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Greek Government Press Briefing, 11-07-07

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Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Pempth, 7 Ioylioy 2011

Ariqmos Deltioy: 341745602

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 7 Ioylioy 2011

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO EPIKRATEIAS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

HLIA MOSIALO

Kalhmera.

Qa hqela, kat` arxas, na jekinhsw thn enhmerwsh me anafores sthn apanthtikh epistolh toy Proedroy ths Eyrwpaikhs Epitrophs, k. Mparozo, pros ton Prwqypoyrgo.

O k. Mparozo antapokrinetai me idiaitera qetiko tropo stis epishmanseis toy Prwqypoyrgoy, ypogrammizontas oti skopeyei na dhmioyrghsei mia eidikh omada sthn Eyrwpaikh Epitroph gia to syntonismo ths texnikhs bohqeias me thn Ellada. Tonizei oti, h idia omada qa ergastei mazi me tis ellhnikes arxes gia thn epitaxynsh ths aporrofhshs twn kondyliwn twn diarqrwtikwn tameiwn.

O k. Mparozo dinei emfash sth boylhsh toy na kanei o,ti mporei h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph gia thn epanastoxeysh twn kondyliwn pros thn kateyqynsh ths enisxyshs ths anaptyjhs kai ths apasxolhshs sthn Ellada.

Proteinei na yparxei amesh synanthsh armodiwn stelexwn kai apo tis dyo pleyres. Kai ayto qa kanoyme. Qa yparxei ypeyqynos poy qa syntonizei tis prospaqeies, ek meroys toy Grafeioy toy Prwqypoyrgoy me to Grafeio toy k. Mparozo, etsi wste na yparxei epispeysh twn diadikasiwn gia thn aporrofhsh twn kondyliwn twn diarqrwtikwn tameiwn kai genikotera twn koinotikwn kondyliwn.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, sta prosfata epeisodia enas dhmosiografos exase thn akoh toy. O idios perigrafei, se mia epistolh poy esteile, oti enw oi epixeirhsiakes prodiagrafes einai na petioyntai se apostash 50 metrwn apo toys anqrwpoys oi krotides lamchs-krotoy, o astynomikos thn petaje mprosta toy, sta 50 ekatosta, me apotelesma o anqrwpos na xasei thn akoh toy. Mesa sthn ereyna poy kanei o ypoyrgos, ejetazetai sygkekrimena ayto to epeisodio, prokeimenoy na apodoqoyn eyqynes ston sygkekrimeno astynomiko kai ti eyqynes qa apodoqoyn;

MOSIALOS: Ola ayta ta qemata, alla kai ta qemata toy pws epixeirei h astynomia, poy kata th gnwmh mas prepei pantote na epixeirei mesa sto plaisio twn nomwn ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias kai toy Syntagmatos ths xwras, qa syzhthqoyn sth diakommatikh epitroph poy proteinei o Prwqypoyrgos, sto plaisio twn kanonikwn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, opoy ta qemata ths astynomias kai to pws epixeirei h astynomia, qa einai qemata eyryterhs syzhthshs. Alla, qa enhmerwsw kai ton ypoyrgo Prostasias toy Polith gia to sygkekrimeno peristatiko kai qa epanelqw.

SIDERHS: Mia epejhghsh: Oxi epeidh htan synadelfos o paqwn, alla gia thn egklhmatikh energeia na rijei thn krotida kateyqeian panw sto atomo.

MOSIALOS: Sas dieykrinisa oti qa yparjei enhmerwsh toy ypoyrgoy Prostasias toy Polith. Profanws den einai ena gegonos to opoio mporei na epidokimazei kaneis kai eimaste safeis edw. Qa yparjei enhmerwsh toy ypoyrgoy Prostasias toy Polith kai qa epanelqw. Omws, ola ayta ta qemata, ta qemata ths politikhs bias genikotera, qa syzhthqoyn sto plaisio ths diakommatikhs epitrophs. Alla, eimai sigoyros oti qa yparxei kai amesh antapokrish sto qema to opoio qetete.

MIXAHL: Anhsyxei h kybernhsh gia ta fainomena prophlakismwn, bias kai genikws epiqetikwn diamartyriwn - na ta xarakthrisw etsi- eis baros politikwn proswpwn ana thn Ellada kai kyriws kybernhtikwn stelexwn;

MOSIALOS: Exw dhlwsei kat` epanalhch oti den yparxei kalh kai kakh bia. Den yparxei proodeytikh kai synthrhtikh bia. H bia einai opisqodromikh. Kai kaqe energeia, h opoia afairei to dikaiwma twn Ellhnwn politwn na ekfrastoyn eleyqera, qa prepei na katadikazetai ap` olo ton politiko kosmo, apo to synolo twn politikwn kommatwn. Epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora, oti ayta ta qemata qa syzhthqoyn sto plaisio ths diakommatikhs epitrophs. Elpizoyme oti ola ta kommata qa symmetexoyn kai qa kataqesoyn tis protaseis toys, etsi wste na yparxei mia synainesh sto pws qa prepei na antimetwpizoyme ta fainomena ths politikhs bias.

MIXAHL: Mporeite na mas peite kati pio sygkekrimeno gia thn anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oti proswpa poy epidiwkoyn th dhmosiothta kai ta opoia enisxyoyn akoma kai apo ta MME me ta opoia sitizontai, tetoioy eidoys fainomena, na eiste pio sygkekrimenos, mporeite;

MOSIALOS: Oxi. H anafora toy Prwqypoyrgoy htan para poly safhs kai sygkekrimenh.

