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Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-12-15

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 15 Dekembrioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 240745233

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 15 Dekembrioy 2009

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalo meshmeri.

" Na qesoyme ena genikotero plaisio. O Prwqypoyrgos, me safh kai kaqaro tropo, paroysiase xqes toys ajones panw stoys opoioys qa epidiwjoyme na oikodomhsoyme th nea koinwnikh symfwnia, wste na proxwrhsoyme amesa stis allages kai stis rizikes tomes poy exei anagkh h xwra. Paroysiase sygkekrimena metra poy synqetoyn ton ``odiko xarth'' poy qa odhghsei sta epomena xronia, me tis prospaqeies olwn mas, sthn ejodo apo thn polypleyrh krish poy biwnei h ellhnikh koinwnia. Den eimaste kybernhsh poy hqele na diaxeiristei ta pragmata, alla kybernhsh anatropwn kai rhjewn, me o,ti krata thn Ellada kaqhlwmenh, me o,ti mas empodizei na diekdikhsoyme to mellon poy mas ajizei. Bazoyme teleia kai payla sthn anapofasistikothta, thn atolmia, thn adraneia poy xarakthrize tis politikes ths prohgoymenhs kybernhshs kai stis opoies ofeiletai h shmerinh dyskolh katastash.

Emeis jekaqarisame oti den milame gia ``meremetia''. Milame gia pragmatika rizikes tomes. Den milame gia hpia prosarmogh, oyte gia sklhra metra epi dikaiwn kai adikwn. Emeis milame gia dikaies anatropes, pantoy. Me thn Politeia, na dinei prwth to paradeigma. To mhnyma mas einai jekaqaro: Mporoyme kai qa ta kataferoyme. Mporoyme na kerdisoyme th maxh enantia sth diafqora, thn adiafaneia, th spatalh, thn pelateiakh logikh sth leitoyrgia toy kratoys, th maxh enantia se ayta poy plhgwnoyn ton Ellhna.

Mporoyme na kerdisoyme th maxh gia thn Ellada ths ajiopistias, thn Ellada toy koinwnikoy kratoys, thn Ellada ths prasinhs anaptyjhs. To xrwstame sthn patrida mas. Einai h wra poy oloi mas, politika kommata, koinwnikoi foreis kai polites, kaloymaste na analaboyme tis eyqynes poy mas analogoyn. Einai h wra poy oloi mazi kaloymaste na kanoyme thn krish, eykairia gia mia Ellada diaforetikh.

" Kai mia anakoinwsh sxetika me to qema toy yfypoyrgoy Eswterikwn k. Roblia. Meta, loipon, to qema poy dhmioyrghqhke, o yfypoyrgos Eswterikwn k. Roblias dieykrinise oti yphrje problhma sto pws paroysiasthkan ta sygkekrimena stoixeia, dhladh, oti den diakinhqhkan apo to grafeio toy. Plhn omws, gia na mh dhmioyrghqei kamia skia gia pelateiakes sxeseis ths shmerinhs kybernhshs, ypebale thn paraithsh toy ston Prwqypoyrgo, h opoia egine dekth. O Prwqypoyrgos gia ola ayta ta qemata epishmane oti prepei na diamorfwqoyn kanones deontologias poy qa desmeyoyn ola ta melh ths kybernhshs apo dw kai pera kai aneqese th sxetikh eishghsh ston antiproedro ths kybernhshs k. Pagkalo.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KALOSTYPH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ayth th stigmh poy milame exei arxisei to Symboylio twn Politikwn Arxhgwn, ypo ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, alla hdh, opws akoysame kai ton k. Samara sthn Koinoboyleytikh Omada na milaei, den dinei th synainesh toy. Xarakthrise eyxologio to programma toy k. Prwqypoyrgoy kai oti den exei sxedio. To erwthma moy einai, pws, enw h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh, olos aytos o kosmos poy sthrizei shmera th Nea Dhmokratia, akoyei ton arxhgo na mh dinei th synainesh, pws einai dynato na proxwrhsoyn ayta ta metra toy Prwqypoyrgoy, otan ena poly megalo meros ths koinwnias poy akoyei ton k. Samara na milaei gia afhrhmena metra, mh kostologhmena ktl, qa mporesei na efarmostei apo thn kybernhsh ayto to programma;

