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Greek Government Press Briefing, 10-04-20

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

Dieyqynsh Plhroforhshs

Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 20 Aprilioy 2010

Ariqmos Deltioy: 263193583

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 20 Aprilioy 2010

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalhmera sas.

H kybernhsh dinei kaqhmerinh maxh gia th dhmioyrgia enos diktyoy asfaleias gia toys polites ths xwras. Apo thn arxh ths qhteias mas yphrjame eilikrineis apenanti stoys polites, xwris na wraiopoioyme h na stroggylopoioyme katastaseis. Apokalycame amesws poso dyskolh einai h katastash poy biwnei h xwra, poso reysto kai kaqhmerina metaballomeno einai to dieqnes oikonomiko periballon sto opoio kaloymaste na epibiwsoyme.

Labame dyskoles apofaseis, alla anagkaies, protassontas to dhmosio symferon, xwris na ypologizoyme to politiko kostos. Prowqoyme krisimes allages kai den arkoymaste se proskaira, mikrokommatikhs logikhs, hmimetra poy isws qa htan aresta, alla qa ypoqhkeyan to mellon ths xwras.

Eimaste ypoxrewmenoi na enhmerwnoyme toys polites plhrws kai gia ta panta. Eipame thn plhrh alhqeia kai etsi qa synexisoyme.

Yparxoyn, omws, eykairies mesa sthn krish, tis opoies den prepei na afhsoyme na xaqoyn. Eykairies gia ena neo paragwgiko montelo biwsimhs anaptyjhs, gia ena pio dikaio forologiko systhma, gia anadianemhtikh logikh kai telika gia ena kalytero poiotiko, diafanes kai anqrwpokentriko kratos. Pros ayth thn kateyqynsh kinoymaste me staqera bhmata kai kaloyme toys polites na einai arwgoi kai katalytes ths koinhs mas prospaqeias.

Opws hdh gnwrizete, xqes entopisthke ena diamerisma -giafka sthn Kycelh, me opla kai ekrhktika. To ypoyrgeio Prostasias toy Polith kai oi astynomikes Arxes ergazontai aqoryba kai apotelesmatika gia thn ejarqrwsh aytoy toy egklhmatikoy fainomenoy ths tromokratias sth xwra mas.

Akomh, qa moy epitrecete na meinw ligo stis ejaggelies ths ypoyrgoy Ygeias, sxetika me to oti epiteloys mpainei tajh ston tomea twn promhqeiwn, me mia seira kinhsewn kai dhmioyrgia prathrioy timwn gia ta ylika poy promhqeyontai ta nosokomeia toy ESY, opws kai h kaqierwsh ypoxrewshs, pleon, twn idiwtikwn nosokomeiwn na diathroyn farmakeio me mikroterh synolikh epibarynsh sta asfalistika Tameia. Epishs, katargoyme to Proedriko Diatagma poy liges hmeres prin tis ekloges aifnidiastika - dyo hmeres nomizw prin tis ekloges- edine thn eykairia se diagnwstika kentra, na idryontai, na leitoyrgoyn anejelegkta kai malista xwris pososto iatrikhs symmetoxhs.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Symmerizetai h kybernhsh, kat` arxhn, thn ektimhsh oti pia einai qema xronoy na ypobalei thn aithsh gia energopoihsh toy mhxanismoy sthrijhs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh pairnei oles tis anagkaies apofaseis, otan kai an xreiazontai, me gnwmona to dhmosio symferon, to eqniko symferon, fysika kai me oroys koinwnias. Poy shmainei oti qa prepei na diasfalizoyme, me oles tis energeies mas, kai thn aparaithth koinwnikh synoxh. Apo kei kai pera, emeis syzhtame, etsi wste na proetoimastei o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs, gia na einai etoimos otan kai an ton xreiastoyme.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti den exete ypobalei thn aithsh, alla ergazeste, opws lete, gia na einai panta etoimos, dhmioyrgei ena klima to opoio den bohqaei oyte thn oikonomia na perpathsei, dhmioyrgei mia anhsyxia ston kosmo gia to ti mporei na shmainei energopoihsh toy mhxanismoy, eidika me thn paroysia twn anqrwpwn toy DNT edw kai epipleon parateinei mia katastash, h opoia den fainetai na teleiwnei. Olo ayto to klima, sas problhmatizei;