MPEKA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayto poy prokyptei apo th synanthsh Benizeloy-Soimple einai oti oi Germanoi zhtoyn kai alla metra, prokeimenoy na prostateyqei to idiwtiko ependytiko klima sthn Ellada. Telika, posa metra mas perimenoyn akoma;

MOSIALOS: Den prokyptei tipota tetoio apo th synanthsh toy k. Benizeloy me ton k. Soimple, h opoia egine se poly kalo klima kai ayto poy kyriws syzhthqhke htan oi dynatothtes germanikwn ependysewn sthn Ellada. Epishs, yphrje synanthsh toy ypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn, k. Benizeloy, me to Syndesmo Germanikwn Biomhxaniwn, poy egine se para poly kalo klima, kata th diarkeia ths opoias syzhthqhkan oi dynatothtes germanikwn ependysewn sth xwra mas. Se kamia periptwsh, sth synanthsh toy k. Benizeloy me ton k. Soimple, den syzhthqhke h epibolh prosqetwn metrwn. Den tiqetai tetoio qema.

MARAQIAS: Me aformh thn eisagwgikh sas topoqethsh, hqela na rwthsw, an epibebaiwnetai h plhroforia poy dhmosieyetai shmera, mesw toy APE kai ths efhmeridas TA NEA, oti o endiamesos metajy toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai toy k. Mparozo, ths Epitrophs, qa einai o k. Glhnos, ayto einai to prwto, kai an o k. Glhnos telika qa einai armodios se sxesh mono me ta koinotika kondylia h synolika me to qema ths texnikhs bohqeias pros ola ta ypoyrgeia;

MOSIALOS: O k. Mparozo zhthse na exei enan synomilhth sto Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy. O k. Glynos, aplws, qa synomilei me to Grafeio toy k. Mparozo, etsi wste na epispeystoyn ta qemata ths texnikhs bohqeias. H ylopoihsh ths aporrofhshs twn koinotikwn kondyliwn einai qema ths kybernhshs kai twn armodiwn ypoyrgwn.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, qa hqela na moy sxoliasete dyo qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me th N.D. To prwto qema einai to gegonos oti emfanisthke se mia jenh efhmerida ena dhmosieyma poy elege oti h politikh toy k. Samara einai swsth kai ayto egine aformh na leei h N.D. oti olo kai perissoteroi sto ejwteriko apodexontai pleon thn politikh ths, an symfwneite, dhladh, me ayto to symperasma ths N.D. Kai to deytero qema einai h ermhneia poy edwse o k. Lazaridhs, o symboylos toy k. Samara, sta zhthmata ths bias kai poy afhse na ennohqei oti oi aganaktismenoi, aytoi, logw ths politikhs ths kybernhshs, mporoyn na proxwrhsoyn kai pio pera apo ekei poy exoyn fqasei.

MOSIALOS: Epitrecte moy na sas apanthsw arxika sto prwto qema, poy afora sygkekrimeno kyrio arqro ths Wall Street Journal : Exw dhlwsei kat` epanalhch oti den sxoliazoyme, oyte qetika oyte arnhtika, dhmosieymata toy jenoy Typoy, poy aforoyn ton ellhniko politiko kosmo, eite thn ellhnikh kybernhsh, eite ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, poso mallon de to proswpo toy arxhgoy ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs. Exoyme dhlwsei, epishs, kat` epanalhch oti sebomaste to qesmiko rolo toy k. Samara. Apo ekei kai pera, h sygkekrimenh efhmerida exei dhmosieysei kat` epanalhch, oti o monos dromos gia thn epilysh twn ellhnikwn problhmatwn, einai h xreokopia ths Elladas. Elpizoyme oti h N.D. den symmerizetai tis ekklhseis ayths ths efhmeridas. Ayto einai to ena qema.

Oson afora to deytero qema, h dhlwsh poy exw mprosta moy oti ``den exoyme dei tipota akomh, an den sobareytoyn kapoioi'', elpizoyme oti den einai h epishmh qesh ths N.D. Kai den exei epibebaiwqei apo dhlwseis allwn stelexwn ths N.D.

MELIGGWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, apo tis katadikastees frastikes epiqeseis poy yfistantai stelexh toy PASOK kai boyleytes, ws thn antidhmokratikh ektroph, yparxei terastia apostash. 'Hqela na sas rwthsw mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos xqes dramatopoihse ligo thn katastash, olo ayto poy symbainei.

MOSIALOS: 'Exoyme endeijeis klimakwshs ths entashs kai gi' ayto to logo qa systaqei h diakommatikh epitroph, etsi wste ola ayta ta qemata na syzhthqoyn anoixta. Apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs den yparxei sygkekrimenh atzenta h epibolh atzentas. Ola ayta ta qemata einai anoikta kai qa syzhthqoyn mesa stis koinoboyleytikes diadikasies.

SIDERHS: Ep' aytoy: Ti nohma exei h dhmioyrgia mias diakommatikhs epitrophs; Niwqei h kybernhsh oti den exei thn politikh nomimopoihsh gia na patajei h idia th bia kai qelei na diaxysei eyqynes kai pros ta alla kommata;

MOSIALOS: Se kamia periptwsh. Ta qemata ayta qa prepei na syzhthqoyn sta plaisia twn gnwstwn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, se syntomo xroniko diasthma, etsi wste ola ta kommata na paroyn qesh apenanti sta qemata ths politikhs bias, prokeimenoy na exoyme oloi mia jekaqarh qesh apenanti s' ayta ta fainomena. Epanalambanw, den yparxei kalh kai kakh bia. Den yparxei proodeytikh kai synthrhtikh bia. Epomenws ta qemata ths politikhs bias, me anoikto dhmokratiko tropo -den qa prepei na fobizei kanenan o anoiktos koinoboyleytikos dhmokratikos tropos- qa prepei na syzhthqoyn.

