexwristh periptwsh. Qa prepei oloi na antilhfqoyn, oloi oi polites oti h atimwrhsia poy yphrxe edw kai dekaeties, payei na yparxei pleon. Qa dhmioyrghsoyme kai kata to epitrepto kai mesa apo thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos ena tetoio nomoqetiko plaisio poy na mhn paragrafontai eyqynes politikwn kata ton tropo poy paragrafontan mexri twra. Epishs o nomos peri eyqynhs ypoyrgwn poy fernoyme, beltiwnei kata to metro toy dynatoy th nomoqesia h opoia safws kai den bohqoyse mexri twra. Alla den prokeitai na kanoyme pisw gia kamia, ma kamia periptwsh. Ayto einai jekaqaro.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, alhqeyei oti efoson den einai arketes oi apoxwrhseis apo to Dhmosio an efarmostei ayto to 1 pros 5, nomizw oti efarmozetai hdh, qa mporei na teqei se paysh ypoxrewtikh gia kapoioys mhnes h kapoies hmeres sthn ebdomada o ergazomenos;

PETALWTHS: Ti shmainei paysh;

ZAFEIRIADOY: Pws na to pw; Adeia aney apodoxwn.

PETALWTHS: Den gnwrizw apo poy sas prokyptei kati tetoio, den yparxei kamia tetoia plhroforhsh sthn Kybernhsh gia  ypoxrewtikh paysh . Emeis qeloyme na kanoyme ena Dhmosio to opoio na einai paragwgiko, mazemeno se sxesh me to panhgyri poy ginotan epi polla xronia, omws ta ergasiaka dikaiwmata twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn, opws diasfalizontai apo toys nomoys, qa thrhqoyn sto akeraio.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo apogeyma. --1427249692-955906538-1302723529=:1475--


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