PETALWTHS: Emeis energoyme me plhrh ypeyqynothta, cyxraimia kai sobarothta. Kai gi` ayto akribws, xwris na exoyme ypobalei aithma gia energopoihsh toy mhxanismoy - ayto qa to kanoyme ean xreiastei kai opote xreiastei- qeloyme aytoi oi oroi na einai oi pio jekaqaroi, etsi wste ean xreiastei na energopoihsoyme ayto to mhxanismo, na gnwrizoyme ek twn proterwn me poioys oroys qa ton energopoihsoyme.

MAKRYGIANNHS: En pash periptwsei, shmera eimaste pio konta h pio makria apo to mhxanismo;

PETALWTHS: Den yparxei apanthsh se ayto.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Me ta spreads sta 4,70, lew.

PETALWTHS: To gnwrizoyme. Den yparxei apanthsh se ayto. Otan kai an xreiastei, qa ton energopoihsoyme.

KOYTRAS: Yparxei periptwsh h kybernhsh, dhladh, na bgei na daneistei me ayta ta epitokia stis agores;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, sas eipa, ergazomaste me monadiko gnwmona to dhmosio symferon. Kai gi` ayto akribws kanoyme olon ayton ton agwna dromoy, oloys aytoys toys mhnes, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyme synqhkes daneismoy gia th xwra mas, oi opoies qa einai synqhkes enos dikaioy kai biwsimoy daneismoy. Giati o daneismos, epanalambanw, einai ena ergaleio gia na mporesoyme na pame mprosta kai na kanoyme tis allages sth xwra mas.

TSAKIRHS: Kokkines grammes yparxoyn, oson afora to DNT; Dhladh, oson afora tis perikopes ston idiwtiko tomea, stis syntajeis, ola ayta;

PETALWTHS: Kokkines grammes; H monh kokkinh grammh einai to dhmosio symferon ths xwras. Emeis, akribws ayto kanoyme me toys oroys toys opoioys qa syzhthsoyme kai me thn proetoimasia poy kanoyme. Na proaspizoyme to symferon ths xwras kai tipote allo. Kai fysika, na epanalabw ayto poy eipa prohgoymenws: me oroys koinwnias. Thn koinwnikh synoxh den thn diapragmateyomaste. Qeloyme na yparxei skopos kai yparxei stoxeysh gi` ayto to daneismo poy ton qewroyme aplws ena ergaleio.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, lete oti qa kanete xrhsh toy mhxanismoy otan kai an xreiastei, para to gegonos oti ta spreads einai sta ych. Kai ayto moiazei ligaki antifatiko. Qa hqela na rwthsw, loipon, h kybernhsh exei kapoion problhmatismo, oson afora ayto poy kyoforeitai stoys kolpoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs, mia epanejetash wste o mhxanismos aytos na mhn exei kai to DNT;

PETALWTHS: Egw qa epanalabw ayto poy exoyme pei polles fores. H symmetoxh, estw kai ayth h en merei symmetoxh, toy DNT den htan dikh mas epilogh. Den htan kan dikh mas protash kai fysika den apofasisame emeis monoi mas. Apofasise to synolo twn xwrwn ths eyrwzwnhs, me tis sygkekrimenes kybernhseis, me th sygkekrimenh ideologia poy exoyn. Emeis, eixame mia diaforetikh protash ws Eyrwpaioi sosialistes, opoy den yphrxe mesa to DNT. Ayto einai jekaqaro. Zhtoysame kai epidiwkame mia pio amigws eyrwpaikh lysh. Ayto prospaqoysame na kanoyme. Apo th stigmh, omws, poy yparxei ayth h apofash, me bash ayth qa poreyqoyme kai otan xreiastei qa energopoihsoyme to mhxanismo sto plaisio ayths ths apofashs. To pote qa energopoihsoyme ayto to mhxanismo, einai synarthsh pollwn paragontwn, pollwn parametrwn kai fysika ston katallhlo xrono kai me tis katallhles proypoqeseis.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean h kybernhsh parei thn apofash na zhthsei thn energopoihsh toy mhxanismoy, prin to zhthsete qa ferete to qema sth Boylh na syzhthqei;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, oytws h allws, enhmerwnoyme to Koinoboylio, eite exoyme thn typikh ypoxrewsh, eite oxi. Pantws, qa enhmerwqei kai o ellhnikos laos, alla kai to Koinoboylio. Ton tropo qa ton doyme.