SABBOPOYLOY: Kyrie Ypoyrge, molis prin apo ligo eipate oti exete endeijeis klimakwshs ths entashs. Yparxoyn plhrofories poy fqanoyn se sas, poy synhgoroyn s' ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos gia thn ektroph poy eipe xqes sthn parembash toy. Kai en pash periptwsei meta kai th xqesinh toy parembash, den eidame na ``kaqetai'' ligo olh ayth h istoria. Eixame epipleon kai xqes to brady kai shmera epeisodia me prwtagwnistes boyleytes kai stelexh...

MOSIALOS: Gi' ayto akribws xreiazetai, ola ayta ta qemata na syzhthqoyn me nhfalio dhmokratiko kai anoikto tropo mesa sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias.

SABBOPOYLOY: Den moy apanthsate, exete plhrofories, fqanoyn se sas plhrofories poy na synhgoroyn s' ayto poy eipe o Prwqypoyrgos gia ektroph;

MOSIALOS: Den miloyme gia ektroph ayth th stigmh. Miloyme gia sygkekrimena fainomena. O Prwqypoyrgos den eipe oti ayth th stigmh yparxei dhmokratikh ektroph. Eimai kathgorhmatikos s' ayto. Apo ekei kai pera, tonizw kai pali oti h swsth diadikasia einai h nhfalia, anoikth, koinoboyleytikh diadikasia gia na syzhthqoyn ola ayta ta qemata.

KEXAGIA: 'Hqela omws na mas dieykrinisete: Pragmati, o Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti aplws einai konta h antidhmokratikh ektroph...

MOSIALOS: ... Oti mporei fainomena tetoia na odhghsoyn. Oxi oti eimaste konta...

KEXAGIA: Malista. Pws thn antilambaneste thn ektroph ws kybernhsh, ws mia pragmatikothta;

MOSIALOS: Ayth th stigmh exoyme fainomena politikhs bias. Epomenws, ayta ta fainomena politikhs bias qa prepei na syzhthqoyn - kai epimenw s' ayto- mesa sto plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias. 'Exoyme dhmokratia sth xwra mas. 'Oles oi apoceis akoygontai kai oles oi apoceis qa synexisoyn na akoygontai me eirhniko tropo. Epomenws, ola ta kommata qa prepei na topoqethqoyn apenanti sta fainomena ths politikhs bias, mesa sta plaisia twn dhmokratikwn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn. Den katanow giati ta plaisia twn dhmokratikwn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn einai apo kapoioys mh aparaithta.

MPEKA: Xqes, o Prwqypoyrgos milhse gia ola ayta ta epeisodia enantion twn boyleytwn, anaferontas toys kindynoys se baros ths Dhmokratias. Mesa s' ola, erije thn eyqynh se ``akraia kommata''. Epeidh prosfata eixe pei ``patriwth'' ton k. Karatzaferh kai epeidh den fantazomai na mila gia ``akraio komma'' kai na xarakthrizei oyte th N.D., oyte to KKE. Kyrie Ekproswpe, o SYRIZA qewreitai ``akraio komma''; Mhpws o Prwqypoyrgos xarakthrizei baria ayto to komma, legontas oti o SYRIZA einai ``akraio komma'';

MOSIALOS: Den nomizw oti anaferqhke ston SYRIZA o Prwqypoyrgos xqes sthn omilia toy.

MPEKA: Wraia. Onomatiste mas, omws...

MOSIALOS: Epitrecte moy na apanthsw...

MPEKA: ... ti ennoeite otan lete ``akraio komma'', na jeroyme ki emeis ti ennoeite.

MOSIALOS: Epitrecte moy na apanthsw: 'Exw dhlwsei kat' epanalhch oti ola ta kommata toy Ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy einai dhmokratika.

Idiaitera gia ton SYRIZA exw dhlwsei oti einai ena dhmokratiko kinhmatiko komma, poy symballei stis dhmokratikes diadikasies ths xwras mas. Parallhla, exw epishmanei dyo anakoinwseis poy proerxontai apo th neolaia toy SYRIZA, poy h neolaia toy SYRIZA anaferetai se ``polemo'', oti ``eimaste se polemo'', onomatizei ton Prwqypoyrgo ws ``arxistrathgo twn exqrwn'' kai parallhla yparxei kai mia anakoinwsh ths Nomarxiakhs Epitrophs Magnhsias toy SYRIZA me antistoixh fraseologia.

Emeis perimenoyme apo ton SYRIZA, poy tonizw oti einai ena dhmokratiko kinhmatiko komma, na parei qesh apenanti stis anakoinwseis ths neolaias toy kai ths Nomarxiakhs Epitrophs toy. Kai tonizw, na parei qesh o SYRIZA kai oxi stelexh toy SYRIZA. Giati, mexri stigmhs, stelexh toy SYRIZA exoyn parei safeis apostaseis apo tis anakoinwseis aytes.

O Prwqypoyrgos, se kamia periptwsh, den anaferqhke ston SYRIZA. Ayto poy tonise o Prwqypoyrgos einai oti ola ta koinoboyleytika kommata, mesa sto plaisio twn dhmokratikwn diadikasiwn, qa prepei na syzhthsoyme pws antimetwpizoyme ta fainomena ths politikhs bias, genikotera, sth xwra mas. Kai nomizw oti htan poly safhs.