PETALWTHS: Emeis kanoyme mia sygkekrimenh prosklhsh gia enan eyrytero koinwniko dialogo se polites, kommata kai foreis. Apo kei kai pera, einai eyqynh toy kaqenos, idiaitera ths ajiwmatikhs antipoliteyshs, na analogistei tis terasties eyqynes, ejaitias twn opoiwn dhmioyrghqhke h shmerinh krish poy biwnei h Ellada. Kai anti na taytizetai me to kybernhtiko parelqon, to opoio katadikase o ellhnikos laos, me toso ameso tropo, perimename kai perimenoyme akomh, h ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh na einai pio ypeyqynh ws komma kai na dwsei ekeines tis eyreies synaineseis, tis opoies h kybernhsh toy PASOK zhtaei apo ton ellhniko lao. Qa htan gia mas mia poly eykolh epilogh, me thn kybernhtikh kai thn koinoboyleytikh pleiochfia poy diaqetoyme, na programmatisoyme kai na ylopoihsoyme monoi mas, tis politikes mas epiloges. Epeidh pisteyoyme omws oti o topos, stis shmerines synqhkes, xreiazetai synainesh, gi` ayto kalesame kai kaloyme akomh kai shmera, thn ajiwmatikh antipoliteysh na staqei sto ycos twn peristasewn.

MIXAHL: Kyrie Ekproswpe, qelw na epishmanw mia mikrh antifash sthn olh protash ths kybernhshs. To ti proteine o k. Papandreoy xqes einai safes. To pws ektimatai, ayto afora ton kaqena. Omws, enw exoyme thn protash toy k. Papandreoy apo th mia meria kai ths kybernhshs, apo thn allh o Prwqypoyrgos mas milaei gia ena kratos, to opoio einai anorganwto, ena kratos to opoio exei terastia problhmata sygkrothshs kai leitoyrgias kai anarwtiemai: H protash ayth pws qa ylopoihqei apo ena tetoio kratos, to opoio den yfistatai sthn oysia kai prepei na ftiaxtei apo thn arxh;

PETALWTHS: Ma, mia apo tis megales proklhseis tis opoies bazoyme se ayton ton anoikto koinwniko dialogo, einai h dhmioyrgia enos kratoys ajiopistoy, h dhmioyrgia enos kratoys poy qa einai sthn yphresia toy polith. Hdh, o Prwqypoyrgos kai to PASOK, exoyme pei para polles fores oti to kratos shmera sthn Ellada einai ena teixos, ena empodio gia thn anaptyjh pros ofelos toy Ellhna polith. Ean den ftiajoyme, ean den anadiarqrwsoyme kai an den diorqwsoyme ayto to kratos to opoio biwnoyme oloi, den mporei na yparxoyn allages. Gi` ayto to PASOK -kai stis proeklogikes toy desmeyseis- exei sygkekrimenes protaseis tis opoies qa qesei kai ston koinwniko dialogo gia thn anadiarqrwsh toy kratoys. Oytws h allws, emeis kaname to prwto bhma apo thn prwth mera ths diakybernhshs mas, me thn katarghsh kai dhmioyrgia diaforetikwn ypoyrgeiwn. Emeis kanoyme mia poly megalh tomh me mia kainotomia sobarotath, etsi wste na epilejoyme ta ikanotera stelexh gia th stelexwsh ths dioikhshs. Akomh, proxwrame kai bazoyme ston koinwniko dialogo th dioikhtikh anadiarqrwsh ths xwras, ton periorismo twn epipedwn aytodioikhshs, etsi wste sto telos na exoyme ena diaforetiko kratos ap` ayto poy exoyme shmera.