MPEQANH: Hqela na sas rwthsw, epeidh xqes o Prwqypoyrgos, milwntas se synergates toy, kata tis syskeceis poy eixe me toys ypoyrgoys, eipe oti qa synexistoyn oi allages, xwris to baros na peftei sta mesaia kai sta adynama strwmata, alla prosqese oti ``ean gia na kanoyme aytes tis allages tis opoies xreiazetai o topos, qa prepei na xrhsimopoihsoyme, na katafygoyme'', opws eipe xarakthristika, ``sto mhxanismo sthrijhs, ayto qa to kanoyme'', pws qa epiteyxqei ayto; Kaqws sto mhxanismo yparxei to DNT poy apo thn plhroforhsh poy exoyme, apo osa akoyme kai apo osa diabazoyme, opoy eneplakh to DNT efere meiwseis se misqoys kai syntajeis, alla kai apolyseis sto dhmosio kai ton idiwtiko tomea.

PETALWTHS: Einai alhqeia oti ``bombardizomaste'' aytes tis hmeres me plhroforhsh sxetika me to DNT. Afoy epanalabw oti safws kai den htan dikh mas epilogh na yparxei mesa sto mhxanismo to DNT, qa hqela na eimaste pio sygkekrimenoi. Den mporoyme na sygkriqoyme oyte me tis synqhkes ths Roymanias, oyte ths Oyggarias, oyte ths Letonias, oyte kamias allhs xwras. Eimaste mia xwra me sygkekrimena xarakthristika, me sygkekrimenes anagkes, me sygkekrimenoys mhxanismoys. Kai kyriws mia kybernhsh, h opoia protoy prosfygei se opoiondhpote mhxanismo, exei labei shmantikes apofaseis sxetika me metra poy polles fores htan kai einai odynhra gia ton aplo Ellhna polith. Synepws, emeis den qa klhqoyme na paroyme metra, ean energopoihsoyme ayto to mhxanismo, apo edw kai pera. Hdh, exoyme kanei mia proetoimasia, h opoia ek twn pragmatwn apodeixqhke oti einai arketh.

Kai qa meinw se ayto poy eipa kai tis prohgoymenes hmeres, oti gia to 2010 ta metra kai oi apofaseis poy exoyme parei einai arketa, einai metra poy problepotan, oytws h allws, sto Programma Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs. Gia to 2011 kai to 2012, kaqoti to Programma Staqerothtas einai trietes, qa ejeidikeyqoyn oi peraiterw apofaseis, otan xreiastei. Ara, einai adokimo kai isws einai kai paraplanhtiko, na sygkrinoyme thn periptwsh ths Elladas me tis alles xwres, poy prosefygan sto DNT. Kai malista, oxi mesw enos eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy sthrijhs -o opoios einai enas mhxanismos poy katakthqhke, mporw na pw, mesa se aytes tis dyskoles synqhkes, kyriws me prwtoporo th xwra mas- alla phgan kateyqeian sto DNT. Aytes einai katastaseis oi opoies den einai sygkrisimes.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, an katalabainw kala, etsi opws to lete, lete oti to prwto melhma sas einai h koinwnikh synoxh. Kai twra lete oti den exoyme kamia sxesh me alles xwres. To DNT se kamia periptwsh den mphke se kamia xwra - den jerw an jerete th diaxronikh istoria toy DNT - den mphke se kamia periptwsh gia thn koinwnia. Mphke gia alloys logoys. Stoxos sas einai na kanete sosialistiko to DNT;