MPEKA: Ti ennoeite eseis otan lete ``akraio komma'';

MOSIALOS: Tonisa kathgorhmatika: Ta kommata ta opoia ekproswpoyntai sto Ellhniko Koinoboylio, gia mas, den einai akraia kommata. Einai dhmokratika kommata. Einai poly safhs h topoqethsh. Epeshmana omws parallhla dyo safeis anakoinwseis gia tis opoies perimenoyme sygkekrimenes apanthseis.

MELIGGWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, den yparxei stelexos toy SYRIZA, arxhs genomenhs apo ton Proedro ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy, o opoios na mhn exei pei oti h bia einai ejw apo th logikh ths Aristeras, k.lp., k.lp. Ti allo akribws qelete apo ton SYRIZA;

MOSIALOS: Anaferqhka stis dyo anakoinwseis poy proerxontai apo ton xwro toy SYRIZA. S' aytes. Apo ekei kai pera, yparxei to plaisio ths koinoboyleytikhs diadikasias, mesa sto opoio qa syzhthsoyme analytika to ti qa prepei na kanei h ellhnikh Politeia me synainesh toy politikoy kosmoy gia thn antimetwpish twn fainomenwn ths bias, genikotera twn fainomenwn ths bias.

MOYRELATOS: Kyrie ypoyrge, yparxoyn dieqneis paragontes, dieqneis analytes, alla kai diaforoi paragontes apo to eswteriko ths xwras, poy na to pw komca dyspistoyn ws pros thn ikanothta ths kybernhshs na ferei eis peras ta xronodiagrammata ta opoia exei mprosta ths, se o,ti afora thn ylopoihsh toy mesoproqesmoy. Lene de oi idies phges oti endexomenws na mhn yparxei kai h politikh boylhsh gia na to prajei h kybernhsh ayto. Kai to erwthma moy exei dyo skelh: Ti apantate se ayto kat' arxhn, se ayth th dyspistia kai deyteron, ean ayto sas odhgei sthn epanalhch ths ekklhshs gia synainesh pros th N.D. kai ta loipa kommata kai toys koinwnikoys etairoys.

MOSIALOS: Profanws qa proxwrhsoyme me apofasistikothta sthn ylopoihsh toy programmatos mas. Kai ayto fainetai apo toys poly grhgoroys ryqmoys me toys opoioys leitoyrgei h kybernhsh. Apo thn allh meria, omws, den menoyme mono sthn ylopoihsh toy mesoproqesmoy programmatos. Anoigoyme eyrytera qemata ta opoia exoyn sxesh me ton eksygxronismo toy ellhnikoy kratoys kai thn anadiarqrwsh ths dhmosias dioikhshs. Syzhtame to nomosxedio gia thn anwtath ekpaideysh. Syntoma, sto plaisio twn koinoboyleytikwn diadikasiwn, qa katateqei kai to nomosxedio gia tis poleodomies kai h metarryqmish toy eqnikoy systhmatos ygeias. Kai mesa sth diarkeia toy kalokairioy, yperbainontas to plaisio ths dhmosionomikhs syzhthshs, qa anaptyxqei to synolo toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Epomenws, den yparxei kamia periptwsh na kanoyme pisw. H metarryqmistikh prospaqeia ths kybernhshs qa synexisqei, pera apo to plaisio ths dhmosionomikhs prosarmoghs, poy einai o kyrios stoxos.

MOYRELATOS: Me sygxwreite, apla, to deytero skelos htan gia th synainesh kai pws thn ennoeite kai ean h piesh erxetai kai pros ta ejw pleon...

MOSIALOS: Na dieykrinisw: Panta h kybernhsh epidiwkei na exei th synainesh twn allwn politikwn kommatwn se eyrytera qemata poy aforoyn th metarryqmish toy kratoys kai thn allagh ths xwras. Ayto, omws, den shmainei oti h synainesh ayth qa epiblhqei apo ejwterikes pieseis kai ejwterikes dynameis. H synainesh einai ellhnikh ypoqesh, prwton kai kyrion. Kai qa parameinei ellhnikh ypoqesh. Einai ypoqesh toy ellhnikoy politikoy systhmatos. Qa thn epidiwjoyme. Ean den yparxei, qa synexisoyme me tis dikes mas dynameis. 'Exoyme mia istorikh eyqynh na allajoyme th xwra. Kai opws chfisame thn prwth daneiakh symbash, etsi qa chfisoyme kai th deyterh daneiakh symbash. Synaineseis qa epidiwjoyme, alla den qetoyme qema 180 chfwn.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate oti synexizete me apofasistikothta sthn ylopoihsh toy mesoproqesmoy, to opoio, an kala exw katalabei, grafthke ton Ioynio, alla me oroys Maioy kai ta xronodiagrammata einai para poly asfyktika. 'Hqela na sas rwthsw, ston baqmo poy isxyei, oti prepei na kanoyme mia apokratikopoihsh ana deka hmeres, poia akribws einai ta apotelesmata poy exete na epideijete kai pote qa prolaboyme, toylaxiston, mesa sto kalokairi na exoyme ayta ta apotelesmata.

MOSIALOS: Opws gnwrizete, ston katalogo twn apokratikopoihsewn, yparxei kai enas ariqmos apokratikopoihsewn poy den einai para poly shmantikos. Einai enas eyrys katalogos aytos. Oi megales apokratikopoihseis den einai poly megales se ariqmo. 'Ara, to dhmosieyma to opoio diairei tis 365 meres toy xronoy me ton ariqmo twn apokratikopoihsewn, den antapokrinetai sto megeqos to opoio epidiwkoyme. Ayto qelw na sas pw. Epidiwkoyme, epomenws, prwta kai kyria, thn systash toy Tameioy twn idiwtikopoihsewn me synainesh. Kai edw einai poly qetiko na tonisw, oti h N.D. synainei s' ayto to pedio kai einai ejairetika qetiko. Na systaqei epomenws to Tameio twn apokratikopoihsewn kai qa proxwrhsoyme apo ekei kai pera.

GARGALAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, akoyga toys panepisthmiakoys aytes tis dyo teleytaies meres poy lene na paei to nomosxedio ton Septembrh. Den jerw an yparxei kapoia ysteroboylia pisw apo ayth thn protash, kaq' oti ton Septembrh qa einai fysika anoikta ta panepisthmia, enw twra den einai, alla mhpws yparxei sth dikh sas skech ysteroboylia na qelete na perasete to nomosxedio, xwris na exei katalhfqei kanena panepisthmio kai loipa, ws antidrash kai ti lete epiprosqeta gia tis merikes enstaseis poy diatypwse h N.D.;

MOSIALOS: Epitrecte moy na qesw to qema sthn oysia toy: Xreiazetai na exoyme metarryqmish twn Anwtatwn Ekpaideytikwn Idrymatwn sth xwra mas h oxi; Ayth einai h oysia toy qematos. Otan eimaste pemptoi sth xrhmatodothsh ths anwtaths ekpaideyshs kai 24oi sta apotelesmata metajy twn xwrwn toy OOSA, ayto kai mono to stoixeio mas ypodeiknyei oti qa prepei na ginei amesh metarryqmish twn AEI.

Epishmainw oti exoyme 35 xiliades 'Ellhnes foithtes poy spoydazoyn se jena panepisthmia, ena megalo pososto aytwn se metaptyxiaka programmata. Eimaste apo tis teleytaies xwres sthn Eyrwpaikh 'Enwsh sthn eisroh jenwn foithtwn kai oi jenoi foithtes mporoyn na feroyn synallagma sth xwra mas kai na dieqnopoihsoyn ta ellhnika panepisthmia.

Sas dinw, epishs, merika akomh stoixeia:

- Thn teleytaia pentaetia to 20% twn foithtwn sta ellhnika AEI den oloklhrwse tis spoydes toy.

- Apo toys 100 foithtes poy petyxan stis ejetaseis twn TEI, mono oi 42 phran ptyxio ta teleytaia 5 xronia. Oi 29 qeseis emeinan kenes kai oi 29 foithtes apo toys 100 poy petyxan sta TEI den oloklhrwsan tis spoydes toys ta teleytaia 5 xronia.

- Enw h mesh diarkeia foithshs, h mesh diarkeia spoydwn sta ellhnika panepisthmia einai 4,5 xronia, h mesh diarkeia spoydwn sthn oysia einai 6 xronia, me to 55% twn foithtwn na spoydazoyn gia panw apo 6 xronia, enw to 15 % twn foithtwn gia panw apo 7 xronia.

- Apo toys 580 xiliades foithtes poy einai eggegrammenoi se AEI kai TEI, mono oi 240 xiliades foithtes zhthsan na paroyn biblia fetos. Dhladh, to 41,4 % twn foithtwn endiaferqhke gia na parei ta biblia toy.

- Kai epiprosqetws sas epishmainw - ayto einai endeiktiko ths katastashs twn AEI- oti ta biblia, ta syggrammata kaqe xrono kostizoyn sto ellhniko dhmosio 62 ekatommyria eyrw, poy an ginoyn chfiaka, opws emeis problepoyme, mesa sthn epomenh trietia stadiaka, qa yparxei megalh ejoikonomhsh gia to ellhniko dhmosio, etsi wste na idryqoyn epiteloys biblioqhkes, sobares biblioqhkes, antagwnistikes biblioqhkes, poy qa ejyphretoyn oloys toys foithtes.

Yphrxan enstaseis apo toys prytaneis, merikes apo tis opoies symmerizetai kai h N.D., opws gia th symmetoxh twn foithtwn sthn eklogh twn dioikhsewn. Edw prepei na kopei ayth h idiotyph symfwnia poy polles fores yparxei gia thn eklogh twn symboyliwn dioikhshs twn prytanikwn arxwn. Emeis eimaste para poly safeis edw: Oi foithtes qa exoyn logo sth dioikhsh twn panepisthmiwn, den qa symmetexoyn omws me ton tropo poy symmetexoyn shmera sthn anadeijh twn prytanikwn arxwn.

Qa perimena apo th N.D. na syzhthsei mazi mas eyrytera zhthmata, opws:

- h ajiologhsh twn kaqhghtwn, poy epiteloys qa prepei na ginei,

- oi kanones xrhmatodothshs ths anwtaths ekpaideyshs. Mia xrhmatodothsh, h opoia qa prepei na ginetai me sygkekrimena epiteygmata twn panepisthmiwn, me bash stoxoys poy qetoyn ta idia ta panepisthmia. Oxi xrhmatodothsh mono me bash toys foithtes, giati opws tonisa prin, h mesh diarkeia twn spoydwn den antapokrinetai stis oysiastikes prodiagrafes poy qa eprepe na exei h ellhnikh ekpaideysh.

Kai parallhla, na syzhthsoyme mazi me th N.D. qemata, opws h dieqnopoihsh twn panepisthmiwn, h ejwstrefeia twn panepisthmiwn kai to oysiastiko ekpaideytiko kai ereynhtiko ergo.

Ayta ta qemata qa hqela na syzhthsoyme me th N.D, kai oxi tis symfwnies twn prytanikwn arxwn me to foithtiko kinhma.