MIXAHL: H prwth antidrash twn dieqnwn paragontwn, agorwn, ths KOMISION, qa elega oti einai mallon sygkrathmenh ews entona epifylaktikh. Ayto to anamenate; Kai ti allo perimenete; Pote perimenete na allajei ayto; Ti allo mporeite na kanete gia na to allajete;

PETALWTHS: As mhn jexname oti jekinhsame prin apo dyo mhnes me ena terastio elleimma ajiopistias ths xwras mas. Ajiopistia poy th biwnoyme oi pantes, oles aytes tis hmeres kai malista me amesh synepeia kai sta oikonomika mas. Blepoyme, omws, oti para ta osa perimenan kapoioi sth Synodo Koryfhs twn Bryjellwn, na exoyme pleon mia qetikh antimetwpish twn etairwn mas sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh kai meta th xqesinh omilia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, opoy ta metra poy ejhggeile einai akomh pio sygkekrimena, exoyme akomh qetikoteres antidraseis. Emeis to stoixhma poy bazoyme einai stoixhma ajiopistias prwta pros ton Ellhna polith kai bebaiws kai pros toys etairoys mas giati h sxesh mas me thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh alla kai me tis agores, exoyn amesh epiptwsh kai sthn kaqhmerinothta toy Ellhna polith.

KEFALA: Eipate, oti me tis anakoinwseis toy k. Papandreoy xqes, alla molis dhlwse o k. Almoynia oti perimenei sygkekrimenes xeiropiastes protaseis apo thn Ellada, dhladh metra apo thn Ellada, eseis ti apantate; Telika, den exei peisei o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos; Mhpws xreiazetai xronos; Giati, molis ta eipe twra sth synenteyjh Typoy stis Bryjelles.

PETALWTHS: Emeis, exoyme apanthsei kai olo ayto to diasthma. Apanthse o Prwqypoyrgos, sth synenteyjh Typoy stis Bryjelles kai apanthse kai me th xqesinh omilia toy. Gnwrizoyme oti to na anastrecoyme ayto to klima anajiopistias ths xwras mas einai dyskolo. Gnwrizoyme oti xreiazetai na kanoyme polla bhmata. Ta bhmata, omws, poy kanoyme einai pragmatika almata, etsi wste na anakthsoyme jana thn ajiopistia ths xwras mas.

KEFALA: Nai, alla ayta ta metra qa meiwsoyn pragmati to elleimma; Giati ayto profanws den exei peisei tis Bryjelles.

PETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos exei hdh desmeyqei, sth xqesinh omilia toy, me sygkekrimena xronodiagrammata kai sygkekrimena qemata, zhthmata meiwshs toy elleimmatos kai toy terastioy xreoys poy exoyme ws xwra.

KALOSTYPH: Kyrie Ekproswpe, einai anamfibolo oti oi xqesines ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy exoyn prokalesei anastatwsh megalh. Kai ayto, arkei na to dei kaneis an staqei mprosta se ena periptero, na dei ta prwtoselida olwn twn efhmeridwn, opws kremontai ekei. Kai parathrei kaneis oti yparxoyn dyo fainomenika akra stis efhmerides. Dhladh, apo th mia blepoyme sta prwtoselida oti ayta poy eipe xqes o k. Prwqypoyrgos oti prokeitai gia ``beloydina'' metra, ta opoia endexomenws oi Bryjelles den ta krinoyn ayth th stigmh akrws ikanopoihtika. Apo thn allh, yparxei h apoch oti p.x. 430.000 ypallhloi toy Dhmosioy qa ``plhrwsoyn th nyfh''. Ti apo ta dyo isxyei, giati kai ta dyo den ginetai na isxyoyn. Ayto einai to ena skelos. Kai to allo, yparxei kai mia apoch poy leei, meta apo ayta, oti apo to 1981 ews to 1990 kai apo to 1994 ews shmera oles oi kybernhseis odhghsan th xwra sth xrewkopia. Kai to erwthma einai, an symmerizeste ayth thn apoch.

PETALWTHS: Prwta ap` ola, opws dhlwse kai o Prwqypoyrgos xqes, to PASOK klhqhke kai meta to 1993 na bgalei th xwra apo thn terastia oikonomikh dyskolh qesh -kai to 1981 bebaiws- alla kai shmera, to 2009, na prospaqoyme na bgaloyme th xwra apo mia para poly asxhmh oikonomikh katastash. Apo ekei kai pera, oi ektimhseis poy kanei o kaqenas, einai dikaiwma toy na tis kanei. Ta dhmosieymata einai dhmosieymata. Einai sebasta. Oi qeseis poy pairnoyn oi oikonomikoi analytes kai o kaqe analyths, o kaqe poliths, einai sebastes. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, yparxei mia staqerh politikh grammh ths kybernhshs. Opws eipa kai prohgoymenws, den milame oyte gia hpia prosarmogh, oyte gia sklhra metra epi dikaiwn kai adikwn. Kai to epanalambanw: Emeis, exoyme sygkekrimenes politikes, symfwna me tis opoies eimaste sigoyroi oti kai apo thn krish qa bgoyme, alla parallhla qa prostateysoyme kai ta asqenestera oikonomika strwmata ths koinwnias mas. Einai proeklogikh desmeysh. Einai ajia kai ideologia toy PASOK, thn opoia den mporoyme na thn afhsoyme sthn akrh.