PETALWTHS: Oxi bebaia. Den exoyme ceydaisqhseis. Emeis, mesa sth sobarothta kai thn krisimothta twn synqhkwn, prospaqoyme kai leitoyrgoyme me cyxraimia. Eimaste staqeroi stis arxes mas. Den afhnoyme aprostateyto ton Ellhna polith. Aplws, ayto poy eipa kai to tonizw: H xwra mas den exei sxesh me tis alles xwres. Aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs den yphrxe se alles periptwseis xwrwn. Miloysame gia xwres, oi opoies prosefygan amigws sto DNT me teleiws diaforetikes synqhkes. Ara, to na kindynologoyme gia to DNT, estw kai se epipedo plhroforhshs, nomizw oti den prosferei kai polla pragmata shmera.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, lete synexeia oti ta metra poy phrate einai arketa. Ayto den qa to krinete eseis. Qa to krinoyn oi pistwtes mas. Den skefteste mhpws ektiqeste kai eseis kai h kybernhsh sthn periptwsh poy oi pistwtes den krinoyn oti ta metra einai arketa, afenos. Afeteroy, den eixate skopo na pate sto DNT. Poios to ebale sth syzhthsh; Poios eishghqhke ston Prwqypoyrgo na to balei sth syzhthsh;

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, emeis proxwrame se mia syzhthsh proetoimasias aytoy toy mhxanismoy. Synepws, gnwrizoyme kai se ti katastash briskomaste. Kai gia ayto leme oti to megalo stoixhma gia mas einai na proxwrei h ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas. Qa mas epitrecete na krinoyme - emeis krinoyme, emeis eimaste kyriarxh kybernhsh aytoy toy topoy - ean aytes oi apofaseis poy labame h ayta ta metra dinoyn pragmatika th diastash toy daneismoy poy qa xreiastei, ean xreiastei, mesw toy eyrwpaikoy mhxanismoy. Kai na qewroyme ean pragmatika briskomaste se enan kalo dromo h oxi. Epanalambanw, to megalo stoixhma mas einai h ylopoihsh toy Programmatos Staqerothtas kai Anaptyjhs.

Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, einai toylaxiston afelhs h qewrhsh oti emeis balame sth syzhthsh to DNT kai oti kaneis den to eixe ypopteyqei mexri tote, kai epeidh milhsame emeis gia DNT, gi` ayto mphke to DNT ston eyrwpaiko mhxanismo. Emeis, kai ayto poy ekane o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos htan na apariqmhsei tis dynatothtes daneismoy poy exei h xwra mas. Kai epeidh akribws eprokeito gia mia kybernhsh kai enan Prwqypoyrgo poy leitoyrgei me cyxraimia kai sobarothta, kaneis den mporei na isxyristei sobara shmera oti emeis balame to DNT sto trapezi twn diapragmateysewn. As mhn geliomaste, an den yphrxe ayth h kybernhsh kai aytos o Prwqypoyrgos, qa eixame xreokophsei h qa eixame paei amigws sto DNT poly prin apo oti syzhtame shmera.

XASAPOPOYLOS: Efoson lete oti prwto rolo se ayto ton mhxanismo ton exoyn oi eyrwpaikes kybernhseis, telos pantwn h Commission. Giati o k. Papakwnstantinoy phgainei to Sabbatokyriako sto DNT, prin kanei gyra me toys Eyrwpaioys kai prin katalhjoyn se syzhthseis; Den ton ikanopoioyn oi apestalmenoi toy DNT edw;

PETALWTHS: O k. Papakwnstantinoy qa symmetasxei sthn taktikh ethsia synedriash toy DNT. Den paei na diapragmateytei. Ayto einai dedomeno.