KEXAGIA: Kyrie ypoyrge, eipate oti h kybernhsh den qetei zhthma 180 chfwn sthn chfoforia gia to neo daneiako programma. Me dedomenh kai th qesh poy exei diatypwsei h N.D., oysiastika den afhnete th N.D. sthn hsyxia ths na mhn synainei; Kai fainetai na mhn kanete kapoia prospaqeia oysiastikh gia epiteyjh synaineshs.

MOSIALOS: Oxi, den afhnoyme th N.D. sthn hsyxia ths, kyria Kexagia. Qeloyme na epidiwjoyme th staqerothta sth xwra. Aytos einai o kyrios stoxos. Kai h staqerothta sth xwra diasfalizetai me thn ejasfalish twn daneiakwn anagkwn ths xwras gia ta epomena tria xronia. Kai emeis qa thn epidiwjoyme ayth thn ejasfalish, thn exoyme hdh petyxei se epipedo Symboylioy Koryfhs ths E.E. kai qa synexisoyme sthn ylopoihsh toy programmatos mas. Qa epidiwjoyme, omws, sthn poreia ths ylopoihshs toy programmatos mas, synaineseis kai me alla politika kommata. Kai qa qelame na doyme kai thn antapokrish twn politikwn kommatwn, oxi mono oson afora sthn ylopoihsh toy mesoproqesmoy programmatos, alla kai allwn megalwn metarryqmisewn, opws h metarryqmish sta Anwtata Ekpaideytika Idrymata, opws oi allages stis forologikes arxes, sto forologiko systhma. 'Exoyme mia ekqesh shmera toy k. Rakintzh gia thn apotelesmatikothta twn forologikwn arxwn. 'Exei milhsei o ypoyrgos twn Oikonomikwn gia thn anagkaiothta enos eqnikoy forologikoy plaisioy kai mias eqnikhs epitrophs gia thn anamorfwsh toy forologikoy systhmatos. Kai den einai qema mono diaforetikwn forologikwn syntelestwn. Den einai qema mono dikaiosynhs to forologiko systhma, einai kai qema apotelesmatikothtas, dhmioyrgias diaforetikwn eispraktikwn mhxanismwn. Sta qemata ayta, kaloyme th N.D. kai ta alla politika kommata na syzhthsoyme xwris prokatalhceis, to tonizw ayto.

SIDERHS: Ep' aytoy: H ekqesh toy k. Rakintzh den apotelei kolafo gia sas; Eikosi mhnes eisaste pleon sthn ejoysia. Ti kanate ws pros ayth thn kateyqynsh, afoy to jerate kai jerete oti h N.D. exei dialysei olosxerws oloys toys eispraktikoys mhxanismoys;

MOSIALOS: Qa sas apanthsw kyrie Siderh:

- Allajame rizika to forologiko systhma kai gia prwth fora ta forologika adikhmata einai kai poinika adikhmata. Den hsan prin poinika adikhmata.

- Zhthsame thn epitaxynsh twn forologikwn dikwn. Kai sas epishmainw edw oti epibalame prostima ths tajhs twn 3,4 dis eyrw to 2010. Sygkrinete ta me ta prostima epi kybernhshs ths N.D., poy den yperebhsan ta 300 - 400 ekatommyria. 'Otan omws epiballeis prostima ths tajhs twn 3,4 dis, perimeneis apo th dikastikh ejoysia, apo th dikaiosynh na antapokriqei. Kai gi' ayto zhthsame kai thn epispeysh twn forologikwn dikwn. Ayth th stigmh, exoyme mia apofash toy Dioikhtikoy Efeteioy Aqhnwn, poy qewrei thn protroph ths kybernhshs, th nomoqetikh protroph gia epispeysh twn forologikwn dikwn ws antisyntagmatikh. Pisteyoyme oti to Symboylio ths Epikrateias den qa deijei thn idia stash kai oti qa arxisei epiteloys h epispeysh twn forologikwn dikwn gia na mporei na eisprattei kai to ellhniko dhmosio ta prostima ta opoia exei epibalei.

Epomenws, eginan bhmata. Einai arketa; Den einai arketa. Kai gi' ayto, qa prepei na perasoyme se ena neo eqniko forologiko plaisio. Kai gi' ayto epishs kaloyme kai ta ypoloipa kommata toy Ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy na syzhthsoyme to poio qa einai ayto to neo forologiko plaisio. Den qa kaqysterhsoyme. Ton Septembrio qa to exoyme.

MOYRELATOS: Molis twra mas perigrafete, akoma ena epeisodio se mia ypogeia diamaxh ths kybernhshs me th Dikaiosynh. Antexei h kybernhsh politika ayth thn periodo na anoijei akomh ena metwpo kai ayto me th Dikaiosynh;

MOSIALOS: Gia ton eksygxronismo ths ellhnikhs koinwnias, gia thn anadiarqrwsh toy kratoys kai gia na perasoyme se mia nea epoxh qa anoijoyme osa metwpa xreiazontai. Den mporoyme na meinoyme sto parelqon. Qa antimetwpisoyme ola ta aitia ths kakodaimonias. Ayto poy blepoyme twra, me ta megala elleimmata kai ta megala xreh, einai ta symptwmata ths kakodiaxeirishs ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias. Epomenws, kamia ejoysia den einai sto apyroblhto. Apo edw kai empros, oloi qa prepei na leitoyrgoyme apotelesmatika.