POLYMEROS: Xqes, akoysa, metajy allwn, ton Prwqypoyrgo na leei oti osa den eginan apo tis prohgoymenes kybernhseis stis perasmenes dekaeties, qa to kanoyme emeis se treis mhnes. Ayto to antistrefw kai to kanw aporia moy: Pws qa mporoyse mia kybernhsh, h sygkekrimenh kybernhsh, h kybernhsh toy PASOK na kanei kati tetoio;

PETALWTHS: H sygkekrimenh kybernhsh toy PASOK, exoyn antilhfqei oloi oi Ellhnes polites oti leitoyrgei me ena teleiws diaforetiko tropo apo alles kybernhseis. Eimaste apofasismenoi na allajoyme ola ta kakws keimena ths xwras kai epeidh briskomaste se ayth th dyskolh katastash, gi` ayto prospaqoyme kai qa to kanoyme me ton pio ameso tropo. Emeis den eipame oti se treis mhnes qa lyqoyn ola ta problhmata ths xwras. Alla ola ta problhmata, ta megala problhmata, hdh exoyn dromologhqei me sygkekrimeno xronodiagramma, etsi wste mesa apo eyreies synaineseis na mporesoyme na proseggisoyme, me ton kalytero tropo, thn epilysh toys.

MPOTWNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, o Prwqypoyrgos xqes eipe oti katargoyntai ta Grafeia Typoy sto ejwteriko. Einai telika katarghsh h qa entaxqoyn stis presbeies, giati yparxei mia yparxei mia anastatwsh sto ypoyrgeio.

PETALWTHS: Milame gia enswmatwsh twn Grafeiwn Typoy stis presbeies. Ayta, omws, einai metra poy qa ejeidikeytoyn kai meta apo to sxetiko dialogo.

KALOSTYPH: Diabazontas ta metra ena-ena, tis ejaggelies toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia thn ejygiansh kai thn patajh ths diafqoras, akoysame oti milhse gia 10% meiwsh stis amoibes poy isxyoyn shmera stis DEKO gia ta dieyqyntika stelexh. Ayto den einai kapws ligo, as to poyme etsi, otan akoma den exei dieykrinistei to pws qa diamorfwqei to pagwma, h kaqhlwsh h h mikrh ayjhsh stoys misqoys twn ypallhlwn, apo 2.000-2.001 eyrw. Den einai, dhladh, ligh ayth h meiwsh gia ta dieyqyntika stelexh, enw gia toys ypallhloys einai isws pollh;

PETALWTHS: Oi meiwseis einai stoxeymenes. Apo ekei kai pera, omws, gia na milhsoyme pio eidika gia ta sygkekrimena metra, prepei na anoijei o dialogos. Na yparjei peras toy dialogoy kai na anakoinwqoyn oi apofaseis. Ws pros toys misqoys, ennoeitai oti, me nomoqethma, qa kaqoristei kai h eisodhmatikh politikh, etsi wste na milame pio sygkekrimena.

MPOTWNHS: Akoysa se thleoptikh ekpomph, shmera, ton Proedro toy OPAP na leei oti exei paraithqei apo tis 7 Oktwbrioy, alla paramenei, leei, sth qesh toy, giati eseis  h kybernhsh, oxi eseis- toy eipate na meinei. Pote qa ginoyn oi allages aytes kai ston OPAP kai se alles yphresies, poy ayth th stigmh den mporoyn na leitoyrghsoyn;

PETALWTHS: Hdh, ginontai oi allages kai anakoinwnontai kaqe hmera.

Sas eyxaristw.


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