MIXAHL: Etsi opws sthqhke o mhxanismos me thn apofash ths 25hs Martioy kai opws ejeidikeythke meta, exoyme xondrika ta 2/3 eyrwpaikh symmetoxh kai to 1/3 peripoy toy DNT. Apo thn plhroforhsh poy exete ws ellhnikh kybernhsh, mporeite na mas peite sas parakalw ean to DNT kai h Commission exoyn brei ena plaisio symfwnias gia ti akribws qa kanoyn kai ti akribws qa prajoyn an kai efoson emeis pame kai toys poyme ``paidia qeloyme na energopoihqei o mhxanismos'';

PETALWTHS: Ayto kanoyme ayth th stigmh. Proetoimazoyme ton mhxanismo, etsi wste an xreiastei na ton energopoihsoyme, na ginei me toys kalyteroys oroys. Einai safes - kai qa sas parakalesw na meinete se ayto - oti emeis qeloyme na yparxei enas mhxanismos etoimos, etsi wste ean xreiastei, na mas sthrijei. Ara, otan leme ``mhxanismos etoimos'', ennooyme oti oles oi syzhthseis qa exoyn oloklhrwqei apo oles tis pleyres.

ROYBINETHS: Apo ta legomena sas kai apo th genikh ejelijh twn pragmatwn, katalabainw oti oi energeies toy Prwqypoyrgoy exoyn dhmioyrghsei mia kainoyrgia katastash poy mas epitrepei na pazarecoyme kai na exoyme kai mia enallaktikh lysh. Ara, den eimaste ayth h xwra, h Oyggaria h opoiadhpote allh poy me ayto ton tropo antimetwpizei to DNT. Etsi einai h kanw laqos;

PETALWTHS: Sas eipa prohgoymenws oti kaqe xwra exei ta dika ths xarakthristika. Kaqe xwra exei th dikh ths oikonomia kai oi synqhkes einai teleiws diaforetikes. Se aytes tis xwres yphrxe apeyqeias prosfygh sto DNT me toys sygkekrimenoys oroys. Emeis exoyme prosfygh ston eyrwpaiko mhxanismo sthrijhs - an kai otan qa exoyme - me teleiws diaforetikes synqhkes kai me mia aplh symmetoxh toy DNT, peripoy sto 1/3.

STRATAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, eipate nwritera oti o Prwqypoyrgos apla apariqmhse tis dynatothtes poy exoyme gia daneismo. Kai mia apo aytes tis dynatothtes einai kai to DNT. Prwton, paramenei ayth h dynatothta ws skech sthn kybernhsh; Deyteron, ejartatai apokleistika apo thn Ellada h energopoihsh toy mhxanismoy; Kai triton, ean mesa stis dynatothtes mias diapragmateyshs gia kalyteroys oroys me ton mhxanismo sthrijhs, yparxei kai to endexomeno ths apotyxias, an den ta broyme.

PETALWTHS: Emeis pantws kanoyme ta panta gia na ta broyme. Gia ayto leme oti qeloyme na eimaste etoimoi kai na eimaste leptomereis, etsi wste o mhxanismos na einai etoimos otan kai an ton xreiastoyme. Apo th stigmh poy yparxei aytos o eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs, den syzhtame gia apeyqeias prosfygh sto DNT. Prospaqoyme na dhmioyrghsoyme oroys kai synqhkes poy qa einai oi kalyteres gia th xwra mas, se periptwsh poy xreiastei na ginei h prosfygh se ayton ton eyrwpaiko mhxanismo sthrijhs.

SEGKOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ti ennooyse xqes o Prwqypoyrgos otan elege stoys stenoys toy synergates, qa kanw sthn akrh osoys den bohqoyn gia na perasoyn tis allages. Mhpws skefteste na balete th xwra ston gyco, giati mono ayto den mas eipe o Prwqypoyrgos. Den anexetai h kybernhsh thn politikh kritikh apo ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs;

PETALWTHS: O Prwqypoyrgos oxi aplws anexetai thn kritikh, alla thn epidiwkei. Einai o Prwqypoyrgos o opoios syzhtaei, o Prwqypoyrgos o opoios enhmerwnei. Kai fysika qeloyme thn kritikh apo ta politika kommata kai to exoyme pei apo thn prwth stigmh. Emeis epiqymwntas synainesh, leme omws kai kati allo. Oti kaqe komma, kaqe politikh dynamh kai kaqe politikos analambanoyn kai tis eyqynes toys apenanti sthn istoria se aytes tis stigmes poy zoyme. H paromoiwsh sas me to gyco kai logw twn hmerwn, nomizw oti einai atyxestath.