MPEKA: Kyrie ypoyrge, einai safes oti mphkame se adiejodo me to qema twn omologwn, me polles antirrhseis kai allhlosygkroyomenes apoceis poy diatypwnoyn krath kai idiwtes anejarthta, me tis enstaseis poy exoyn pros toys oikoys ajiologhshs. Ayto den to bazw sto logariasmo. Ayto poy qetw, to pio aplo paradeigma, einai oi dhlwseis toy yfypoyrgoy Oikonomikwn ths Germanias, o opoios malista, exei aporriptikes qeseis gia to sxedio ths Gallias. To idio egine kai gia th Filandia. Poia einai h apoch sas gi` ayto;

MOSIALOS: Kat` epanalhch, sas exw epishmanei oti h ellhnikh kybernhsh den mporei na mpei se ayth th syzhthsh. Opoiadhpote parembash ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs se mia diadikasia, sthn opoia den qa prepei na parembainoyn ta krath, alla einai eqelontikh h symmetoxh twn idiwtwn, mporei na xarakthristei ws pistwtiko gegonos. Epomenws, na perimenoyme na ejelixqei ayth h diadikasia me ton tropo poy ejelissetai. Qa hqela, omws, edw na tonisw oti h eyrwpaikh syzhthsh exei ejelixqei apo tote. Exoyme dhlwseis toy k. Gioynker peri meiwshs twn epitokiwn. Exoyme dhlwseis toy k. Oli Ren, peri ekdoshs eyrwomologoy. Ta eyrwomologa den einai aplws eggyhseis sta ellhnika omologa, einai kai meiwsh twn epitokiwn, an qa ekdoqoyn. Ypenqymizw oti to qema twn eyrwomologwn to eqese prwtos o Prwqypoyrgos, to Dekembrio toy 2009, prin akoma anoijei ayth h syzhthsh se eyrwpaiko epipedo. Epomenws, yparxei mia syzhthsh se ejelijh. Qa yparxoyn ejelijeis kai diergasies se eyrwpaiko epipedo kai h ellhnikh kybernhsh qa symmetexei energa se aytes tis diadikasies.

MELIGGWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, epeidh sas rwthsa prin, an h kybernhsh dramatopoiei ligo olo ayto poy symbainei, me tis frastikes epiqeseis, qelw na sas rwthsw to ejhs: Eipate prin - kai an kanw laqos diorqwste me- oti ayth th stigmh zoyme fainomena politikhs bias. Otan sysswmos o politikos kosmos ths xwras, otan htan anoixto to qema ths ``17 Noembrh'' den anagnwrize to politiko toy pragmatos kai swsta kai elege oti einai egklhmaties toy koinoy Poinikoy Dikaioy, den einai ligo epikindyno thn wra poy den anagnwrizete politiko endyma stoys tromokrates kai swsta epanalambanw, na xarakthrizete politikh bia eite tis frastikes epiqeseis, eite akomh kai to na fygei ena mpoykali nero.

MOSIALOS: Epanalambanw, gia mia akomh fora, oti exoyme koinoboyleytikh Dhmokratia, kai se ayto to plaisio ola ayta ta qemata qa syzhthqoyn sthn armodia eidikh epitroph toy Koinoboylioy, poy qa systaqei. Einai poly safhs kai kathgorhmatikh h qesh mas. Ayta ta qemata poy qetete kai osa qemata qesoyn ta kommata toy Ellhnikoy Koinoboylioy qa syzhthqoyn anoixta.

MARAQIAS: H diakommatikh epitroph qa katalhjei se ena porisma poy metajy twn allwn, ti mporei na exei ayto to porisma; Qa anaferetai akoma kai se poies einai oi dynatothtes ths astynomias se mia epixeirhsh ths, opws thn perasmenh ebdomada sthn plateia Syntagmatos;

MOSIALOS: Profanws.

MARAQIAS: An mporei na xrhsimopoiei xhmika h oxi.

MOSIALOS: Ola ayta ta qemata einai anoixta kai ta eqese kai o idios o Prwqypoyrgos. Tonisa prohgoymenws, oti h Ellhnikh Astynomia qa prepei na epixeirei mesa sto plaisio twn nomwn ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias kai toy Syntagmatos ths xwras. Kai ayta ta qemata, qa syzhthqoyn sto plaisio ths diakommatikhs epitrophs.

MARAQIAS: Ayto to ekane thn perasmenh ebdomada; Leitoyrghse mesa sto plaisio twn nomwn kai toy Syntagmatos;

MOSIALOS: Sas anefera oti qa syzhthqoyn mesa sto plaisio ths diakommatikhs epitrophs. Ayth th stigmh, den qa sxoliasw tis epixeirhsiakes logikes ths Ellhnikhs Astynomias. H topoqethsh moy einai safhs.

MPEKA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exoyme dhlwseis Toyrkoy epixeirhmatia, tis opoies den ekane kaqoloy gia plaka, oti exei systhsei etaireia, twra poy poylietai h Ellada na agorasei eji nhsia mas. Kai ola ayta sto Aigaio, kata symptwsh. Epeidh den mporeite na apokleisete mia tetoia periptwsh se mia pagkosmia oikonomia ths opoias opados einai kai o k. Prwqypoyrgos, pisteyei se mia pagkosmia diakybernhsh, s` aytes tis periptwseis ti pisteyete oti prepei na ginei;

MOSIALOS: Epeidh exw kai mia anakoinwsh ths Kthmatikhs Etaireias toy Dhmosioy, qelw na sas dieykrinisw prwton, oti den tiqetai qema nhsiwn poy anhkoyn sto dhmosio. Kai ta nhsia ta opoia piqanws anaferqhkan den einai kataxwrhmena ws dhmosia akinhta. Deyteron, gia na yparjei agora nhsiwn, akoma kai idiwtikwn, qa prepei na yparxei adeia apo to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Yparxoyn logoi eqnikhs asfaleias kaqe fora, toys opoioys ejetazei to ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas. Kai den einai mono ayto. Gia na yparjei anaptyjh sygkekrimenoy nhsioy xreiazetai eidiko rymotomiko sxedio, alla kai periballontologikes meletes. Kai edw, me poly megalh emfash, tonizw oti h xarajh toy aigialoy anhkei panta sto ellhniko dhmosio. Epishs, tonizw oti kanenas se ayth th xwra den endiaferetai ligotero gia ta eqnika qemata. Oloi mas agapame ayton ton topo. Epomenws, na stamathsoyn o laikismos kai oi yperboles poy aforoyn ayto to qema.