TSAKIRHS: Epeidh eipate oti skopos sas einai na proaspisete thn koinwnikh synoxh kai oti den qa dexqeite kapoia metra poy qa thn bazoyn se kindyno, yparxei loipon qema na mhn dexqeite telika to DNT;

PETALWTHS: O eyrwpaikos mhxanismos sthrijhs einai sygkekrimenos, einai apofasismenos. Den htan epilogh mas na yparxei to DNT mesa, alla apofasisthke kai yparxei.

TSAKIRHS: Kai pws qa proaspisete loipon thn koinwnikh synoxh an ta metra poy zhthsei to DNT, ta opoia oloi gnwrizoyme, einai toso sklhra poy th bazoyn se kindyno;

PETALWTHS: Mono poy ta gnwrizete eseis, xwris na ta gnwrizoyme emeis. Edw milame gia sygkekrimenh periptwsh diapragmateyshs, otan qa yparjei diapragmateysh - ayth th stigmh kanoyme proetoimasia. Kai malista sas eipa me synqhkes poy einai teleiws diaforetikes apo aytes poy paroysiazontai se alles xwres. Kaneis den gnwrizei loipon.

TSAKIRHS: An loipon sas teqoyn ayta ta metra, qa ta dexteite; Aplh einai h erwthsh.

PETALWTHS: Otan eimaste se proetoimasia, den mporoyme na proxwrhsoyme kai na sas poyme poia metra qa dextoyme kai poia oxi. Emeis, ayto poy exoyme na poyme mexri stigmhs einai oti hdh exoyme parei sygkekrimenes apofaseis, hdh exoyme parei sygkekrimena metra prokeimenoy na swqei h oikonomia mas.

MIXAHL: Qelw na sas rwthsw, to PASOK telika ti sosialistiko komma einai kai ti presbeyei; Enan sosialismo aytodiaxeiristiko h enan sosialismo neofileleyqero opws eipe o k. Samaras sto Nayplio;

PETALWTHS: An einai na kanoyme qewrhtikh syzhthsh, qa mporoysame na poyme para polla. Alla epeidh zoyme se ektaktes synqhkes, oi opoies den ofeilontai sth dikh mas diakybernhsh, alla yparxei ena antikeimeniko periballon, exoyme ena sygkekrimeno dillhma. H swzoyme th xwra h den th swzoyme. Kai se ayto to megalo dillhma emeis apantame me prajeis, me sygkekrimenh politikh drash gia na swsoyme th xwra. Kai ayto kanoyme.

PITTARAS: H epanadiapragmateysh toy xreoys apotelei epilogh sas;

PETALWTHS: Oxi.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Epistrofh sth draxmh, gia na einai pio antagwnistikh h oikonomia k. Ekproswpe;

PETALWTHS: Oyte.

SIDERHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, nomizw oti parafrazete ton k. Prwqypoyrgo. O k. Prwqypoyrgos den xarakthrise to DNT ws mia apo tis parametroys twn lysewn. To jexwrise kai eipe oti einai ``to pistoli panw sto trapezi''.

PETALWTHS: Profanws, den parakoloyqhsate th syzhthsh poy ginotan toso kairo, otan legame oti to DNT, emeis to anaferoyme ws dynatothta. Ayto legame kai ayth htan h apoch mas.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Sygnwmh, to ``pistoli'' tote, poio htan; Epeidh twra me toys tromokrates ta mperdeyoyme. To ``pistoli'' poio htan; Den htan h dynatothta toy DNT, gia na mhn trelaqoyme dhladh.

PETALWTHS: Akribws. Dynatothta toy DNT. Gia dynatothta miloysame.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Epeidh, loipon, lete oti sthn koybenta kai ston eyrwpaiko mhxanismo den ebale th dynatothta ayth, to DNT den to ebale o Prwqypoyrgos...

PETALWTHS: Den htan proteraiothta mas. Emeis apariqmoysame to ti dynatothtes yparxoyn, eyrwpaikh lysh, lysh DNT, eleyqeres agores.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Polloi kaloi reporters. Pame para katw. Otan, loipon, fwnajan ton Prwqypoyrgo h Merkel kai o Sarkozi kai toy eipan, kyrie Proedre emeis apofasisame ayto, qa einai kai to DNT mesa, giati o k. Papandreoy to apodexqhke asmenws kai den eipe, den qelw to DNT;

PETALWTHS: Asmenws; Sas ypenqymizw oti den apodexqhkame tipote asmenws. Olo ayto to diasthma, tis prospaqeies toy Prwqypoyrgoy tis parakoloyqei, oxi monon h ellhnikh koinwnia, alla kai h pagkosmia koinothta. Emeis kaname to kalytero dynato poy qa mporoysame na kanoyme gia th xwra.

BITALHS: Molis prin ligo apokleisate to endexomeno epistrofhs se ena istoriko nomisma, sth draxmh. Peite moy, omws, otan o k. Stros-Kan sas leei oti prepei na yparjei apoplhqwrismos kai ayto qeloyme na kanoyme sthn Ellada, dhladh meiwsh timwn kai meiwsh ergatikhs dynamhs, otan apokleiete ayto to pragma poy lete, th draxmh, pws alliws qa to kanete;

PETALWTHS: Den syzhtame gia epistrofh sth draxmh. Ayto einai jekaqaro kai safestato. Oi syzhthseis poy ginontai einai polles. Oi qewrhtikes proseggiseis einai akomh perissoteres. Apofasizei, omws, h ellhnikh kybernhsh. Kai h apofash mas einai safws oti eimaste teleiws ektos tetoias skechs.

GARGALAKOS: Pws ajiologeite k. Ekproswpe to shmerino daneismo me ta entoka grammatia toy Dhmosioy;

PETALWTHS: Parakoloyqoyme oles tis ejelijeis. Exei yperkalyfqei to poso me ena epitokio poy gnwrizoyme. Apo kei kai pera, einai sto plaisio ths diaxeirishs toy xreoys mas kai toy daneismoy mas.

ZAFEIRIADOY: Kyrie Ekproswpe, dyo erwthseis. H mia, ean exoyme kapoia ejelijh gia to qema toy Asfalistikoy, ws pros to an qa ginei dekto h oxi apo thn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh, giati maqainw oti synergaths toy Prwqypoyrgoy exei analabei tis peraiterw diapragmateyseis. Moy to epibebaiwnete h moy to diaceydete;

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to Asfalistiko, to xeirizetai to armodio Ypoyrgeio kai o armodios ypoyrgos k. Loberdos me ton yfypoyrgo.

POLYMEROS: Merimna gia to DNT phrate. Merimna gia thn hfaisteiakh laba poy erxetai, einai pro twn pylwn edw konta mas, sthn Albania, exei labei to ellhniko kratos; Yparxei kati tetoio sta sxedia sas;

PETALWTHS: Einai poly kalh erwthsh, giati apodeiknyetai oti h fysh den gnwrizei oyte apo DNT, oyte apo Asfalistiko. H xwra mas akoloyqei thn koinh eyrwpaikh proseggish. Yparxoyn orismenoi kanones, oi opoioi exoyn teqei, oti kaqorizetai mia periorismenh zwnh apagoreyshs pthsewn, kaqe eji wres, me epikairopoihmena stoixeia apo toys doryforoys. Kai fysika na anaferw oti kai to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, o k. Droytsas exei aposteilei amesa egkyklio se oles tis projenikes arxes kai tis alles arxes poy exoyme sto ejwteriko, etsi wste na parakoloyqoyn kai na syndramoyn oles ekeines tis periptwseis twn Ellhnwn politwn poy einai egklwbismenoi se aerodromia toy ejwterikoy.