Sas eyxaristw.

Y.G.:

Episynaptetai h apanthtikh epistolh toy Proedroy ths Commission Jose Manuel Durao Barroso pros ton Prwqypoyrgo G. A. Papandreoy.

Agaphte Prwqypoyrge,

Sas eyxaristw gia thn epistolh sas ths 30hs Ioynioy. Qa hqela na sas sygxarw gia to apotelesma ths chfoforias sto ellhniko koinoboylio, to opoio anoigei to dromo gia thn amesh ektamieysh ths epomenhs doshs gia thn Ellada kai gia apofaseis sxetikes me ena neo programma.

H epistolh sas antanakla tis syzhthseis mas, oi opoies elaban xwra epeita apo thn prwtoboylia moy prin apo to Eyrwpaiko Symboylio ths 23hs kai 24hs Ioynioy. Eimai ikanopoihmenos gia to oti h protash moy proetoimasias enos oloklhrwmenoy programmatos texnikhs bohqeias kai epitaxynshs ths aporrofhshs twn kondyliwn ths EE elabe thn omofwnh yposthrijh toy Eyrwpaikoy Symboylioy. Sxetikes proetoimasies proxwroyn epishs entos ths Epitrophs kai qa hqela na paroysiasw syntoma tis idees mas se ayth thn epistolh.

Skopeyw na dhmioyrghsw mia eidikh omada (task force) entos ths Epitrophs me epikefalhs anwtero ajiwmatoyxo. H eidikh omada qa einai ypeyqynh, katw apo th dikh moy epopteia kai thn amesh kaqodhghsh toy Epitropoy Rehn, na synergastei stena me tis ellhnikes arxes kai ta alla Krath-Melh etsi wste na syntonisqei h texnikh bohqeia poy h Ellada endexomenws xreiasqei gia na antapokriqei sto programma ths EE / DNT. H eidikh omada qa mporoyse na prosdiorisei kai na symfwnhsei apo koinoy me tis ellhnikes arxes tis leptomereies toy eidoys ths texnikhs bohqeias, h opoia qa parasxeqei, ta apotelesmata ta opoia anamenontai na prokycoyn kai to xronodiagramma twn ergasiwn, klp. Ayto qa mas epitrecei na anazhthsoyme to katallhlo eidos texnognwsias apo ta Krath-Melh, apo alloys dieqneis organismoys kai apo ton idiwtiko tomea se kapoies periptwseis. Qa hqela na sas zhthsw na orisete ena proswpo h mia organwtikh monada, h opoia qa anaferetai apeyqeias se esas kai h opoia qa leitoyrgei san monimos syndesmos me thn eidikh omada mas.

H idia eidikh omada ths Epitrophs qa ergastei me tis ellhnikes arxes gia thn epitaxynsh ths aporrofhshs twn kondyliwn twn diarqrwtikwn tameiwn. Opws gnwrizete, h Epitroph hdh diaqetei kapoia texnikh bohqeia sthn Aqhna kai ayth h leitoyrgia einai dynaton na symplhrwqei ean ayto xreiastei. Xreiazetai na antimetwpisoyme me apofasistikothta tis dyskolies, oi opoies briskontai pisw apo thn penixrh xrhsimopoihsh kondyliwn. Prosdokw na labw to sxetiko oloklhrwmeno sxedio, to opoio anaferete sthn epistolh sas. Kati tetoio qa epetrepe sta stelexh mas na synergastoyn gia th diakoph parwxhmenwn h problhmatikwn projects kai na estiasoyn sthn prospaqeia anazwogonhshs ths oikonomias kai entajhs toy anqrwpinoy dynamikoy sthn ergasia h/kai sthn epaggelmatikh katartish.

Ta stelexh mas qa mporesoyn epishs na krinoyn ean yparxoyn tropoi epitaxynshs ths efarmoghs sto plaisio twn isxyontwn kanonwn. Skopeyw bebaiws na proteinw thn allagh twn kanonwn, alla ayto qa parei xrono kai qa hqela na apofygw tis kaqysterhseis an ayto einai dynato. Symfwnw mazi sas oti h synergasia me thn Eyrwpaikh Trapeza Ependysewn qa bohqoyse poly kai pisteyw pws oi armodioi qa einai proqymoi na syneisferoyn.

Exoyme kai oi dyo mas syneidhsh ths krisimhs shmasias gia thn Ellada kai thn EE ths epityxoys efarmoghs toy programmatos ths EE / DNT. Qa hqela epishs na kanw o,ti mporw ws Eyrwpaikh Epitroph gia thn prowqhsh ths anaptyjhs kai ths apasxolhshs sthn Ellada, wste na doqei sto lao elpida kai empistosynh gia to mellon. Mporeite na ypologizete sthn plhrh yposthrijh moy. Prokeimenoy na yparjei amesh synexeia se ayth thn antallagh twn apocewn mas qa proteina th diejagwgh mias synanthshs metajy stelexwn mas mesa stis epomenes hmeres.

Me Timh

Jose Manuel Barroso

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