KOYTRAS: Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn kybernhsh gia ta osa eipe o k. Bgenopoylos, xqes to brady, poy epiteqhke sto politiko systhma, sygkekrimena sthn kybernhsh kai poio sygkekrimena se dyo stelexh ths kybernhshs, ton k. Pagkalo kai ton k. Shfoynakh.

PETALWTHS: Gia ton k. Shfoynakh, opoy yparxei sygkekrimenh aitiash, o k. Shfoynakhs dieykrinizei oti tote, stis pyrkagies sth Samo, dexqhke ton k. Bgenopoylo, synodeyomeno apo dhmosiografoys kai thleoptikes kameres. Ton enhmerwse gia tis prospaqeies ths kybernhshs gia ekeines tis pyrkagies opoy oi prospaqeies htan poly shmantikoy apotelesmatos. O k. Bgenopoylos enhmerwse ton k. Shfoynakh oti protiqetai na bohqhsei me ena poso, to opoio oydepote katebale. Den proskomise ston k. Shfoynakh kanena parastatiko kai otidhpote poy na exei sxesh me ayto to poso. Apo kei kai pera, ean paredwse to poso ayto se alloys foreis, einai allo zhthma.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Ep` aytoy: Apo th stigmh poy den katebale, alla leei oti to edwse, qa kinhqeite enantion toy, o k. Shfoynakhs, h kybernhsh, enos epixeirhmatia poy leei oti edwse lefta kai kapoy fagwqhkan...

PETALWTHS: Ayto, kata thn krish, qa yparxei kai h analogh energeia.

KOYTRAS: Gia ta osa eipe o k. Bgenopoylos gia ton k. Pagkalo, an yparxei kapoio sxolio kai genika gia to politiko systhma kai tis astoxies ths paroysas kybernhshs sth diaxeirish ths krishs.

PETALWTHS: O k. Bgenopoylos einai enas Ellhnas poliths. Einai enas epixeirhmatias, o opoios, opws oloi oi Ellhnes polites, dikaioytai na kanei krish sto plaisio toy dikaiwmatos twn politwn. Ennoeitai oti den symmerizomaste aytes tis kriseis kai malista otan exoyn mia xroia mias politikhs poy den mas afora. Alla o kaqenas ef` w etaxqh.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Blepete skopimothta pisw apo ayth thn kritikh-epiqesh poy ejapelyse;

PETALWTHS: Den asxoloymaste me tis skopimothtes twn krisewn toy kaqe Ellhna polith, poy tis kanei gia toys dikoys toy logoys.

STRATAKHS: Xqes, symmeteixate se mia thleoptikh ekpomph kai yphrje mia kataggelia apo ton k. Mixalo, gia ypallhlo ths Trapezas ths Ellados, poy eixe diamorfwsei diaforetika toys oroys toy daneismoy pros ofelos... Oson afora, loipon, ayth thn kataggelia, an eystaqei. Deyteron, ean h kybernhsh ejetazei ena qema poy exei prokycei me thn ektimhsh orismenwn oti kratikh trapeza kai sygkekrimena to Taxydromiko Tamieythrio, edrase opws anaferoyn orismenoi stis ektimhseis toys, eis baros ths xwras me to na mpei se diapragmateyseis twn C.D.S.

PETALWTHS: Oson afora to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, den kanw kapoio sxolio h kapoia peraiterw anakoinwsh twra, ypo thn ennoia oti kapoia dhmosieymata poy eidame shmera safws kai den exoyn kamia bash. Sas parapempw stis analytikes anakoinwseis ths Trapezas ths Ellados, oi opoies kai mas kalyptoyn. Oson afora to deytero skelos, pisteyoyme oti den tiqetai kanena zhthma.

ROYBINETHS: Kyrie ypoyrge, gia na elafrynei ligo h baria atmosfaira, apo DNT klp., qa mporoysame na kanoyme mia epikefalida, ena titlo: o aeimnhstos Andreas Papandreoy edwse entolh ``byqisate to XWRA'' kai o Giwrgos Papandreoy edwse entolh, estw kai mesw DNT, poy einai kai mesa sth lejh dynatothta, ``swste th xwra''.

PETALWTHS: Symfwnw.

Sas eyxaristw.


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